Posted July 30, 200816 yr I thought this was posted somewhere before but I can't seem to locate it. The Top 20 Albums of All Time #20. Faith - George Michael Play Album Year: 1987 Units Sold: 10 Million SPV: $9.19 Rating (Stars): 4 Grammys Won: 1 #19. Appetite For Destruction - Guns N' Roses Play Album Year: 1987 Units Sold: 15 Million SPV: $8.81 Rating (Stars): 4 Grammys Won: 0 #18. Purple Rain - Prince Play Album Year: 1984 Units Sold: 13 Million SPV: $8.74 Rating (Stars): 4.75 Grammys Won: 2 #17. Houses Of The Holy - Led Zeppelin Play Album Year: 1973 Units Sold: 11 Million SPV: $9.10 Rating (Stars): 4.5 Grammys Won: 0 #16. Born In The U.S.A. - Bruce Springsteen Play Album Year: 1984 Units Sold: 15 Million SPV: $8.91 Rating (Stars): 5 Grammys Won: 0 #15. Nevermind - Nirvana Play Album Year: 1991 Units Sold: 10 Million SPV: $10.07 Rating (Stars): 4 Grammys Won: 0 #14. Van Halen - Van Halen Play Album Year: 1978 Units Sold: 10 Million SPV: $10.23 Rating (Stars): 4.25 Grammys Won: 0 #13. Rumours - Fleetwood Mac Play Album Year: 1977 Units Sold: 19 Million SPV: $9.52 Rating (Stars): 5 Grammys Won: 1 #12. The Wall - Pink Floyd Play Album Year: 1979 Units Sold: 23 Million SPV: $10.20 Rating (Stars): 4.75 Grammys Won: 1 #11. The Joshua Tree - U2 Play Album Year: 1987 Units Sold: 10 Million SPV: $11.50 Rating (Stars): 4.5 Grammys Won: 2 #10. Metallica - Metallica Play Album Year: 1991 Units Sold: 14 Million SPV: $12.08 Rating (Stars): 4.25 Grammys Won: 1 #9. Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin Play Album Year: 1969 Units Sold: 10 Million SPV: $12.83 Rating (Stars): 4 Grammys Won: 0 #8. Hotel California - Eagles Play Album Year: 1976 Units Sold: 16 Million SPV: $12.00 Rating (Stars): 4.75 Grammys Won: 0 #7. The White Album - The Beatles Play Album Year: 1968 Units Sold: 19 Million SPV: $12.00 Rating (Stars): 5 Grammys Won: 0 #6. Led Zeppelin IV - Led Zeppelin Play Album Year: 1971 Units Sold: 23 Million SPV: $12.42 Rating (Stars): 5 Grammys Won: 0 #5. Abbey Road - The Beatles Play Album Year: 1968 Units Sold: 12 Million SPV: $14.94 Rating (Stars): 4.25 Grammys Won: 1 #4. Physical Graffiti - Led Zeppelin Play Album Year: 1975 Units Sold: 16 Million SPV: $14.31 Rating (Stars): 4.75 Grammys Won: 0 #3. Thriller - Michael Jackson Play Album Year: 1982 Units Sold: 27 Million SPV: $13.49 Rating (Stars): 4.5 Grammys Won: 4 #2. Dark Side Of The Moon - Pink Floyd Play Album Year: 1973 Units Sold: 15 Million SPV: $16.08 Rating (Stars): 5 Grammys Won: 0 #1. Songs In The Key Of Life - Stevie Wonder Play Album Year: 1976 Units Sold: 10 Million SPV: $16.84 Rating (Stars): 5 Grammys Won: 2 http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/yradish/15499/the-top-20-albums-of-all-time-for-real The Top 20 Albums of All Time (For Real) Posted Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:21pm PDT by Robert of the Radish in The Y! Music Playlist I completely understand the frustration of "best of lists", and I can assure you that I read hundreds of comments here on the Yahoo Music blogs whenever we post one. Many times our "best album" lists generate thousands of comments. And although many of the remarks are ridiculous, many are valid in a subjective sort of way. For this playlist I wanted to find the true top 20 albums once and for all, but to do this I needed to clear my mind of all opinion and approach it as a science. My own personal taste did not influence this list in any way. In fact, I would have made many different choices, but the time I put into collecting the data and crunching the numbers leaves no doubt in my mind that this is the most accurate top 20 album list in existence. To begin with I had to set the parameters, and I have set them as follows: 1. The list is based on the American market - I did this only because I had mounds of detailed data on the American music market at hand- to include the whole world or even Europe would increase the complexity of the analysis greatly - So this is really the "Top 20 Albums of All Time (To Americans)" 2. "Greatest Hits" albums and live albums were not eligible. The idea here was to identify the very best true albums, not compilations that cherry pick the best songs from an artist's career. 