July 12, 20231 yr I question that survey. I live in South Florida, and I see a ton of people moving here from CA. This was very rare in the past. I was talking to a couple that had just moved here from San Fran. They were tired of the constant poop on the sidewalks, homelessness and having their car broken into on a daily basis. The police won't show up for any crime unless your life is threatened. The same is happening in Seattle and Portland. Crime in these cities is underreported since the police won't get involved. Clearly, if these cities were peaceful, people would not be voted with their feet and moving not just out of the city but out of the state and across the country.
July 13, 20231 yr These kind of reports are nothing more than clickbate. You can't really measure feelings or other type of subjective criteria. Ex. I always tell people who visit me from out of state that one of the reasons l live here is it's so easy. Easy to get around, affordable compared to the coastal cities my friends live in, etc. Low stress as far as l'm concerned. But my view is anecdotal. My neighbor may feel completely different. Look, Cleveland does have issues. There is a lot of poverty and our economy is not all that vibrant but most of us are doing fine. I think Cleveland has a nice combination of lifestyles. There's just enough of the things that make for a good life without the crushing crowds or over the top expense of those popular regions. Cool is not necessarily easy. There's stress in high cost of living or constant traffic.
July 15, 20231 yr congrats to avon lake and mason for ohio — STATES Mapped: The Safest Cities in the U.S. July 12, 2023 By Avery Koop more: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/safest-cities-in-the-us/ cleveland and … canton?? are the ohio opposite — STATES Mapped: The Most Dangerous Cities in the U.S. July 11, 2023 By Avery Koop more: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-us/
July 21, 20231 yr Top 10 Picks for Best Public Market Across the US Congratulations Cincinnati #6 and Columbus #7 Will be exciting to see future years when North Market has expanded on combining the old and new with more vendors/space!!
July 21, 20231 yr Top 10 Picks for Best Public Market Across the US Congratulations Cincinnati #6 and Columbus #7 Will be exciting to see future years when North Market has expanded on combining the old and new with more vendors/space!!Part of me can't believe the west side market didn't make it, the other part isn't surprised. Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk
July 21, 20231 yr Just now, MyPhoneDead said: Part of me can't believe the west side market didn't make it, the other part isn't surprised. Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Yeah - this list is automatically DQ'd
July 21, 20231 yr Yeah - this list is automatically DQ'd[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]. I just wonder if the vendor issue and lack of renovations caused us to not make it. Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk
July 21, 20231 yr ^ Of course it did. The Market has been on a steady decline for awhile now. It started with the city not addressing vendor issues and continued with a lack of investment in maintenance and some necessary upgrades. Added to that was some generalization vendor turnover and you have a recipe for decline. Right now the Market is at a crossroads. The city administration finally seems to have come to the conclusion that the Market may be better run if it was managed by an organization that actually understands how to best manage it as a unique asset and not just as another city department. At this point we can only hope it's not too late.
July 21, 20231 yr 9 minutes ago, cadmen said: ^ Of course it did. The Market has been on a steady decline for awhile now. It started with the city not addressing vendor issues and continued with a lack of investment in maintenance and some necessary upgrades. Added to that was some generalization vendor turnover and you have a recipe for decline. Right now the Market is at a crossroads. The city administration finally seems to have come to the conclusion that the Market may be better run if it was managed by an organization that actually understands how to best manage it as a unique asset and not just as another city department. At this point we can only hope it's not too late. Certainly USA Today 10 Best has their finger on the pulse of civic mismanagement issues at the West Side Market. How can the West Side Market compete with places like Budd Dairy that have upwards of 8 vendors and venerable food purveyors like Cluck Norris? IMHO Bibb should resign from office until the market can be put back in the good graces of the esteemed editorial board at USA Today 10 Best. This is a dark day for the West Side Market and indeed the entire 7 county Combined Statistical Area.
