November 8, 20222 yr Basic numeracy is a problem, people tend not to have a good sense of numbers. Not being able to properly assess frequencies near the 0-10 / 90-100 ranges is a symptom of that. Hence why nearly all the guessed percentages are closer to 50% than the reality.
February 8, 20232 yr I'm skeptical of this list, but it's a pretty good article. Worth a read. https://usa.streetsblog.org/2023/02/07/americas-most-equitably-walkable-city-is-cleveland/
February 8, 20232 yr While not a ranking of cities, it is a list and a ranking -- of worst-to-first GCRTA stations. Good arguments and entertaining! 12 hours ago, roman totale XVII said: Some quality Reddit content https://www.reddit.com/r/Cleveland/comments/10w9kcz/every_rta_station_ranked/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 8, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, KJP said: While not a ranking of cities, it is a list and a ranking -- of worst-to-first GCRTA stations. Good arguments and entertaining! It is well written, and not far off the mark on most of them!
February 10, 20232 yr ohio #32 state for most educated? https://foodies1st.com/post/376/the-most-educated-states-ranked?gclid=Cj0KCQiA54KfBhCKARIsAJzSrdr5lzj9-pZ2jesTxedHk0Xow9j8oZbQAswQntRukxEoYXhCAq71ueUaAvnjEALw_wcB&al=1
February 25, 20232 yr a very minnesotan view of the usa -- dead malls, drumlines and a cool amusement park for ohio. :) via u/Hascerflef/Reddit
February 25, 20232 yr more states vs states -- if states were sized by population density -- via StarboardCapsized/Reddit equal population -- orange to red via Cogo5646/Reddit tree cover to farmland -- usa has 8% of the world's forests via DrWendigo/Reddit
April 4, 20232 yr health rankings -- for ohio cinci is healthiest and toledo unhealthiest -- Unhealthiest cities in America: Southern states dominate the list, according to experts APRIL 3, 2023 by Chris Melore WASHINGTON — Where you live can play a big role in how healthy you are. While some cities invest heavily to make sure the public doesn’t get sick, that’s not the case everywhere in the United States. A new study finds many U.S. cities are falling behind when it comes to health and wellness — especially those in the southern part of the nation. The WalletHub study of the country’s 182 most populated cities finds Brownsville, Texas ranks as the unhealthiest city in America. more: https://studyfinds.org/unhealthiest-cities-in-america/
April 6, 20232 yr Report Ranks America’s 15 Safest (And Most Dangerous) Cities For 2023 https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurabegleybloom/2023/01/31/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-us-crime-in-america/?sh=569267374b25 15 Most Dangerous Cities in the US 1. St. Louis, Missouri 2. Mobile, Alabama 3. Birmingham, Alabama 4. Baltimore, Maryland 5. Memphis, Tennessee 6. Detroit, Michigan 7. Cleveland, Ohio 8. New Orleans, Louisiana 9. Shreveport, Louisiana 10. Baton Rouge, Louisiana 11. Little Rock, Arkansas 12. Oakland, California 13. Milwaukee, Wisconsin 14. Kansas City, Missouri 15. Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 15 Safest Large Cities in the US (with a population over 300,000) 1. Honolulu, Hawaii 2. Virginia Beach, Virginia 3. Henderson, Nevada 4. El Paso, Texas 5. New York City 6. San Diego, California 7. Mesa, Arizona 8. Charlotte, North Carolina 9. San Jose, California 10. Boston, Massachusetts 11. Raleigh, North Carolina 12. Arlington, Texas 13. Santa Ana, California 14. Omaha, Nebraska 15. Austin, Texas "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 6, 20232 yr I spent a few days in Los Angeles a couple weeks ago, and it's mind boggling to me how we have a higher crime rate than they do. L.A. is a cool town, but holy cow, there's lots of sketchy places there way beyond anything we have here in Cleveland.