3. The following mathematical formula was used: "Album Staying Power Value + Sales Value + Critical Rating Value + Grammy Award Value" Now if you wish to argue, I welcome intelligent comment on how to hone the formula further, but please try to control the passionate fan-speak that drives so many of the comments. Remember, the idea is to completely remove your personal opinion from the process. To offer a bit more detail on the components of the formula: The initial group of albums selected was based solely on sales. Please know that I believe sales alone are probably the worst measure we have of an album's quality and I will speak to how I addressed this problem in a few. But as a starting point sales made the most sense. Sales are by no means the only measure of a "great album", but without big sales an album doesn't have much footing on which to claim the moniker "greatest". A vote with a dollar is a much stronger indicator than any other. I looked at the biggest selling albums of all time in America based on actual RIAA data - this produced 71 non-Greatest Hits/Live albums that have all sold over 10 million units. Any of these that sold more than 10 million units received a 1% Sales Multiplier for every 1 million units sold over 10 million. Sales Value = Sales Multiplier X Staying Power Value Next, I determined what the Staying Power Value (SPV) was of all 71 albums. To determine Staying Power Value I looked at used CD sales data to determine how well each album's value has held up over time. For example, in the secondary market you can expect to pay around $9.50 for a copy of Rumours by Fleetwood Mac, but you would only pay $1.38 for a copy of Cracked Rear View by Hootie and The Blowfish. The Staying Power Value is important because it shows what the current value of the album is in the marketplace. So it's a good reflection of supply and demand. Rumours sold 19 million copies and Cracked Rear View sold 16 million. Rumours gets more points for selling more units, but even more important than the higher overall sales figures is that people want to hold onto their Fleetwood Mac CD, but don't mind parting with their Hootie CD. SPV captures this. In simple terms, Staying Power Value reflects current supply and demand for each album. *Please note that for double albums we reduced the SPV to align with a standard-length album. So if we take the previously mentioned SPV of Fleetwood Mac's Rumours album and multiply it by that album's Sales Multiplier of 9% (1% for each million sold over 10 million) we get $10.38. But this only shows us how much people still desire the album + how many have sold at retail. The next part of the formula takes into account critical acclaim. I would agree with anyone who says a critical review means nothing, but when you start to see a pattern among the critics the data becomes much more reliable. If ten out of ten reviewers give an album 5 stars chances are good that the album is a winner. Basically the more reviews you average the more reliable the rating. For the Critical Rating Value I looked at multiple reviews for each album from a diverse cross section of music magazines, newspapers and music review websites to come up with the average review number for each based on a 5 star scale. From these ratings I assigned a Critical Rating Multiplier to each album ranging from 0% to 10%. So now our formula has factored in critical acclaim making the end result more reliable. Ratings Value = Sales Value X Rating Multiplier The final portion of the formula is the Grammy Award Value and it simply looks at how many Grammy Awards each album has won. Our formula already has the voice of the people (Sales Value) and the voice of the critics (Critical Rating Value) so the only missing component is the acclaim each album holds among it's peers. The Grammys are an industry specific award and are the best reflection we have of how the music business itself feels about an album. I would agree that this is the least important of the components in our formula, and as such each Grammy award adds only a .5% bonus. So an album that wins 4 Grammys would receive an extra 2% to it's value. This in my estimation is a fair weighting to give for a Grammy award. So now I give you The Top 20 Albums of All Time based purely on the analysis provided above and devoid of any personal opinion.
July 30, 200816 yr So many to chose. Songs in The Key of life is an amazing album. So is The Wall. Thriller should have never been on the list as I feel "off the wall" IS Michaels best album. Faith? Child Boo! and I like George Micheal. Purple Rain came out the summer I graduate high school. The movie, the album...is a winner for my generation.
July 30, 200816 yr I would also have to include Kid A from Radiohead. It's my number 1 album of all time, personally.
July 30, 200816 yr This is wonderful. Using definitism to explain the abstract. That's how music should be evaluated! :D
July 30, 200816 yr Tough call for me between Dark Side of the Moon, The White Album, Metallica, and Nevermind. I voted for Nevermind by Nirvana because Grunge is something that stands out for my generation and it just barely put Nevermind over the top of the other great ones I listed above.
