October 7, 20222 yr 5 minutes ago, Pablo said: Damn autocorrect. I'll bet they meant Aloft I’ll bet the article’s author saw the AC Marriott mentioned in the application package (referring to the one already in Bridge Park), and wasn’t paying enough attention.
October 7, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, cbussoccer said: It's not like nothing over 10 stories is being built downtown. We have Hilton that just wrapped up and Merchant Tower coming up. There's the 13 story on Broad and the 15 story at High and Gay that should be starting soon. We have everything happening on the Scioto Peninsula. The old Greyhound site will presumably have some at least 15-stories. In addition to those, there have been about seven or eight buildings of at least 10 stories that have gone up in the last 5-7 years downtown. You’re not wrong, guess I shouldn’t complain. Downtown is doing some great stuff, and will continue to.
October 8, 20222 yr 14 hours ago, cbussoccer said: It's not like nothing over 10 stories is being built downtown. We have Hilton that just wrapped up and Merchant Tower coming up. There's the 13 story on Broad and the 15 story at High and Gay that should be starting soon. We have everything happening on the Scioto Peninsula. The old Greyhound site will presumably have some at least 15-stories. In addition to those, there have been about seven or eight buildings of at least 10 stories that have gone up in the last 5-7 years downtown. Very curious why you say the greyhound development will be that tall? You’re not the only one here who I’ve seen say this but I’m just curious why that is. I feel like they said a substantial development would be built there but I think their idea of that and our idea is very different unfortunately.
October 8, 20222 yr 3 hours ago, 614love said: Very curious why you say the greyhound development will be that tall? You’re not the only one here who I’ve seen say this but I’m just curious why that is. I feel like they said a substantial development would be built there but I think their idea of that and our idea is very different unfortunately. I would guess it’s from them saying it would be substantial, and based on the downtown strategic plan that was released. It showed a taller, pretty dense looking building. It could just be that groups wish for what goes there, but seems like they would have conversations with the group that would build it also.
October 19, 20222 yr Cameron Mitchell Restaurants and Crawford Hoying Announce Plans to Bring Premier Boutique Hotel to Downtown Dublin Award-winning, Columbus-based Cameron Mitchell Restaurants (CMR) and noted mixed-use developer Crawford Hoying have announced their partnership in bringing a first-of-its kind, upscale hotel to Central Ohio. The boutique hotel will feature a new signature CMR restaurant, several unique food and beverage options, multiple outdoor spaces, and an event and conference center -- each embodying CMR’s extraordinary genuine hospitality and culinary excellence. Located Southeast of the 161 roundabout at Riverside Drive and West Granville Road, the hotel will be part of a mixed-use expansion of Bridge Park in downtown Dublin. “After nearly 30 years in business, we are unbelievably excited for our foray into the hotel industry. It was a natural decision to align with our longtime partner, Crawford Hoying, on this endeavor. This will undoubtedly be one of the premier hotels in the Midwest, combining the legendary culinary experience we’re known for with a preeminent hospitality focus,” said Cameron Mitchell, founder and CEO of Cameron Mitchell Restaurants. “We’ve been working on this project idea with Crawford Hoying for years, and not only will it be the best hotel in the city, but it will also be a place for Columbus residents and visitors alike to gather, celebrate, dine, and relax. We couldn’t be happier to bring this one-of-a-kind, culinary-forward lifestyle hotel concept to our hometown, and to the rapidly expanding Bridge Park development.” “This hotel and development are important additions to Bridge Park and Central Ohio,” said Brent Crawford, principal and founder of Crawford Hoying. “We understand it’s a big undertaking, but we’re looking forward to once again partnering with Cameron Mitchell Restaurants and working with the City of Dublin and the local community to bring this luxury hotel to the region.” https://www.crawfordhoying.com/news/cameron-mitchell-restaurants-and-crawford-hoying-announce-plans-to-bring-premier-boutique-hotel-to-downtown-dublin
