Posted August 12, 200816 yr Man, if this isn't a new extreme, I don't know what is: http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080812/METRO08/808120367
August 12, 200816 yr I read about this a few years ago ... maybe on here? IDK, the article title said something like: "Even the dead are leaving Detroit." Bunch of crock.
August 12, 200816 yr Has Hollywood taught us nothing? It's only a matter of time now before they jump on a boat and come across Lake Erie to eat our brains.
August 12, 200816 yr Great time to bring up this old classic. 8-) Suicidal Tendencies "waking the dead" Kept in the guard of Mother Nature's womb Resting in the safety of their tomb Sheltered by six feet of soil and rock The spade is the key with which their gate we'll unlock Why should they be resting so peacefully When we're up above in pure misery I don't care that they've already died That's not enough to make me satisfied So we wait till the stroke of the midnight hour Then we'll unleas the darkest of power Hell's gates will open a new judgment day Now is the time that the dead will pay Why should they be resting so peacefully When we're up above in pure misery I don't care that they've already died That's not enough to make me satisfied Waking the dead, waking the dead, waking the dead All rise! Hell's gates open the earth trembles and shakes Now their pardons are over they pray for their mistakes Mausoleums firebombed now rage in flames When the dead come out their bodies we'll maim Rob-Robbing their graves stealing their bones Bang-Banging our heads to their screams and their moans Fix-Fixing the wounds that even time cannot heal Soon-Soon we will know how good it feels This is not damnation or an act of God Now the dead they rise ripping through the sod Purgatory has to wait, but how can this be The dead are free-the dead are free! Waking the dead-you said that it wouldn't be Waking the dead-You said that we wouldn't see Waking the dead-Now the dead stand before our own eyes Silence is blaring the earth opens wide History repeats, reburied they die Darkness descends through nature's pores They return to their sleep on earth's basement floor Now they rest not so peacefully As they've had a taste of our misery I didn't care that they'd already died That wasn't enough to make me satisfied Return back to their tombs now they lay This is no game for the novice to play Repeat not a word lest ye be forewarned The punishment of Hell's darkness and scorn Repeat not a word of the sermon said A prayer for the dead, don't play with the dead Don't try to comprehend what's going on You can't understand, please don't understand Waking the dead-And we'll be Waking the dead-All rise now Waking the dead-We're gonna wake the dead Waking the dead I said the words what have I done I thought it cool, I thought it fun The words I say they start to change The syllables now rearranged A language I can't comprehend I shut my mouth it doesn't end The bowels of nature open wide I cannot move I cannot hide I can't believe the things I see The dead are free, the dead are free I close my eyes and pray it's not real Their presence close coldness I feel What have I done Lord please forgive Once they died, but now they live I wake the dead, I ake the dead, I wake the dead, I wake the dead! Cleanse the lepers Cast out the demons Wake the dead!
August 12, 200816 yr this whole concept would make an awesome indie fim. It could be campy and profound at the same time. no need to thank me, just give me a bit part (prefer Zombie)
August 12, 200816 yr Well they basically touched on it with 'Poltergeist' - mind you they built a sprawly cul-de-sac development over the old graves: clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
August 12, 200816 yr I got into kind of a debate on this topic over on a Detroit related website. Shall I say my opinion here?
August 12, 200816 yr Wow! this is a new low for suburbanites, the dead should never be waken. I don't think they can be waken up. "Even the dead are leaving Detroit" LOL!!!
August 12, 200816 yr I got into kind of a debate on this topic over on a Detroit related website. Shall I say my opinion here? Might as well. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
August 13, 200816 yr This has been going on for quite some time. Alot of the prominent citizens now buried at Lakeside Cemetery here in Cleveland were originally buried at Erieview, for instance. I'd bet that we would see the same thing if we looked at any city where there has been mass outmigration, meaning any city in America.
August 14, 200816 yr trends can change. Suburban living is a trend. If the trend shifts back, are they going to dig them up again and move them back to the city? I don't get it, what ever happened to "R.I.P"? I followed my parents wished as to where they were to be buried. I simply cannot imagine micro managing the departed to meet my needs. scary!
August 14, 200816 yr I followed my parents wished as to where they were to be buried. I simply cannot imagine micro managing the departed to meet my needs. scary! But these people may be following their parent's wishes as well. Okay, I'll say what I got myself into on the other forum. How do we know what decisions are made. Clearly this article focuses on a handful of people. Have you ever heard someone say, "I want to be buried close to my children." Have you also heard someone say. "I want to be buried in the city I lived my whole life in." 1. So tell me, what is it anyone's business to decide what is right or wrong Sure....the church says there is nothing wrong with this, and cemeteries have been moved for years because of encroaching development. If I put my parents in the countryside, I'd would be pissed if freeways, walmarts, and parking lots popped up all around it. I'd move them to a more appropriate location. Because I'd prefer not to visit them in this type of place. Some people believe they can connect with gone family members in more peaceful settings. 2. Saying "let them rest in peace" is assuming their soul is still alive and well in that casket. Funny thing was I found the same people posting "they are dead, why does it matter. Don't move them" 3. Let's also put all the political b.s., city versus suburbs stuff asside. People wanted to bring that into the thread, but this issue is only about the families and the decisions they made prior to that person's death. If you fear the city, that's your own problem. No one else should tell YOU what to do. Understand that there are people who go to cemeteries and spend a lot of time there. They get nervous if they are alone there too long. There was a lot of people defending the safety of cemeteries, but the facts are that crimes have happened there. You will see signs all over the place warning people to either stay in their vehicles or be vigilant. Keep in mind you are incredibly vulnerable in these vast shaded places. Not a whole lot of people around to witness a crime. And what about the elderly? They have no fighting chance. But the fact of the matter is. Moving a dead person is only wrong if you are against having your own body moved, and that was against your wishes. As far as the people in this article, we do not know what prior arrangements were made.
August 14, 200816 yr All very good points. It really doesn't matter to anyone but the people doing it. Unless prior arrangements have been made, they should do whatever makes them feel comfortable. My 84yo mother went out one day and made all her arrangements. I tell her all the time that we will do what we want when she dies. She even has her dress picked out, I tell her we're putting her in a sweatsuit. She yells, we laugh.
August 14, 200816 yr true points. you won't get me too riled up b/c I just don't care what other people do. Unless of course, it unleashes Zombies still, why bury them? Since the children are so mobile, why not move the parents them around with them?
August 17, 200816 yr That's what cremation is for. My parents have mentioned they have been thinking about that, but I'm always reminded of the scene in Meet the Parents lol. Problem is my family is Catholic, so I don't think they realize it's frowned upon.
August 19, 200816 yr Not any more Hayward. For the sake of avoiding a huge religious debate. I agree, we will end it here now.
August 19, 200816 yr For the sake of avoiding a huge religious debate. I agree, we will end it here now. I wasn't trying to start a huge (or small) religious debate! It's not frowned upon by the Roman Catholic Church. Certainly as with anything else that is legal, individuals may have their preferences, but as an entity, the Catholic church has rules and guidelines which govern cremation.
August 20, 200816 yr Maybe frowned upon wasn't the correct word, but for a very long time it was advised to use traditional burial processes. It's permissible, but as you mentioned they are specific rules and guidelines.
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