July 30, 200816 yr I would say it's a good list; I listen to most of that stuff, minus Stevie Wonder. Flee2theCleve: I completely agree. I'm a big Led Zeppelin fan. I wish I was around in the late 70s and could have experienced a few of their live shows. Personally, I would have put Axis: Bold as love somewhere on that list. Oh and Nirvana is so d@mn overrated. :evil:
July 30, 200816 yr I completely agree. I'm a big Led Zeppelin fan. I wish I was around in the late 70s and could have experienced a few of their live shows. My older brother talked my Mom and Dad into letting me tag along with him to 1980’s North American Tour “In Through the Out Door” at the Richfield Coliseum. With tickets in hand, the tour was cancelled due to John Bonham’s untimely death. I was so bummed! All was not lost though as that same year my brother took me to my first concert; AC/DC’s Back in Black Tour at Cleveland Public Hall.
July 30, 200816 yr Songs in the Key of Life is one of my all time favorite albums. Man, every song on there is great. After that I'd have to say Appetite for Destruction for my personal favorite. But I have to give it to Michael with Thriller. You may not love his music, but you have got to give him respect for the impact he had on pop music.
July 30, 200816 yr I completely agree. I'm a big Led Zeppelin fan. I wish I was around in the late 70s and could have experienced a few of their live shows. My older brother talked my Mom and Dad in to letting me tag along to 1980’s North American Tour “In Through the Out Door” at the Richfield Coliseum. With tickets in hand, the tour was cancelled due to John Bonham’s untimely death. I was so bummed! All was not lost though as that same year my brother took me to my first concert; AC/DC’s Back in Black Tour at Cleveland Public Hall. D@mn, I bet everyone was more devastated about the death than missing the concert. At least you got to go to Back in Black though - that tour was legendary. I think you all forgot about the best musical act of all time:
July 30, 200816 yr Very hard to pick from that list. The majority of it sounds like you're reading the playlist on my iPod, with the exception of Michael Jackson.
July 30, 200816 yr I think you all forgot about the best musical act of all time: We didn't forget. The key word is "act" since teh people who recorded many of the songs weren't even recognized. the song was a straight rip off of "love sensation".
July 30, 200816 yr Very hard to pick from that list. The majority of it sounds like you're reading the playlist on my iPod, with the exception of Michael Jackson. ...and Steve Wonder (for me at least).
July 30, 200816 yr Very hard to pick from that list. The majority of it sounds like you're reading the playlist on my iPod, with the exception of Michael Jackson. ...and Steve Wonder (for me at least). I don't have the whole album but definitely 4 or 5 Stevie songs. Honestly, the bigger (2nd) exception for me is Van Halen.
July 30, 200816 yr But I have to give it to Michael with Thriller. You may not love his music, but you have got to give him respect for the impact he had on pop music. Exactly. He definitely deserves the king of pop title. Thriller was a classic. Almost everyone steals his moves, even to this day. You have Justin Timberlake, Usher, etc. all trying to copy him. He's probably the most influential musician of all time despite all of his controversy.
July 30, 200816 yr I think you all forgot about the best musical act of all time: We didn't forget. The key word is "act" since teh people who recorded many of the songs weren't even recognized. the song was a straight rip off of "love sensation". But more 'funky', yes? "I'm gonna get mine, so get yours. I wanna see sweat comin' out your pores" Poetry. My question is...what, no GWAR?