October 19, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, aderwent said: Cameron Mitchell Restaurants and Crawford Hoying Announce Plans to Bring Premier Boutique Hotel to Downtown Dublin Award-winning, Columbus-based Cameron Mitchell Restaurants (CMR) and noted mixed-use developer Crawford Hoying have announced their partnership in bringing a first-of-its kind, upscale hotel to Central Ohio. The boutique hotel will feature a new signature CMR restaurant, several unique food and beverage options, multiple outdoor spaces, and an event and conference center -- each embodying CMR’s extraordinary genuine hospitality and culinary excellence. Located Southeast of the 161 roundabout at Riverside Drive and West Granville Road, the hotel will be part of a mixed-use expansion of Bridge Park in downtown Dublin. “After nearly 30 years in business, we are unbelievably excited for our foray into the hotel industry. It was a natural decision to align with our longtime partner, Crawford Hoying, on this endeavor. This will undoubtedly be one of the premier hotels in the Midwest, combining the legendary culinary experience we’re known for with a preeminent hospitality focus,” said Cameron Mitchell, founder and CEO of Cameron Mitchell Restaurants. “We’ve been working on this project idea with Crawford Hoying for years, and not only will it be the best hotel in the city, but it will also be a place for Columbus residents and visitors alike to gather, celebrate, dine, and relax. We couldn’t be happier to bring this one-of-a-kind, culinary-forward lifestyle hotel concept to our hometown, and to the rapidly expanding Bridge Park development.” “This hotel and development are important additions to Bridge Park and Central Ohio,” said Brent Crawford, principal and founder of Crawford Hoying. “We understand it’s a big undertaking, but we’re looking forward to once again partnering with Cameron Mitchell Restaurants and working with the City of Dublin and the local community to bring this luxury hotel to the region.” https://www.crawfordhoying.com/news/cameron-mitchell-restaurants-and-crawford-hoying-announce-plans-to-bring-premier-boutique-hotel-to-downtown-dublin Anyone remember if this hotel was previously announced and the Cameron Mitchell component is just being announced, or is this a totally new announcement?
October 19, 20222 yr I’m getting disoriented but I THINK this is the hotel referenced in the below link? https://dublinohiousa.gov/pzc/22-143
October 19, 20222 yr 5 minutes ago, smjjms said: I’m getting disoriented but I THINK this is the hotel referenced in the below link? https://dublinohiousa.gov/pzc/22-143 Nope. That's Indus' project up near 270. This is south of 161. This is a brand new announcement. I'm working on a photo now to place all the developments. Here's a sneak peak:
October 19, 20222 yr Wow. There’s just so much going on at that site it’s incredible. The expansion in Dublin is great, really. I just can’t help but feel a pang of sadness as I drive around downtown and see all the empty lots. The walkability of Bridge Park belongs downtown too. Crawford Hoying just bought land downtown right? Where that proposed tower was going to be? Here’s to hoping…
October 19, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, smjjms said: I’m getting disoriented but I THINK this is the hotel referenced in the below link? https://dublinohiousa.gov/pzc/22-143 55 minutes ago, aderwent said: Nope. That's Indus' project up near 270. This is south of 161. This is a brand new announcement. I'm working on a photo now to place all the developments. Here's a sneak peak: I think @smjjms is correct. The Instagram post indicates the project site being just beyond the existing AC Hotel which is visible. That would put the site across 161 on site M as indicated in the overhead view. The Indus project is site D, I believe.
October 19, 20222 yr 8 minutes ago, CMHOhio said: I think @smjjms is correct. The Instagram post indicates the project site being just beyond the existing AC Hotel which is visible. That would put the site across 161 on site M as indicated in the overhead view. The Indus project is site D, I believe. I was referring to the Dublin Planning link.
