Posted July 18, 200816 yr Store# -- Store Name -- Address -- City, State: 2525 -- 1505 FIFTH AVE -- 1505 W FIFTH AVE -- COLUMBUS, OH 11856 -- YUKON BUILDING -- 601 N HIGH ST -- COLUMBUS, OH 14056 -- REYNOLDSBURG -- 6144 E MAIN ST -- COLUMBUS, OH 13859 -- DUBLIN, SAWMILL & HARD -- 7561 SAWMILL RD -- DUBLIN, OH 14170 -- THE SHOPS AT FALLEN TIMBERS -- 3100 MAIN ST -- MAUMEE, OH 2389 -- RICHMOND TOWN SQUARE -- 691 RICHMOND RD -- RICHMOND HEIGHTS, OH 10399 -- OHIO VALLEY MALL -- 67800 MALL RD -- ST. CLAIRSVILLE, OH 11883 -- MAXTOWN -- 925 N. STATE ST -- WESTERVILLE, OH 2792 -- HIGH ST -- 530 N HIGH ST -- WORTHINGTON, OH Source: http://www.starbucks.com/aboutus/USStoreClosureInfo.pdf
July 18, 200816 yr None are closing in the Cincinnati or Nky area, but there are two closing in SE Indiana that fall within the MSA... 11500 -- I-74 & SR 229 -- 14 ALPINE DR -- BATESVILLE, IN 13948 -- SR 3 & LINCOLN -- 1703 N LINCOLN ST -- GREENSBURG, IN
July 18, 200816 yr It's actually St. Clairsville (sorry I messed that up originally). It's located pretty close to Wheeling, WV on I-70: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=st.+clairsville,+oh&ie=UTF8&ll=40.191463,-82.282104&spn=3.037936,5.471191&z=8&iwloc=addr
July 18, 200816 yr yeah, i read charbuck$ is closing them all over the place. yay!!! *nelson voice* haha!!! speaking of local beaneries -- anybody ever try stumptown coffees? it's out of portland. i got a place that uses them near me. oh man, them's good beans. look or ask for'em.
July 18, 200816 yr Did they even give that one in greensburg a chance? With the new auto plant and all..
July 18, 200816 yr Either Columbusites stick to local cups of coffee (or Dunkin Donuts/Tim Horton's) or the person in charge of site selection for the Cbus market was a complete and total moron.
July 18, 200816 yr I think Stauff's/Cup O Joe really has held its own against starbucks. I am glad to see the donwtown Cleveland stores are doing well enough to stay open
July 18, 200816 yr ^or maybe they just over-saturated the Columbus market. I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case.
July 18, 200816 yr ^or maybe they just over-saturated the Columbus market. Actually, I have read articles about Starbucks where they intentionally over-saturated markets, placing stores less than 1/2 mile from existing stores for the sole reason off killing of competition...figuring if the over-saturate the market, they will survive longer than competitors.
July 18, 200816 yr ^or maybe they just over-saturated the Columbus market. I think you might be onto something. If you do a Starbucks location search with a 20 mile radius of Columbus you get 85 starbucks. If you do the same search for Cincy you get 61. Sounds like somebody overbuilt the market.
July 18, 200816 yr The E14/Playhouse Sq. and 200 PS Starbucks are always busy. I'm sure the W9th store does well too-esp. with all the residents.
July 18, 200816 yr ^or maybe they just over-saturated the Columbus market. Actually, I have read articles about Starbucks where they intentionally over-saturated markets, placing stores less than 1/2 mile from existing stores for the sole reason off killing of competition...figuring if the over-saturate the market, they will survive longer than competitors. Bingo. I can spit on four stores from my office, Three on Columbus Circle (One on 60 st, 58 and 8; 57 & 8 ) and one on Ninth ave. Then another on on 63 St/bway. When I worked at rock center, there were at least 10 stores in two blocks of my office three being inside rock center itself. In some area's of NYC there are stores right across the street from one another.
