September 19, 200717 yr That makes Cincinnati the only Ohio city with downtown department stores? Hamilton has a downtown Elder-Beerman. That doesn't count, Ink. ;)
September 19, 200717 yr Department stores which only exist because their corporate headquarters is just down the street don't count either.
September 20, 200717 yr Does 9 million dollars from the city to keep another count? :wink: Absolutely. ;) Welcome to the United States of America! http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=saks+tax+break&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&q=saks+tax+incentive&btnG=Search http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&q=saks+incentive+to+stay&btnG=Search
September 20, 200717 yr No incentives for Elder-Beerman. :lol: Except the city did clear the site for the store. (and they didn't walk away like Norstrom's ;) ) It would be accurate to say that Cincinnati is the only city with downtown department stores, of course that was true before Macy's Cbus closure.
September 20, 200717 yr Department stores which only exist because their corporate headquarters is just down the street don't count either. Damn. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
September 20, 200717 yr And I would like to say that it is VERY impressive that Hamilton has kept a downtown department store (sans incentives and corporate headquarters down the street) for so long, especially AFTER the takeover from Bon-Ton. Hamilton gets super-props, ya dig? "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
September 20, 200717 yr It should also get super-props for being the ugliest downtown department store ever. :laugh: Seriously though...very impressive indeed for Hamilton, but there is really no other shopping in the area. Bridgewater Falls is very new to the scene and it will be interesting to see if that Elder-Beerman continues to be successful if some competition enters the area.
September 20, 200717 yr ^Have you ever been inside Elder-Beerman UncleRando? The main floor is pretty spectacular compared with the exterior. Oversized moldings, etc., its a neat space, a little worn, but neat. I'm not sure how it survives. As much as I hate how the Center Punch block that it was part of, it has proved much more sustainable than many other 60's urban renewal projects.
September 20, 200717 yr I've been inside a couple of times...and yes the interior is nice. But the exterior could very well scare you off...it definitely is not a fair representation of what the place has to offer.
September 21, 200717 yr A new facade can be done relatively inexpensively (see 5/3 building on FS). Some new re-cladding could do that building wonders.
September 21, 200717 yr Absolutely, I just have a feeling that it would take a city subsidy to get that accomplished.
September 24, 200717 yr Absolutely, I just have a feeling that it would take a city subsidy to get that accomplished. Would that be so bad? It seems a downtown department store in a small city is a BIG economic piece.
September 24, 200717 yr Absolutely, I just have a feeling that it would take a city subsidy to get that accomplished. Would that be so bad? It seems a downtown department store in a small city is a BIG economic piece. Not at all. I've always thought the city should be more proactive in improving downtown facades, especially the removal of cladding. I'm just not confident that council would be willing to commit funds to such a project right now. The pool issue has put council's spending in the public eye and the new facade program isn't anywhere in the ballpark of doing something on Elder-Beerman's massive facade. Improving the facade might have an effect on the quality of whatever happens at Second and High; maybe they could couple that with the economic argument to get it done.
October 15, 200717 yr Macy's impresses its L.A. customers BY JOHN ECKBERG | CINCINNATI ENQUIRER October 15, 2007 CINCINNATI - Maybe it's all those hip store associates dressed in black that led Macy's shoppers in Los Angeles to give top marks in customer satisfaction to the Cincinnati-based retailer. The 2007 Department Store Experience Study from J.D. Power and Associates released last week found that Macy's led all other mid-tier department stores - J.C. Penney and Kohl's among them - as a top choice for shopping on the west coast but came in last place for customer satisfaction in greater New York City. ...
November 30, 200717 yr Things really clicking for Macy's online BY LISA BIANK FASIG | CINCINNATI BUSINESS COURIER November 30, 2007 CINCINNATI - The star at Macy's Inc. these days isn't on Main Street, it's on an intersection in cyberspace. As the retailer girds for what it projects to be declining Christmas sales, its online business will finish 2007 as Macy's strongest performer, likely beating national online trends. Sales at Macys.com are on track to reach $1 billion in 2008, compared with $620 million in 2006. Macy's total sales, meanwhile, are expected to decline in 2007, to about $26.5 billion from almost $27 billion in 2006. If it maintains its growth rate, revenue from Macys.com would advance by 31 percent this year, to represent 3.1 percent of total sales. ...
January 14, 200817 yr Macy's eliminates jobs up north January 14, 2008 | CINCINNATI BUSINESS COURIER CINCINNATI - Macy's Inc. will cut 271 jobs from its store and corporate operations in its Minneapolis, Chicago and Detroit markets, as it looks to improve profits. The retailer said in a statement that it will eliminate positions in alterations, foods, finance, marketing and visual at both its stores and at its Macy's North headquarters in Minneapolis. The cuts will not include sales associates. The reductions account for 1.5 percent of Macy's North work force and will take place in March. ...
