10 minutes ago, Toddguy said:

It really is sad that in a town of 10,000 people there is not a single good sit down restaurant. The Chinese place by Kroger and the other one on the east side of town by the tracks are both "meh".  I think they are planning on a "real" restaurant near that new development along Keny Blvd.

 

London is about 88% non-hispanic white as of the last census.

 

Yeah man, everything is mediocre. The fast food is horrible even for fast food. Konnichiwa's food is really inconsistent, it entirely depends on who is cooking it. Happy Wok is insanely mediocre. There's Ronetti's but I didn't bother to bring them up because they're so far from being a real Italian restaurant it's an insult to Italians and their food is so bland I honestly forgot about them.

 

Instead of demanding higher standards from the owners or working on getting new options here to create more competition, people here just complain on social media about it and drive 20 minutes to Hilliard when they want to eat out. 

 

Being a small city for sure isn't an excuse for that. Bellfountaine is pretty small and much more in the middle of nowhere but look at what all they have!

Edited August 9, 20213 yr by David

1 hour ago, David said:

 

Yeah man, everything is mediocre. The fast food is horrible even for fast food. Konnichiwa's food is really inconsistent, it entirely depends on who is cooking it. Happy Wok is insanely mediocre. There's Ronetti's but I didn't bother to bring them up because they're so far from being a real Italian restaurant it's an insult to Italians and their food is so bland I honestly forgot about them.

 

Instead of demanding higher standards from the owners or working on getting new options here to create more competition, people here just complain on social media about it and drive 20 minutes to Hilliard when they want to eat out. 

 

Being a small city for sure isn't an excuse for that. Bellfountaine is pretty small and much more in the middle of nowhere but look at what all they have!

Well if London is starting to get you down, just think of West Jefferson and you won't feel so bad. Two main shopping options-Family Dollar and Dollar General smh.  I pray to(insert whatever here)that they at least build that subdivision and get some sort of Kroger.

Just a comment about fast food in white towns:

 

I'm a white guy living on a white street in a black neighborhood in a white-majority city, and the fast food joints in my neighborhood are always, always better than the ones in the suburbs. Contrary to the image of a Karen, white folks will take what they get from MacDonald, but from what I've seen, my Black neighbors expect their Whopper the right way, fries hot, or it gets sent back. I almost always get super hot french fries when I stick close to home. 

Edited August 9, 20213 yr by westerninterloper

I question their methodology:

 

The Best Cities To Live In For Fans Of Rock And Roll Museums And The Cleveland Browns

Both Cle and Cin do well in a national ranking of 15 min cities.  https://www.theurbanist.org/2021/08/16/study-ranks-u-s-cities-by-15-minute-city-potential/

That list mostly seems plausible, except Orlando, which has almost no walkable areas outside of the Downtown/Lake Eola/Thornton Park area- maybe a couple square miles out of a metro of 2 million+.

On 8/20/2021 at 9:11 PM, X said:

That list mostly seems plausible, except Orlando, which has almost no walkable areas outside of the Downtown/Lake Eola/Thornton Park area- maybe a couple square miles out of a metro of 2 million+.

 

Edgewater Drive is pretty walkable. My parents lived there when they spent winters in Florida 20 years ago.

 

Having a lot of 15-minute-city areas helps limit your city's traffic. Probably one reason why traffic drops on the highways as you get into Cleveland, especially on the west side.

forbes clikbait best places to retire in each state. its mostly what you would expect, college towns and capitals. except ohio: top is sandusky and runner-up is parma:

 

https://www3.forbes.com/business/best-places-to-retire-in-each-state-2018/71/

a fun one --

 

toni morrison's book cover gets ranked as one of the 25 greatest book covers of all time by lit hub:

 

https://lithub.com/the-25-most-iconic-book-covers-in-history/?utm_source=pocket-newtab

 

Toni Morrison, Song of Solomon; cover design by R. D. Scudellari, 1977

 