July 30, 200816 yr Very hard to pick from that list. The majority of it sounds like you're reading the playlist on my iPod, with the exception of Michael Jackson. ...and Steve Wonder (for me at least). I don't have the whole album but definitely 4 or 5 Stevie songs. Honestly, the bigger (2nd) exception for me is Van Halen. I'm a little surprised Van Halen is on there. I love the band, and I love the album, but, with the exception of "Eruption", I don't see it as too ground breaking. Side note: my brothers in law met EVH a couple years ago and got to hang out with him at his house. He is apparently an incredibly cool guy, and kept them up until 3 am while he screwed around on his guitar, and told them stories about touring with David Lee Roth, and how Roth still owes him money :lol:
July 30, 200816 yr Top 21-65: 21. Billy Joel - The Stranger 22. Boston - Boston 23. Def Leppard - Hysteria 24. Carole King - Tapestry 25. Notorious B.I.G - Life After Death 26. Led Zeppelin II 27. Bon Jovi - Slippery When Wet 28. Phil Collins - No Jacket Required 29. Whitney Houston - Whitney Houston 30. Meat Loaf - Bat Out Of Hell 31. Van Halen - 1984 32. AC/DC - Back In Black 33. ZZ Top - Eliminator 34. Britney Spears - …Baby One More Time 35. Pearl Jam - Ten 36. Madonna - Like a Virgin 37. Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory 38. Def Leppard - Pyromania 39. Backstreet Boys - Backstreet Boys 40. The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band 41. Britney Spears - Oops!…I Did it Again 42. Boyz II - Men II 43. Norah Jones - Come Away With Me 44. Shania Twain - Up! 45. Kid Rock - Devil Without a Cause 46. N Sync - N Sync 47. Alanis Morissette - Jagged Little Pill 48. Mariah Carey - Music Box 49. Dixie Chicks - Fly 50. Dixie Chicks - Wide Open Spaces 51. Backstreet Boys - Millennium 52. Lionel Richie - Can't Slow Down 53. Mariah Carey - Daydream 54. Celine Dion - Falling into You 55. Santana - Supernatural 56. Shania Twain - Come On Over 57. Jewel - Pieces of You 58. Creed - Human Clay 59. Garth Brooks - Ropin' the Wind 60. Garth Brooks - No Fences 61. Green Day - Dookie 62. Garth Brooks - Sevens 63. TLC - CrazySexyCool 64. Outkast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below 65. Celine Dion - Let's Talk About Love
July 30, 200816 yr lawd, some of those titles. I'm embarrased to say I work in the music industry. oooooooohhhh
July 30, 200816 yr How did my faves not make the list?? :x It's a good thing they don't let ugly people make pop music anymore. I voted for Houses of the Holy, but could go with Physical Graffiti too. Love IV too, but I think it is overrated compared to their other albums. Alot of good choices in this list, though.
July 30, 200816 yr #66 Hey yo, Eazy...tell 'em what your name is! Please tell me you don't listen or play that out in Orange. LMAO! But then again, suburban white teens buy and play more rap music then any other segment of the population.
July 30, 200816 yr lawd, some of those titles. I'm embarrased to say I work in the music industry. oooooooohhhh Mariah Carey and Celine Dion may not be my cup of tea but I wouldn't argue that they aren't talented. Britney, Backstreet Boys, N Sync, um... :lol:
July 30, 200816 yr #66 Hey yo, Eazy...tell 'em what your name is! Please tell me you don't listen or play that out in Orange. LMAO! But then again, suburban white teens buy and play more rap music then any other segment of the population. I have it on cassette somewhere if you want to borrow it. My friends got me into Eazy / NWA / Gangsta rap in the late 80's. It allowed me to successfuly tap into my teen angst much more effectively than my previous method, which involved playing Huey Lewis too loudly.
July 30, 200816 yr I'm a little surprised Van Halen is on there. I love the band, and I love the album, but, with the exception of "Eruption", I don't see it as too ground breaking. The following mathematical formula was used: ‘Album Staying Power Value + Sales Value + Critical Rating Value + Grammy Award Value’ ‘The Top 20 Albums of All Time based purely on the analysis provided above and devoid of any personal opinion.’
July 30, 200816 yr I'm a little surprised Van Halen is on there. I love the band, and I love the album, but, with the exception of "Eruption", I don't see it as too ground breaking. The following mathematical formula was used: ‘Album Staying Power Value + Sales Value + Critical Rating Value + Grammy Award Value’ ‘The Top 20 Albums of All Time based purely on the analysis provided above and devoid of any personal opinion.’ Bah! There's no mathematical analysis in rock! :-P
July 30, 200816 yr Top 21-65: 21. Billy Joel - The Stranger 22. Boston - Boston 23. Def Leppard - Hysteria 24. Carole King - Tapestry 25. Notorious B.I.G - Life After Death 26. Led Zeppelin II 27. Bon Jovi - Slippery When Wet 28. Phil Collins - No Jacket Required 29. Whitney Houston - Whitney Houston 30. Meat Loaf - Bat Out Of Hell 31. Van Halen - 1984 32. AC/DC - Back In Black 33. ZZ Top - Eliminator 34. Britney Spears - …Baby One More Time 35. Pearl Jam - Ten 36. Madonna - Like a Virgin 37. Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory 38. Def Leppard - Pyromania 39. Backstreet Boys - Backstreet Boys 40. The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band 41. Britney Spears - Oops!…I Did it Again 42. Boyz II - Men II 43. Norah Jones - Come Away With Me 44. Shania Twain - Up! 45. Kid Rock - Devil Without a Cause 46. N Sync - N Sync 47. Alanis Morissette - Jagged Little Pill 48. Mariah Carey - Music Box 49. Dixie Chicks - Fly 50. Dixie Chicks - Wide Open Spaces 51. Backstreet Boys - Millennium 52. Lionel Richie - Can't Slow Down 53. Mariah Carey - Daydream 54. Celine Dion - Falling into You 55. Santana - Supernatural 56. Shania Twain - Come On Over 57. Jewel - Pieces of You 58. Creed - Human Clay 59. Garth Brooks - Ropin' the Wind 60. Garth Brooks - No Fences 61. Green Day - Dookie 62. Garth Brooks - Sevens 63. TLC - CrazySexyCool 64. Outkast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below 65. Celine Dion - Let's Talk About Love Almost all of those made me throw up in my mouth a little.