July 18, 200816 yr okay, I know this is supposed to be an Ohio Business forum (blah blah...) but I thought I would include the Manhattan Starbucks slated for closure (just in case any visiting urbanohioans needing to slake their thirst find their "favorite" location gone :cry:): All are in Midtown: 340 Madison Avenue (at 44th Street), 400 Madison Avenue (near 48th Street), 1600 Broadway (near 48th Street), 1675 Broadway (near 52nd Street), 565 Fifth Avenue (near 46th Street) and on the fifth floor of Macy’s flagship store in Herald Square. http://www.mainstreetpainesville.org/
July 18, 200816 yr Hurray!!! My Starbucks is staying open!! I work at this lovely location: Starbucks Brady & Farwell in Milwaukee. I'm so happy I'll still be working two blocks from my house. I was worried they'd transfer me to East Pointe, a hellish strip mall in the middle of the city: :drunk:
July 18, 200816 yr okay, I know this is supposed to be an Ohio Business forum (blah blah...) but I thought I would include the Manhattan Starbucks slated for closure (just in case any visiting urbanohioans needing to slake their thirst find their "favorite" location gone :cry:): All are in Midtown: 340 Madison Avenue (at 44th Street), 400 Madison Avenue (near 48th Street), 1600 Broadway (near 48th Street), 1675 Broadway (near 52nd Street), 565 Fifth Avenue (near 46th Street) and on the fifth floor of Macys flagship store in Herald Square. People can still go to Zibetto Espresso Bar, which is I give 5 stars, two snaps, a twist and a Kiss!
July 18, 200816 yr ^or maybe they just over-saturated the Columbus market. I think Stauff's/Cup O Joe really has held its own against starbucks. Both correct! Especially, the over-saturation. Even with the closing of the Yukon Building location at 601 N. High St., there are still 5 Starbucks remaining in the Columbus downtown area alone!
July 19, 200816 yr ^or maybe they just over-saturated the Columbus market. Actually, I have read articles about Starbucks where they intentionally over-saturated markets, placing stores less than 1/2 mile from existing stores for the sole reason off killing of competition...figuring if the over-saturate the market, they will survive longer than competitors. Bingo. I can spit on four stores from my office, Three on Columbus Circle (One on 60 st, 58 and 8; 57 & 8 ) and one on Ninth ave. Then another on on 63 St/bway. When I worked at rock center, there were at least 10 stores in two blocks of my office three being inside rock center itself. In some area's of NYC there are stores right across the street from one another. Hmm, I wonder if they sign short-term operating leases exclusively.
July 19, 200816 yr I was reading investment articles at The Motley Fool back in the 1990s; they commented on the great company Starbucks and their iconic and attractive logo. Their logo looks stupid to me. Hard to figure out what they are representing with the sea-girl thing. (I later found out that Starbucks was a character from Moby Dick). The logo has this ugly black presence. It looks like it was designed by an eleventh grade art student for reproduction using silk screen or some other low quality ink. That was before Starbucks had penetration in the Ohio area. For the record, I love their product. I brew the Starbucks-Costco blend with the Fair Trade Coffee logo on it. It just makes me a little grouchy.
July 19, 200816 yr A lot of the really big cuts were in the South (where the hot weather I guess lessens demand for coffee) and in the exurbs of boomtowns (which didn't really boom and are sitting half-empty right now).
July 19, 200816 yr Hurray!!! My Starbucks is staying open!! I work at this lovely location: The apt upstairs is for rent; I bet a hardcore Sbux addict will be moving in soon.
July 19, 200816 yr There are f$&king Starbucks everywhere you turn in Bustown. And gasp, maybe Columbus can finally get a Beaners from Michigan! A). First sentence, not true. Columbus doesn't really have THAT many Starbucks for a metro of 2 million. It is true that local competition helped shut down some of those stores (Cup O' Joe being the main one; re: Yukon Building). B). Beaners sucks. Well, atleast the one in Lansing did. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
July 19, 200816 yr If you look starbuck's is closing stores in the columbus area, with the exception of the sawmill rd location, that are in more urban like locations with off street parking, no lot, and most likely higher rent prices and buildings that they rent from and do not own. Columbus does have more starbucks per population than any other ohio city. But in the last 5 years starbucks started trying locations in the more urban areas of columbus. The Short North location is one of the closures and has only been open for a year. The rent there is higher and foot traffic during the day lower. None of the closures are in the downtown Columbus proper. Those locations are very busy with office works and have restricted hours on the weekend to curb decline in profits. The Short North location, Worthington location and westerville location are all in buildings with no parking. However, German Village, Grandview, and many others are staying open. It is interesting that in the grandview/columbus area there are 5 starbucks all just a few blocks away. It makes sense to close atleast one of those. Columbus is a market where starbucks was working to have a monopoly on the central city and suburban coffe market. From these closures it looks like Starbucks is retreating on the their effort to control the central city market.