'Anecdotally, this is the book cover I see most often on t-shirts. It’s almost the same color scheme as Portnoy’s Complaint, though I much prefer this custom type treatment, with the stacked os and hidden face':

https://fontsinuse.com/uses/27323/song-of-solomon-by-toni-morrison-alfred-a-kno

25 minutes ago, mrnyc said:

a fun one --

 

toni morrison's book cover gets ranked as one of the 25 greatest book covers of all time by lit hub:

 

https://lithub.com/the-25-most-iconic-book-covers-in-history/?utm_source=pocket-newtab

 

Toni Morrison, Song of Solomon; cover design by R. D. Scudellari, 1977

 

'Anecdotally, this is the book cover I see most often on t-shirts. It’s almost the same color scheme as Portnoy’s Complaint, though I much prefer this custom type treatment, with the stacked os and hidden face':

https://fontsinuse.com/uses/27323/song-of-solomon-by-toni-morrison-alfred-a-kno

I’ve not read Song of Solomon, but the thought of someone conflating it with Portnoy’s Complaint just made my day.

I wasn’t expecting to read this:

 

Cbus skyline ranked as 9th best in America, beating Seattle and Austin. 
 

https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/new-report-ranks-columbus-ohio-skyline-as-9th-best-in-america-10-27-2021?fbclid=IwAR0vCNdegkNcf0_jvlY7mo8Z8fS1VzeZ6hXVAeccNhhCF1nLD3BjR4l8bm8

8 minutes ago, amped91 said:

I wasn’t expecting to read this:

 

Cbus skyline ranked as 9th best in America, beating Seattle and Austin. 
 

https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/new-report-ranks-columbus-ohio-skyline-as-9th-best-in-america-10-27-2021?fbclid=IwAR0vCNdegkNcf0_jvlY7mo8Z8fS1VzeZ6hXVAeccNhhCF1nLD3BjR4l8bm8

 

Huh?

Except for the LeVeque Lincoln tower, it's kind of boring.   Not very tall and nothing distinctive.

^Whoa, I know the 3C's like to poke fun at each other. In all seriousness, Columbus is a great city for many reasons...Dense, walkable, vibrant core. But skyline being the 9th best? I don't quite see that at all. as much as I love Ohio's cities, I am not quite sure any of our skylines crack top 10 TBH

No love for Pittsburgh? smh

27 minutes ago, amped91 said:

Cbus skyline ranked as 9th best in America, beating Seattle and Austin.

 

But unfortunately came just behind the world renown skyline of... Nantucket?

The original list isn't a skyline ranking.  They just mention skylines, but it's a list of the most "engaged" with cities on Instagram.

17 hours ago, YO to the CLE said:

^Whoa, I know the 3C's like to poke fun at each other. In all seriousness, Columbus is a great city for many reasons...Dense, walkable, vibrant core. But skyline being the 9th best? I don't quite see that at all. as much as I love Ohio's cities, I am not quite sure any of our skylines crack top 10 TBH

 

Who cares about a “top ten” list when our skyline started each episode of an award winning show starring Betty White? 🤷🏻‍♂️

5 hours ago, MayDay said:

 

Who cares about a “top ten” list when our skyline started each episode of an award winning show starring Betty White? 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

And has only gotten better with time.....

Cincinnati and Cleveland are good places for a quickie!

 

http://blog.hotwire.com/quickieindex/

 

Edited December 14, 20213 yr by LibertyBlvd

Cbus ranks as the 8th best capital city in the US, according to WalletHub. 
 

https://wallethub.com/edu/best-state-capitals/19030

And, perhaps, a not-so-distinguished honor:

 

The 3 C’s stuck together at 8, 9, and 10 on Orkin’s Bed Bug City List. 
 