July 21, 20231 yr Architecturally I love the West Side Market, but architecture alone won't get you on a positive list. It sounds like from previous complaints/posters that its severely mismanaged and should be handed over to a team that knows what they're doing. I've been a handful a times, but it's been a long time, is the foot traffic in that area of town busy? Columbus' situation is unique right now. Between Budd Dairy, the new East Market and the North Market and future expansion, the food hall/market scene in this city is thriving and robust. We like to go over to East Market on Sundays and work our way back downtown for a little Sunday funday, usually stopping for a nice stroll through the Topiary Park. As for Cincinnati, I feel like with the ever evolving OTR, Findlay Market continues to feed off of that and stay alive. I really enjoy how much outdoor vendor space there is surrounding the buildings perimeter. Each city and respective markets are different in their own unique ways, but I'm just glad each of our cities has one to go to!! The company I work for is out of Philly, and I usually visit once or twice a year, and each time I make a point to go to Reading Terminal Market, it blows any of ours out of the water IMO, it's huge and always bustling when I go!! Edited July 21, 20231 yr by Gnoraa
July 21, 20231 yr DC Union Market isn’t on the list either, which is stellar. It’s a bit of a food hall/market mashup at this point but that is where West Side Market wants to go, too. I don’t think it’s too late for WSM to reach it’s full potential.
July 22, 20231 yr On 7/21/2023 at 11:26 AM, bumsquare said: Certainly USA Today 10 Best has their finger on the pulse of civic mismanagement issues at the West Side Market. How can the West Side Market compete with places like Budd Dairy that have upwards of 8 vendors and venerable food purveyors like Cluck Norris? IMHO Bibb should resign from office until the market can be put back in the good graces of the esteemed editorial board at USA Today 10 Best. This is a dark day for the West Side Market and indeed the entire 7 county Combined Statistical Area. Public Markets and Food Halls were different categories. So, West Side Market was competing against North Market, not Budd Dairy.
July 28, 20231 yr https://www.cleveland.com/news/2023/07/two-ohio-cities-named-top-100-best-places-to-live-in-us.html Little did Ohioans know that the real gem of the state is found in North East Ohio. Parma, OH was ranked 35th in the best places to live in the country. That’s right Parma, OH 😂 I mean it’s not awful but seriously haha.
July 31, 20231 yr The U.S. cities the most people have moved out of since Jan 2023 according to USPS: 7. Dallas, TX 6. Miami 5. Austin, TX 4. New York City 3. Los Angeles 2. Chicago 1. Houston, TX "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 10, 20231 yr your current top ten list — cle in at #10: REVEALED: The ten most dangerous cities in the US ranked - and the worst will surprise you By Laura Parnaby For Dailymail.Com 08:11 EDT 09 Sep 2023 more: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12438169/The-ten-dangerous-cities-ranked-worst-surprise-you.html
September 10, 20231 yr 41 minutes ago, mrnyc said: your current top ten list — cle in at #10: REVEALED: The ten most dangerous cities in the US ranked - and the worst will surprise you By Laura Parnaby For Dailymail.Com 08:11 EDT 09 Sep 2023 more: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12438169/The-ten-dangerous-cities-ranked-worst-surprise-you.html Cleveland is described as the “Lake Eire Bay city” ……get that weak stuff outta here.