October 19, 20222 yr The Dispatch has a little more. Bridge Park to expand, add second hotel, restaurants south of Rt. 161 "We expect to have one hotel tower and one condo tower, with a signature restaurant in the hotel building," said Cameron Mitchell, founder and CEO of the restaurant company. "Our goal is to have the best hotel in the city." Mitchell said he and Brent Crawford, the founder of Crawford Hoying, have discussed partnering for years on a hotel and have looked at several sites before settling on this one. Crawford and Mitchell said they expect the hotel to be the best in town. They did not say if it would be independent or affiliated with a brand. "With the hotel, we're trying to create an experience and offering that doesn’t exist in Columbus right now," Crawford said. "We’re shooting to raise the level. In experience and stay, we want to elevate the stock that’s available in Columbus, and believe there's no better place to do it than in Bridge Park. Our existing hotels have performed extremely well for us." "It's always important to meet the demand of the time," he said. "We didn’t expect to have as much office as we have, for example, and the same might be said of for-sale condos. With each new restaurant and development, we're drawing on a larger radius. When Bridge Park opened, we predominantly drew Dublin residents but now, it's a destination not only around Columbus but regionally." Crawford said developers hope to build a pedestrian link between existing Bridge Park and the development to the south. "We feel a pedestrian connection to the first phase of Bridge Park is really important," he said. "We're exploring all options to get pedestrians across the street." https://www.dispatch.com/story/business/2022/10/19/cameron-mitchel-to-partner-in-major-bridge-park-expansion/69574267007/ Sounds like they're thinking Columbus' first five star.
October 19, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, smjjms said: Wow. There’s just so much going on at that site it’s incredible. The expansion in Dublin is great, really. I just can’t help but feel a pang of sadness as I drive around downtown and see all the empty lots. The walkability of Bridge Park belongs downtown too. Crawford Hoying just bought land downtown right? Where that proposed tower was going to be? Here’s to hoping… I agree, but Downtown development is happening and will continue. There is already so many walkable areas downtown and it will just continue. I fall into the, oh crap bridge park is getting everything, trap often. In the end downtown is already better than what bridge park is, and will continue to build out.
October 19, 20222 yr 43 minutes ago, aderwent said: We expect to have one hotel tower and one condo tower Towers? Me likey.
October 19, 20222 yr Bridge Park Expanding With Boutique Hotel A third hotel at Bridge Park was announced today by representatives of Bridge Park developer Crawford Hoying and hotel partner Cameron Mitchell Restaurants. The new project is the first joint hospitality venture from the partnership, and will be located on an undeveloped site along Riverside Drive, south of Dublin-Granville Road. “This hotel and development are important additions to Bridge Park and Central Ohio,” said Brent Crawford, principal and founder of Crawford Hoying. “We understand it’s a big undertaking, but we’re looking forward to once again partnering with Cameron Mitchell Restaurants and working with the City of Dublin and the local community to bring this luxury hotel to the region.” More below: https://columbusunderground.com/bridge-park-expanding-with-boutique-hotel-we1/ "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
October 19, 20222 yr 8 minutes ago, VintageLife said: I agree, but Downtown development is happening and will continue. There is already so many walkable areas downtown and it will just continue. I fall into the, oh crap bridge park is getting everything, trap often. In the end downtown is already better than what bridge park is, and will continue to build out. Yea, there's still a ton happening downtown. And let's not forget, downtown has had to compete with the Short North (and VV, IV, and Campus) which is the most walkable and densely populated area in the city, if not the state. The Scioto Peninsula combined with East Franklinton is pretty much on par with Bridge Street, and it's really just getting started and is far from the only thing happening. Downtown just wrapped up a tower, has another one coming soon, has a 13-story tower under construction, a 15-story on the way, and much more. As the metro area continues to grow, I think it's a good thing to see multiple quality urban developments popping up outside of downtown as well as within downtown. Spread the wealth around!
October 19, 20222 yr 13 minutes ago, cbussoccer said: Towers? Me likey. Didn't Crawford Hoying call their Cherry Street abomination a "tower"?
October 19, 20222 yr 8 minutes ago, cbussoccer said: Yea, there's still a ton happening downtown. And let's not forget, downtown has had to compete with the Short North (and VV, IV, and Campus) which is the most walkable and densely populated area in the city, if not the state. The Scioto Peninsula combined with East Franklinton is pretty much on par with Bridge Street, and it's really just getting started and is far from the only thing happening. Downtown just wrapped up a tower, has another one coming soon, has a 13-story tower under construction, a 15-story on the way, and much more. As the metro area continues to grow, I think it's a good thing to see multiple quality urban developments popping up outside of downtown as well as within downtown. Spread the wealth around! Exactly this, having more growth, height and density spread all over the area, plus downtown, will be an amazing thing. I also feel like once the short north, IV and the other areas, a lot of those companies may move into downtown, once their land is all built out.
