March 6, 201411 yr ^Surely not the best list, but I don't see how it's necessarily embarrassing. It's embarrassing because it leads one to believe that's the best list someone can come up with to show off the state. My god, I could make a list of things in Cincinnati alone that makes Ohio look more appealing. Roebling Bridge is not entirely in KY...and it's certainly visible from OH...so it's definitely fair game, and one of the better items on the list. It's a legit, unique, attractive landmark, with a history that is interesting nationally and not just locally or regionally (bridging the Mason-Dixon, being under construction during the Civil War, and being a prototype for the Brooklyn Bridge) (of course, they stupidly did not focus on these aspects). They should have listed the Hall of Justice, too. I will never understand why people list Skyline like it's amazing, when the cool thing about Cincy chili is the cultural aspect of an abundance of chili parlors per capita, many varieties/takes on the formula, lots of mom & pop shops, etc. ... not one goddamn corporation, which in most franchises has a very sub-par product. That is like saying one of the best things about Illinois is fzcking Uno's. Oh, right, they also said Donato's. WTF? Cedar Point and the North Coast (+ islands) are legit inclusions.
March 6, 201411 yr I found it embarrassing because there really wasn't too much in there to change anybody's opinion of Ohio. It was a lot of food and what not.
March 6, 201411 yr It reads like somebody who has never spent any time in Ohio did a google search and put together a list in an hour.
March 6, 201411 yr I found it embarrassing because there really wasn't too much in there to change anybody's opinion of Ohio. It was a lot of food and what not. And chain food at that. It reads like somebody who has never spent any time in Ohio did a google search and put together a list in an hour. Or someone who has lived in Ohio all their life and doesn't know what is unique or interesting to pique the interest of outsiders.
March 6, 201411 yr WTF?? I never even heard of the Warthers Museum! No, they couldn't have actually picked a world-class art museum like Cleveland (or Cincinnati for that matter), because everyone knows that nothing in Ohio possibly could rival or match a museum in New York. http://www.mainstreetpainesville.org/
March 6, 201411 yr But Donato's rivals the best pizza in NYC! What?!?! No freaking way Donato's beats an NYC jewel like Sbarro's.
March 6, 201411 yr I hesitate to do this, but this website seems to consist of nothing but lists like this: http://www.escapehere.com/ It even does things like a top ten most dangerous US cities list that is copied from Forbes, I think. (CLE fans will draw their own conclusions.)
March 6, 201411 yr 7 out of the 10 countries they said to not visit in 2014 had green in their flags. I detect bias. & Haiti didn't even make the list.
March 7, 201411 yr WTF?? I never even heard of the Warthers Museum! No, they couldn't have actually picked a world-class art museum like Cleveland (or Cincinnati for that matter), because everyone knows that nothing in Ohio possibly could rival or match a museum in New York. Just because you haven't heard of it, doesn't mean it isn't world class. Warthers is a large collection of very intricate hand-crafted ivory and wood carvings of trains, ships, and other objects by ONE MAN. It has been in existence for almost 80 years. I first heard of it about 30 years ago and visited it in the 1990s. It is worth seeing. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 7, 201411 yr WTF?? I never even heard of the Warthers Museum! No, they couldn't have actually picked a world-class art museum like Cleveland (or Cincinnati for that matter), because everyone knows that nothing in Ohio possibly could rival or match a museum in New York. The Toledo Museum of Art obliterates just about anything else I've seen in the United States. The Toledo Zoo does too. With that said, I thought the list was somewhat fair. At least they hit Cedar Point and Lake Erie hard. Ditto with Hocking Hills. I just would have removed Donatos and Ohio State football. Marquee tourist attractions like museums and zoos don't have that big of an influence on a city or state's reputation. They're bragging rights, sure, but in Ohio's case, they're leftovers from the glory days. Their day-to-day quality of life influence is not very big since locals only hit these spots once every year or so. Having a world class art museum or zoo is awesome, but I still have yet to hear anyone say, "I'm going to Omaha for that zoo, dammit!" Tourists hit cities like San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York, etc. for many different reasons. Marquee attractions are just a small part of their appeal... *And really, you could put something like the Toledo Museum of Art or Cleveland Museum of Art against anything in San Francisco, and it's no contest. Toledo and Cleveland win handily. No one is about to choose Toledo and Cleveland over San Francisco for their vacation...
March 7, 201411 yr But Donato's rivals the best pizza in NYC! Haha, no, just no. Good NY pie pretty much kills all other pizza in America. I'm glad I don't live near all that quality temptation or it'd be tough to keep weight down! Some of the best pizza I've ever had was at an Italian place in Brooklyn. *There's much better pizza in Ohio than Donatos...and in the Midwest, I'd probably give the edge to NYPD pizza in Ann Arbor, because their style is right.
