People don't even stay out late any more. A lot of bars are ghost towns after midnight.

Did the residents tell you they were attracted to the area because of the bars?  If not, don't you think it's a bit presumptuous to say so?  I suspect the charm, beauty and scale of much of the architecture in the area were attractions.  The location's also close to Washington Park and Music Hall, which easily could've been attractions.  If the residents were mainly attracted by bars, then why did they oppose this one?

 

Again, I suspect the residents relied on any laws or regulations, or interpretations thereof, they could in order to defeat this proposal because they didn't want an OUTDOOR bar nearby with the associated boisterousness, that can carry surprising distances in urban settings, it could cause.  The streets are so narrow there and the buildings are so dense that I'm really kind of surprised the developer thought he could get away with the plan without staunch opposition from residents.  SMH...

What created the interest in Vine Street as a destination that was capable of financially supporting new construction? As gorgeous as the architecture is, that wasn't what changed the course of OTR. It was that it was becoming a nightlife destination.

 

The opposition literally started with the second floor unit which would have had its windows blocked. This is straight from the mouth of residents that live in the building. They opposed it because the second story addition would block their windows. They then found whatever roundabout method to oppose it they could and worked up neighbors to gain support. Again, this is from the mouths of residents of this building.

 

It's absurd to be annoyed at a bar opening up in an area renowned for its bars and zoned for them. Say whatever you want, this is the fault of the residents for expecting no businesses to open up around them. It's irresponsible to buy a property and expect all neighboring properties to remain the same and follow your own personal interpretation of what's appropriate. If you didn't want a bar possibly being built next door, don't buy a property next door to a building zoned for commercial space. It's that simple.

 

I looked at tons of condos in OTR and Downtown. Several I liked a lot more than the one I settled on. But the one I settled on backs up to property zoned residential and faces away from the street so it's quieter than the ones that opened right out onto, say, Vine Street or Main Street. You have to think ahead. Nobody else should have to sacrifice their ventures because you didn't bother to look into what could be built next door to you.

Jmicha I think your being too harsh on your views.

 

Republic Street is a residential street that house alot of families and children. The fact of the matter is, people want to be able to have some peace and quiet. A chatty roof top bar doesn't help with that. I think we should focus on streets like Main and Vine to be those areas, rather than shoving these type of places wherever we can.

 

At the end of the day, people aren't moving to OTR strictly for the night life. Some people are moving there because it's close to various fortune 500 companies located blocks away. Some people are moving for the great ameneties of Washington Park/Music Hall/Shakespear theater/the other entertainment options. Some people are moving there because they want to be close to UC, but want to live in a more unique setting that the housing options in Clifton.

 

There's alot of reasons why people are moving to OTR, and I think we should respect that by not shoving bars (especially with a rooftop that will get super loud during the afternoon/night hours) wherever we possibly can.

But that's exactly the point I'm making. There are so many other options available elsewhere if you don't want to be directly next to bars and restaurants.

 

That corner is a commercial corner. It has always been, the buildings are designed and zoned to be, and it should continue to be. It's not "shoving bars wherever we possibly can" it's putting them in the existing commercial buildings that have historically always been commercial. For the cost of those condos in the 14th and Vine building you can afford areas that are strictly residential if you're not interested in hearing late night activity. Which I can understand. I chose not to buy directly above bars because I knew that I would grow tired of hearing that every night. You have to be smart about analyzing a property's surroundings before actually purchasing.

 

There are a ton of great reasons to move to OTR, I definitely agree with that statement, but one of them is definitely that there are active commercial zones that should be respected. Living in one (which 14th and Republic is, even if smaller scale than others) comes with its pros and cons. Noise is one of those cons. That should always be understood when choosing to buy property abutting commercial property.

 

I've said what I feel though, so I'm thinking it's time to "agree to disagree" since this could go on forever.

Some people are moving there because they want to be close to UC, but want to live in a more unique setting that the housing options in Clifton.

 

By and large, I don't believe this to be accurate.

I have had 2 friends just this past year move from there apartments close to Clifton to OTR in order to be closer to all the amenities that OTR offers.

 

For instance, they really love holtman donuts and gomez (like it's there life), so it's a big thing for them to be able to eat that on a daily basis.

