June 17, 20177 yr Cincinnati named best in nation for college grads Cincinnati has once again been named the best city in the U.S. for new college graduates. ... The list included the 108 largest cities in the U.S. ranked based on a variety of metrics including affordability, job friendliness and entertainment options for new grads. Ohio cities took the top two spots with Columbus coming in second. More below: http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2017/06/14/cincinnati-named-best-in-nation-for-college-grads.html List below: https://smartasset.com/mortgage/the-best-cities-for-new-college-grads-in-2017 For the most part, I guess this list makes sense and I wouldn't call it a "Dumb ss[/member] list" necessarily. Columbus and Cincinnati seem to have a lot of Fortune 500-1000 or growing companies who seem to need workers so badly that they're actually willing to take on entry-level recent graduates and take the time to train and develop them even though they run the risk of the majority of new workers leaving after 6 months or a year. I think that's what makes a city's business climate the most friendly to recent college grads. Cleveland certainly has that with AmTrust (they've been acquiring other companies left and right) but that seems to be the extent of it in the Cleveland area, from my knowledge. Is Nashville really that great for college graduates? Looking at their metrics, I see they consider 'entertainment options' to be a factor but Nashville is known as the epicenter of Country Music culture; I wouldn't exactly consider that an entertainment option for people like myself who don't really care for country music unless it's Johnny Cash or someone extraordinary like that. For most people, country music isn't exactly an 'entertainment option.' There's a very limited market. I don't know much about Nashville but seeing them ranked at number 3 is weird to me, unless country music culture holds as much weight as much more important factors, when so many people in America don't even care for country music.
June 17, 20177 yr Cincinnati named best in nation for college grads Cincinnati has once again been named the best city in the U.S. for new college graduates. ... The list included the 108 largest cities in the U.S. ranked based on a variety of metrics including affordability, job friendliness and entertainment options for new grads. Ohio cities took the top two spots with Columbus coming in second. More below: http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2017/06/14/cincinnati-named-best-in-nation-for-college-grads.html List below: https://smartasset.com/mortgage/the-best-cities-for-new-college-grads-in-2017 For the most part, I guess this list makes sense and I wouldn't call it a "Dumb ss[/member] list" necessarily. Columbus and Cincinnati seem to have a lot of Fortune 500-1000 or growing companies who seem to need workers so badly that they're actually willing to take on entry-level recent graduates and take the time to train and develop them even though they run the risk of the majority of new workers leaving after 6 months or a year. I think that's what makes a city's business climate the most friendly to recent college grads. Cleveland certainly has that with AmTrust (they've been acquiring other companies left and right) but that seems to be the extent of it in the Cleveland area, from my knowledge. Is Nashville really that great for college graduates? Looking at their metrics, I see they consider 'entertainment options' to be a factor but Nashville is known as the epicenter of Country Music culture; I wouldn't exactly consider that an entertainment option for people like myself who don't really care for country music unless it's Johnny Cash or someone extraordinary like that. For most people, country music isn't exactly an 'entertainment option.' There's a very limited market. I don't know much about Nashville but seeing them ranked at number 3 is weird to me, unless country music culture holds as much weight as much more important factors, when so many people in America don't even care for country music. Cincinnati scored very low for jobs. It's ranking is based almost entirely on its affordability. I think the fact that the rankings are only based on 3 criteria, one of which is "fun", fully qualifies this list as dumb.
June 17, 20177 yr Right. 'Fun' is subjective and it's not something that only recent college grads look for.
June 21, 20177 yr One of the best ways to regularly appear on lists of fastest-growing cities is to, you know, actually have population growth. So how did Cleveland get on this list?? https://t.co/xbC7a9gMVr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 21, 20177 yr Because the metric was number of households moving. Which means absolutely nothing when relating to population growth, decline, etc.
June 21, 20177 yr Because the metric was number of households moving. Which means absolutely nothing when relating to population growth, decline, etc. Moving where? Just within the market or anywhere?
June 21, 20177 yr Sounded like anyone moving into the market, out of the market, within the market, etc. It wasn't a very good metric for anything other than the number of households moving location which doesn't say much about population.
June 21, 20177 yr http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/realestate/50-worst-cities-to-live-in/ss-BBCKRM1?ocid=ientp#image=1 50 Worst Cities to live in. Cincinnati at #25. Youngstown and Canton are #21 and #20. Surprisingly no Cleveland here. I only base this surprise on the fact Detroit is #1 and usually they're sister cities on these types of lists when one is ranked so high.