October 19, 20222 yr Probably a bit of an odd focus here but... One of a kind culinary food forward boutique hotel with a Cameron Mitchell restaurant as the anchor... There's alot of flowery language to make it try to set itself apart but it still sounds remarkably similar to The Joseph, or the Moxy, etc etc. Food forward boutique is kind of generic IMO. And even the Joseph amps it up with spa rooms. There's alot of markers to hit 5 Star Status so it will be interesting to see if they are indeed trying to pull it off. Otherwise it's just general hype for the standard variation on the theme. There is a void to fill after the closing of M at Miranova for a 4 diamond, but unless he's bringing in that level of fine dining and/or some James Beard or Michelin talent, it all sounds the same as his normal shtick for any CMR. And there is also a technicality to the press release that adds to curiosity. Whereas boutique hotels can either be stand alone or part of much smaller hotel chains under a parent company, the term 'lifestyle hotel' is commonly associated with a larger chain or brand of hotels in the industry (curio, tapestry, moxy, etc). That weird 'a square is always a rectangle but not all rectangles are squares space' depending on whether they were just throwing out words or being intentional in their language choice. I'm definitely intrigued. I really hope it's a truly unique experience. Not entirely sure I'm sold that it will be. Edited October 19, 20222 yr by DTCL11
October 19, 20222 yr 3 hours ago, aderwent said: Crawford said developers hope to build a pedestrian link between existing Bridge Park and the development to the south. "We feel a pedestrian connection to the first phase of Bridge Park is really important," he said. "We're exploring all options to get pedestrians across the street." This is awesome to hear, 161 would be too intimidating for people to navigate, plus the whole point of the roundabout was to keep the traffic flowing. Hopefully if they invest in a pedestrian bridge that could also lead to some denser redevelopment of that strip mall just to the east of this development.
October 20, 20222 yr 30 minutes ago, 17thState said: This is awesome to hear, 161 would be too intimidating for people to navigate, plus the whole point of the roundabout was to keep the traffic flowing. Hopefully if they invest in a pedestrian bridge that could also lead to some denser redevelopment of that strip mall just to the east of this development. The article in The Dispatch also mentions this: "Crawford said Bridge Park has some land to develop to its east, but moving across 161 gives the development more opportunity to expand. The hotel, conference center and restaurants would be part of a broader mixed-use complex that would likely include residences. Developers plan the complex to be an extension of the Bridge Park development and connect to existing Bridge Park with a pedestrian link. Crawford said developers hope to build a pedestrian link between existing Bridge Park and the development to the south, though he did not know yet what form - bridge, tunnel, street-level, etc. - that link would take."
October 20, 20222 yr 13 minutes ago, Luvcbus said: The article in The Dispatch also mentions this: "Crawford said Bridge Park has some land to develop to its east, but moving across 161 gives the development more opportunity to expand. The hotel, conference center and restaurants would be part of a broader mixed-use complex that would likely include residences. Developers plan the complex to be an extension of the Bridge Park development and connect to existing Bridge Park with a pedestrian link. Crawford said developers hope to build a pedestrian link between existing Bridge Park and the development to the south, though he did not know yet what form - bridge, tunnel, street-level, etc. - that link would take." They should take it all the way to sawmill, knocking out all of those crappy shopping strips, and building good dense mixed use.
October 20, 20222 yr Cameron Mitchell, Crawford Hoying partnering on boutique hotel in Dublin A prominent local developer and one of the best-known restaurateurs in Central Ohio are partnering on a new hotel project in Dublin. Crawford Hoying and Cameron Mitchell Restaurants plan to expand the successful Bridge Park development with a boutique hotel featuring a new restaurant from the Columbus-based culinary group. It will be located southeast of the Route 161 roundabout at Riverside Drive and West Granville Road, a site that previously housed a Wendy's. In addition to lodging and fine dining, the hotel will include additional food and beverage options, multiple outdoor spaces and an event and conference center. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/10/19/cameron-mitchell-crawford-hoying-dublin-hotel.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
October 20, 20222 yr 18 hours ago, aderwent said: Nope. That's Indus' project up near 270. This is south of 161. This is a brand new announcement. I'm working on a photo now to place all the developments. Here's a sneak peak: Few more announcements and you're going to need a second alphabet to identify where all the new developments are going to go!