What about the long time low income residents on Republic who don't have air conditioning, keep their windows open at night, and are located ABOVE the rooftop bar? To hell with them I guess, so the salmon shorts Hyde Park crowd has another place to party before puking in the Mercer garage and drunk driving back to from whence they came.

You know full well Derek that Quan Happa was more than cooperative about making sure their wall is closed late at night as to not disturb people in Trinity Flats. And that's precisely why they were self-imposing restrictions on rooftop hours. Because they didn't want to be a problem. Why do people keep disregarding that?

 

Did you and the residents at 14th and Vine do sound level studies to prove that the bar would be loud late at night when they've closed their own rooftop? Did you then determine that Low Spark and Salazar's operable walls would produce more noise (since those absolutely would be louder than this new bar after its roof closed) and seek out restrictions on those?

 

Because I've seen nothing from you guys about those bars being a problem for the longtime residents until it has the potential to affect a resident in the complex which you live in. A tad convenient.

Looks like the Race Inn is closing

I went in there after the Opening Day parade. It's pretty run down, but they have a pretty big space and a large outdoor patio.

Looks like the Race Inn is closing

 

WOW, THAT's HUGE!!!  That bar is a huge drug dealing center in the neighborhood.  Where did you hear this?

Looks like the Race Inn is closing

 

WOW, THAT's HUGE!!!  That bar is a huge drug dealing center in the neighborhood.  Where did you hear this?

 

There's a sign on the building that says its for sale.

Look at that building's transfer history (going back to 1983): http://wedge3.hcauditor.org/view/re/0940008006900/2015/transfers

 

Let's hope it gets more than the highest historic sale price ($0).

Over-the-Rhine's first board game bar is now open

 

 

Over-the-Rhine's newest bar, which combines more than 800 classic and new board games with boozy beverages from beer to Capri Sun cocktails, is now open on Vine Street.

 

The Rook OTR opened for business at 1115 Vine St. at 11 a.m. Tuesday. The Rook has everything from classic games like Risk, Monopoly, Battleship and Candy Land to newer strategy games – so-called "Euro Games" – like Settlers of Catan, King of Tokyo and Pandemic. Click on the photos below for a look inside.

 

More below:

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2016/05/24/over-the-rhines-first-board-game-bar-is-now-open.html

Very well done promo video (short film) for The Rook:

 

Is this place in Japps Annex?

Holy smokes that promo video is well done for such a new small business.  I would have expected it to be a little bit more celebratory in tone as opposed to such melodrama, though, considering how many other bars in the neighborhood already offer the board game experience.  I'd assume the hardcore board game fans who would be most likely to respond to this ultra-nostalgic tone would've found their favorite OTR spot years ago.

 

EDIT: Realized my original wording was confusing - clarifying that board game enthusiasts probably already have a favorite OTR board game bar.

Nostalgia marketing is well refined and pretty formulaic at this point. That video does a great job of doing it though - it's hard to find a frame that doesn't have several different examples of "things millennials like" scattered about.

 

Is this place in Japps Annex?

 

Its on Vine between Central Parkway and 12th Street - a good thing for that block since it's mostly dead despite how much activity goes on one block north of it.

Do they have Crossfire?

 

 

Holy smokes that promo video is well done for such a new small business.  I would have expected it to be a little bit more celebratory in tone as opposed to such melodrama, though, considering how many other bars in the neighborhood already offer the board game experience.  I'd assume the hardcore board game fans who would be most likely to respond to this ultra-nostalgic tone would've found their favorite OTR spot years ago.

 

EDIT: Realized my original wording was confusing - clarifying that board game enthusiasts probably already have a favorite OTR board game bar.

 

There is no, "other" game board bar in OTR. Nor in Cincinnati really, this is pretty much the first full fledged dedicated game board parlor that I've come across here in Cincinnati/NKY

Do they have Crossfire?

 

 

 

A stock Crossfire setup isn't going to fare well with all those different people using it. The guns would definitely need to be modified for durability. Might want to change the play surface as well.

Holy smokes that promo video is well done for such a new small business.  I would have expected it to be a little bit more celebratory in tone as opposed to such melodrama, though, considering how many other bars in the neighborhood already offer the board game experience.  I'd assume the hardcore board game fans who would be most likely to respond to this ultra-nostalgic tone would've found their favorite OTR spot years ago.