January 18, 200817 yr So what is it they actually do in Cincinnati? Macys.com expands offices BY JOHN ECKBERG | CINCINNATI ENQUIRER January 18, 2008 CINCINNATI - Macys.com, the fastest growing division at the Cincinnati-based retail giant, has outgrown its administration offices in San Francisco and is moving into a building there that is more than four times larger than its existing space. Macys.com has leased 70,000 square feet of office space in San Francisco’s South Financial District – up from the 16,000 square feet the division currently occupies. ... expected to open in the spring of 2008 in Goodyear, Ariz ... Online operations are run out of the San Francisco center while merchandising and other retail functions like marketing occur in the company’s New York offices, Sluzewski said.
January 18, 200817 yr Lots of accountants work downtown. There's nothing wrong with accountants, but it would be nice if they placed some of their creative class workers in the Cincinnati region.
January 19, 200817 yr Some do. I've met them, too. Mostly marketing types. Even when Cincy still had a decent sized apparel/textile industry twenty plus years ago. They all had their 'creative class' workers in NYC. That is where it all happened. Cincy had the back office folks and maybe a couple creative types but you 'had' to be in NY. Interestingly that used to be the case in a lot more industries than it is now and yet NY has done pretty well over the last ten years.
February 7, 200817 yr Macy's to cut 2,300 jobs Management being consolidated By Lisa Cornwell The Associated Press February 7, 2008 CINCINNATI Macy's Inc. said Wednesday that it will cut about 2,300 management jobs as the department store operator consolidates three regional divisions and decentralizes buying in a bid to reduce costs and boost sales. http://www.sun-sentinel.com/business/sfl-flzmacys0207sbfeb07,0,6798655.story
February 7, 200817 yr Macy's regroups, will cut jobs Fashion changes to be targeted geographically BY JOHN ECKBERG | CINCINNATI ENQUIRER February 7, 2008 CINCINNATI - Rocked by weak holiday sales and facing a critical spring 2008 fashion season, Macy's Inc. on Wednesday moved to turn around its slumping share price by announcing layoffs of up to 2,300 employees, eliminating three divisions and creating a new district management structure. "When you have to come out and be at a division that is no longer going to exist, it's never easy," said Terry J. Lundgren, chief executive of the Cincinnati-based retail giant and architect of the new initiative. "I really dislike this part of the job. But it's the reality of the business. If it was just a consolidation, well, I'd say we've done that and been there. This is something quite different." ... [glow=yellow,2,300]Called "My Macy's," the localization initiative creates 20 districts of about 10 stores each. Cincinnati will be the base for one district that could bring up to 40 jobs here.[/glow] ...
February 7, 200817 yr With the recent closing of the 3 local stores here, I wonder what else they'll cut?
February 8, 200817 yr My honest opinion is Macy's should close every damn store! Of course it is ... it's in Cincinnati. ;)
February 8, 200817 yr My honest opinion is Macy's should close every damn store! Of course it is ... it's in Cincinnati. ;) No dear...Macy's stores are nationwide. My opinion has nothing to do with the location of the HQ. I just think Macy's is a mismanaged company!!
February 8, 200817 yr My honest opinion is Macy's should close every damn store! Of course it is ... it's in Cincinnati. ;) No dear...Macy's stores are nationwide. My opinion has nothing to do with the location of the HQ. I just think Macy's is a mismanaged company!! My wink was a sign. ;)
February 8, 200817 yr Is it me, or did Macy's underestimate the effects of their decision to take over soo many locally-loved department stores? Maybe they would be doing better if they converted some of them to Bloomingdales instead.
February 8, 200817 yr Well, they clearly didn't know what they were getting into. It was originally their intention to quit with the whole coupon deal and near-constant sales, which are more confounding and confusing to the customers, with all the exclusions and restrictions, than they are favorable. But when they quit them, sales plummeted. They brought them back and sales went up, but really, who is doing a booming business right now? Xmas was off by most measures everywhere from what I've learned, and I don't think Macy's is doing any better or worse than any other store at the present. I just think it's a sign of the current economic times everywhere.
February 8, 200817 yr Not booming by any stretch but some are up slightly from a year ago: Cosco +7.0% Wal-Mart +0.5% Target -1.1% JC Penny -1.9% Nordstorm -6.6% Macy's -7.1% Limited -8.0%
February 8, 200817 yr Xmas was off by most measures everywhere from what I've learned, and I don't think Macy's is doing any better or worse than any other store at the present. I just think it's a sign of the current economic times everywhere. You kids - especially you chic Cinci shoppers - can help Macy's bottome line with your Economic Stimulus checks!
February 8, 200817 yr Their big problem is that all of Chicago is pissed at them. Also people are moving down market with the poor economic picture. As a lot of people said when they bought May, May had lots of really craptastic stores in the mix. They needed a lot of work. Macy's had done pretty well getting its places up to snuff and separating it from the competition, but swallowing May's and not closing enough stores hurt. On an unrelated aesthetic note, I think (and I'm not alone) that the clothes out there over the last couple years have had the bad mix of not looking very good or interesting and being of poorer quality. Nothing has any heft to it anymore. See the closing of most American apparel manufacturing. I buy less clothes than I used and the lack of a quality difference means I am as likely to shop at Target or Kohl's as Macy's.
