February 2, 201114 yr Can someone post contact information for some of Forbes' editorial staff? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 2, 201114 yr Can someone post contact information for some of Forbes' editorial staff? Start here! http://www.forbes.com/fdc/bios/steveforbes.html HAVE AT IT KIDS!
February 2, 201114 yr Seems accurate, but on their website, they have a picture of Minneapolis under the Duluth section. Toledo and El Paso are the largest cities on there by a good margin, so I'm guessing credit card debt is more of a problem in small cities than big cities. The Most Debt-Ridden Cities 1. Wilmington, N.C. 2. Canton-Massillon, Ohio 3. Toledo, Ohio 4. Duluth, Minn. 5. El Paso, Texas 6. Asheville, N.C. 7. Pensacola-Ferry Pass-Brent, Fla. 8. Youngstown-Warren-Boardman, Ohio/Pa. 9. Fayetteville, N.C. 10. Winston-Salem, N.C. http://finance.yahoo.com/banking-budgeting/article/111979/most-debt-ridden-cities?mod=bb-creditcards
February 2, 201114 yr What's up with Ohio and North Carolina cities holding seven of the 10 spots? Is there something in those states' laws or credit reporting requirements that artificially raises them? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 2, 201114 yr Where did that picture of Duluth come from? This is a city of about 85,000 people and an MSA of about 275,000. What city's skyline is that? I recall a series of photos in another list of which Cleveland was again one of the losers and although the pictures for the other loser cities showed dramatic skylines, our picture was of some boarded up storefronts. I hate this constant media bias.
February 2, 201114 yr Where did that picture of Duluth come from? This is a city of about 85,000 people and an MSA of about 275,000. What city's skyline is that? I recall a series of photos in another list of which Cleveland was again one of the losers and although the pictures for the other loser cities showed dramatic skylines, our picture was of some boarded up storefronts. I hate this constant media bias. TMH, that was actually one of the positive lists Cleveland made it on, which was all the more ironic that they would choose to use this type of picture...
February 2, 201114 yr Is this the one you were talking about? This is an old list but I just love what Forbes does to Cleveland Look at all the other cities pictures and then look at the picture Cleveland gets. Special Treatment. http://www.forbes.com/2009/03/19/downsized-cities-population-lifestyle-real-estate-cities_slide_2.html
February 2, 201114 yr Is this the one you were talking about? This is an old list but I just love what Forbes does to Cleveland Look at all the other cities pictures and then look at the picture Cleveland gets. Special Treatment. http://www.forbes.com/2009/03/19/downsized-cities-population-lifestyle-real-estate-cities_slide_2.html Thats got to be my favorite, blatant disparity of any kind of sense.......
February 3, 201114 yr ClevelandOhio, yes, that's the one. What on earth is going on at Forbes? I think the mayor, Frank Jackson, should pursue some type of legal action. Everywhere I travel, people have such a distorted view of what living in Cleveland must be like. They think Cleveland is an empty war zone on the brink of total collapse. When I tell them unemployment is at 8.5% (less than Seattle, Denver, Cincinnati, etc.) and that we are entering 2011 with a balanced budget and no major layoffs or tax increases, they are dumbfounded.
February 3, 201114 yr ClevelandOhio, yes, that's the one. What on earth is going on at Forbes? I think the mayor, Frank Jackson, should pursue some type of legal action. Everywhere I travel, people have such a distorted view of what living in Cleveland must be like. They think Cleveland is an empty war zone on the brink of total collapse. When I tell them unemployment is at 8.5% (less than Seattle, Denver, Cincinnati, etc.) and that we are entering 2011 with a balanced budget and no major layoffs or tax increases, they are dumbfounded. Legal? Are you serious. THE PROBLEM as I've said before The forbes readers in NE Ohio say nothing, which leads me to believe their readership is at rock bottom Cleveland/Cuyahoga County/NE Ohio have no PR/Communications strategy
February 3, 201114 yr And the "Innerbelt Bridge" is the only mentioned project for Cleveland. Nevermind the Med Mart, Convention Center, Casino, Flats East Bank, Aquarium, ...
February 3, 201114 yr *Movie Preview Narrator Voice* "In a world..where perception is reality.. One man. Providing a single link. Could change the fate of an entire city..." Mazel Tov. *cheers*
February 3, 201114 yr *Movie Preview Narrator Voice* "In a world..where perception is reality.. One man. Providing a single link. Could change the fate of an entire city..." Mazel Tov. *cheers* LOL...
February 3, 201114 yr *Movie Preview Narrator Voice* "In a world..where perception is reality.. One man. Providing a single link. Could change the fate of an entire city..." Mazel Tov. *cheers*
February 3, 201114 yr heard it here first.. Cleveland is #4 on Yahoo Travels list of the worlds most visionary cities! (and the only US city on the list!) World's Most Visionary Cities To see the future, visit these forward-thinking metropolises By Joshua M. Bernstein http://travel.yahoo.com/p-interests-37533159;_ylt=AlS89c.YKp6RjSsGlLqJgcuhpYMA
February 3, 201114 yr heard it here first.. Cleveland is #4 on Yahoo Travels list of the worlds most visionary cities! (and the only US city on the list!) World's Most Visionary Cities To see the future, visit these forward-thinking metropolises By Joshua M. Bernstein http://travel.yahoo.com/p-interests-37533159;_ylt=AlS89c.YKp6RjSsGlLqJgcuhpYMA That's a Travel & Leisure advertorial. Another useless list.