October 20, 20222 yr A: The Oscars boutique hotel is in architectural review now. B: This is approved. C: CoHatch was selected to rebab these properties. D: Indus Bridge Park is in preliminary review. E: This is approved. F: These are under construction. G: This is approved. H: This is approved. I: This is nearly complete. J: This is under construction. K: Cardinal South is in preliminary review. L: Mount Carmel is still in Planning review. M: The newest announcement. This parcel plus the upthread-mentioned strip mall to the East were both rezoned under a single rezoning last year. When Crawford mentioned they have space to the East I take it to mean East of the current development, not this new one since he said we decided to go South instead. The only properties remaining to the East are the two car dealerships between Bridge Park and Wendy's HQ. They also have two parcels North of the Cadillac dealership on the South side of Bridge Park Ave forming an "L" around the COTA park and ride. I wonder if Wendy's is interested in modernizing their campus into something less insular? edit: Open the image in a new tab and click the +. You'll get a giant image you can move around and see better. Edited October 20, 20222 yr by aderwent
October 21, 20222 yr On 10/19/2022 at 8:08 PM, Luvcbus said: developers hope to build a pedestrian link between existing Bridge Park and the development to the south, though he did not know yet what form - bridge, tunnel, street-level, etc. - that link would take." I hope they go bridge. Tunnels no matter how well taken care of always feel a little sketchy for some reason and an at grade crossing would be a traffic issue that would defeat the point of the roundabout, plus it would just be very intimidating for pedestrians. I know there's crosswalks there now with pedestrian islands, which is about as nice as you could hope for, but something tells me it doesn't get a lot of use. Also, it's a bit of a shame the empty field portion of the Wendy's campus is on the east side. It'd be nice if they could follow Battelle and sell some land for redevelopment and have it fit right into bridge park (once those dealerships are gone), but it's probably a tougher sell to rebuild their main building.
October 21, 20222 yr Here's why Crawford Hoying is building a third hotel at Dublin's Bridge Park, and how it will be different from the others Encouraged by the success of its two existing hotels at Bridge Park, Crawford Hoying is building a third. But unlike the others, the Dublin developer's new project has the backing of one of Central Ohio's highest-profile restaurateurs. On Wednesday, Columbus Business First was first to report on Crawford Hoying and Cameron Mitchell Restaurants' plans for a new boutique hotel at Bridge Park in Dublin. It's a different type of venture for Mitchell, but not for Crawford Hoying, who opened an AC Hotel in fall 2017 and a Springhill Suites about a year ago. Both of the Bridge Park hotels are under the banner of hotel giant Marriott, but for now it's unclear if the new project will have a corporate backer. What is known is Cameron Mitchell is launching a new signature restaurant at the hotel. But unlike other hotel projects the restaurateur has done, Cameron Mitchell Restaurants won't be a tenant in Crawford Hoying building — they'll be a co-owner. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/10/21/crawford-hoying-boutique-hotel-bridge-park-dublin.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
October 21, 20222 yr 2 hours ago, aderwent said: Looks like nine floors for the condos and seven for the hotel. Great find! My initial impression is that it's like a much smaller Miranova - just replace the office building with a hotel. Not sure why CM and others in the CBF article are saying this is going to be so revolutionary for the region. Honestly I was hoping for one of these buildings to come in around 12-15 floors, but I can only imagine the uproar for a building of that potential height.
October 21, 20222 yr 34 minutes ago, CMHOhio said: Great find! My initial impression is that it's like a much smaller Miranova - just replace the office building with a hotel. Not sure why CM and others in the CBF article are saying this is going to be so revolutionary for the region. Honestly I was hoping for one of these buildings to come in around 12-15 floors, but I can only imagine the uproar for a building of that potential height. This is Crawford hoying. He considers a 7 story building on the main road in a growing city, a great idea.