April 6, 20232 yr 15 minutes ago, LlamaLawyer said: I spent a few days in Los Angeles a couple weeks ago, and it's mind boggling to me how we have a higher crime rate than they do. L.A. is a cool town, but holy cow, there's lots of sketchy places there way beyond anything we have here in Cleveland. City based crime rates are not good measures for comparison. MSA would be better for comparison.
April 6, 20232 yr It also depends on where the crime is. If crime is occuring near tourist or business areas the city will be perceived as having higher crime. If it only occurs in neighborhoods only visited by residents the perception won't match the stats.
April 6, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, Ethan said: It also depends on where the crime is. If crime is occuring near tourist or business areas the city will be perceived as having higher crime. If it only occurs in neighborhoods only visited by residents the perception won't match the stats. We just got back from a long weekend in New Orleans, which is next to Cleveland in the stats. Talking to some locals there, it seemed like in NO most of the issues are hyper-focused in small areas. We didn’t feel unsafe at all, which is definitely not the same as my last visit there in the late 90s. On that trip it felt like a couple of blocks of the French Quarter were the only safe parts of the city. My hovercraft is full of eels
April 7, 20232 yr 5 hours ago, roman totale XVII said: We just got back from a long weekend in New Orleans, which is next to Cleveland in the stats. Talking to some locals there, it seemed like in NO most of the issues are hyper-focused in small areas. We didn’t feel unsafe at all, which is definitely not the same as my last visit there in the late 90s. On that trip it felt like a couple of blocks of the French Quarter were the only safe parts of the city. Even then though, the French Quarter can get a bit sketchy. Maybe I'm just used to Cleveland's geography but I feel like places liek E4 and the Flats are pretty tame when it comes to things like panhandling. In the French Quarter, I was pretty much followed daily by an aggressive panhandler for atleast a block when I refused to give them anything. Not to mention Bourbon street I saw a good amount of homeless people literally fighting each other, not to mention we would be asked numerous times by dealers if we wanted to buy coke. Not unheard of for tourists or just bar hoppers to get robbed or assaulted there either.
April 24, 20232 yr On 4/6/2023 at 5:50 PM, Ethan said: It also depends on where the crime is. If crime is occuring near tourist or business areas the city will be perceived as having higher crime. If it only occurs in neighborhoods only visited by residents the perception won't match the stats. not always tho. ie., noone visits southside chicago, but its crime gets a lot of hype, rightly so, and so chi is seen as a high crime city. of course chicago also trys to steer it like thats the only area crime occurs in the city too. in contrast, cle crime, while is has its concentrations, always seems to be more evenly scattered and is probably more hurtful to both reality and perceptions, but both cities get a bad rap.
April 26, 20232 yr Downtown Columbus is the 4th most recovered from Covid. Apparently out of 63 North American cities. Cincinnati is 32nd. Cleveland 58th. warning; not mobile-friendly: https://downtownrecovery.com/dashboards/recovery_ranking.html
April 26, 20232 yr On 4/24/2023 at 8:51 AM, mrnyc said: not always tho. ie., noone visits southside chicago, but its crime gets a lot of hype, rightly so, and so chi is seen as a high crime city. of course chicago also trys to steer it like thats the only area crime occurs in the city too. in contrast, cle crime, while is has its concentrations, always seems to be more evenly scattered and is probably more hurtful to both reality and perceptions, but both cities get a bad rap. I'm out of the direct information loop now, since I don't work at the bar any more. As of a few years ago, the bulk of Cleveland homicide seems to be related to gangs and the associated drug trade. The bulk of violent crime seems to be as well, but the victims (intentional and accidental) tend to live in the areas where drug trade happens. This includes carjackings, which other than homicide are the highest profile crimes as far as the media is concerned. If one preys on someone in a gang's "territory", that's as bad as selling there if not worse. You have much more to fear from the gang than the police. The exception is when gangs are fighting over territory, in said territory.
