Sorry to be difficult, but isn't Tilted Kilt in the building next to May Company? Not technically IN May Company?

Its in the May Company garage so people consider it to be part of it.

Thanks.  In that case...

 

Tilted Kilt opens Wednesday in downtown Cleveland

 

Published: Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 2:41 PM    Updated: Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 3:02 PM

  By Joe Crea, The Plain Dealer

 

Tilted Kilt Pub & Eatery, the Celtic-themed modern sports pub featuring "sexy cast members" sporting short, snug plaid kilts and cropped tops, opens Wednesday at 21 Prospect Ave. in downtown Cleveland-- directly adjacent to the soon-to-open Horseshoe Cleveland Casino. Until early last December, the space formerly housed Fat Fish Blue. The kilts, along with Irish-themed fare like Gaelic Chicken and Shepherd's Pie (not to mention 24 brews on tap) are big attractions at the rapidly growing chain of restaurants, founded in Las Vegas in 2003. (Learn more about the restaurant at tiltedkilt.com).

 

http://www.cleveland.com/taste/index.ssf/2012/04/tilted_kilt_opens_thursday_in.html

Just got back from the Tilted Kilt.  It was really good and really crowded!!!!!!!

 

I cant figure out why this would be getting covered up today. Is Cadillac Ranch outta here?

Maybe something's been posted about this and Im missing it...

 

^ Well thats confusing

 

If Cadillac Ranch was closing wouldn't they be taking it down, not covering it up?

Granite City - a brewpub that I know has been snooping in CLE (Cedar Road) recent bought variuos Cadillac Ranches - but not this one (or not yet announced at least that I could find). I found a June article that said CLE was in their future plans... Could be that. Could not be that...

Maybe were overanalyzing but on their website:

http://cadillacranchgroup.com/index.html

at the bottom are locations and Cleveland is NOT listed... ?

This would be a great Dave & Buster's space...

I think these are the ones bought by Granite City - though not sure if they are turning into brewpubs or staying Cadillac Ranch... CLE Ranch has own website.

Maybe were overanalyzing but on their website:

http://cadillacranchgroup.com/index.html

at the bottom are locations and Cleveland is NOT listed... ?

 

And from a google search it appears to have been listed before. Good find. Im thinking this place has closed down.

I just called their number and it went to machine. They should be open right now.

Looking at Granite City's website I noticed not one urban location.  Everyone was either in a suburb or far out in a city.  Seems strange they would change up their M.O., but not out of the question.

I can't help but feel this is good news.  Time to turn May Company building back into a department store!!!  :-P

 

In all seriousness, I think its a prime spot and something a lot better than CR can be a success here.

I walk by that Cadillac Ranch around lunchtime everyday, and although I used to see people sitting outside it's been empty the past several days.

Made a phone call and the place is now called Cowboy Rock.....not sure who owns it.

Excitement gone... lol

Well that was nice while it lasted. Lol

 

Yeah, much ado about nothing much.

Ah well, maybe the space'll get spruced up a bit ...cleaned up with new stuff. Maybe not.

It looks like they're putting some kind of box or covering around the Cadillac "parked" above the door. I hope it's the precursor to removing that car. If they're just going to cover that over, can you imagine the surprise that some renovation crew is going to get in 50 years when they redo that place for temporary housing to accommodate the massive influx of immigrants flooding in Cleveland to enjoy its booming economy and global warming-heated climate!

 

But seriously, merely hiding that car (if that's what they're doing) is pretty lazy.

Born and raised in Cleveland, living in Cincinnati. I follow the Cleveland forums.

 

The Cadillac Ranch in Cincinnati closed about  12 or 7 months ago. A few months before that I believe the FBI or some other agency closed down the Ranch for a day or 2 and took boxes of files out. Think they were getting into tax trouble and stopped paying the mortgage/rent. The place was packed  on the weekends. I think it is a result of really bad management. Would not be surprised if the Cleveland local was is gone.

 

 

If you visit the PositivelyCleveland site it shows CowboyRock as 200 Euclid Ave and sends you to the Cadillac Ranch website. So it looks like it may be a re-branding of some sort. Wonder why that property can't attract a more stable tenant.

 

But also there is a mention of a possible Cleveland location on the Granite City twitter feed.

https://mobile.twitter.com/WagsGC/status/217618940241776642

More on Granite City posted in CLE restaurant thread...

5/20/12 from Rocco Whalen... how'd this go undetected... hmmmm

 

Rocco Whalen ‏@Rock1chef

In other news Cadillac Ranch downtown is now called cowboy rock, anyone ever been? I have not cadillacs and cowboys? I never would have ..

"How can we rebrand ourselves to make the heart of the city appear even more douchey and off-putting???"

5/20/12 from Rocco Whalen... how'd this go undetected... hmmmm

 

Rocco Whalen ‏@Rock1chef

In other news Cadillac Ranch downtown is now called cowboy rock, anyone ever been? I have not cadillacs and cowboys? I never would have ..

