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I’m referring more to the NE Ohio area.  It does seem like one ethnic group will avoid areas where rivals are predominant, all other things being equal.

 

So was I. Russians are who leaving Russia because of, among other things, Putin's overreach into Ukraine probably don't have a problem with Ukrainians. Having been to Ukraine twice and knowing Russians and Ukrainians, most don't consider the other as rivals -- especially those with open minds and open arms. Those are the Russians who are more willing to emigrate from Russia now because they're pissed off at Putin. Besides, even in the cases where someone is leaving Russia more for economic reasons than political ones, Greater Cleveland's Russian and Ukrainian communities are geographically not near each other. Russians predominantly settled in the eastern Heights with Strongsville being the exception; Ukrainians settled mostly in Parma in nearby areas. But you will find of one group living near near the other. There are no clear-cut lines.

 

FYI: outside of New York, Chicago and Miami, Cleveland has one of the largest Russian and Belorussian communities in the USA. Their relatives and friends, their businesses, their churches, etc. are all here. The INS loves when new immigrants move to where a support structure already exists so the immigrant doesn't burden public support services.

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fwiw beachwood is #7 in the usa for percentage of russian ancestry living in the community 16.8%

 

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something to shoot for, when cleveland was at its 1950s population peak era immigration was running at 15%, today it's 5%.

good news its it bottomed out in 1990 at around 3% and has been stable to slightly rising since. the current rate for the usa as a whole is 13%ish.

With Russian emigration spiking and Greater Cleveland having the support systems for them, this is a tremendous opportunity for Greater Cleveland to attract some of them here. What are Cleveland's immigration advocates doing to make more information available to those seeking it? Maybe we should have information reps at East Coast airports just as, 100 years ago, major Cleveland industries had reps on East Coast docks to greet people as they stepped off the boat, helped them through customs and put them on trains to Cleveland. OK, half-kidding there....

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With Russian emigration spiking and Greater Cleveland having the support systems for them, this is a tremendous opportunity for Greater Cleveland to attract some of them here. What are Cleveland's immigration advocates doing to make more information available to those seeking it? Maybe we should have information reps at East Coast airports just as, 100 years ago, major Cleveland industries had reps on East Coast docks to greet people as they stepped off the boat, helped them through customs and put them on trains to Cleveland. OK, half-kidding there....

 

I've had the same thought with Ukrainians.  With the Cleveland metro's strong Ukrainian presence and having Global Cleveland, has there been an extensive reach out to that part of the world?

Big problem with Russians or Ukrainians is our immigration controls are so restrictive that few can get into the USA. Hell, they can't even get a visa to come to the USA to visit. US Customs is worried that if they come to visit, they will stay illegally and be a drain on public services here. We need to relax our requirements for Russians and especially Ukrainians seeking to come to America to escape the troubles there, without having to declare themselves as refugees. Or perhaps they can but declare such upon arrival in the USA if they can document they have a job waiting for them (and thus receive a work permit immediately) or they have a family member or friend who is willing to support them here for at least one year until they can get a work permit. Right now, none of this is possible.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

There are countless immigrants which we would have to relax requirements for if we did so for Russians and Ukranians

There are countless immigrants which we would have to relax requirements for if we did so for Russians and Ukranians

 

Yes, but my friends in war-torn areas are limited to those in Ukraine. So the rest don't matter to me! :)

 

BTW, the biggest thing preventing Ukrainians from being able to travel to USA without visas is that their passports lack biometrics. Ukraine has been wanting to upgrade their passports but hasn't been able to afford it. Their parliament supposedly budgeted funds to upgrade them, but I question whether this will stay in the budget considering that military needs are more pressing. I am trying to find a legal way to get my friends out of Ukraine.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Amazing how many people still think this is the best country to settle down. Hope you can get your friends out.

I want them here because they're my friends. But they're also interested in the UK, Australia and Canada all of are attracting more immigrants than is the U.S.