April 26, 20232 yr Also should be a "warning" disclaimer that the downtown definition for Cleveland is laughably inaccurate. This geographical definition has been cited over the last few years every quarter and it completely excludes major parts of downtown. Not sure how to get someone to change the geographical boundaries.
April 26, 20232 yr 17 minutes ago, bwheats said: Also should be a "warning" disclaimer that the downtown definition for Cleveland is laughably inaccurate. This geographical definition has been cited over the last few years every quarter and it completely excludes major parts of downtown. Not sure how to get someone to change the geographical boundaries. It goes by zip code. Since zip code boundaries haven't changed it's still an accurate representation of before and after COVID.
April 26, 20232 yr 30 minutes ago, aderwent said: It goes by zip code. Since zip code boundaries haven't changed it's still an accurate representation of before and after COVID. No, it's not. It's an accurate representation of the zip code in question, not downtown as a whole. If you want an accurate representation of how downtown has recovered you need to measure downtown. This is why downtownrecovery.com's figures are off by a factor of two compared to the Downtown Cleveland Alliance (who uses a different third party agency to collect this data). DCA is actually measuring downtown (plus a bit extra tbh), downtown recovery is mostly measuring the recovery of empty warehouses. The little bit of the downtown core they do get is exclusively parts of the CBD, including several buildings currently being renovated. They are ignoring all the residential, entertainment, and "hot" areas of downtown. If they insist on using one zip code for downtown, they have the wrong one This "study" is laughable, at least for Cleveland, and should not be taken seriously.
April 26, 20232 yr 11 minutes ago, Ethan said: No, it's not. It's an accurate representation of the zip code in question, not downtown as a whole. If you want an accurate representation of how downtown has recovered you need to measure downtown. This is why downtownrecovery.com's figures are off by a factor of two compared to the Downtown Cleveland Alliance (who uses a different third party agency to collect this data). DCA is actually measuring downtown (plus a bit extra tbh), downtown recovery is mostly measuring the recovery of empty warehouses. The little bit of the downtown core they do get is exclusively parts of the CBD, including several buildings currently being renovated. They are ignoring all the residential, entertainment, and "hot" areas of downtown. If they insist on using one zip code for downtown, they have the wrong one This "study" is laughable, at least for Cleveland, and should not be taken seriously. I didn't say the downtown was accurate. I said the comparison within the zip code was accurate. 44113 is mostly outside of downtown so it wouldn't be accurate either. Also, 44114 is more than half of downtown so this metric is most certainly not off by a factor of two.
April 26, 20232 yr 33 minutes ago, aderwent said: 44114 is more than half of downtown Which is probably exactly their reasoning, and if you are only looking at a map and haven't spent any time in Cleveland this makes sense. Here's the report from Downtown Cleveland Alliance which has been tracking foot traffic since before the pandemic. According to this we are about 82% recovered. As someone who lives downtown, that number feels more accurate than 44%. https://downtowncleveland.com/s/DCA-Year-in-Review-2022.pdf Now I'm full send on their numbers either, they are an inherently biased organization, but they are at least covering all of downtown. Even if we assume they are slightly inflating things though, it's still way higher than the study you presented. 43 minutes ago, aderwent said: 58 minutes ago, Ethan said: I didn't say the downtown was accurate. I said the comparison within the zip code was accurate. You may not have, the study certainly does, or at least presents the information in that way, by: listing cities, comparing them to each other, and calling it downtown recovery. Anyway, this study is appropriately placed given the thread title, it's not worth discussing further.