March 7, 201411 yr In case it wasn't clear, I was being sarcastic about Donato's. It's ok but pretty meh on the whole. Cassano's from Dayton is better. So is Adriatico's in Cincy. And they pale in comparison to a good NY pie. I never liked Chicago pizza until I went to Lou Malnati's and that is amazing stuff. Donato's should not make a best-of anything list.
March 7, 201411 yr ^Yeah, that pretty much killed the list. The fact she missed the art museums in Toledo and Cleveland, and zoos in Toledo and Cincinnati while including stuff with far lower prestige was in poor form. I get the Columbus Zoo has a reputation so it made the list (thank you Jack Hanna), but Toledo and Cincinnati are every bit as good and way more urban (what other state has three zoos of that quality?). I have no idea why the list lacked a single world class art museum. Few states have any museum near the level of Toledo or Cleveland, let alone two or three of them (Cincinnati stands out too). Also, the public library systems in Cincinnati and Columbus (and probably Cleveland and Toledo) should have been included. They blow away cities ten times their size. She could have just added sections for art museums, zoos, and libraries, and that would have covered it. She also missed Lebanese at Beirut in Toledo (or really any of Toledo's world class Lebanese spots, not to mention world class coney dogs at Tony Packo's), Octoberfest in Cincinnati (that has no equal in America), the plethora of summer street fairs in most of the major cities (Lagrange Fest is one of the only blue collar Polish fairs left on that level), ATHENS (one of the greatest party towns in America), and the great microbrew scene all around the state. She also could have listed Columbus Pride which would shock most coastal elites (I don't think anyone on the coasts knows how gay Columbus is). I'd consider some other geographic attractions too like Oak Openings, Marblehead (though Lake Erie covers this), and Serpent Mound. Also, soft serve ice cream is another thing Ohio takes to the extreme (or maybe that's more a Northwest Ohio thing). Good hard ice cream is everywhere. Good soft serve like Mel-O-Creme is much harder to find. *It is a somewhat questionable list that makes me think she doesn't know much about Ohio...though I guess an LA girl listing Lake Erie, Cedar Point, and Hocking Hills is already more than Ohioans can ask. :wink:
March 7, 201411 yr AND DON'T FORGET CEDAR BOG!!!!! oh, wait, it's a ridiculous list banged out in about 15 minute to fill space....
March 7, 201411 yr Heck, I didn't know there was good soft serve. I am intrigued. Cue the More You Know graphic.
March 7, 201411 yr Heck, I didn't know there were "world class coney dogs." I am not intrigued. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
March 7, 201411 yr I know about "world class wreckin' cru's" though. But we don't have those in Ohio...
March 8, 201411 yr Heck, I didn't know there was good soft serve. I am intrigued. Cue the More You Know graphic. Behold, the best soft serve in the United States: http://www.yelp.com/biz/mel-o-creme-holland This place would get giant lines in the summer, sometimes over half an hour...and you wait for it because of how good it is. That's insane considering its location in the middle of nowhere next to the Toledo-Chicago rail line:
March 8, 201411 yr One of my customers is literally right around the corner from there on Albon rd. I'll have to try it this summer.
March 14, 201411 yr Springfield, Lima, Mansfield The Top 10 Most Affordable Small Cities http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/11/top-affordable-small-cities_n_4943698.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
March 14, 201411 yr The comments on those affordable lists are always "Well duh who would want to live there? Ya get what you pay for"
March 17, 201411 yr ^ Exactly. Pricing is based on the market and demand. New York City doesn't have extremely high housing costs for the hell of it. So many people want to live their that the prices continue to get higher and higher until nobody is willing to pay that price. And that hasn't happened yet!
March 17, 201411 yr In theory, that's how it works. But theory assumes all economic actors are 100% rational, which is never true.
March 28, 201411 yr since there's no "dumb-a$$ list/Ranking of counties" I guess it's okay to put this here :| Geauga County leads state's health rankings again, Cuyahoga still struggles http://www.cleveland.com/healthfit/index.ssf/2014/03/geauga_county_leads_states_hea.html By Brie Zeltner, The Plain Dealer Follow on Twitter on March 26, 2014 at 6:00 AM, updated March 26, 2014 at 7:47 AM CLEVELAND, Ohio - For the second year in a row, Geauga County topped a national health ranking of Ohio counties and Cuyahoga County continued to struggle, remaining in the bottom third of the state’s 88 counties in most of the areas measured. http://www.mainstreetpainesville.org/
March 28, 201411 yr The 5 Cities Where It’s Easiest — and Hardest — to Walk to the Grocery Store Walk Score used its algorithm to cross-reference millions of walking routes with its database of grocery store locations. Then it ranked cities with populations over 500,000 according to the share of residents who can walk to a grocery store in five minutes. Here are the top five: 1 New York 72% 2 San Francisco 59% 3 Philadelphia 57% 4 Boston 45% 5 Washington D.C. 41% Walk Score also ranked the places where the lowest share of residents can walk to a grocery store in five minutes: 1 Indianapolis 5% 2 Oklahoma City 5% 3 Charlotte 6% 4 Tucson 6% 5 Albuquerque 7%
March 28, 201411 yr I get such a skewed view of Charlotte because you can easily walk to two grocery stores (maybe more) from my dad's house in Dilworth.