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/chicago-takes-another-top-spot-for-pests-this-time-ranking-1-on-orkins-bed-bug-cities-list-301456642.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axioslocal_columbus&stream=top

For the best places to live and work as a moviemaker, outside of NY and LA, Albuquerque got the #1 spot, followed by Toronto, then Atlanta. CLE is #12.

 

 

Best Places to Live and Work as a Moviemaker in 2022

January 25, 2022:

 

"12. Cleveland

Cleveland continues to move up in our ranking because of increasing production activity in the area, thanks to the state’s $40 million commitment to a 30% rebate based on Ohio expenditures for projects that have a minimum $300,000 spend.

Oscar-nominated director Noah Baumbach (Marriage Story) filmed his latest feature White Noise locally in 2021, utilizing the surrounding suburbs as well as the downtown area to bring Don DeLillo’s 1985 novel to life. Nick Jonas was also in town for another Jersey Boys adaptation, and the World War II submarine thriller Operation Seawolf, starring Dolph Lundgren and Frank Grillo, also shot in town. According to the Greater Cleveland Film Commission, approximately $140 million was spent on film productions in the area last year, and an additional $25 million was spent on television productions. The industry will further flourish upon the completion of Cinema City, the vision of local filmmaker Marquette Williams, who is in the process of developing a 150,000-square-foot studio, with four sound stages, that will also double as a fertile training ground for below-the- line talent."

 

https://www.moviemaker.com/best-places-to-live-and-work-as-a-moviemaker-in-2022

 

[cross-posted in CLE film industry thread]

https://savoteur.com/most-iconic-streets/

1 hour ago, freethink said:

https://savoteur.com/most-iconic-streets/

 

They couldn't be bothered to find a decent shot of any of them.

1 hour ago, X said:

 

They couldn't be bothered to find a decent shot of any of them.

 

I know. One was an historic post-card lifted from ebay of the street from 100 yrs ago.

 

One of my favorite urbanist YouTubers just posted a video where he makes a list of 10 cities that he deems 'undervalued.' He based it on a mix of MSA home values, transit use, livability/ameneties, and walk/bike score. *Spoiler* Cleveland comes in at #5, the top ten is as follows:

1. Chicago

2. Philadelphia

3. Pittsburgh

4. New Orleans

5. Cleveland

6. Buffalo

7. Milwaukee

8. St Louis

9. Twin Cities

10. New York City

 

 

Edited May 19, 20223 yr by Balkmusic

2 hours ago, Balkmusic said:

One of my favorite urbanist YouTubers just posted a video where he makes a list of 10 cities that he deems 'underrated.' He based it on a mix of MSA home values, transit use, livability/ameneties, and walk/bike score. *Spoiler* Cleveland comes in at #5, the top ten is as follows:

1. Chicago

2. Philadelphia

3. Pittsburgh

4. New Orleans

5. Cleveland

6. Buffalo

7. Milwaukee

8. St Louis

9. Twin Cities

10. New York City

 

 

 

I could see some of these being underrated, but Chicago?  Philly?  NYC???????  Really?

7 minutes ago, jonoh81 said:

I could see some of these being underrated, but Chicago?  Philly?  NYC???????  Really?

I meant to say 'undervalued' my bad. It's in the title of the video, I'll edit my post.

I wouldn't call it a "dubmb*ss list", but I did compare violent crime rates for every city with populations at or above 250K, so that includes Toledo and the 3 Cs.  I compared 3 years, 2000, 2010 and 2020.

 

https://allcolumbusdata.com/crime-rates-by-city/

3 hours ago, jonoh81 said:

I wouldn't call it a "dubmb*ss list", but I did compare violent crime rates for every city with populations at or above 250K, so that includes Toledo and the 3 Cs.  I compared 3 years, 2000, 2010 and 2020.