October 21, 20222 yr 3 hours ago, VintageLife said: This is Crawford hoying. He considers a 7 story building on the main road in a growing city, a great idea. I would also just remind people that 10-12 story buildings were never in the original vision for Bridge Street and what has been constructed in Bridge Park has been slightly more dense than envisioned back in the day. The zoning for the tallest buildings capped at 7 stories not to long ago and that required a step back after the 5th story. As far as I am aware, Dublin has no desire to have a high profile skyline or compete with downtown Cbus. They would much rather be the Bellevue or Palo Alto to Columbus' Seattle/San Jose. Not bashing anyone's desires for the area I just don't want people to get their hopes up and dashed when Dublin doesn't approve a 15 story high-rise.
October 24, 20222 yr Crawford Hoying-Cameron Mitchell hotel project will also include a large condo tower A new project from two of the biggest names in the Central Ohio business community will also include a large condo tower, documents show. An informal review plan submitted to the city of Dublin reveals Crawford Hoying and Cameron Mitchell Restaurants' boutique hotel project at Bridge Park also features seven floors of condominiums along with a two-story restaurant. Parking will be located below the restaurant and condo tower. A Crawford Hoying spokesperson confirmed to Columbus Business First that "luxury condos are indeed planned" for the mixed-use development, which also includes additional food and beverage options, multiple outdoor spaces and an event and conference center. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/10/24/condo-tower-crawford-hoying-cameron-mitchell-hotel.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
October 25, 20222 yr On 10/21/2022 at 2:39 PM, Ginger Planner said: I would also just remind people that 10-12 story buildings were never in the original vision for Bridge Street and what has been constructed in Bridge Park has been slightly more dense than envisioned back in the day. The zoning for the tallest buildings capped at 7 stories not to long ago and that required a step back after the 5th story. As far as I am aware, Dublin has no desire to have a high profile skyline or compete with downtown Cbus. They would much rather be the Bellevue or Palo Alto to Columbus' Seattle/San Jose. Not bashing anyone's desires for the area I just don't want people to get their hopes up and dashed when Dublin doesn't approve a 15 story high-rise. True enough. 7 and 9 floors is not bad for this area. And it is the density and walkability and diversity of uses that is really most important anyway. Save the towers for downtown or OSU, Easton etc.
October 25, 20222 yr 15 minutes ago, Toddguy said: True enough. 7 and 9 floors is not bad for this area. And it is the density and walkability and diversity of uses that is really most important anyway. Save the towers for downtown or OSU, Easton etc. Agree completely here. Would a larger tower in this area be cool? Absolutely. Is it necessary? Not at all. This area while very nice is not itching for an influx of height.
December 1, 20222 yr This development turned from four buildings into one large building. 301 multifamily units 12,200 sqft of ground floor retail 453 space internal parking garage
December 1, 20222 yr 30 minutes ago, aderwent said: This development turned from four buildings into one large building. 301 multifamily units 12,200 sqft of ground floor retail 453 space internal parking garage Looks decent and love the difference in material on the fronts. Breaks it up and doesn’t make it feel like one massive building.
December 1, 20222 yr I agree. It looks pretty good, and it should blend it pretty well with nearby BP. Definitely an improvement over the massive parking lot.