May 5, 20232 yr ohio ranks #9 obese? i dk, i been around a bit and that seems too high. 9. Ohio Obesity rate: 37.5% Public health ranking: 42 Health care ranking: 29 Overall Best States ranking: 34 more: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/slideshows/the-most-obese-states-in-america?slide=3
May 6, 20232 yr covid recoveries ... according to mobile device connectivity data: Greatest Recoveries 1.) Salt Lake City, Utah - 139% 2.) Bakersfield, Calif. - 118% 3.) Fresno, Calif. - 115% 4.) Columbus, Ohio - 109% 5.) El Paso, Tex - 106% 6.) Albuquerque, NM - 98% 7.) Baltimore, Md. - 93% 8.) San Diego, Calif. - 93% 9.) Honolulu, Haw. - 84% 10.) Tampa, Fl. - 84% And the slowest to come back... 53.) Montreal, Quebec - 47% 54.) Philadelphia, Penn. - 47% 55.) Toronto, Ontario - 47% 56.) Kansas City, Mo. - 47% 57.) Oakland, Calif. - 47% 58.) Cleveland, Ohio - 44% 59.) Minneapolis, Minn. - 41% 60.) Indianapolis, Ind. - 41% 61.) Portland, Ore. - 40% 62.) St Louis, Mo. - 38% 63.) San Francisco, Calif. -32% more: http://downtownrecovery.com/dashboards/recovery_ranking.html
May 12, 20232 yr forbes best places to retire 2023 -- cinci and the pitts make the list --- Best Places To Retire In 2023: Pittsburgh And Other Affordable Hot Spots William P. Barrett Contributor I Cover Personal Finance, Taxes, Retirement, Nonprofits, Scandals And Other Stuff Cincinnati, Ohio Hilly Ohio River city of 313,000 in state’s southwest corner. Pros: Median home price just $223,000, 41% below national median. Overall cost of living 13% below national average. No state income tax on Social Security. No state estate tax. Good climate and air quality. Plenty of doctors. Moderate natural hazard risk. Cons: Serious crime above national average. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania City of 302,000 with multiple rivers (Allegheny, Monongahela, Ohio) and multiple colleges (including Carnegie Mellon University, the University of Pittsburgh, and Duquesne University). Pros: Median home price just $219,000, 42% below national median. Lots of doctors. Very bikeable and walkable, with air quality much improved and three seasons of comfortable climate. No state income tax on Social Security or most retirement income. Cons: Serious crime rate above national average. Cold winters. State inheritance tax hits whole estate and all heirs, other than spouse. more: https://www.forbes.com/sites/williampbarrett/2023/05/12/best-places-to-retire-in-2023-pittsburgh-and-other-affordable-hot-spots/?sh=56e0164e2cf9
May 12, 20232 yr List of the twenty most affordable major cities in the USA. Spoiler alert: all three of the big C's make the list. Any guesses as to what's number one?
May 12, 20232 yr Surprised to see Cbus at #15. Starting to slowly get expensive here relative to the Midwest.
May 16, 20232 yr Best places to live in Ohio: Cincinnati ranked above Columbus, Cleveland by U.S. News https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2023/05/16/us-news-best-places-to-live-2023-cincinnati-ohio/70222403007/
May 17, 20232 yr 22 hours ago, 646empire said: Best places to live in Ohio: Cincinnati ranked above Columbus, Cleveland by U.S. News https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2023/05/16/us-news-best-places-to-live-2023-cincinnati-ohio/70222403007/ You know it’s a dumb list when they have youngstown above cleveland. No offense to Youngstown but I’ve lived in both and there is no comparison. Edited May 17, 20232 yr by cle_guy90
May 17, 20232 yr Green Bay, WI is #1 on the list, FYI. My company HQ isthere and I have spent untold months of my life there over the past 20 years. I know the place too well. It is so far from #1.... It's actual rank is probably #8,000. Terrible list!
May 18, 20232 yr On 5/17/2023 at 11:19 AM, eyehrtfood said: Green Bay, WI is #1 on the list, FYI. My company HQ isthere and I have spent untold months of my life there over the past 20 years. I know the place too well. It is so far from #1.... It's actual rank is probably #8,000. Terrible list! These lists that are usually provided by the main$tream media, are misleading in many ways. They usually show no love for Cleveland and can hurt Cleveland's reputation. IMHO, these M$M ranksters don't know jack about how Cleveland's transformation to a gem over the past decade.