 

BTW: I advised them against moving to Germany even though their economy is the best in Europe (they protect their industries from free trade). The reason I advised against it is, while waiting for connecting flights in Frankfurt, Munich and Dusseldorf to/from Eastern Europe, I've seen German passengers and Lufthansa employees treat Ukrainians pretty badly.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

But they're also interested in the UK, Australia and Canada all of are attracting more immigrants than is the U.S.

 

 

i hope you meant ukraine in particular for some reason and not immigration in general because in that case it could not be further from the truth. the usa has only 5% of the world population but attracts 20% of its immigrants or a half million immigrants per year. thats more than double canada and australia, which attract 200k-ish. since a lull between the 1960s-80s, the foreign born population of the usa has took off again and grown to match that of the foreign born usa population of the great european migrations of 1860s-1920s. there are more than 40m foreign born in the usa today. thats more all the people and seals in canada and double australia's population. so the usa is doing just fine by immigration.

Yes, for Ukrainians.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Amazing how many people still think this is the best country to settle down.

 

Which countries are better?

well even for ukrainians in particular the usa is no slouch as an immigrant magnet. the usa has the 3rd most ukrainians outside the ukraine itself, behind only russia and canada, at around 1m total. there were around 2.5m immigrants from ukraine since the fall of the soviet union and the usa absorbed a solid 2.5k or 10% of them, which is no small thing given that relatively distant area of the world.

 

its interesting where the ukrainian immigrant groups live in the usa too. it appears they mostly live in small western towns in canada. in the usa they live all over and yes cleveland certainly makes an appearance on the list:

 

According to the 2000 U.S. census, the metropolitan areas with the largest numbers of Ukrainian Americans are: New York City with 160,000 Ukrainians, Philadelphia with 60,000 Ukrainians, Chicago with 46,000 Ukrainians, Los Angeles with 34,000, Detroit with 33,000 Ukrainians, Cleveland with 26,000 and Indianapolis with 19,000.

 

who knows what the numbers are lately with the crisis, but it would certainly be worth making local political efforts to smooth the way for more to come over in ne ohio where they would be as comfortable as possible being there is a well established community. syria is another big troubled spot who's immigrants would be a good fit as well.

 

Amazing how many people still think this is the best country to settle down.

 

Which countries are better?

 

 

that's easy to answer -- apparently none. the usa has by far the most foreign born of any country in the world, with russia in at second. there are roughly 250m immigrants or foreign born around the world and 50m live in the usa (and in case you are wondering mexican immigrants are around 13m of that total).

 

you can play around with any country and the countries of origin of their immigrants here -- beware its addicting!

http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/09/02/global-migrant-stocks/

well even for ukrainians in particular the usa is no slouch as an immigrant magnet. the usa has the 3rd most ukrainians outside the ukraine itself, behind only russia and canada, at around 1m total. there were around 2.5m immigrants from ukraine since the fall of the soviet union and the usa absorbed a solid 2.5k or 10% of them, which is no small thing given that relatively distant area of the world.

 

its interesting where the ukrainian immigrant groups live in the usa too. it appears they mostly live in small western towns in canada. in the usa they live all over and yes cleveland certainly makes an appearance on the list:

 

According to the 2000 U.S. census, the metropolitan areas with the largest numbers of Ukrainian Americans are: New York City with 160,000 Ukrainians, Philadelphia with 60,000 Ukrainians, Chicago with 46,000 Ukrainians, Los Angeles with 34,000, Detroit with 33,000 Ukrainians, Cleveland with 26,000 and Indianapolis with 19,000.

 

who knows what the numbers are lately with the crisis, but it would certainly be worth making local political efforts to smooth the way for more to come over in ne ohio where they would be as comfortable as possible being there is a well established community. syria is another big troubled spot who's immigrants would be a good fit as well.

 

 

Completely agree.  Hopefully, NE Ohio has the organizations and locals to make this happen. 

 

Here is a list of these possible organizations in NEO: http://www.globalcleveland.org/directory/15-refugee

 

I wonder if the Ukrainian churches in Parma are connected to other entities as well.

I wonder if the Ukrainian churches in Parma are connected to other entities as well.

 

I've considered contacting them to see what they can do to help. My closest friend is a sales manager and can help local companies in Cleveland sell their products to the many Ukrainians, Belorussians and Russians in Cleveland.