January 24, 20232 yr Some changes to “Indus Bridge Street,” including a reduction in size of the residential towers. Major expansion planned for Bridge Park development in Dublin “Plans submitted to the city call for adding an eight-story, 147-room hotel with ground-floor retail; a six-story office building with retail; a five-story, 800-car parking garage; and two buildings, eight- and nine-stories, that would contain a total of 169 residences. The development, dubbed Indus Bridge Street, would continue the Bridge Park street grid, but would not be done by Bridge Park's primary developers, Crawford Hoying. Instead, the Columbus hotel firm Indus Companies is proposing the expansion. "We are building and expanding upon the character that was established in the Bridge Park blocks previously, while creating a unique identity for Indus Bridge Street," Indus wrote in its proposal to the city. "One of the key features of this development is the large open space that sits at the heart of it." Indus submitted the plan to the city in the fall, but has revised the plan that is now scheduled to come before the city's planning and zoning commission on Feb. 2. Among other changes, Indus switched locations of the offices and residential buildings, and reduced the height of the two residential buildings by two stories each.” More details at the link: https://www.dispatch.com/story/business/2023/01/24/major-dublin-development-looks-to-grow-even-more/69829903007/
January 24, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, amped91 said: Some changes to “Indus Bridge Street,” including a reduction in size of the residential towers. Major expansion planned for Bridge Park development in Dublin “Plans submitted to the city call for adding an eight-story, 147-room hotel with ground-floor retail; a six-story office building with retail; a five-story, 800-car parking garage; and two buildings, eight- and nine-stories, that would contain a total of 169 residences. The development, dubbed Indus Bridge Street, would continue the Bridge Park street grid, but would not be done by Bridge Park's primary developers, Crawford Hoying. Instead, the Columbus hotel firm Indus Companies is proposing the expansion. "We are building and expanding upon the character that was established in the Bridge Park blocks previously, while creating a unique identity for Indus Bridge Street," Indus wrote in its proposal to the city. "One of the key features of this development is the large open space that sits at the heart of it." Indus submitted the plan to the city in the fall, but has revised the plan that is now scheduled to come before the city's planning and zoning commission on Feb. 2. Among other changes, Indus switched locations of the offices and residential buildings, and reduced the height of the two residential buildings by two stories each.” More details at the link: https://www.dispatch.com/story/business/2023/01/24/major-dublin-development-looks-to-grow-even-more/69829903007/ Makes sense to have the office facing 270. Also looks like the residential buildings are now connected over a green space.
January 24, 20232 yr Looks like they'll make the same mistake CH made in not concealing the garage. One of those so close yet so far things about parts of Bridge Park. (And now penisula)
January 24, 20232 yr 7 minutes ago, DTCL11 said: Looks like they'll make the same mistake CH made in not concealing the garage. One of those so close yet so far things about parts of Bridge Park. (And now penisula) Yep, makes zero sense, I feel like the only reason they do this is because of car culture and how everyone freaks out about not being able to park. If they can’t see it right away, they will freak out and leave. Just hide it, gravity 1 and 2 did a great job of this.
January 24, 20232 yr 14 minutes ago, DTCL11 said: Looks like they'll make the same mistake CH made in not concealing the garage. One of those so close yet so far things about parts of Bridge Park. (And now penisula) I'm pretty sure this garage will have ground floor retail. The five garages in Bridge Park I think are concealed nicely. The only miss is the Longshore Garage. On Longshore it's just garage, but on Mooney and the courtyard it's lined by five floors of apartments. Across Mooney from the Longshore Garage is a new garage that is styled like a warehouse. Across Tuller Ridge Dr from the Longshore Garage is a garage with North Market as its ground floor. The original garage is lined nicely with retail and apartments on Longshore. The corner of the hotel garage now has The Roosevelt Room. Without spending significantly more money on ventilation, etc, I'm not sure how Bridge Park conceals their garages better. As for the Peninsula. Meh. I'm not too worried about the garages buffering the neighborhood from the train tracks. It would have been nice for them to be lined along Starling Street, but the parcels are very narrow. There would have been no way to do it without moving Starling Street to the east.
January 24, 20232 yr 19 minutes ago, VintageLife said: Yep, makes zero sense, I feel like the only reason they do this is because of car culture and how everyone freaks out about not being able to park. If they can’t see it right away, they will freak out and leave. Just hide it, gravity 1 and 2 did a great job of this. I think one thing we often forget with Bridge Park is that this was to give people who want to live in the suburbs a taste of urban living without moving to the city. It's urban design but it's still a suburb of an Ohio city, specifically the one with the worst public transit in the state. The car will unfortunately reign supreme. Edited January 24, 20232 yr by TIm
January 24, 20232 yr I've expressed it before. At this point, I just have little tolerance for unconcealed ground level garages outside of the alley side. It's best practices and just completes these projects. I understand it's fine but it takes them from 80-90% to 100%. Even small things like a walk up stop makes a big difference. It doesn't even have to be retail. Maybe it's a bike storage area, Amazon delivery hub, display windows etc. I'm also close to little tolerance for an open air parking deck top levels. Roofs need to be green space, green for water retention, solar, or residential/office. One of those things that needs to be the norm under pressure of zoning. It's been awhile since we discussed it but the potential that the top levels of these decks present for good is immense. Just need someone to start setting the bar.