February 8, 200817 yr I think it is absolutely amazing how much of Macy's merchandise is made in China. The only thing I've seen there that's made in the US is the Fiestaware dishes. I'm sure this is the case at other stores but I have been a regular shopper at this chain back from the O'Neill's days and then Robinsons-May when I lived in LA, and then Kaufmann's when I got home, and I agree, it's harder and harder to find clothes there that I like. I don't really think the buyers are doing a very good job.
February 8, 200817 yr Their big problem is that all of Chicago is pissed at them. Also people are moving down market with the poor economic picture. As a lot of people said when they bought May, May had lots of really craptastic stores in the mix. They needed a lot of work. Macy's had done pretty well getting its places up to snuff and separating it from the competition, but swallowing May's and not closing enough stores hurt. Macy's didn't recategorize the stores. so if you're local store was bad - in terms of merchandise - it's now a bad Macy's. On an unrelated aesthetic note, I think (and I'm not alone) that the clothes out there over the last couple years have had the bad mix of not looking very good or interesting and being of poorer quality. Nothing has any heft to it anymore. See the closing of most American apparel manufacturing. I buy less clothes than I used and the lack of a quality difference means I am as likely to shop at Target or Kohl's as Macy's. I disagree. But I guess that depends on where you shop and what you're buying.
February 9, 200817 yr My honest opinion is Macy's should close every damn store! Of course it is ... it's in Cincinnati. ;) No dear...Macy's stores are nationwide. My opinion has nothing to do with the location of the HQ. I just think Macy's is a mismanaged company!! They just re-engineered their management structure and you're saying they're a mismanaged company!
February 9, 200817 yr They just re-engineered their management structure and you're saying they're a mismanaged company! Dear I'm speaking about PRIOR to those announcements. In addition, the management changes have yet to be analyzed. I doubt there will be any change as long as Terry Lundgren is CEO.
February 9, 200817 yr I love Macy's. I hate Dillards. Macy's is so much better. I was just in there today, thinking about pulling a Winona Rider and snatching all the Cremieux and Murano stuff. I can't believe Donald Trump, the man with the worst comb-over in history, has his own line.
February 9, 200817 yr I love Macy's. I hate Dillards. Macy's is so much better. I was just in there today, thinking about pulling a Winona Rider and snatching all the Cremieux and Murano stuff. I can't believe Donald Trump, the man with the worst comb-over in history, has his own line. Trump, Jessica Simpson. humph! Its all crap. Another reason to avoid Macy's. When products in Trump's line are among Macy's overall top sellers in their category, its a crime. Yes, TOP SELLERS.
February 9, 200817 yr I love Macy's. I hate Dillards. Macy's is so much better. I was just in there today, thinking about pulling a Winona Rider and snatching all the Cremieux and Murano stuff. I can't believe Donald Trump, the man with the worst comb-over in history, has his own line. Trump, Jessica Simpson. humph! Its all crap. Another reason to avoid Macy's. When products in Trump's line are among Macy's overall top sellers in their category, its a crime. Yes, TOP SELLERS. You don't think this has anything to do with Trump's ingenious way of selling an idea or product? I'm just playing devil's advocate here ...
February 9, 200817 yr Trump wouldn't be sh!t without inheriting the wealth of his father. That's probably the only reason he got into Wharton too.
February 9, 200817 yr You don't think this has anything to do with Trump's ingenious way of selling an idea or product? I'm just playing devil's advocate here ... The man has "selling" power. His branks portfolio widened and the TV shop does nothing but pimp him and his products. On that - I'm not hating. I would do the same thing! My personal opinion is the items in Macy's are crap!
May 2, 200817 yr City doesn't make Macy's new cart Regional merchandising office to be in Pittsburgh BY LISA BIANK FASIG | CINCINNATI BUSINESS COURIER May 2, 2008 CINCINNATI - Macy's Inc. has opted against establishing one of four regional merchandising offices in its hometown of Cincinnati, choosing instead to locate the operation in Pittsburgh because that city is more centrally located. The regional offices are part of a companywide reorganization announced in February, when Macy's, a chain of 850 stores, said it would close and consolidate three of its seven major divisions and cut 2,300 positions. The move means Macy's will close divisional headquarters in St. Louis, Minneapolis and Seattle. At the same time, Macy's said it would create four regional merchandising offices, each of which would oversee roughly five districts of 10 stores, or 50 stores each. ...
May 2, 200817 yr My personal opinion is the items in Macy's are crap! I know this is old, but it's so nice to see I'm not the only one that thinks this. A LOT of people here miss Kaufmann's. And look at the revolt of the loss of Field's in Chicago.
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