 

EDIT: If someone is willing to sponsor her work visa and hire her as a salesperson, let me know via PM. She can strengthen your sales force!

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Amazing how many people still think this is the best country to settle down.

 

Which countries are better?

 

 

that's easy to answer -- apparently none. the usa has by far the most foreign born of any country in the world, with russia in at second. there are roughly 250m immigrants or foreign born around the world and 50m live in the usa (and in case you are wondering mexican immigrants are around 13m of that total).

 

you can play around with any country and the countries of origin of their immigrants here -- beware its addicting!

http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/09/02/global-migrant-stocks/

 

Does someone born in Ukraine or Kazakhstan while it was still part of the Soviet Union count as "foreign born" in Russia?  If so, that would inflate their number.

 

Edit:  Yep, and it sure does.

Here's where the people whose roots were planted in the previous great wave of immigration (S & E Europe) live today.

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Here's where the people whose roots were planted in the previous great wave of immigration (S & E Europe) live today.

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Is that red spot in North Dakota from one of the insular communities, or is that Bakken?

Is that red spot in North Dakota from one of the insular communities, or is that Bakken?

 

Bakken is too new for this map. Not sure what that is. The red along the northern Minnesota/Wisconsin/Upper Peninsula of Michigan is probably for the Mesabi ore range which developed 100 years ago when the steel centers of the lower Great Lakes and Appalachia kicked into high gear.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Is that red spot in North Dakota from one of the insular communities, or is that Bakken?

 

Bakken is too new for this map. Not sure what that is. The red along the northern Minnesota/Wisconsin/Upper Peninsula of Michigan is probably for the Mesabi ore range which developed 100 years ago when the steel centers of the lower Great Lakes and Appalachia kicked into high gear.

 

Might be Ukrainian, there were several communities out there a hundred years ago.

What was going on in Nebraska?

What was going on in Nebraska?

 

The state's about 10% Czech overall, and Omaha had a rather large ethnic population working in the stockyards.

Remember, it's just percentages.  That dot in North Dakota just represents one Italian family moving into the area. 8-)

Remember, it's just percentages.  That dot in North Dakota just represents one Italian family moving into the area. 8-)

 

So what you're telling me is all the good Italian and Greek food I am so use to here in Youngstown will be hard to find in North Dakota?  :-)

 

So what you're telling me is all the good Italian and Greek food I am so use to here in Youngstown will be hard to find in North Dakota?  :-)

 

I think that's a fair assumption.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Remember, it's just percentages.  That dot in North Dakota just represents one Italian family moving into the area. 8-)

 

So what you're telling me is all the good Italian and Greek food I am so use to here in Youngstown will be hard to find in North Dakota?  :-)

 

You can probably find it in the Williston area, for now.

What countries count as "Southern and Eastern Europe" and how much ancestry (%) is needed to qualify?

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

 

"@ImmigrantInc: To build a winning LOCAL team, you have to willing to build a GLOBAL team.  The Cavs know this. #Mozgov #Delly... http://t.co/etzFo8tzkH"

 

And to that Tristan - Canadia and Varejao - Brasilia

 

 

 

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Dream Neighborhood aims to weave refugee housing into West Side neighborhoods

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Kat Oberst Ledger and her husband, Art, recall when West 48thStreet teemed with drug dealers and sounds of gunfire peppered the night. Now their street, near the intersection of Cleveland's Stockyards and Clark-Fulton neighborhoods, is quiet at sundown. Empty houses sit, windows boarded, awaiting demolition. A hummingbird sanctuary and gardens have sprung up on vacant lots.

 

During the last decade, the Ledgers say, the neighborhood has improved. It also has emptied out, thanks to foreclosures, abandonment and urban decay. But the Ledgers could be welcoming new neighbors – hailing from places as far-flung as Bhutan, Somalia and Ukraine – over the next few years,

 

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2015/07/dream_neighborhood_aims_to_wea.html#incart_river_mobileshort

 

 

Dream Neighborhood aims to weave refugee housing into West Side neighborhoods

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Kat Oberst Ledger and her husband, Art, recall when West 48thStreet teemed with drug dealers and sounds of gunfire peppered the night. Now their street, near the intersection of Cleveland's Stockyards and Clark-Fulton neighborhoods, is quiet at sundown. Empty houses sit, windows boarded, awaiting demolition. A hummingbird sanctuary and gardens have sprung up on vacant lots.