July 19, 200816 yr Notice I said "for a metro of 2 million." Try Portland, Charlotte, Indianapolis, etc to see what I'm talking about. Saying "well, Columbus has more Starbucks per capita than Cinci/Clev or whatever" doesn't address what I said. And keep in mind, in that 71 statistic, the majority of those Starbucks are inside Kroger, Target, Giant Eagle, etc. http://www.starbuckseverywhere.net/Columbus.htm Also... Did you go to the same one I did? I went to one in downtown Lansing that wasn't very good. The Toledo and Ann Arbor locations I've been to are better than the one I had in downtown Lansing. There were a lot of 16-year-olds working at the one in Lansing, and I don't think they knew what they were doing yet. They also were CHUDS. The whole experience frightened me. Yeah, I went to the one in downtown Lansing though I didn't see any 16-year olds working there. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
July 20, 200816 yr that sucks about the St. Clairsville location :( The location outside of the mall will remain open, it's the one inside that is closing. Sucks about the Mall, though. :(
July 20, 200816 yr What upsets me about this is that most of the stores they're closing are probably still making a profit. Just not a high enough profit for their corporate standards. I could understand closing down stores that lose money. But instead of explaining to shareholders that "we're in a tough economic time, and some of our stores aren't making as large a profit as we would have expected," they just shut them down and put a large percentage of the employees out of a job.
July 21, 200816 yr ^ C-Dawg...you have / had a very different college experience than me. And yet...it all seems so familiar too. :-) So anyway, there's three within throwing distance from my house. One on Chagrin / Green, one at Eton Collection and one at Village Square on Chagrin. All within a couple miles of each other. Even McDonalds doesn't have that kind of saturation. Yet they're all busy, that's what blows my mind. Personally, I really like Starbucks coffee (someone mentioned Phoenix here, they're still my all time favorite. Fabulous stuff), but I never knew how they sustained that level of penetration. When I was in school (early 90's) at Syracuse, we actually had NO coffee shops on or near campus. M-Street (the street next to campus with all the food places and bars) had everything but. That was something we were always blown away by. Well, careful what you wish for, because now there is one. Unfortunately, it's in the place of the studen't favorite sub /pizza place, Archie's. This wouldn't have been that tragic except that Archie's had a mural of all the different Big East mascots playing different sports against each other over all of its walls. These were painted by a student who called himself P'kasso, during the mid 80's, and were awesome. When Starbucks came in, they painted over all of them . :cry: It's a shame because this was one of those iconic SU things that sort of gave the school some of its charm, at least to me. Most of my friends who went around the same time I did were equally as horrified. Oh well, that's progress I guess.
July 21, 200816 yr I'm not an expert or Human Resources expert but when a company does a massive layoff (there is minimun number) they do need to file with the department of labor. Most likely they will not be able to deny unemployment benefits and the local cities that have high layoff/reductions also might require the company to many things before a closing. I don't have any names for this and what I said above is not "technically" correct so if there are any labor lawyers on the board they can speak to this. It's been done before in the auto and airline industries. We've been required to pay into some type of "fund" because we were release and decreasing so many jobs. We closed down a plant, that manufactured CD/DVD's, and a few months later a second plant in the same city that manufactured magazines. IIRC, when BP moved to Chicago almost all of the of emplyees got payouts.
July 21, 200816 yr They are often the employer of last resort for overeducated folks - PhD's in the liberal arts and the like. Their benefits are pretty good.
July 21, 200816 yr Store# -- Store Name -- Address -- City, State: 2525 -- 1505 FIFTH AVE -- 1505 W FIFTH AVE -- COLUMBUS, OH 11856 -- YUKON BUILDING -- 601 N HIGH ST -- COLUMBUS, OH 14056 -- REYNOLDSBURG -- 6144 E MAIN ST -- COLUMBUS, OH Source: http://www.starbucks.com/aboutus/USStoreClosureInfo.pdf I'm happy to see that Short North 1, Corporate Chain 0
July 22, 200816 yr http://theintelligencer.net/page/content.detail/id/511999.html?nav=510 The OV Mall Starbucks may be forced to stay open?
July 23, 200816 yr As fun as it is to mock Starbucks, there's a rather poignant story today about the impending closure of their outlet in downtown Newark, NJ, a city that views its presence of a sign of normalcy and revival--hope they can prevail: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/23/nyregion/23starbucks.html http://www.mainstreetpainesville.org/
July 24, 200816 yr Starbuck's? Boo-hoo. Did everyone hear me? I said boo...hoo. I've never been in one and I've never bought coffee in my life. In a restaurant, in a coffee shop, from the store. In high school I video taped one of my friends going on an anti coffee shop rant, I have to dig it up because it was freaking hilarious.