May 18, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, DHubb said: These lists that are usually provided by the main$tream media, are misleading in many ways. They usually show no love for Cleveland and can hurt Cleveland's reputation. IMHO, these M$M ranksters don't know jack about how Cleveland's transformation to a gem over the past decade. Found one of the reasons why. For everything they provided stats for the msa which makes sense. But for whatever reason they took the unemployment rate of the city which is why it is over 9% and why cleveland has an insanely bad rating for jobs/economy in the rankings.
May 18, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, DHubb said: They usually show no love for Cleveland and can hurt Cleveland's reputation. This part. Perception means a lot. As much as we hate these “dumb” rankings, you definitely do not want to be at the bottom, the bad press does have a big impact.
May 19, 20232 yr 23 hours ago, 646empire said: This part. Perception means a lot. As much as we hate these “dumb” rankings, you definitely do not want to be at the bottom, the bad press does have a big impact. Unfortunately yes...ugh!
May 20, 20232 yr On 5/17/2023 at 11:19 AM, eyehrtfood said: Green Bay, WI is #1 on the list, FYI. My company HQ isthere and I have spent untold months of my life there over the past 20 years. I know the place too well. It is so far from #1.... It's actual rank is probably #8,000. Terrible list! i don't care what kind of packers fan you are, this opinion is clearly UNBREAKABLY INFORMED AND HEARTFELT -- i can freakin feel it! 😂 it's superbly funny to see when people know rando places so dam well like that.
May 20, 20232 yr On 5/18/2023 at 1:41 PM, 646empire said: This part. Perception means a lot. As much as we hate these “dumb” rankings, you definitely do not want to be at the bottom, the bad press does have a big impact. for sure, buuuuut, i would hardly call most of these listicles press. to me press implies a professional or i guess these days an old school legacy if there are any news agency with editors, content and fact checkers and the like. today its more like very low paid young people filling the voracious intenet content mouth with steaming piles of whatever.
May 21, 20232 yr another list re college graduates — methodology is they looked at the census — Best place for post college grads: 1. Lubbock 13. Akron Most affordable: 1. El Paso 2. Canton-Massillon 3. Youngstown-Warren-Boardman Best for Jobs: 1. Kennewick-Richland Best for Fun: 1. Missoula more: https://smartasset.com/data-studies/best-places-new-college-grads-2023
May 21, 20232 yr 21 hours ago, mrnyc said: for sure, buuuuut, i would hardly call most of these listicles press. to me press implies a professional or i guess these days an old school legacy if there are any news agency with editors, content and fact checkers and the like. today its more like very low paid young people filling the voracious intenet content mouth with steaming piles of whatever. This is the truth here. These lists are a hoot. Edited May 21, 20232 yr by Toddguy
May 22, 20232 yr On 5/20/2023 at 1:07 PM, mrnyc said: for sure, buuuuut, i would hardly call most of these listicles press. to me press implies a professional or i guess these days an old school legacy if there are any news agency with editors, content and fact checkers and the like. today its more like very low paid young people filling the voracious intenet content mouth with steaming piles of whatever. You do realize when these “Dumb Lists” come out they are then picked up and re published by the Press* who makes stories out of them which is how most of the public sees it to begin with as seen above that was my point lol. Edited May 22, 20232 yr by 646empire
May 25, 20232 yr This is the best list I have seen The Cities with the Rudest Kids (According to Their Residents)
May 26, 20232 yr Not sure if anyone has seen this, but Cincinnati came in at #6 for parks according to the Trust for Public Land: https://www.tpl.org/parkscore 1. Washington, DC 2. St Paul 3. Minneapolis 4. Irvine, CA 5. Arlington, VA 6. Cincinnati 7. San Francisco 8. Seattle 9. Portland 10. (tie) NYC/Boston If you consider that Minneapolis and St Paul, and DC and Arlington are effectively the same city, Cincinnati actually comes in as having the fourth-best parks in the country! Edited May 26, 20232 yr by BigDipper 80 “To an Ohio resident - wherever he lives - some other part of his state seems unreal.”