 

During the last decade, the Ledgers say, the neighborhood has improved. It also has emptied out, thanks to foreclosures, abandonment and urban decay. But the Ledgers could be welcoming new neighbors – hailing from places as far-flung as Bhutan, Somalia and Ukraine – over the next few years,

 

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2015/07/dream_neighborhood_aims_to_wea.html#incart_river_mobileshort

 

 

 

I've also posted frames from and links to the presentation at:

 

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,29115.msg764226.html#msg764226

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

that's a well laid out start and its good to hear the mayor is finally on board with encouraging immigration

Fun fact: Toronto has a higher proportion of foreign-born residents (49% in 2011) than New York City has *ever* had http://t.co/nsvmd8mS8R

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Fun fact: Toronto has a higher proportion of foreign-born residents (49% in 2011) than New York City has *ever* had http://t.co/nsvmd8mS8R

 

It draws from a domestic population of 35 million rather than 320 million of course.

 

How many are US born?

It draws from a domestic population of 35 million rather than 320 million of course.

 

Huh?

 

BTW, they are also referring to NYC's share of its population in its history. But I'm sure the population of New York in the 1600s was more than 50 percent foreign born -- although there's no census data to prove that.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

It draws from a domestic population of 35 million rather than 320 million of course.

 

Huh?

 

BTW, they are also referring to NYC's share of its population in its history. But I'm sure the population of New York in the 1600s was more than 50 percent foreign born -- although there's no census data to prove that.

 

Metro Toronto has 6 million people, that's 17% of the population of Canada.  It stands to reason that they would have a heavy foreign born percentage.

 

Statistics are easy to play with.  Remember when it turned out Russia had such a high foreign born percentage.....mostly people born in the former Soviet republics.  Twain was right about statistics, they must be fully understood to mean anything.

Metro Toronto has 6 million people, that's 17% of the population of Canada.  It stands to reason that they would have a heavy foreign born percentage.

 

Why? What is the percent of foreign born population in other Canadian cities? Is it higher than the average for major US cities?

 

Fact is, Canadian cities are aided more by a "globalization" policy that's more pro-immigration than the USA's -- and by Canada cozying up to China for new investment.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Metro Toronto has 6 million people, that's 17% of the population of Canada.  It stands to reason that they would have a heavy foreign born percentage.

 

Why? What is the percent of foreign born population in other Canadian cities? Is it higher than the average for major US cities?

 

Fact is, Canadian cities are aided more by a "globalization" policy that's more pro-immigration than the USA's -- and by Canada cozying up to China for new investment.

 

Montreal's a special case because of the French factor.  It has about 3.5 million people, so combined with metro Toronto we're up to 9 million or so.  That's 25% of the Canadian population.

 

Vancouver has about 2 million but it's a Pacific rim city so it stands to reason it's about half Asian ancestry.  Calgary's the only other city over a million.

^Why is the percentage of the country's population located in these cities relevant to their foreign born percentage? 

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Metro Toronto has 6 million people, that's 17% of the population of Canada.  It stands to reason that they would have a heavy foreign born percentage.

 

Why? What is the percent of foreign born population in other Canadian cities? Is it higher than the average for major US cities?

 

Fact is, Canadian cities are aided more by a "globalization" policy that's more pro-immigration than the USA's -- and by Canada cozying up to China for new investment.