 

EDIT: Realized my original wording was confusing - clarifying that board game enthusiasts probably already have a favorite OTR board game bar.

 

There is no, "other" game board bar in OTR. Nor in Cincinnati really, this is pretty much the first full fledged dedicated game board parlor that I've come across here in Cincinnati/NKY

 

There most definitely are "other" board game bars in OTR.  Halfcut and Moerlein Malt House have been offering extensive board game collections with significant followings and regular crowds for years.  The fact that The Rook is presenting themselves as a 'dedicated board game bar' doesn't make them the first.

There have been coffee shops and bars with board games in them for decades.  I'm baffled as to why anyone would think this is new, or would pay to play these things in public when they can just go back to their house.  Next they're be a OTR bar offering "darts" and "pool" and "photohunt". 

A stock Crossfire setup isn't going to fare well with all those different people using it. The guns would definitely need to be modified for durability. Might want to change the play surface as well.

 

 

It was a completely horrible game.  Everyone got bored with it within 5 minutes.  It's as if the whole game was launched by the company just to have a Dio-themed commercial.  I had some friends in college who would periodically interrupt the social proceedings with a sung rendition of that commercial. 

 

edit:

I also now remember that I got together with one of those guys to form a band called Beerwolf, which only practiced one time, and we attempted to cover that song, but watching the commercial now on youtube, we had the lyrics way wrong.  The passion was there, though. 

There have been coffee shops and bars with board games in them for decades.  I'm baffled as to why anyone would think this is new, or would pay to play these things in public when they can just go back to their house.  Next they're be a OTR bar offering "darts" and "pool" and "photohunt". 

 

With the exception of Moerlein and Cincy by the Slice, I can't think of a single bar in OTR that has darts or pool. (Maybe the Race Street Inn does, haven't been there in years)

There have been coffee shops and bars with board games in them for decades.  I'm baffled as to why anyone would think this is new, or would pay to play these things in public when they can just go back to their house.  Next they're be a OTR bar offering "darts" and "pool" and "photohunt". 

 

With the exception of Moerlein and Cincy by the Slice, I can't think of a single bar in OTR that has darts or pool. (Maybe the Race Street Inn does, haven't been there in years)

 

Add Neons to that list.

 

EDIT: Neon's to Neons.

None of you guys get this concept which has worked plenty of other places... There is at least one of these bars in Columbus and their are several in Chicago.

 

So the difference here between say the highland cafe which randomly has boardgames lying around with a few missing pieces and what I understand this bar is going for is focus.  There is a pretty large tabletop gaming community, and for those who are into tabletop games but not willing to go to some specialty shop (see arkham game house for instance) to socialize over games, but perhaps a different atmosphere with the same quality of game selection you'd find a game store but in a hipper cooler environment one would get in OTR (and you can get beer too as a means of helping the social atmosphere).  You're going to get the kind of focus on tabletop gaming you'd get from a game shop along with the cooler social atmosphere one would get with a bar in a hip neighborhood - it could even be sold as a date spot. This fits a niche.

 

The reason for this bar existing is not hard to understand folks its not too much different from why barcades are a big deal even though many of us have game consoles and some old pizza places still have a few cabinets lying around.  I think based on their promotion, outreach, and location they will be pretty successful too. (besides how many people are around 12th and vine waiting to get seated who may want to kill time by playing a game over a beer or too, there is a market beyond the core gamer market too).

Crossfire cover :D -

None of you guys get this concept which has worked plenty of other places... There is at least one of these bars in Columbus and their are several in Chicago.

 

So the difference here between say the highland cafe which randomly has boardgames lying around with a few missing pieces and what I understand this bar is going for is focus.  There is a pretty large tabletop gaming community, and for those who are into tabletop games but not willing to go to some specialty shop (see arkham game house for instance) to socialize over games, but perhaps a different atmosphere with the same quality of game selection you'd find a game store but in a hipper cooler environment one would get in OTR (and you can get beer too as a means of helping the social atmosphere).  You're going to get the kind of focus on tabletop gaming you'd get from a game shop along with the cooler social atmosphere one would get with a bar in a hip neighborhood - it could even be sold as a date spot. This fits a niche.