 

https://allcolumbusdata.com/crime-rates-by-city/

JFC Cleveland just can't improve on anything. Meanwhile Cinci gains population and is able to improve it's safety. The hell is with this region

4 hours ago, AsDustinFoxWouldSay said:

JFC Cleveland just can't improve on anything. Meanwhile Cinci gains population and is able to improve it's safety. The hell is with this region

 

To be fair to Cleveland, total violent crimes haven't increased a ton over the 2000-2020 period, going from 6041 to 6294.  The issue is that this is the opposite of most cities, which saw general declines.  It also doesn't help that Cleveland's population has been dropping, meaning there are more violent crimes in a decreasing population, so the rate is going up more than it would in a growing city.  

Meanwhile, Cincinnati fell from 2783 to 2725 and Columbus went from 5998 to 5065.  Toledo went from 2380 to 2729, by far the worst performance of any of Ohio's cities in total and % change.  

 

And Cleveland and Toledo's performance doesn't seem to match other Rust Belt cities.  Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Chicago, Detroit, etc. all had substantial declines in their totals and rates. The only other city in the region that didn't was Milwaukee, so I'm not sure what's going on with those in particular.  

How about a ranking of states? Once again, Ohio falls near the bottom of the list. But corrupt Ohio leaders keep trying to bribe young people to come here. Why would they want to join these sedentary losers?

 

Healthiest States Index: Where does Ohio rank?

 

- Ohio is the #40 healthiest state in the US, according to a new study that measures behavior, fitness infrastructure and health status factors;
- It has 20.5% smokers, 17.2% binge drinkers, 35.5% obese and 47.8% aerobically active adults;
- The District of Columbia is the healthiest jurisdiction in the US, scoring top marks for all fitness infrastructure indicators and the highest recommended daily intake rate of fruits;
- Adults in Mississippi, Kentucky and West Virginia are the unhealthiest US residents, consuming some of the lowest quantities of fruits and vegetables, topping the smokers' charts, while only 1 in 4 adults work out twice a week.

 

Ohio is the #40 healthiest state in the US. This is according to a new study that ranks all US states and the District of Columbia against 13 contributing factors.

The Healthiest States Index, published by fitness advice platform BarBend (https://barbend.com/), uses the latest available data from the US Census and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), published between 2015 and 2022, for residents of the US aged 18 and over. It ranks 51 US jurisdictions based on three main pillars: lifestyle behavior, weighing 55% of the ranking; health status (25%); and available fitness infrastructure (20%).

 

47.8% of the adult population in Ohio is aerobically active for the recommended minimum of 150 minutes per week. As for those who work out to strengthen their muscles at least twice a week, 29.2% of adults living in Ohio do so.

 

To put this in context, on average, 50.3% of all adult US residents meet their minimum 150 minutes of moderate intensity physical activity per week, 75 minutes of vigorous intensity aerobic activity or an equivalent combination. Meanwhile 30.5% of them work out to build muscle at least twice a week.

 

Only 10.6% of adults in Ohio eat the recommended amount of fruit every day, compared to 12.2% across the country. As for vegetables, while only 9.3% of all US residents aged 18 and over consume their daily recommended intake, 6.9% in Ohio do so.

 

35.5% of adults in Ohio are obese. In fact, 31.9% of the adult population in the US is considered obese, measured in terms of a Body Mass Index (BMI) factor of 30 or more. 20.5% of adults in Ohio smoke, compared to the US average of 16.6%, and 17.2% of Ohio residents binge drink, while the national median stands at 17.4%.

 

When it comes to chronic diseases, such as depression, cancer, high blood pressure, diabetes or arthritis, to name a few, Ohio counts 81,979 occurrences in total, which may overlap in some adults. CDC data from March 2021 indicates that 61.14% of Ohio residents have an excellent or a very good health status, while 4.64028776978417% are classed as being in a poor health state. For comparison, the national average for those with an excellent or a very good health status is 63.68%, whereas those with a poor health status average to 2.69% across all states.