June 21, 20177 yr That's a 'Dumbss[/member] list' if I've ever seen one. It's like they just make this sh!t up and assume that by putting Detroit as the worst, we'll assume it's legit.
June 21, 20177 yr http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/realestate/50-worst-cities-to-live-in/ss-BBCKRM1?ocid=ientp#image=1 50 Worst Cities to live in. Cincinnati at #25. Youngstown and Canton are #21 and #20. Surprisingly no Cleveland here. I only base this surprise on the fact Detroit is #1 and usually they're sister cities on these types of lists when one is ranked so high. I'm not surprised, knocking Cleveland is so 2015.
June 23, 20177 yr https://www.ourtownamerica.com/local-business/the-top-45-fastest-growing-american-cities-in-2017/ The "moving van" survey is pretty nice to Ohio cities this year. The three C's are all in the top 20. Akron and Dayton also make the list. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
June 23, 20177 yr Hung out in Canton a bit tonight. There were a couple big events going on in the main drag. Something like music thursdays in their main park downtown. I attended a beerfest at their civic center. Only thing i didn't like is Canton brewing closes at like 9pm at night. The new stadium at the NFL hof is looking impressive. The one side is mainly completed. Definitely not a city that should be thrown on a worst list.
July 7, 20177 yr Indian Hill ranks No. 3 most affluent among nearly 15,000 U.S. cities The attached graphics show the leaders in Greater Cincinnati in the 12 affluence categories, with their overall national affluence ranks in parentheses. It's worth noting that Indian Hill ranks No. 3 nationally out of nearly 15,000 communities. The 2017 affluence ratings are based on ACBJ’s 12-part formula, which used statistics from the five-year version of the Census Bureau’s 2015 American Community Survey, the current source of official data at the local level. (The statistical records for a few communities were incomplete, leading to their exclusion from ACBJ’s rankings.) More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2017/07/07/indian-hill-ranks-no-3-most-affluent-among-nearly.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
August 3, 20177 yr Parma: The 64th Safest City in the Nation! http://star102cleveland.cbslocal.com/2017/08/03/parma-the-64th-safest-city-in-the-nation/ The article's photo shows downtown Parma in the distance. :laugh: :laugh: :shoot:
September 21, 20177 yr A Brookings Metro data on tech industry concentration... Here's the analysis: http://brook.gs/2mg5lE9 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 21, 20177 yr So Cincy and Cleveland have slight gains in tech jobs and Columbus and Dayton are not faring super well?
September 21, 20177 yr I don't even know if you could call Cincy and Cleveland "gains" when they're essentially at 0%. Dayton and Columbus only shrunk by maybe 0.2% at most, which also doesn't seem very statistically significant. That's only one less job per 500 employees, if not less. “To an Ohio resident - wherever he lives - some other part of his state seems unreal.”
September 21, 20177 yr Yeah, the only significant statistical gain/loss in that chart is the Bay Area, Austin, and Washington DC. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
September 21, 20177 yr Speaking of the DC metro and the decline of tech here: The Virginia DMV used to issue special plates with Internet C@pital on the bottom and maybe they still do but I haven't seen single one this decade.
September 21, 20177 yr I don't even know if you could call Cincy and Cleveland "gains" when they're essentially at 0%. Since the first three years of the period being examined were fairly disastrous for Cleveland employment (worse than national averages), I'd say any gain in national share for the whole period was an accomplishment. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
September 22, 20177 yr its amazing that the nyc metro has zoomed up, is holding down third place and has about caught up to the sf and sj metros in the techy job growth --- or is even a distant second if you count sf/sj together. seems like an expensive place to do businesses like that, which can basically be done anywhere.
November 28, 20177 yr http://www.news5cleveland.com/entertainment/around-town/national-geographic-names-cleveland-in-2018-best-of-world-list
November 29, 20177 yr Truly "A Tale of Two Cities", wherein day-vs-night in opposite corners of Ohio... To the NE (;D), Emerald City: http://www.news5cleveland.com/entertainment/around-town/national-geographic-names-cleveland-in-2018-best-of-world-list To the SW (:o), Sodom & Gomorrah: http://www.wlwt.com/article/sin-cinnati-queen-city-ranks-among-most-sinful-in-america/13948146
December 13, 20177 yr 2018’s Best College Towns & Cities in America Dec 12, 2017 | Richie Bernardo, Senior Writer Here's the ranking for Ohio cities: Oxford (29), Cincinnati (50), Columbus (71), Athens (112), Bowling Green (267), Kent (325), Cleveland (332), Dayton (345), Toledo (372), Akron (378). http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/12/cleveland_and_akron_rank_among.html#incart_river_index https://wallethub.com/edu/best-worst-college-cities-and-towns-in-america/8974/ Amazing to have a list of living in a college town and not consider public transportation or walkability.