 

The reason for this bar existing is not hard to understand folks its not too much different from why barcades are a big deal even though many of us have game consoles and some old pizza places still have a few cabinets lying around.  I think based on their promotion, outreach, and location they will be pretty successful too. (besides how many people are around 12th and vine waiting to get seated who may want to kill time by playing a game over a beer or too, there is a market beyond the core gamer market too).

 

Dude, you don't get it at all.  Nobody ever implied that this concept wouldn't work - in fact we're all saying the exact opposite.  If you think that this is even a remotely original idea in OTR, either that promo video is really working its magic on you or you've never stepped foot in Moerlein or Halfcut.  Those bars already have the exact same board game selection, hip social atmosphere, and devoted following of the tabletop gaming community you mention above, and have been thriving for years.

Do they have Stop Thief?  One of my friends could get me to laugh every time when he'd sternly turn to me and say "Stop, Thief!" in the voice of this commercial's narrator. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There have been coffee shops and bars with board games in them for decades.  I'm baffled as to why anyone would think this is new, or would pay to play these things in public when they can just go back to their house.  Next they're be a OTR bar offering "darts" and "pool" and "photohunt". 

 

With the exception of Moerlein and Cincy by the Slice, I can't think of a single bar in OTR that has darts or pool. (Maybe the Race Street Inn does, haven't been there in years)

 

Add Neons to that list.

 

EDIT: Neon's to Neons.

 

Forgot about the upstairs. And Pitifuls might now that I think of it, but still not very many for as many bars as there are in OTR.

Do they have Stop Thief?  One of my friends could get me to laugh every time when he'd sternly turn to me and say "Stop, Thief!" in the voice of this commercial's narrator. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Commercials were much better before pill, home medical equipment and catheter commercials became legal. Now it's all medical, class action lawsuits and minivan ads.

None of you guys get this concept which has worked plenty of other places... There is at least one of these bars in Columbus and their are several in Chicago.

 

So the difference here between say the highland cafe which randomly has boardgames lying around with a few missing pieces and what I understand this bar is going for is focus.  There is a pretty large tabletop gaming community, and for those who are into tabletop games but not willing to go to some specialty shop (see arkham game house for instance) to socialize over games, but perhaps a different atmosphere with the same quality of game selection you'd find a game store but in a hipper cooler environment one would get in OTR (and you can get beer too as a means of helping the social atmosphere).  You're going to get the kind of focus on tabletop gaming you'd get from a game shop along with the cooler social atmosphere one would get with a bar in a hip neighborhood - it could even be sold as a date spot. This fits a niche.

 

The reason for this bar existing is not hard to understand folks its not too much different from why barcades are a big deal even though many of us have game consoles and some old pizza places still have a few cabinets lying around.  I think based on their promotion, outreach, and location they will be pretty successful too. (besides how many people are around 12th and vine waiting to get seated who may want to kill time by playing a game over a beer or too, there is a market beyond the core gamer market too).

 

Dude, you don't get it at all.  Nobody ever implied that this concept wouldn't work - in fact we're all saying the exact opposite.  If you think that this is even a remotely original idea in OTR, either that promo video is really working its magic on you or you've never stepped foot in Moerlein or Halfcut.  Those bars already have the exact same board game selection, hip social atmosphere, and devoted following of the tabletop gaming community you mention above, and have been thriving for years.

 

You guys are arguing different points. While this certainly isn't the first bar to have board games in Cincinnati, it is the first that defines itself as a "board game bar". They will have a lot of more obscure games that you certainly wouldn't find at Moerlein or Half Cut. And they will probably take better care of them, so the games will not be missing pieces like they often are at other bars.

Probably some more boutique-type games such as Steve Jackson ones as well.

 

 

Commercials were much better before pill, home medical equipment and catheter commercials became legal. Now it's all medical, class action lawsuits and minivan ads.

 

I just realized that the narrator is probably the same one from the GI Joe commercials.  That's what's coming next -- a bar where you can play with GI Joe toys.  The aircraft carrier would be the centerpiece. 

 

 

 

I don't get it.  When I was in college, the only people sitting around playing board games were the RA's and the other goody-goodies.  A board game revival is not going to make America great again. 

 

 

 

 

Wine bar and restaurant opens in Incline District

 

 

A wine bar and restaurant is now open in the Incline District of East Price Hill.