 

The fitness infrastructure in Ohio is made up of 1232 fitness and recreational sports centers, meaning that there are 13.5 fitness establishments per 100,000 adults. The national mean average stands at 11.89, with only nine states falling below this. There are also 276.58 fitness employees for every 100,000 adults in Ohio, compared to 306.57 nationwide, reflecting the demand for fitness services in this state.

 

Researchers at BarBend also looked at how many adults have at least one park nearby, for those preferring a more nature-immersed workout. The study found that 41.4% of adults in Ohio can get to a park within 0.5 miles, compared to other states, where the average stands at 46.4%.

 

A spokesperson for BarBend commented on the findings: "Overall, low fruit and vegetable intake is a problem for all states, which indicates that there is room for improvement policy-wise at national level. Ohio came in at number 40 largely as a result of its residents' habits.

 

"Some states have ideal fitness infrastructures, which could have been influenced by the demand for such services there, while others simply quit smoking and kept moderately active and that was enough to propel them among the healthiest states in the country.

 

"In places where the natural infrastructure is in place for as little as a walk in the nearby park every week, adopting a healthier lifestyle can become much easier.

 

"It is worth mentioning that social and economic factors play an important part in how healthy individuals are, but this research demonstrates that there are considerable differences in the fitness infrastructure and behaviors across the US."

 

Here is how all the states in the US and the District of Columbia ranked in BarBend's Healthiest States Index:

 

1

District of Columbia

2

Utah

3

New Jersey

4

Colorado

5

California

6

Massachusetts

7

Connecticut

8

Washington

9

Maryland

10

Vermont

11

Oregon

12

Hawaii

13

Alaska

14

New York

15

New Hampshire

16

Arizona

17

Nevada

18

Rhode Island

19

Idaho

20

Minnesota

21

Florida

22

Illinois

23

New Mexico

24

Wyoming

25

Maine

26

Montana

27

Virginia

28

Delaware

29

Wisconsin

30

Pennsylvania

31

Texas

32

Nebraska

33

Georgia

34

North Carolina

35

North Dakota

36

Kansas

37

Michigan

38

Indiana

39

Tennessee

40

Ohio

41

Missouri

42

Iowa

43

South Carolina

44

South Dakota

45

Louisiana

46

Oklahoma

47

Alabama

48

Arkansas

49

Mississippi

50

Kentucky

51

West Virginia

The District of Columbia is the healthiest US jurisdiction. It scored top points for all fitness infrastructure indicators, which includes fitness employees and establishments per 100,000 adults and available parks within 0.5 miles. DC residents also ranked first in terms of eating their daily recommended amount of fruit, but not so much when it comes to vegetables.

Adults in Mississippi, Kentucky and West Virginia are the unhealthiest US residents. They consume some of the lowest quantities of fruits and vegetables, are among the heaviest smokers in the country and only 1 in 4 of them work out twice a week. Interestingly, heavy drinking is not an issue in these three states, but chronic diseases are, where they rank among the country's top 10 worst states on record.

BarBend is a Nashville-based independent online platform sharing strength sports and fitness news, product reviews, and expert advice on strength training and athletics, fitness and nutrition.

 

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Notes for Editors:
- If you use this story, please credit and link with dofollow to https://barbend.com/ who commissioned this study. 
 

2021 NIELSEN DMA RANKINGS are out!  Yay??!?!?

 

https://oaaa.org/Portals/0/Public PDFs/OAAA 2021 NIELSEN DMA Rankings Report.pdf

 

For DMA Map reference: https://thevab.com/storage/app/media/Toolkit/DMA_Map_2019.pdf

i bring the good news, even though they have lightened up recently while floundering everybody's favorite cleveland h8tr list making magazine is up for sale -- screw you olden media lol:

 

 

Forbes said to explore sale - NYT

 

Yuvraj Malik  Reuters

AUG 2, 2022 2:06PM EDT

 

 

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/forbes-said-to-explore-sale-nyt-0

I mean, I've always thought Ohio and the Dakotas were the least "Midwest" states and apparently, yeah...