February 3, 201114 yr Someone at Forbes magazine just jumped out a window. Maybe it was Forbes. Edit: What, Brazil got a mention for their BRT line but no Cleveland reference?
February 3, 201114 yr heard it here first.. Cleveland is #4 on Yahoo Travels list of the worlds most visionary cities! (and the only US city on the list!) World's Most Visionary Cities To see the future, visit these forward-thinking metropolises By Joshua M. Bernstein http://travel.yahoo.com/p-interests-37533159;_ylt=AlS89c.YKp6RjSsGlLqJgcuhpYMA That's a Travel & Leisure advertorial. Another useless list. wait a minute now.. you can't get mad at one list with negative press, saying how damaging it is (i.e. Forbes), and then take one with positive results and say its useless. be happy! :clap: send the link to your friends, relatives, and any ex-pats! :wink: :shoot: :shoot:
February 3, 201114 yr we are no longer the most miserable city, but dont get to excited, we are still pretty miserable http://www.forbes.com/2011/02/02/stockton-miami-cleveland-business-washington-miserable-cities.html
February 3, 201114 yr we are no longer the most miserable city, but dont get to excited, we are still pretty miserable http://www.forbes.com/2011/02/02/stockton-miami-cleveland-business-washington-miserable-cities.html Oh, if they polled readers of cleveland dot bomb, I can see why!! :-P "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 3, 201114 yr Every time I'm unsure of how miserable I am supposed to be, I just let Forbes tell me. I always thought I was pretty happy but it turns out I'm actually pretty miserable!
February 4, 201114 yr hey MTS, been meaning to ask if you know what movie that picture is from? I don't think it's real. It almost looks like a shot of Earnest Borgnine during an episode of Airwolf with a woman from a '70s movie photoshopped in.
February 4, 201114 yr hey MTS, been meaning to ask if you know what movie that picture is from? Honestly, I don't know.
February 4, 201114 yr Here it is 2011's most miserable cities. It's bullsh!t and dumbass but that's the point of thread. Cleveland is number 10... http://www.forbes.com/2011/02/02/stockton-miami-cleveland-business-washington-miserable-cities.html
February 4, 201114 yr Here it is 2011's most miserable cities. It's bullsh!t and dumbass but that's the point of thread. Cleveland is number 10... http://www.forbes.com/2011/02/02/stockton-miami-cleveland-business-washington-miserable-cities.html Boo....you're late to the party on this one!
February 4, 201114 yr ^ Sorry I missed it with the 18 pages of discussion on Gay Bars in Cleveland vs. Columbus.
February 4, 201114 yr ^ Sorry I missed it with the 18 pages of discussion on Gay Bars in Cleveland vs. Columbus. ROFLMAO
February 4, 201114 yr ^ Sorry I missed it with the 18 pages of discussion on Gay Bars in Cleveland vs. Columbus. ...and that Cincinnati is apparently just as "gay" as Columbus based on "amenities" BUMP!
February 4, 201114 yr ^ Sorry I missed it with the 18 pages of discussion on Gay Bars in Cleveland vs. Columbus. ...and that Cincinnati is apparently just as "gay" as Columbus based on "amenities" BUMP!
February 4, 201114 yr Lord, Michelle is sure aging more gracefully than Barack. Not a single wrinkle in that scowl. MTS, I love the pic. Who is that? Baby-sub-Thing 2-Junior? Regarding this latest Forbes piece of garbage... despite the fact that these lists are glaringly misleading, they're widely publicized and often affect the residents of the cities that have been attacked. I think it's important to note the shift that occured between this "Miserable Cities" ranking and those prior. It seems that popular culture has latched onto what we've known for quite some time...California and Florida are overhyped messes. This is the time to go out and tell everybody that Ohio's coming back. Discuss the close proximity of our cities, the every-day items that were invented and forged here, and the cultural aspects that make Ohio worth caring about with anybody and everybody who are finally ready to listen. There is obviously a shift happening in this country right now. We need to make sure that we pick up as many cards as possible while the decks falls.
February 4, 201114 yr Lord, Michelle is sure aging more gracefully than Barack. Not a single wrinkle in that scowl. MTS, I love the pic. Who is that? Baby-sub-Thing 2-Junior? Regarding this latest Forbes piece of garbage... despite the fact that these lists are glaringly misleading, they're widely publicized and often affect the residents of the cities that have been attacked. I think it's important to note the shift that occured between this "Miserable Cities" ranking and those prior. It seems that popular culture has latched onto what we've known for quite some time...California and Florida are overhyped messes. This is the time to go out and tell everybody that Ohio's coming back. Discuss the close proximity of our cities, the every-day items that were invented and forged here, and the cultural aspects that make Ohio worth caring about with anybody and everybody who are finally ready to listen. There is obviously a shift happening in this country right now. We need to make sure that we pick up as many cards as possible while the decks falls. Yes, that's the adorable Mr. Fussypants!