July 30, 200816 yr Only 1 artist/group has more #1 singles than Mariah Carey...that would be The Beatles.
July 30, 200816 yr ^^ Again using math to create a list about art is a waste of time. In all honesty, those How To Win at Hold 'Em Poker books have more statistical practicality than trying to force a scientific formula into a "best of" list and meekly say it's an "analysis of the situation". Anyone else could come up with a different value or variable of these artists and come up with a different list. His selective bias in creating his variables is his personal opinion. Enjoy the music you like, don't enjoy the music you don't. Don't tell me what the "best" is 'cause it's all opinion.
July 30, 200816 yr ^^ Again using math to create a list about art is a waste of time. In all honesty, those How To Win at Hold 'Em Poker books have more statistical practicality than trying to force a scientific formula into a "best of" list and meekly say it's an "analysis of the situation". Anyone else could come up with a different value or variable of these artists and come up with a different list. His selective bias in creating his variables is his personal opinion. Enjoy the music you like, don't enjoy the music you don't. Don't tell me what the "best" is 'cause it's all opinion. This is a list of the Top 20 Albums of all time...not necessarily the Best 20 Albums of all time.
July 30, 200816 yr ^^ Again using math to create a list about art is a waste of time. In all honesty, those How To Win at Hold 'Em Poker books have more statistical practicality than trying to force a scientific formula into a "best of" list and meekly say it's an "analysis of the situation". Anyone else could come up with a different value or variable of these artists and come up with a different list. His selective bias in creating his variables is his personal opinion. Enjoy the music you like, don't enjoy the music you don't. Don't tell me what the "best" is 'cause it's all opinion. This is a list of the Top 20 Albums of all time...not necessarily the Best 20 Albums of all time. Whether it's the Top 20 or the Best 20, it's all opinion. I can change any variable and switch the Top 20. Math can't judge art. Anyway..I'll stay away I'm veering into off-topic land. :)
July 30, 200816 yr ^^ Again using math to create a list about art is a waste of time. In all honesty, those How To Win at Hold 'Em Poker books have more statistical practicality than trying to force a scientific formula into a "best of" list and meekly say it's an "analysis of the situation". Anyone else could come up with a different value or variable of these artists and come up with a different list. His selective bias in creating his variables is his personal opinion. Enjoy the music you like, don't enjoy the music you don't. Don't tell me what the "best" is 'cause it's all opinion. This is a list of the Top 20 Albums of all time...not necessarily the Best 20 Albums of all time. Whether it's the Top 20 or the Best 20, it's all opinion. I can change any variable and switch the Top 20. Math can't judge art. Anyway..I'll stay away I'm veering into off-topic land. :) That is true with just about any data set, not just art related data. I use SQL statements on a daily basis, most of the time massaging the data to make it favorable for one reason or another.
July 30, 200816 yr If you're doing a Top 20 Selling Albums of all time then that's what it is. If you wanted to twist data around and say something like Top 20 Selling Albums (in the US) of all time than that's different. Or if you did something like Rolling Stone Magazine's 20 Best Albums of all time. I understand you can't quantify art like you're saying, but this is just ranking albums by a predefined measure. What's wrong with that?