 

The most Midwestern things on Earth, according to data

 

On their way from renting out an air mattress to building a $60 billion-plus community-upending, rent-scrambling juggernaut, Airbnb’s founders presumably devoted zero effort to drawing the ultimate map of American culture.

 

But they did it. Purely as a byproduct of their venture-backed ambition.

...

First, we had to — once and for all — define the Midwest.

 

Airbnb makes this easy. There are 12 states with listings that mention “Midwest” to an unusual degree. They trace the outline of a relatively expansive region running from the foothills of the Appalachians to the fertile central Great Plains.

 

Detailed maps hint that folks in the hilly Appalachian strip of southeastern Ohio and the arid western steppe of Nebraska and the Dakotas might not consider themselves as Midwestern as their friends in the Corn Belt, but Airbnb does not have enough data to categorically exclude them. Of all the non-Midwestern states, Oklahoma comes closest to making the cut (even when we exclude mentions of Midwest City, an Oklahoma City suburb). But it’s only half as Midwestern as Ohio or South Dakota, and less than a fifth as Midwestern as Iowa.

 

More below:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/07/29/airbnb-the-most-midwestern-things/

 

Personally, I see the Cleveland area as part Midwest, part East Coast.  The Eastside of the CLE area is more East Coast while the Westside seems a little more Midwest than East Coast.

well this aint good -- via tracking cellphone use i think --

 

cle is a leader in the death of downtowns ... and cols is a leader in the rebirth:

 

 

 

The death of downtown: San Francisco, Cleveland and Portland have seen activity drop by almost 50 percent - as soaring crime in the Democrat-run cities forces workers, tourists and homeowners away

 

By RONNY REYES FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

PUBLISHED: 02:22 EDT, 19 August 2022 | UPDATED: 08:46 EDT, 19 August 2022

 

 

***

 

Cleveland's downtown activity was down to 36 percent, a blow to the city making strides to fight back decade high crime rates and giving police more leeway to crack down on crime

 

***

 

Meanwhile, cities like Salt Lake City, Utah, Bakersfield, California and Columbus Ohio are enjoying the fastest comeback, seeing their downtown activity go up by more than 110 percent since 2019. 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11126101/Portland-San-Francisco-Cleveland-Americas-deserted-downtown-areas.html

 

 

Quote

City leaders say downtown Cleveland is recovering with commuters coming back the slowest

 

Published: Aug. 20, 2022, 5:30 a.m.

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio — If a healthy downtown sits on a three-legged stool — supported by residents, nightlife and commuters — downtown Cleveland is wobbly, but improving, as it emerges from the COVID-19 pandemic.

 

Local officials say downtown is recovering much faster than is indicated by a national study, which looked at only part of downtown.

 

--------------------

 

A report from Institute of Governmental Studies at the University of California Berkeley, which looked at 62 cities, pegged downtown Cleveland as one of the slowest to recover, ahead of only San Francisco. But it didn’t look at all of Cleveland’s downtown.

 

Deemer said, and researchers confirmed, that the study only looked at the 44114 Zip Code, which is mostly area north of Euclid Avenue and east of Public Square. It didn’t include the JACK Cleveland Casino, Rocket Mortgage FieldHouse or the Warehouse District.

 

Their definition of Downtown Cleveland is insanely bad.

12 minutes ago, X said:

 

 

Their definition of Downtown Cleveland is insanely bad.