July 24, 200816 yr http://theintelligencer.net/page/content.detail/id/511999.html?nav=510 The OV Mall Starbucks may be forced to stay open? are there any Starbucks in Wheeling proper? I do recall seeing some cool-looking indie coffeeshops downtown.
July 24, 200816 yr ^ Man, I tell you what, I bet you could have some good AFC North conversations in one of those Wheeling coffee shops.
August 5, 200816 yr http://theintelligencer.net/page/content.detail/id/511999.html?nav=510 The OV Mall Starbucks may be forced to stay open? are there any Starbucks in Wheeling proper? I do recall seeing some cool-looking indie coffeeshops downtown. There are none. Centre Cup and Wheeling Coffee and Spice are open, though. There's also a neat coffee shop (IIRC its also called the Wheeling Coffee Shop?) Second Cup closed, as did the "Koffee Shop." I don't remember ever seeing it, actually. Those that are open seem to do pretty well, though. Funny, I saw an op-ed in the Akron Beacon Journal that talked about the Starbucks closing in Tridelphia, WV.
January 28, 200916 yr Starbucks puts limits on decaf http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2009/01/26/daily43.html Starbucks Corp. announced Wednesday that it will stop brewing decaffeinated coffee after noon each day. Company officials say demand for decaf falls off significantly in the afternoon, and Starbucks will brew decaf in the afternoon only at a customer’s request. It takes about 4 minutes to make a fresh pot. Last year, Starbucks started brewing fresh pots of coffee every 30 minutes. “For many of our stores, the demand for decaf is greatly reduced in the afternoon,” the company said in the statement. “With our current standard of continually brewing decaf after 12 p.m. regardless of demand, we have seen a high amount of waste.” Starbucks recently initiated a cost-cutting plan to save $400 million by September through reduction of labor and product expenses. In a statement, Starbucks said: "A decision we made to brew decaf coffee on-demand in the afternoons – a decision made for the benefit of customers, and in response to our partners (employees) who want to help reduce waste — is being misrepresented. We are simply giving our stores the flexibility to make decaf on customer demand, during a time when overall demand for decaf is very low. In the process, decaf customers get a fresh cup of coffee and the company saves. It’s a win-win."
January 28, 200916 yr Who drinks decaf anyway?! If you're going to drink coffee be man (or a manly woman) and drink the real thing!
January 28, 200916 yr I drink it! I've only discovered since getting PG that none of the coffee places keep decaf made anymore. Sometimes I would like to get a half-caf when I'm working a long shift at my 2nd job at the mall just to have a LITTLE caffeine but something bigger that's nice and hot to drink, but they never have it and I don't feel like standing around waiting for 4 minutes for them to brew some so I go without. The Caribou would have it sometimes, but the starbucks never did. I came back to work one day and complained about it and learned that just about everyone I work with in my department is a regular decaf drinker and they said they quit going to Starbucks awhile ago because they never had it. I'm sure they have their reasons for drinking decaf, I will probably continue to keep my caffeine consumption low after the kid is born but I mean, chicken, meet egg. They quit going because it quit being available, now they're basically not brewing it at all.
January 28, 200916 yr I drink half-caf myself. If I've had too many of those in a day, then I go with decaf. I'm not thrilled with the idea of not brewing decaf in the afternoons. I may go less often.
January 28, 200916 yr I would drink something else if I didn't want the caffeine - like water. I usually get an extra shot (or two) when I get my coffee...the regular two shots of espresso just doesn't do the trick.
January 28, 200916 yr One gets tired of water. And in the winter, one would like something hot to drink, and not 3000 calorie hot chocolate or something with artificial sweetener. I drink about 1.5 gallons of water a day. Sometimes I want something else.
January 28, 200916 yr One gets tired of water. And in the winter, one would like something hot to drink, and not 3000 calorie hot chocolate or something with artificial sweetener. I drink about 1.5 gallons of water a day. Sometimes I want something else. Bacardi?
January 28, 200916 yr I certainly wouldn't mind a bourbon now and again. I do miss alcohol. But it's not really appropriate to drink NOW, nor is it very good before one's shift at a retail store. :)
January 28, 200916 yr I certainly wouldn't mind a bourbon now and again. I do miss alcohol. But it's not really appropriate to drink NOW, nor is it very good before one's shift at a retail store. :) Well after the birth of Little Rock, you can go to the new Bourbon bar. lol
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