 

I saw that, however I had just thought he was mistaken.  The sliding doors have said "Cowboy Rock" for the past 5 months or so, just assumed it was some updated marketing or something.  I walk by this everyday, but never really stop and look at it ... mostly because it is as djunior said above.

Such as not letting someone in a tank top in but allowing someone in a plain white tee with ketchup and mustard stains...ya...this place can go lol.

"How can we rebrand ourselves to make the heart of the city appear even more douchey and off-putting???"

 

What exactly does that mean?

^"Horseshoe Casino"...... "Cowboy Rock"....... maybe they can build a giant Honky Tonk on the Jacobs lot (plenty of room for the trailers in the lot directly to the west)....

 

 

Dont forget the Toby Keith joint! I say, if everyone wants to move to Austin, let's make Cleveland more like Austin. Yee haa!

 

(I'm not actually saying that....just btw)

I personally hate the cowboy/western theme in association with CLE. There is absolutely nothing downtown or in the history of the city that makes me think about rodeos or cattle. This is not Dallas or Denver.

I personally hate the cowboy/western theme in association with CLE. There is absolutely nothing downtown or in the history of the city that makes me think about rodeos or cattle. This is not Dallas or Denver.

 

Agreed, (as stated in the FEB thread) but I have come along and agreed that it's diversifying our entertainment options.  I also visited a few "hillbilly" (yeah, that how i feel) western venues in NYC & Philly over the last two weeks and they have a certain genre and niche that may bring more folks downtown.  I wont patronize these venues, but if it helps bring more folks downtown Cleveland or introduce more people to Cleveland (NE Ohio) then I'm behind it.

 

Venues like this entering the market also an indicator that our leisure tourist market is on the upswing.

To be fair, the casino doesn't have a western theme. Nothing in the casino suggests it. Horsehoes are generally associated with luck: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucky_Charms

To be fair, the casino doesn't have a western theme. Nothing in the casino suggests it. Horsehoes are generally associated with luck: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucky_Charms

Yeah I'm not sure why HTS121 said that.  Lets not make, this a bigger deal than it is (or take it any further off topic) as I would hate to think, that some people think, a few venues will associate our city with one particular genre.  ;D

 

....carry on.....

I personally hate the cowboy/western theme in association with CLE. There is absolutely nothing downtown or in the history of the city that makes me think about rodeos or cattle. This is not Dallas or Denver.

 

Agreed, (as stated in the FEB thread) but I have come along and agreed that it's diversifying our entertainment options.  I also visited a few "hillbilly" (yeah, that how i feel) western venues in NYC & Philly over the last two weeks and they have a certain genre and niche that may bring more folks downtown.  I wont patronize these venues, but if it helps bring more folks downtown Cleveland or introduce more people to Cleveland (NE Ohio) then I'm behind it.

 

Venues like this entering the market also an indicator that our leisure tourist market is on the upswing.

 

I generally agree with this line of thinking. I was mostly just poking fun with my last post.

 

There's value in a way a neighborhood brands and markets itself and the types of businesses it holds play a big part in that. Places like "Cowboy Rock" aren't my ideal for this location, but I don't think we're in a position to be quite so discriminating yet.

There is a lot of making fun of peoples interests that aren't their own.  People like country themed places, people like irish pubs, people like the tilted kilt, people like fine dining and people like sandwich shops.  Why shouldn't there be western themed bars if the market supports it? and who are people to say these places don't belong downtown just because they don't fit into the mold they envision for the city? 

 

Cadillac ranch was one of the first big venues to invest in downtown during this recent resurgence. I think it exposes a prejudice about the rural culture from the people who make fun of it and judge it to be unworthy of euclid ave.

There is a lot of making fun of peoples interests that aren't their own.  People like country themed places, people like irish pubs, people like the tilted kilt, people like fine dining and people like sandwich shops.  Why shouldn't there be western themed bars if the market supports it? and who are people to say these places don't belong downtown just because they don't fit into the mold they envision for the city? 

 

Cadillac ranch was one of the first big venues to invest in downtown during this recent resurgence. I think it exposes a prejudice about the rural culture from the people who make fun of it and judge it to be unworthy of euclid ave.

I don't think Cadillac ranch was ridiculed from going on Euclid, I myself said it's a bad location.  A restaurant should not be the only large tenant in a space that was built to be a department store.  A damn department store should be there!  But I digress.

To be fair, the casino doesn't have a western theme. Nothing in the casino suggests it. Horsehoes are generally associated with luck: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucky_Charms

Yeah I'm not sure why HTS121 said that.  Lets not make, this a bigger deal than it is (or take it any further off topic) as I would hate to think, that some people think, a few venues will associate our city with one particular genre.  ;D

 

....carry on.....

 

I haven't been inside, but I remember discussion when the brand was announced that Horeshoe casinos are typically western themed.  I was under the impression that they just toned down that theme for our casino.