 

Correct. I just moved back from Toronto to the states, and I will say it feels way more diverse than anything in this country. I heard more languages in Toronto and found more real ethnic enclaves than in any American city today. Los Angeles and New York City are the closest, but they seem to have far less recent immigration. The reasons are simple- restrictive immigration policy in the United States and weak job markets in both New York and Los Angeles. Our best job markets are in Texas, Seattle (Cascadia), and the Bay (still a flow of 1% immigrants, but overall declining racial, religious, and social diversity). Our two most diverse cities are not likely to sustain their diversity. Toronto's economy is still attracting a hell of a lot of people from all over the globe, at least partially due to its lower cost of living. You can still get a small studio for $1200 a month in the urban core of Toronto. That'd cost me $3000-$4000 a month in San Francisco or $2000-$3000 a month in New York City. Even in an affordable city like Los Angeles, you'd struggle to find that. Hell, Toronto rents may even be down to Chicago levels now. They have been building a hell of a lot of housing up there to absorb the explosive population growth. Canada got hit in the recession similar to the United States, but it seemed to have hit Montreal and Vancouver harder than Toronto. In terms of cosmopolitan vibe, I haven't been to any city that can match what Toronto has today. It is simply remarkable. The diversity, lack of crime, and embracement of multi-culturism is not to the same level anywhere in United States. Toronto just works. I don't know if we've ever had a city that diverse and that integrated. Race didn't seem to matter as much...

 

That is the thing I miss most about Canada. :cry: I just got back to the states, and I can feel a lot more racial and class tension.

 

*Vancouver is where the Asian investment is at. Toronto's current immigration is heavily Arab, Brazilian, Indian, and Caribbean. Vancouver is starting to turn into a mini San Francisco, but the same anti-growth situation is not likely to happen there since Canadians seem more welcoming of outsiders. Vancouver is still booming, and though more expensive than other Canadian cities, it's not even close to Bay Area rents.

 

Toronto recently overtook Chicago as the largest Great Lakes city and the metro area is adding hundreds of thousands of people every year. It's one of the most dramatic population booms I've ever seen. By 2020, Toronto's skyline could start to rival New York's. I was completely floored by the amount of skyscraper construction and the pro-growth politics in that city. Yonge Street is literally starting to feel like Manhattan. I'd go as far as saying the American dream is more alive in Toronto than in the United States...

 

I got the impression that an immigrant can move to Toronto, easily find housing, start a business without much red tape, and live a comfortable middle class life. Toronto was the best place I've ever worked, and it's making me consider being a Canadian!

 

Now what can Ohio learn from this? Historically speaking, Toronto was smaller than Detroit and Cleveland. If one studies the trajectory of that city, you see one of the most successful transformations from Rust Belt city to global power center that ever happened. Toronto transitioned even better than Chicago did, hence its explosive growth for the last couple of decades. Urban planning is at the core it. An excellent heavy rail subway with short headways, an extensive light rail and streetcar network, and public access to the waterfront certainly helped fuel Toronto's boom. I was shocked how accessible the Lake Ontario waterfront had become. While the freeway is still there, they've built many skyscrapers to soften it up, and pedestrian access all over the city was world class. Urban retail also was mind-boggling. I'm thinking the tax structure in Ontario may favor brick and mortar over online retail. It seemed behind the times in all the right ways. Hell, I even saw a video store and bookstore! Nowhere in Toronto did I feel it tough to get somewhere on foot. Any type of store I needed, I could walk to with ease. It even beat San Francisco handily, and I'd consider San Francisco America's second most walkable city after New York City. The American cities on the Great Lakes have much to learn...

 

A loose immigration policy coupled with dense urban planning could be the key to stopping the bleeding in cities like Detroit, Toledo, Cleveland, Buffalo, etc. Toronto did not become a world class city by accident...

Metro Toronto has 6 million people, that's 17% of the population of Canada.  It stands to reason that they would have a heavy foreign born percentage.

 

Why? What is the percent of foreign born population in other Canadian cities? Is it higher than the average for major US cities?

 

Fact is, Canadian cities are aided more by a "globalization" policy that's more pro-immigration than the USA's -- and by Canada cozying up to China for new investment.