December 20, 20231 yr mason ohio makes forbes safest small towns in the usa list — by state & between 30-100k people. makes sense as it empty 3/4 of the year when kings island is closed: These are the safest small towns and cities in every state: report BY ALIX MARTICHOUX - 12/19/23 more: https://thehill.com/homenews/nexstar_media_wire/4366427-these-are-the-safest-small-towns-and-cities-in-every-state-report/
December 31, 20231 yr I saw this and thought of this thread. I didn't explore the links. Maybe the same info is available for other metros? People from these metros are looking to buy homes in Youngstown #10. CINCINNATI, OHIO #9. CANTON, OHIO #8. SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA #7. SALEM, OHIO #6. COLUMBUS, OHIO #5. AKRON, OHIO #4. WASHINGTON, WASHINGTON D.C. #3. CLEVELAND, OHIO #2. PITTSBURGH, PENNSYLVANIA #1. NEW YORK, NEW YORK https://www.mahoningmatters.com/news/local/article281657363.html?fbclid=IwAR2z7AgBoa4HbxXUbKbZJYPuoaLM0PLfNcKM9MghWiAVh3J4Xj0w2EvTrRk
January 2, 20241 yr On 12/31/2023 at 12:37 PM, JRC said: I saw this and thought of this thread. I didn't explore the links. Maybe the same info is available for other metros? People from these metros are looking to buy homes in Youngstown #10. CINCINNATI, OHIO #9. CANTON, OHIO #8. SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA #7. SALEM, OHIO #6. COLUMBUS, OHIO #5. AKRON, OHIO #4. WASHINGTON, WASHINGTON D.C. #3. CLEVELAND, OHIO #2. PITTSBURGH, PENNSYLVANIA #1. NEW YORK, NEW YORK https://www.mahoningmatters.com/news/local/article281657363.html?fbclid=IwAR2z7AgBoa4HbxXUbKbZJYPuoaLM0PLfNcKM9MghWiAVh3J4Xj0w2EvTrRk I'd be curious to know how much looking is translating into actual buying.
January 3, 20241 yr 8 hours ago, jonoh81 said: I'd be curious to know how much looking is translating into actual buying. They're just dreaming. On 12/31/2023 at 6:37 PM, JRC said: I saw this and thought of this thread. I didn't explore the links. Maybe the same info is available for other metros? People from these metros are looking to buy homes in Youngstown #10. CINCINNATI, OHIO #9. CANTON, OHIO #8. SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA #7. SALEM, OHIO #6. COLUMBUS, OHIO #5. AKRON, OHIO #4. WASHINGTON, WASHINGTON D.C. #3. CLEVELAND, OHIO #2. PITTSBURGH, PENNSYLVANIA #1. NEW YORK, NEW YORK https://www.mahoningmatters.com/news/local/article281657363.html?fbclid=IwAR2z7AgBoa4HbxXUbKbZJYPuoaLM0PLfNcKM9MghWiAVh3J4Xj0w2EvTrRk The data they're pulling this from is linked in the article. Here it is: https://www.realtor.com/research/reports/cross-market-demand/
January 6, 20241 yr For the Toledo contingent on UO, Toledo was ranked by Travel & Leisure magazine as the most affordable place to retire in the US. https://www.travelandleisure.com/toledo-ohio-is-the-most-affordable-us-city-to-retire-8418755#:~:text=Cities like Akron and Youngstown,to retire in the U.S.
January 12, 20241 yr actually all the biggest ohio cities did poorly on this list below. and i dont get it, is there really that little rental availability and high rental costs, etc.? if anything it seems like ohio cities would be one of the easier and overall better places to rent. also, quality of life ?? that’s like what, weather and crime i guess??? 2 Ohio cities among Top 5 worst places to rent in US, report says Updated: Jan. 11, 2024 … The report, “Best and Worst Places to Rent in America,” compared 182 U.S. cities across two categories: Rental market & affordability, such as share of renters, rental vacancy rate, rental affordability, rent-to-price ratio and more; and quality of life, such as weather, safety, job market, recreation-friendliness, and more. … Aside from 181st-ranking Cleveland and 178th-ranking Akron, the only two other Ohio cities included in the rankings are Cincinnati at 128th and Columbus at 129th, according to the report. more: https://www.cleveland.com/news/2024/01/2-ohio-cities-among-top-5-worst-places-to-rent-in-us-report-says.html
January 12, 20241 yr I'm guessing that they used city limits as the cutoff instead of MSA since Dayton wasn't included, but renting has absolutely become difficult in the Miami Valley. The rental market regularly hovers around 98% occupied and we (frustratingly) aren't nearly building enough new inventory despite the obvious demand. It's the same paradox that Detroit has been dealing with - too much bad inventory, and not enough good inventory has skewed the market. As much as I love Dayton, there is no universe where 1-br apartments in Moraine should be going for $1300 a month. “To an Ohio resident - wherever he lives - some other part of his state seems unreal.”