To be fair, the casino doesn't have a western theme. Nothing in the casino suggests it. Horsehoes are generally associated with luck: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucky_Charms

Yeah I'm not sure why HTS121 said that.  Lets not make, this a bigger deal than it is (or take it any further off topic) as I would hate to think, that some people think, a few venues will associate our city with one particular genre.  ;D

 

....carry on.....

 

I haven't been inside, but I remember discussion when the brand was announced that Horeshoe casinos are typically western themed.  I was under the impression that they just toned down that theme for our casino.

 

No, the casino in Memphis was western themed.  Check ours out, it's one of the best Harrah's casinos ive been in.  You do know that if it were tacky I would have complained already. Besides, I really can't complain considering I've won $1300 already!

There is a lot of making fun of peoples interests that aren't their own.  People like country themed places, people like irish pubs, people like the tilted kilt, people like fine dining and people like sandwich shops.  Why shouldn't there be western themed bars if the market supports it? and who are people to say these places don't belong downtown just because they don't fit into the mold they envision for the city? 

 

Cadillac ranch was one of the first big venues to invest in downtown during this recent resurgence. I think it exposes a prejudice about the rural culture from the people who make fun of it and judge it to be unworthy of euclid ave.

 

There's a difference between rural culture and a place that uses said culture as a marketing gimmick. Just as I have no problem with NYC, but I don't want restaurants here putting up a faux NYC skyline up as a storefront. That kind of inauthenticity is the reason Vegas is kinda awesome in a way, but also terrible and tacky to the extreme.

 

Jeez - how about generalizations.  I actually LIKE country music!  I'm not a hillbilly, nor am I rural.  I live in Old Brooklyn.  I think some views are quite skewed - you don't think "rural" people like hiphop or modern music?!?  Good grief.  Believe it or not - country music is VERY popular in NEOhio and actually is very underserved with venues and radio stations for the amount of interest in it.  I may not be going to a country bar to boot-scoot (i feel silly even typing that) or to ride a mechanical bull - but I would go if it brought smaller name country musicians and would have no problem going for a beer or food. 

As someone with hillbilly roots, I'm hearing a lot of open prejudice here.  That being said I agree that department store spaces are best suited for department stores.

Hillbilly debate aside can anyone confirm or deny that this place is staying open, changing names, or closing??

I'm sure the building owner is not turning down a department store because they want a Cadillac ranch instead lol. Unfortunatly no department store wants to come downtown.

As someone with hillbilly roots, I'm hearing a lot of open prejudice here. 

 

Just imagine if a hip-hop venue were announced for this space....

As someone with hillbilly roots, I'm hearing a lot of open prejudice here. 

 

Just imagine if a hip-hop venue were announced for this space....

 

Lets not and move on! 

I was digging for info on the C-Ranch situation and found this in a purchase agreement for Granite City buying the Pittsburgh Cadillac Ranch

 

"(b)          In addition to Seller’s and REG’s obligations set forth in Section 2.7(a) of the Master Agreement, at the Closing under this Agreement, Seller and REG, as applicable, will be further obligated to execute and deliver the following:

 

(i)            an agreement between Seller and REG terminating the Management Agreement between Seller and REG dated June 9, 2010;

 

(ii)          a bill of sale substantially in the form of Exhibit 2.5(d) for all of the Assets that are tangible personal property and used in the operation of the Pittsburgh Restaurant;

 

(iii)          the financial statements required to be delivered pursuant to section 3.2 of this Agreement;

 

(iv)          evidence that REG and Seller have caused the following parties to cease and desist from using the Marks, Copyrights, Trade Secrets and Net Names: CR Sparks Ranch West, LLC; CR Las Vegas, LLC; Nashville Midnight Oil, LLC; Cincinnati F.S., LLC; and CR Cleveland, LLC, together with an assignment to Buyer from such parties of all of their right, title and interest, including goodwill, in and to the Marks, Copyrights, Trade Secrets and Net Names in the form reasonably acceptable in form and substance to Buyer within sixty (60) days after Closing;

 

(v)          separate noncompetition agreements substantially in the form of Exhibit 2.5(g) executed by Seller, Owner, REG, Jon H. Field and Joel A. Field;

 

(vi)          evidence of the Consents relating to the operation of the Pittsburgh Restaurant identified in Exhibit 7.3 of the Master Agreement, or the delivery of such Consents has been waived in whole or in part by Buyer;

 

 

Read more: http://www.faqs.org/sec-filings/120113/GRANITE-CITY-FOOD-and-BREWERY-LTD_8-K/a12-2740_1ex10d1.htm#b#ixzz1z8eW9KOR"

 

Unfortunately purchase agreements aren't my expertise.  :-P  What does that mean?  Sorry if it means nothing, just thought Id put it up

^ The Cadillac Ranch locations that Granite City didn't buy are not allowed to use the CR trademark. Granite City wants control over their concepts instead of having license and franchise agreements.

It's now painted black yay :/

That's bizarre -- and very cheap looking.