December 22, 20177 yr I was gonna put this on the census thread, but it really belongs here. I guess I can never live in Painesville again since it's the 11th "youngest" city in Ohio, and I'm now...old. :( http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/index.ssf/2017/12/ranking_every_ohio_city_county_6.html http://www.mainstreetpainesville.org/
January 16, 20187 yr Three Ohio communities made his list.... 25 Neighborhoods that “Have It All”: Affordable Homes, Highly Rated Schools, An Easy Commute AND Plenty of Inventory Chicago’s Dunning and Ashburn Top the List, Followed by Squirrel Hill in Pittsburgh https://www.redfin.com/blog//01/25-neighborhoods-that-have-it-all-affordable-homes-highly-rated-schools-an-easy-commute-and-plenty-of-inventory.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 16, 20187 yr ^ Absurd that Mt. Adams would have the third highest transit score on that list. Weekend bus service was recently cut through the neighborhood, and it's spotty during the week with just one route. The downtown bus hub is walkable, though the walk back up Mt. Adams is a little strenuous, and not reasonable for anyone with mobility issues.
January 16, 20187 yr 52 Places to Visit in 2018 Cincinnati is #8 https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/travel/places-to-visit.html
January 17, 20187 yr http://www.wkyc.com/mobile/article/news/local/cleveland/cleveland-ranked-among-top-hygge-cities-in-america/95-508765246 We're hygge!
January 25, 20187 yr Cleveland ranked among worst places to raise a family in Ohio https://t.co/y7e1N1VMaW via @WKYC "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 26, 20187 yr Well, since this is Ohio Discussion, from that site: 10 WORST 1. East Cleveland 2. Cleveland 3. Warrensville Heights 4. Whitehall 5. Dayton 6. Trotwood 7. Maple Heights 8. Cincinnati 9. Lima 10. Youngstown "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
January 26, 20187 yr It would be cool if they could have included diversity and access to cultural institutions in these rankings. My childhood was greatly enhanced by going to a diverse elementary school, living in a place where I got exposed to different cultures, and visiting places like the zoo, art museum, natural history museum, etc.
January 26, 20187 yr It would be cool if they could have included diversity and access to cultural institutions in these rankings. My childhood was greatly enhanced by going to a diverse elementary school, living in a place where I got exposed to different cultures, and visiting places like the zoo, art museum, natural history museum, etc. Not to give credence to this dumb list, but I think it speaks more to immediate proximity and city boundaries. Like, I grew up between Philly and NYC and every week was a school trip to some amazing cultural institution; a cool museum, Broadway or the Philadelphia zoo. But in my neighborhood people didn't have to lock their doors. It was quiet. And the schools were decent. Likewise you don't have to live in the city limits of Cleveland, Dayton or Cincy to take advantage of the great attributes of those places.
January 26, 20187 yr Rhode Island, Connecticut and Illinois are the 'worst possible states to live in' (but Louisiana and Mississippi aren't much better) If you want to lead a happy life, Boulder, Colorado, it seems, is the place to be – because it was named as the happiest city in the U.S. last October. It topped a list of 25 of America's happiest cities, revealed in the book The Blue Zones of Happiness, by National Geographic Explorer Dan Buettner. Along with National Geographic and Gallup, he developed an index to measure a population's happiness based on 15 metrics including civic engagement, walkability and healthful food options. Boulder tops the list with walkability, access to nature and sense of community being contributing factors to its residents' happiness. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5315457/Rhode-Island-Connecticut-Illinois-worst-states.html#ixzz55IGnJKcC
January 26, 20187 yr Lol...I can think of much worse places to live than Rhode Island, Connecticut, and Illinois. In fact, most of the list of the most satisfied people comes to mind...
January 26, 20187 yr http://www.wkyc.com/mobile/article/news/local/cleveland/cleveland-ranked-among-top-hygge-cities-in-america/95-508765246 We're hygge! That's funny to see becuase my gf made a hyeecle insta account a little while back. At the time I questioned why (she has never been to Denmark). I guess she's validated now.