January 24, 20232 yr 12 minutes ago, DTCL11 said: I've expressed it before. At this point, I just have little tolerance for unconcealed ground level garages outside of the alley side. It's best practices and just completes these projects. I understand it's fine but it takes them from 80-90% to 100%. Even small things like a walk up stop makes a big difference. It doesn't even have to be retail. Maybe it's a bike storage area, Amazon delivery hub, display windows etc. I'm also close to little tolerance for an open air parking deck top levels. Roofs need to be green space, green for water retention, solar, or residential/office. One of those things that needs to be the norm under pressure of zoning. It's been awhile since we discussed it but the potential that the top levels of these decks present for good is immense. Just need someone to start setting the bar. That’s what the commissions in the short north should be pushing, instead of crying about height. make these developers create green buildings, something that can be unique to Columbus and put Columbus on the radar for something new. I know that other cities are doing green buildings, but it would be cool to have a whole entire neighborhood that is nothing but green building. Bridge park should have also done it.
January 24, 20232 yr 59 minutes ago, DTCL11 said: I'm also close to little tolerance for an open air parking deck top levels. Roofs need to be green space, green for water retention, solar, or residential/office. One of those things that needs to be the norm under pressure of zoning. It's been awhile since we discussed it but the potential that the top levels of these decks present for good is immense. Just need someone to start setting the bar. Be prepared to see far fewer projects happening if this is a requirement you want. The cost this would add to projects, both in terms of construction and ongoing maintenance, would be immense and likely make many of them impossible. The one benefit I suppose is that it would indirectly incentivize developers to just forego the parking garage, but that's only an option if the city steps up drastically on public transportation.
January 24, 20232 yr It's a risk I'd be 100% willing to take and think the region should as well. The impact will not be as detrimental as you'd think. Some projects may be impacted but I doubt it would be a significant amount. I don't tend to flinch on the concept of 'then developers won't bother'. Developers will still come and in good numbers. Even looking at the ones I take issue with now, a simple rework isn't going to make or break Peninsula or Bridge Park. Like I said, it's taking best practices that many are doing and just making sure everyone does. At the very least, convertible ground floor space. But the easiest of the rooftop requirements could result in net income for builders by partnering with energy companies for solar arrays. Energy capture is going to potentially make them more money than the parking spaces below. It also help reduce weather exposure and reduce the need for plowing and treating the top level adding to the reduced maintenance cost etc. There's really great concepts of food producing greenhouses that could be transformational but I'll settle for solar arrays or water absorbing green roofs. Edited January 24, 20232 yr by DTCL11
January 27, 20232 yr Second Review Planned for Major Expansion of Dublin’s Bridge Street District Dublin’s Bridge Street District could expand significantly to the north in the next few years if a new proposal comes to fruition. Longshore Street would be extended to connect John Shields Parkway and Tuller Road, and five new buildings would be built on both sides of the new road – an eight-story hotel, a six-story office building, a parking garage, and two residential buildings (one eight stories tall and the other nine). All of the buildings would have ground-level commercial space or retail storefronts. The proposal comes from Indus Companies, a Columbus-based firm with a long history of building and managing hotels in the region. Crawford Hoying, the primary developer of Bridge Park, is not involved in the project. More below: https://columbusunderground.com/second-review-planned-for-major-expansion-of-bridge-park-bw1/ "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
January 28, 20232 yr I really hope they push back on that massive garage. If i recall correctly a parking structure must be lined on a minimum of 2 sides with either residential or commercial uses. There are already too many exposed parking garage sides in Bridge park. I appreciate that they added architectural treatments to the exposed parts but they are not that impressive. Take a floor or two from the res towers and line the garage. Also, the drop-off on the hotel looks very suburban in it's layout and I believe Moony is considered a primary street and has specific urban design and building orientation requirements this doesn't meet. Just my two cents
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