I believe they only included 44114

1 hour ago, mrnyc said:

well this aint good -- via tracking cellphone use i think --

 

cle is a leader in the death of downtowns ... and cols is a leader in the rebirth:

 

 

 

The death of downtown: San Francisco, Cleveland and Portland have seen activity drop by almost 50 percent - as soaring crime in the Democrat-run cities forces workers, tourists and homeowners away

 

By RONNY REYES FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

PUBLISHED: 02:22 EDT, 19 August 2022 | UPDATED: 08:46 EDT, 19 August 2022

 

 

***

 

Cleveland's downtown activity was down to 36 percent, a blow to the city making strides to fight back decade high crime rates and giving police more leeway to crack down on crime

 

***

 

Meanwhile, cities like Salt Lake City, Utah, Bakersfield, California and Columbus Ohio are enjoying the fastest comeback, seeing their downtown activity go up by more than 110 percent since 2019. 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11126101/Portland-San-Francisco-Cleveland-Americas-deserted-downtown-areas.html

 

Lmao silly Daily Mail. Not sure what kind of point the writer is trying to make, since Cbus is also a “Democrat-run city.”

8 minutes ago, amped91 said:

Lmao silly Daily Mail. Not sure what kind of point the writer is trying to make, since Cbus is also a “Democrat-run city.”

Every large city in America except Jacksonville is Democrat-run.

^OKC too.

Bakersfield, CA...Fresno CA????

 

Another "national" outfit STILL propagating the same 'ole Mistake-on-the-Lake stuff...Will they ever learn that Downtown Cleveland is coming has come back??  🙄

Saw this in my e-mail this AM from https://totalshape.com/ (I got this e-mail because of my blog, not because I'm a gym rat). But I don't see it posted on their site yet....

 

Revealed: Cleveland, Ohio, is the third cheapest area for a gym membership

 

 

New analysis reveals that Mesa, Arizona, is the cheapest area in the US for a gym membership. The research, conducted by fitness resource totalshape.com analysed data from cost-of-living site Numbeo to discover the average price of a gym membership across a list of 80 US cities.

 

Mesa, Arizona, is cheapest area of the US for a gym membership. The average monthly fee for one adult in Mesa is $18.29 per month: $26.69 less than the country’s average of $44.98.

 

Placing second is Memphis, Tennessee with an average monthly cost of $22.44.

 

Cleveland, Ohio, ranks as the third cheapest area in the US for a gym membership. Residents in this area pay $23.11 per month, on average.

 

 

The London-based Financial Times today ranked 89 US cities for attractiveness for foreign investment. Among the top 20 were more-or-less peer cities Kansas City, Pittsburgh,  and St. Louis.  Columbus ranked 31st, Cleveland 35th, and Cincinnati 39th.

 

While these rankings are always to some extent subjective, the FT's criteria seemed fairly reasonable, except for the squishy "livability"; so there's work to be done.  The C's need to be in the 20's at least to get any attention from  the FT's international audience.

People curse most frequently in Columbus.
 

https://www.nbc4i.com/news/local-news/columbus/well-columbus-most-foul-mouthed-city-in-us/

I suppose this could go here

 

 

1 hour ago, KJP said:

I suppose this could go here

 

 

YouGov surveys pay you for completion. The faster you fill it out, the faster you get money. People often do this by just selecting 50% as the default number. Notice how numbers added up don't make sense and how everything skews towards the middle.

7 minutes ago, tykaps said:

YouGov surveys pay you for completion. The faster you fill it out, the faster you get money. People often do this by just selecting 50% as the default number. Notice how numbers added up don't make sense and how everything skews towards the middle.

I know nothing about how YouGov operates, but I would assume they have some methods to remove obvious cases like this. Whether it tracks how long you spend, or the variations in your responses, I don't know. But I assume they would have some safeguards.

 

One of the main causes for the approach to 50% is that anyone who guesses an accurate number for a low value number is countered by someone who guesses a high value. A "median" guess would probably be more accurate assessment of the public's opinion.

 

Maybe they don't have these safeguards, but I would guess they do. And some of the data is going to look really bad just based on the nature of an "average" response for things that are at the extremes on either end.

So Americans think Jews make up 30% of the population? I think that says more about just how clueless most Americans are about most things than Jews specifically. I'm constantly amazed when I'm having a conversation with someone and what l thought was common knowledge completely escapes them.