 

Correct. I just moved back from Toronto to the states, and I will say it feels way more diverse than anything in this country. I heard more languages in Toronto and found more real ethnic enclaves than in any American city today. Los Angeles and New York City are the closest, but they seem to have far less recent immigration. The reasons are simple- restrictive immigration policy in the United States and weak job markets in both New York and Los Angeles. Our best job markets are in Texas, Seattle (Cascadia), and the Bay (tons of one-percenter immigrants, but overall declining diversity). Our two most diverse cities are not likely to sustain their diversity. Toronto's economy is still attracting a hell of a lot of people from all over the globe, at least partially due to its lower cost of living. You can still get a small studio for $1200 a month in the urban core of Toronto. That'd cost me $3000-$4000 a month in San Francisco or $2000-$3000 a month in New York City. Even in an affordable city like Los Angeles, you'd struggle to find that. Hell, Toronto rents may even be down to Chicago levels now. They have been building a hell of a lot of housing up there to absorb the explosive population growth. Canada got hit in the recession similar to the United States, but it seemed to have hit Montreal and Vancouver harder than Toronto. In terms of cosmopolitan vibe, I haven't been to any city that can match what Toronto has today. It is simply remarkable. The diversity, lack of crime, and embracement of multi-culturism is not to the same level anywhere in United States. Toronto just works. I don't know if we've ever had a city that diverse and that integrated. Race didn't seem to matter as much...

 

That is the thing I miss most about Canada. :cry: I just got back to the states, and I can feel a lot more racial and class tension.

 

*Vancouver is where the Asian investment is at. Toronto's current immigration is heavily Arab, Brazilian, Indian, and Caribbean. Vancouver is starting to turn into a mini San Francisco, but the same anti-growth situation is not likely to happen there since Canadians seem more welcoming of outsiders. Vancouver is still booming, and though more expensive than other Canadian cities, it's not even close to Bay Area rents.

 

Toronto recently overtook Chicago as the largest Great Lakes city and the metro area is adding hundreds of thousands of people every year. It's one of the most dramatic population booms I've ever seen. By 2020, Toronto's skyline could start to rival New York's. I was completely floored by the amount of skyscraper construction and the pro-growth politics in that city. Yonge Street is literally starting to feel like Manhattan. I'd go as far as saying the American dream is more alive in Toronto than in the United States...

 

I got the impression that an immigrant can move to Toronto, easily find housing, start a business without much red tape, and live a comfortable middle class life. Toronto was the best place I've ever worked, and it's making me consider being a Canadian!

 

Now what can Ohio learn from this? Historically speaking, Toronto was smaller than Detroit and Cleveland. If one studies the trajectory of that city, you see one of the most successful transformations from Rust Belt to global power that ever happened. Toronto transitioned even better than Chicago did, hence its explosive growth for the last couple of decades. Urban planning is at the core it. An excellent heavy rail subway with short headways, an extensive light rail and streetcar network, and public access to the waterfront certainly helped fuel Toronto's boom. I was shocked how accessible the Lake Ontario waterfront had become. While the freeway is still there, they've built many skyscrapers to soften it up, and pedestrian access all over the city was world class. Urban retail also was mind-boggling. I'm thinking the tax structure in Ontario may favor brick and mortar over online retail. It seemed behind the times in all the right ways. Hell, I even saw a video store and bookstore! Nowhere in Toronto did I feel it tough to get somewhere on foot. Any type of store I needed, I could walk to with ease. It even beat San Francisco handily, and I'd consider San Francisco America's second most walkable city after New York City. The American cities on the Great Lakes have much to learn...

 

A loose immigration policy coupled with dense urban planning could be the key to stopping the bleeding in cities like Detroit, Toledo, Cleveland, Buffalo, etc. Toronto did not become a world class city by accident...

 

Nor did it compete with other Canadian cities, how much impact does that have?

I was on my way to downtown Akron earlier this week and took my usual route of exiting Route 8 on Tallmadge Ave, but before I got to Main, the road was closed due to construction and had to weave my way through the side streets off Tallmadge.  I was surprised to see what appeared to be a large immigrant population on those streets.  Appeared to be southeast Asian, but not sure.  I'm talking about the neighborhood to the southeast of the intersection of Tallmadge and Main.  Any info on this?

Census data shows that tract as 8% Asian

I don't know about the tract, but the street I drove down (I think it was Dayton) was 100% Asian, at least based on people walking down the street, sitting on their porches, playing in the front yard...

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