January 26, 20187 yr It would be cool if they could have included diversity and access to cultural institutions in these rankings. My childhood was greatly enhanced by going to a diverse elementary school, living in a place where I got exposed to different cultures, and visiting places like the zoo, art museum, natural history museum, etc. They did include a metric for "attractions" (e.g., zoos, museums, theaters), weighted at about 4%, for which Cleveland ranked 1st. However no amount of attractions is going to overcome the sheer number of other metrics that Cleveland and other urban areas likely finished at the bottom of the pile in such as: Divorce rate, Share of Two-Parent Families, Share of Households Receiving Food Stamps, Unemployment Rate, Foreclosure Rate, % of families below the poverty line, violent crime rate, property crime rate, median family income, high school graduation rate, quality of school system, and share of uninsured children. Approximately half the weight on this scoring methodology is put towards metrics that a city like Cleveland will measure terribly on. Adding "diversity" would not appreciably change that unless you gave it comically undue weight.
January 26, 20187 yr However no amount of attractions is going to overcome the sheer number of other metrics that Cleveland and other urban areas likely finished at the bottom of the pile in such as: Divorce rate, Share of Two-Parent Families, Share of Households Receiving Food Stamps, Unemployment Rate, Foreclosure Rate, % of families below the poverty line, violent crime rate, property crime rate, median family income, high school graduation rate, quality of school system, and share of uninsured children. Approximately half the weight on this scoring methodology is put towards metrics that a city like Cleveland will measure terribly on. Adding "diversity" would not appreciably change that unless you gave it comically undue weight. Raising a family in a safe neighborhood with access to good schools with two parents in the house, and middle to upper middle class income are probably predictive of a good environment to raise children. That situation can exist anywhere, including in central cities. What this list did is measure homogeneity. Some things like crime rate, and share of uninsured children are probably good metrics, but the others just seem to be kind of silly. I have lots of friends whose parents were divorced, but that didn't impact my family. I didn't have to rely on food stamps for meals, but would knowing and interacting with kids who do be such a bad and damaging thing? Furthermore, the racial correlation in these lists is pretty blatant. Is Mason really a great place for a black couple to raise a family? They just had an incident where a teacher told a black student that if he didn't settle down and do his work, he'd be lynched. Great environment to raise a black child! Maybe the list should be retitled "Best Places to Raise a Sheltered White Family."
May 10, 20187 yr The most expensive city destinations in the Midwest According to the latest survey conducted by ChicagoHotels.org, Cincinnati is the most expensive destination in the Midwest. The survey compared 30 Midwestern cities based on the cost of lodging during May 2018. Most Midwestern cities see their highest visitor numbers during the spring, and hotel rates reach their peak during this time. In Cincinnati, travelers will have to spend $186 per night, on average, to stay in the cheapest available double room. It has to be noted that only centrally-located hotels rated at least three stars have been considered by the survey. Cincinnati, OH $186 Madison, WI $184 Ann Arbor, MI $184 Fort Wayne, IN $179 Grand Rapids, MI $174 Indianapolis, IN $169 Kansas City, MO $164 Chicago, IL $157 Columbus, OH $147 Detroit, MI $141 Des Moines, IA $135 Cleveland, OH $134 Omaha, NE $134 Peoria, IL $129 Rockford, IL $124 Lincoln, NE $124 Saint Paul, MN $121 Saint Louis, MO $117 Springfield, MO $117 Rochester, MN $112 Minneapolis, MN $107 Sioux Falls, SD $107 Springfield, IL $107 Cedar Rapids, IO $105 Milwaukee, WI $104 Bismarck, ND $104 Toledo, OH $94 Green Bay, WI $94 Topeka, KS $97 Wichita, KS $87 More below: https://www.chicagohotels.org/press/midwest18.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 10, 20187 yr 3 Ohio cities among top 10 metros where $100 will go the furthest (tied 1) Cincinnati, Ohio Prices 10.8% lower than U.S. average Value of $100: $112.11 https://www.cleveland.com/expo/erry-2018/05/b9c40ab8b0731/here_are_the_top_10_areas_wher.html#incart_m-rpt-1
May 10, 20187 yr The most expensive city destinations in the Midwest According to the latest survey conducted by ChicagoHotels.org, Cincinnati is the most expensive destination in the Midwest. The survey compared 30 Midwestern cities based on the cost of lodging during May 2018. Most Midwestern cities see their highest visitor numbers during the spring, and hotel rates reach their peak during this time. In Cincinnati, travelers will have to spend $186 per night, on average, to stay in the cheapest available double room. It has to be noted that only centrally-located hotels rated at least three stars have been considered by the survey. Cincinnati, OH $186 Madison, WI $184 Ann Arbor, MI $184 Fort Wayne, IN $179 Grand Rapids, MI $174 Indianapolis, IN $169 Kansas City, MO $164 Chicago, IL $157 Columbus, OH $147 Detroit, MI $141 Des Moines, IA $135 Cleveland, OH $134 Omaha, NE $134 Peoria, IL $129 Rockford, IL $124 Lincoln, NE $124 Saint Paul, MN $121 Saint Louis, MO $117 Springfield, MO $117 Rochester, MN $112 Minneapolis, MN $107 Sioux Falls, SD $107 Springfield, IL $107 Cedar Rapids, IO $105 Milwaukee, WI $104 Bismarck, ND $104 Toledo, OH $94 Green Bay, WI $94 Topeka, KS $97 Wichita, KS $87 More below: https://www.chicagohotels.org/press/midwest18.html Major bands complain about this all the time since they usually stay in these types of accommodations. There's still not enough hotel rooms Downtown and the other problem is that people are accustomed to these rates.