January 12, 20241 yr I think maybe these Ohio cities are the worst place to rent, because the numbers all indicate that owning is the more affordable option in most of Ohio's cities.
January 12, 20241 yr On 1/6/2024 at 12:33 PM, jeremyck01 said: For the Toledo contingent on UO, Toledo was ranked by Travel & Leisure magazine as the most affordable place to retire in the US. https://www.travelandleisure.com/toledo-ohio-is-the-most-affordable-us-city-to-retire-8418755#:~:text=Cities like Akron and Youngstown,to retire in the U.S. We've met a few retirees and those close to retirement from New York in the last two years here in Toledo - they seem happy with their decision, living in beautiful historic homes and enjoying the arts scene.
January 23, 20241 yr News article ranking walkability. https://www.cntraveller.com/article/most-walkable-cities-in-the-us-ranked Download Link for actual study. https://smartgrowthamerica.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Foot-Traffic-Ahead-2023.pdf
January 23, 20241 yr Any list that has Charlotte more "walkable" with "foot traffic" over any generic northern city is already trash. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
January 23, 20241 yr 19 minutes ago, ColDayMan said: Any list that has Charlotte more "walkable" with "foot traffic" over any generic northern city is already trash. Yeah, when compiled the results look pretty suspect. Particularly after the first 10 or so. The methodology is somewhat interesting though. It's based on the percentages of different types of developments across the metropolitan area in walkable areas. Apparently the category of for-sale housing has the lowest weighting, which may partially explain Charlotte's rating. The downtown area of Charlotte is reasonably walkable. I'm not defending their conclusions, just find it interesting to see how the sausage is made.
February 9, 20241 yr I read the report. 'Columbus' as well as 'Midwest' were only mentioned as labels in graphs, no text at all was dedicated to an entire census region.
February 22, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Ethan said: Cool map. I’m surprised to see Columbus is hitting in the green. I am excited to see if it will be top level the next time. With the code getting changed and the continued focus of building downtown, I think they might move up.
February 22, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, VintageLife said: I’m surprised to see Columbus is hitting in the green. I am excited to see if it will be top level the next time. With the code getting changed and the continued focus of building downtown, I think they might move up. Most of what this map is showing is population growth, and Columbus is growing by every metric I've seen. Code changes will certainly make a difference, but on the margins. An interesting addendum to this map would be one that shows the percentage of new builds that are more dense than single family housing.
February 22, 20241 yr 6 hours ago, Ethan said: Most of what this map is showing is population growth, and Columbus is growing by every metric I've seen. Code changes will certainly make a difference, but on the margins. An interesting addendum to this map would be one that shows the percentage of new builds that are more dense than single family housing. Yeah, I have to agree with this. Without indexing it to the total amount of new units coming online it's really a map of who's growing. Another interesting metric would be to compare the % of new builds that are apartments to the % of current housing units that are apartments- i.e., where is the overall composition of housing changing the most rapidly.