July 30, 200816 yr ^^ Aye. Aye. That's why the list thing bothers me as "proof" of one thing over another. Unless you have something straightforward or simple (and art is neither)...it's easy to play around and get the results that please the creator then claim the formula is objective. :)
July 30, 200816 yr ...and what about Question Mark and the Mysterians (96 Tears); John Fred and the Playboy Band (Judy in Disguise--with Glasses); the Cowsills; and Cleveland's very own Eric Carmen and The Raspberries?? http://www.mainstreetpainesville.org/
July 30, 200816 yr >I anticipate a 47 paragraph reply from jmeck. Well these criteria have created a pointless list, I'm not sure how George Michael can make a top 20 and not The Rolling Stones, when U2 and The Rolling Stones are the only two bands who have and still can fill stadiums. Randy, so just how is Nirvana "your" music when you were a kid when they went out of business? At least I was old enough to get grounded from going to see them on a Tuesday or Wednesday night at Hara Arena back in '93. Also it's interesting to see Guns 'n Roses make the cut, there's just no way to describe to people too young to remember what a huge deal that band was. I think Appetite got banned from my school, I know The Beastie Boys and of course 2 Live Crew did. The only thing bigger than them was Michael Jackson during that Thriller period, but honestly that record only had 3-4 good songs on it and had some totally terrible ones.
July 30, 200816 yr Randy, so just how is Nirvana "your" music when you were a kid when they went out of business? At least I was old enough to get grounded from going to see them on a Tuesday or Wednesday night at Hara Arena back in '93. I too would have gotten grounded if I went to see at Hara Arena back in '93 (not sure what your point is). They're a band that is representative of the 90's. A decade that was Gen Xer's and Y's...being a part of the Y Generation and right on the cusp of the X Generation I don't see how I'm too far off. And let's be honest here who in the hell am I going to claim after that...N'Sync, Backstreet Boys, Britney. Give me a break, I can't help that I had to live through a dark time in music history.
July 30, 200816 yr Randy, so just how is Nirvana "your" music when you were a kid when they went out of business? At least I was old enough to get grounded from going to see them on a Tuesday or Wednesday night at Hara Arena back in '93. I too would have gotten grounded if I went to see at Hara Arena back in '93 (not sure what your point is). They're a band that is representative of the 90's. A decade that was Gen Xer's and Y's...being a part of the Y Generation and right on the cusp of the X Generation I don't see how I'm too far off. And let's be honest here who in the hell am I going to claim after that...N'Sync, Backstreet Boys, Britney. Give me a break, I can't help that I had to live through a dark time in music history. I happen to think we are STILL in a dark time. I have yet to hear a modern band that engages me and has the musical talent of bands like Floyd, Zeppelin, the Who, Allman Brothers, Byrds, etc.
July 30, 200816 yr ^three: Santana, Jimi Hendrix, The Clash. When you don't grow up with it, it's not quite the same. totally skimmed your list, my bad. And i totally agree with your statement. 20 years from now we'll sound like RockandRoller...(not a stab RnR)
July 30, 200816 yr By the way, Weezer's Blue Album and Pinkerton are two of my favorite cd's ever, too. Their new music, I think, stinks, however.
July 30, 200816 yr ^three: Santana, Jimi Hendrix, The Clash. When you don't grow up with it, it's not quite the same. totally skimmed your list, my bad. And i totally agree with your statement. 20 years from now we'll sound like RockandRoller...(not a stab RnR) No offense taken. :) It just boggles my mind to think that anyone will be nostalgic for music of the 90s some day. I mean, I have heard songs by just about every group on c-dawg's list (well, there are a handful I've never heard of) and none of the more modern bands have made much of anything I've wanted to listen to twice. I've tried, I think some of us older people just have a different "sound" in our ears as to what music is. It's probably always been that way with the different generations. Obviously the Cleavers and I Love Lucy set couldn't figure out what was so great about classic rock, but I think the popularity of the better groups has stood the test of time for quite awhile. So much of the 80s was one-hit wonders and bad metal, there's not much to take from that and musically, to me, the 90s were just a blur, and the 00s had me just tuning completely out to anything "current" or popular as we got into the age of American Idol and everyone WAILING, and all the rock bands sound the same, and all the songs on their albums sound the same. I had to ride down to Hocking Hills last year with a co-worker who listens to nothing but stuff like Slipknot and Incubus and stuff like that and I swear every song sounded the same after awhile; all the singers sound the same, the songs have the same chord progression, it's just uninteresting musically or lyrically. I hate to feel like I'm becoming an old codger, but clearly I am.
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