February 4, 201114 yr The gayest city debate is over. Any future posts on this subject will be deleted. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 4, 201114 yr Here. Here's a new list to enjoy and debate. Note that Cleveland is ranked #2 and Cincinnati #3 on the list. Glad to see Ohio getting some love........ http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20110204/BLOGS03/110209912 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 5, 201114 yr Toledo is a regular on this list. It must be all the heavy drinking (Toledo ranked 15th by Daily Beast), Tony Packo's, and coney dogs. The Best and Worst Cities for Men 2011 The 10 Best 1. Madison, WI 2. Fargo, ND 3. Plano, TX 4. Burlington, VT 5. San Jose, CA 6. Lincoln, NE 7. Austin, TX 8. Aurora, CO 9. Virginia Beach, VA 10. Seattle, WA The 10 Worst 91. Toledo, OH 92. New Orleans, LA 93. Charleston, WV 94. Baltimore, MD 95. St. Petersburg, FL 96. Memphis, TN 97. Detroit, MI 98. Birmingham, AL 99. Philadelphia, PA 100. St. Louis, MO http://health.yahoo.net/rodale/MH/the-best-and-worst-cities-for-men-2011
February 6, 201114 yr Toledo is a regular on this list. It must be all the heavy drinking (Toledo ranked 15th by Daily Beast), Tony Packo's, and coney dogs. The Best and Worst Cities for Men 2011 The 10 Best 1. Madison, WI 2. Fargo, ND 3. Plano, TX 4. Burlington, VT 5. San Jose, CA 6. Lincoln, NE 7. Austin, TX 8. Aurora, CO 9. Virginia Beach, VA 10. Seattle, WA The 10 Worst 91. Toledo, OH 92. New Orleans, LA 93. Charleston, WV 94. Baltimore, MD 95. St. Petersburg, FL 96. Memphis, TN 97. Detroit, MI 98. Birmingham, AL 99. Philadelphia, PA 100. St. Louis, MO http://health.yahoo.net/rodale/MH/the-best-and-worst-cities-for-men-2011 Another advertorial. These copy writers/marketing folks area trip.
February 6, 201114 yr Fargo is #2. Really?? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 6, 201114 yr Here it is 2011's most miserable cities. It's bullsh!t and dumbass but that's the point of thread. Cleveland is number 10... http://www.forbes.com/2011/02/02/stockton-miami-cleveland-business-washington-miserable-cities.html I actually laughed out loud when I read the list. It's like Forbes can't deal with the fact that Cleveland's economy is improving. Unemployment in this country is 9% and our national job growth is amemic yet it still uses factors such as "weather". It also looks like they really had to "work" those numbers to keep Cleveland there. Gainful employment and affordable mortgages vs. sports championships and weather???? Hahahahaha. This list is based in some pre-housing bust fantasy world. My question is: I wonder how many people will be dumb enough to use these rankings to move to a place with a worse local/regional economy? Forbes is soooooo 2000's. I bet they know it too. Oh well. :D
February 6, 201114 yr I don`t know man, I never seize to get surprised. One of my coworkers, whenever Ohio State loses a game, calls in sick the next day and so he can have some time to pout. He acts like a big vagina when it comes to sports. I`m sure there`s plenty of others out there like him too. February does kinda make me think weather is a factor but I definitely agree finances should come before anything.
February 6, 201114 yr Author Top 10: SunRun ranks the greenest stadiums in the U.S. The countdown is on! We are days away from Super Bowl XLV when all eyes will be on Cowboys Stadium as the Pittsburgh Steelers take on the Green Bay Packers. To celebrate, SunRun has compiled a list of Top Ten Green Stadiums, and Cowboys Stadium ranks in the top five. We ranked the stadiums according to the depth and breadth of green initiatives, 9: Progressive Field, Home of The Cleveland Indians – The stadium uses recycled paper and cornstarch cups in their concession stands. http://www.sunrunhome.com/blog/
February 6, 201114 yr "He acts like a big vagina when it comes to sports." I'm sure there are comments you could make about this person *without* being misogynistic. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
February 7, 201114 yr Top 10: SunRun ranks the greenest stadiums in the U.S. The countdown is on! We are days away from Super Bowl XLV when all eyes will be on Cowboys Stadium as the Pittsburgh Steelers take on the Green Bay Packers. To celebrate, SunRun has compiled a list of Top Ten Green Stadiums, and Cowboys Stadium ranks in the top five. We ranked the stadiums according to the depth and breadth of green initiatives, 9: Progressive Field, Home of The Cleveland Indians – The stadium uses recycled paper and cornstarch cups in their concession stands. http://www.sunrunhome.com/blog/ And a fairly sizable solar panel installation...
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