February 22, 20241 yr In 2023, new building permits in the Columbus metro were 53.41% multi-family and 46.59% single-family. 5 units or more made up 94.84% of all multi-family units. 6,110 multi-family unit permits were issued, 5795 of them being 5+ unit. Edited February 22, 20241 yr by jonoh81
February 23, 20241 yr well ok — 🐶 The Most Popular Dog Breed in Each U.S. State New England loves golden retrievers. In other states across the country, you may be surprised which dog breed comes out on top. By Rudie Obias | Feb 22, 2024 more: https://www.mentalfloss.com/posts/most-popular-dog-breeds-us-states
February 24, 20241 yr On 2/22/2024 at 10:07 AM, VintageLife said: I’m surprised to see Columbus is hitting in the green. I am excited to see if it will be top level the next time. With the code getting changed and the continued focus of building downtown, I think they might move up. ooh, they will … ! 🙀
February 25, 20241 yr On 2/22/2024 at 9:00 AM, Ethan said: Cool map. Another study regarding new apartments (based on metro areas) How to Ride the Apartment Supply Wave Figure from article - Cleveland metro has one of the highest increases in rent combined with the slowest growth of new housing units coming onto the market. Cincinnati is doing a bit better but still has one of the higher rental increases. Albeit, these are some of the cheaper markets in the country so that context should be considered. However, it still begs the question: how can these markets perform better with getting new units on the market? Columbus on the other hand is performing quite well per this study regardless of being one of the cheaper markets.
February 25, 20241 yr So we used to read that with the high costs of labor/building materials developers were unable to build here because the market wouldn't allow for higher rents. But now we are one of the higher rent cities and yet we still have limited new construction rates. There must be more to the story. What am l missing here?
February 25, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, cadmen said: So we used to read that with the high costs of labor/building materials developers were unable to build here because the market wouldn't allow for higher rents. But now we are one of the higher rent cities and yet we still have limited new construction rates. There must be more to the story. What am l missing here? This article is saying Cleveland has one of the biggest rates of increase for rentals, not that it's one of the higher rent cities. Cleveland is still one of the cheapest rental markets in respect to other large markets. My takeaway is the these increases are not driving new units to the Cleveland market like some other cities, for whatever reason; while places like Columbus are doing well.
February 26, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, Rustbelter said: This article is saying Cleveland has one of the biggest rates of increase for rentals, not that it's one of the higher rent cities. Cleveland is still one of the cheapest rental markets in respect to other large markets. My takeaway is the these increases are not driving new units to the Cleveland market like some other cities, for whatever reason; while places like Columbus are doing well. Rental increases don't drive new unit development, having demand for units that rent for enough above their costs to make a good profit margin drives new unit development. Thus Cleveland is still seeing a surprising number of high end units being built in trendy areas, but few lower end units in less trendy areas. We have a surfeit of low end units renting relatively cheaply (though it doesn't seem like it if the low end units is where you have to live!)
May 30, 20241 yr The 2024-2025 rankings are in! https://realestate.usnews.com/places/rankings/best-places-to-live-in-ohio
June 8, 20241 yr top most moved to — via pods moving: 1. Myrtle Beach, SC/Wilmington, NC 2. Ocala, FL 3. Houston, TX 4. Greenville-Spartanburg, SC 5. Charlotte, NC 6. Raleigh, NC 7. Phoenix, NC 8. Knoxville, TN 9. Jacksonville, FL 10. Asheville, NC highest move outs — 1. Los Angeles 2. Bay Area 3. South Florida 4. Long Island 5. Austin, TX 6. Central NJ 7. Chicago 8. San Diego 9. Stockton-Modesto, CA 10. Hudson Valley, NY more: https://nypost.com/2024/06/06/lifestyle/people-are-fleeing-florida-in-2024-heres-where-theyre-moving/
June 9, 20241 yr NC with five on the list of highest move-ins, including newly annexed Phoenix. Impressive! Edited June 9, 20241 yr by jam40jeff
June 9, 20241 yr 10 hours ago, jam40jeff said: NC with five on the list of highest move-ins, including newly annexed Phoenix. Impressive! Wondering what this will do in the next election. Hopefully enough blue votes to tip the scales.
June 9, 20241 yr what in the world is driving people to move to Ocala Florida. No beach, literally swamp, humid as F. Is it because of the oppotunity of endless sprawl to build your own McMansion? I feel like I've been exiled when I'm in places like Ocala.
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