 

Somm Wine Bar, located at 3105 Price Ave., officially opened on May 25. The wine bar is located in the same building as Bloc Coffee Co. and less than half a mile from the Warsaw Federal Incline Theater and the Incline Public House.

 

More below:

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2016/05/26/wine-bar-and-restaurant-opens-in-incline-district.html

 

 

Commercials were much better before pill, home medical equipment and catheter commercials became legal. Now it's all medical, class action lawsuits and minivan ads.

 

I just realized that the narrator is probably the same one from the GI Joe commercials.  That's what's coming next -- a bar where you can play with GI Joe toys.  The aircraft carrier would be the centerpiece. 

 

 

 

I don't get it.  When I was in college, the only people sitting around playing board games were the RA's and the other goody-goodies.  A board game revival is not going to make America great again. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That thing costs $1000.

 

Now if you want a Dio-themed commercial...

 

 

I miss the old Blue Wisp.

 

Bryce Harper (Washington Nationals) at The Eagle in OTR. If he's a slow eater, he still may be there.

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/BGK2dshgITv/

Bryce Harper (Washington Nationals) at The Eagle in OTR. If he's a slow eater, he still may be there.

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/BGK2dshgITv/

Looks like he also went to off the vine and Bakersfield...good for cincy to have athletes want to explore the area.

 

 

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New downtown Cincinnati lounge to open

 

 

A new nightlife venue is opening its doors in downtown Cincinnati later this month, the Enquirer reports.

 

Edet Wettee is opening his first venue called Prvlgd Lounge & Bistro on July 16 at 301 W. Fifth St.

 

More below:

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2016/07/05/new-downtown-cincinnati-lounge-to-open.html

They're naming a bar Privileged without the vowels? This has been a tough location to keep open, and I don't have a lot of faith in this newest incarnation.

They're naming a bar Privileged without the vowels? This has been a tough location to keep open, and I don't have a lot of faith in this newest incarnation.

 

Which is replacing the failed "Societe" and around the corner from the destined-to-fail "Vyrsed". It's a tough neighborhood for anybody who cares about spelling.

They're naming a bar Privileged without the vowels? This has been a tough location to keep open, and I don't have a lot of faith in this newest incarnation.

 

Which is replacing the failed "Societe" and around the corner from the destined-to-fail "Vyrsed". It's a tough neighborhood for anybody who cares about spelling.

 

The locations look good on paper but they have no character. 

 

 

Yea very dumb names. People need to start taking cures from the clubs that Stefan used to talk about on SNL, at least those related to something even if it was crazy.

^^I think it's more that it's surrounded by dead space and not so much about the lack of character. There are plenty of places that do well and don't have much character, but they do all run together and you forget they exist. The Dunhumby building, 84.51, seems to be adding some more life to the area, but it's still a dead space at 5th and Plum unless there is a big convention in town or a Bengals game.

Look inside downtown's newest wine bar

 

 

A new downtown Cincinnati wine bar and retail shop that stocks more than 400 bottles is now open for business.

 

Corkopolis officially opened its doors on June 27 at 640 Main St. The urban wine bar was opened by the owners of Cork 'N Bottle in Crescent Springs.

 

More below:

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2016/07/07/look-inside-downtowns-newest-wine-bar-photos.html

Downtown bowling alley gets new owner

 

 

The new owner of a downtown Cincinnati bowling alley is planning a few changes to the venue’s operation, WCPO reports.

 

DB Entertainment purchased Spare Lounge at 35 E. Seventh St. two weeks ago. Owner DeBron Betts said he’s planning to use the venue to provide more opportunities for corporate and special events along with late-night programming and leagues.

 

More below:

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2016/07/19/downtown-bowling-alley-gets-new-owner.html

Former punk opening 'low-key cocktail bar' in OTR

 

 

A veteran of the D.C. punk scene – and the New York, Boston and Cincinnati bar scenes – is opening a new cocktail bar and cafe in Over-the-Rhine.

 

Mike Stankovich, former guitarist for Striking Distance in Washington, D.C., is opening Peacemaker at 111 13th St. in OTR. He hopes to have the space open by October.

 

More below:

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2016/08/10/former-punk-opening-low-key-cocktail-bar-in-otr.html