May 25, 20187 yr Cincy #7... We ranked America’s park systems. And the winner is … by The Trust for Public Land You are here Home/Blogs/We ranked America’s park systems. And the winner is … May 22, 2018 We admit it: we’re park nerds here at The Trust for Public Land. So we’re excited to release this year’s ParkScore® index, our annual ranking of the largest U.S. cities based on park access, acreage, and funding. ParkScore spurs friendly competition between cities and offers insights into how they plan for parks and open spaces. But our favorite thing about ParkScore is its power to inspire action—helping elected officials and everyday people use data to make the case for parks in their communities. https://www.tpl.org/10minutewalk#sm.00009s6onx9okd6q10j3urdtcg6fz
May 31, 20187 yr ^ Haven't been to the Twin Cities, but I have heard they have great parks and recreational opportunities. Hard to argue with the rest of that list, except maybe Irvine. Of the big cities I've spent any time in, San Francisco has the best and most plentiful parks by a large margin. Golden Gate Park, the Presidio, Sutro Forest, all the neighborhood 'square' parks (Lafayette, Washington, Alta Plaza, etc.) are each great. Los Angeles is probably the worst parked city I've ever spent time in. Beyond the beaches and the great parks in the hills, like Griffith and Elysian, the rest of the city has almost no sizable parks to speak of. Lots of private and semi-public greenery around, but few quality parks. In Ohio, Cincinnati's park system is definitely the best, imo. Even before Smale Riverfront Park, the park system in the city was amazing. Ault, Eden, Alms, Mt. Airy Forest, the riverfront parks east of downtown, Mt. Echo...each would be the showcase park in most cities.
May 31, 20187 yr ^Don't forget Washington Park! It's really the only one of its kind in the region, being a truly urban park. I'd agree that Cincinnati has the best "city parks", but Cleveland and Dayton both have some excellent metroparks and nature preserves. Those are a somewhat different type of park, of course. “To an Ohio resident - wherever he lives - some other part of his state seems unreal.”
May 31, 20187 yr ^ Oh yeah, Washington Park is definitely special. Greater Dayton has Clifton Gorge and John Bryan State Park, plus Glen Helen in Yellow Springs. Some of my favorite places in the country, to be honest. And I enjoyed my time in Cuyahoga Valley NP and Edgewater Park in Cleveland.
June 14, 20187 yr Quite a few Ohio cities made the list: Least livable: 50 worst US cities to reside in https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/economy/2018/06/13/50-worst-cities-to-live-in/35909271/
June 14, 20187 yr Quite a few Ohio cities made the list: Least livable: 50 worst US cities to reside in https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/economy/2018/06/13/50-worst-cities-to-live-in/35909271/ Akron, Cincinnati, and Columbus managed to avoid the list. But some of those...really? Atlanta, Salt Lake City. etc. on that list with 550 plus cities 'better' than them? LOL.
June 14, 20187 yr There's a reason these are called dumb lists. They don't even use consistent methodology. For Cleveland (and many other cities at the top of the list) they used crime rates for the city proper. However, they removed Las Vegas after they inexplicably decided to use the MSA crime rate.
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