April 2, 201411 yr http://www.thrillist.com/eat/nation/cleveland-detroit-and-houston-food-scenes-underrated-food-cities-thrillist-nation
April 2, 201411 yr Odd list when you look at both listings. http://money.cnn.com/2014/04/02/news/economy/sprawling-cities/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
April 3, 201411 yr Odd list when you look at both listings. http://money.cnn.com/2014/04/02/news/economy/sprawling-cities/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 Yeah, really strange that Warren, Michigan is sprwled out while Detroit is compact??? Somethings off there.
May 15, 201411 yr Best cities to own a dog It ranks dog parks by number, quality doesn't seem to matter. http://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/cities/best-cities-dog/
May 20, 201411 yr List of the most dangerous, and safest metro areas for pedestrians Cleveland comes in as the 10th safest along with a grouping of other older, northern cities, while the list of most dangerous is predictibly dominated by the sunbelt. http://www.citylab.com/commute/2014/05/the-most-dangerous-us-cities-for-pedestrians/371253/
May 22, 201411 yr http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/05/nfl-draft-per-capita-texas-florida-half-states It's good to see Ohio is doing well.
June 18, 201410 yr List of most Walk-able metro areas - Cleveland makes the top 10 Rocking the walking: Millennials drive new urban spaces http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/06/17/walkable-urban-places-findings/10623587/
June 18, 201410 yr List of most Walk-able metro areas - Cleveland makes the top 10 Rocking the walking: Millennials drive new urban spaces http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/06/17/walkable-urban-places-findings/10623587/ Cant trust this considering Philly didn't make the top ten, but Atlanta did. SMDH!
June 26, 201410 yr America's 30 Dirtiest Beaches by State http://www.weather.com/health/americas-dirtiest-beaches-state-20140625 Ohio: Ohio is the dirtiest of them all. 47 Ohio beaches (75 percent of the state's total) recorded unsafe samples more than 20 percent of the time. Lakeview Beach in Lorain County was the worst. (Wikimedia Commons/Robert Chriss)
June 28, 201410 yr America's 30 Dirtiest Beaches by State http://www.weather.com/health/americas-dirtiest-beaches-state-20140625 Ohio: Ohio is the dirtiest of them all. 47 Ohio beaches (75 percent of the state's total) recorded unsafe samples more than 20 percent of the time. Lakeview Beach in Lorain County was the worst. (Wikimedia Commons/Robert Chriss) Nice pictures, but terrible publicity. On the bright side, at least testing is more prevalent now here. Winning the award for "Dirtiest" brings up an important point: Lake Erie is so shallow that it cannot possible handle the runoff pollution as effectively as the ocean or deeper Great Lakes. It shows a "one size fits all" approach doesn't do us any favors. The state of Ohio has to go above and beyond the Clean Water Act and Federal laws and use every tool available to get our Great Lake up to acceptable condition. Whether it be coastal zoning requirements or more aggressive wetland recreation or whatever, we need more help asap.
June 30, 201410 yr If the lake can't handle it, then the solution is to stop dumping so many pollutants into it. Don't blame the lake for the pollutants. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 30, 201410 yr Since the 70s though the amount of raw sewage in the lake has dropped from 9 billion gallons to 4.5 billion now, and due to the new drainage systems being built it is expected to drop to 500 million by 2035. Bright side? Glass half full?
June 30, 201410 yr Since the 70s though the amount of raw sewage in the lake has dropped from 9 billion gallons to 4.5 billion now, and due to the new drainage systems being built it is expected to drop to 500 million by 2035. Bright side? Glass half full? Chile, I'll be dead. Glass one eight full!
June 30, 201410 yr You won't be dead in 2035. Sheesh, you're my age! I'll be only 68 in 2035, and I plan on living to 100. Unless the pollution in Lake Erie kills me. :weird: "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 30, 201410 yr You won't be dead in 2035. Sheesh, you're my age! I'll be only 68 in 2035, and I plan on living to 100. Unless the pollution in Lake Erie kills me. :weird: That was a negative Nancy way of looking at things. My grand parents are in their early 90s, so I'll probably be around to torture people!
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