June 10, 20232 yr here is a top ranking list for venture capital investment and ohio cities are not on it, but nashville is now — https://www.ey.com/en_us/growth/venture-capital/q1-2023-venture-capital-investment-trends
June 10, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, mrnyc said: here is a top ranking list for venture capital investment and ohio cities are not on it, but nashville is now — https://www.ey.com/en_us/growth/venture-capital/q1-2023-venture-capital-investment-trends It’s hard to find numbers for anywhere in Ohio, for this year, at least for me. I found stuff from last year. Do you have any info on Ohio investment?
June 11, 20232 yr 17 hours ago, VintageLife said: It’s hard to find numbers for anywhere in Ohio, for this year, at least for me. I found stuff from last year. Do you have any info on Ohio investment? i wish that had listed more than the top ten cities. i see from this columbus-based link below all of ohio was looking at $1.8B in vc, with columbus fully half of that. that puts columbus on a par for vc with san diego, dc, denver and phoenix on the other list: https://columbusregion.com/content-hub-article/ohio-venture-capital-is-on-the-rise/ edit — whoops maybe not, because i believe the ohio info is annual vc and the other list was for quarterly vc, so that would put even columbus well behind the vc leaders. Edited June 11, 20232 yr by mrnyc
July 12, 20231 yr oh geez — ! 🙀 SOCIETY & CULTURE NEWS Most Stressed U.S. Cities: Cleveland, Detroit top the list in 2023 by Chris Melore JULY 11, 2023 WASHINGTON — Stress can come in many forms, from your wallet to your place of work. Even with the COVID-19 pandemic in the rearview mirror, Americans are now dealing with constant concerns about inflation and violent crime. In some major cities, a new survey finds that unhealthy stress is reaching a breaking point. A team from WalletHub finds that a staggering 83 percent of Americans currently feel stressed out about inflation. As homicide rates spike throughout the nation, another three in four people admit that violence and crime in their neighborhoods are also stressing them out. *** Cleveland hits rock bottom Their findings reveal that Americans living in Cleveland, Ohio are the most stressed in the entire country. Overall, Cleveland was far and away the leader in terms of stress, ranking first in financial stress, second in health and safety stress, and third in family stress. According to the 2023 study, Cleveland has the nation’s second-highest poverty rate (behind Detroit) and the highest divorce rate. Residents also get the second-fewest hours of sleep each night, again only behind Detroit. more: https://studyfinds.org/most-stressed-us-cities/
July 12, 20231 yr 5 minutes ago, mrnyc said: SOCIETY & CULTURE NEWS Most Stressed U.S. Cities: Cleveland, Detroit top the list in 2023 I read this right after reading that Harvard's behavioral psychologist Francesca Gino has had to withdrawn four papers after being accused of faking the data. She denies all, of course. Still, it made me a little skeptical. Skeptical enough to wonder why WalletHub would be doing stress analysis? Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
July 12, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, mrnyc said: oh geez — ! 🙀 SOCIETY & CULTURE NEWS Most Stressed U.S. Cities: Cleveland, Detroit top the list in 2023 by Chris Melore JULY 11, 2023 WASHINGTON — Stress can come in many forms, from your wallet to your place of work. Even with the COVID-19 pandemic in the rearview mirror, Americans are now dealing with constant concerns about inflation and violent crime. In some major cities, a new survey finds that unhealthy stress is reaching a breaking point. A team from WalletHub finds that a staggering 83 percent of Americans currently feel stressed out about inflation. As homicide rates spike throughout the nation, another three in four people admit that violence and crime in their neighborhoods are also stressing them out. *** Cleveland hits rock bottom Their findings reveal that Americans living in Cleveland, Ohio are the most stressed in the entire country. Overall, Cleveland was far and away the leader in terms of stress, ranking first in financial stress, second in health and safety stress, and third in family stress. According to the 2023 study, Cleveland has the nation’s second-highest poverty rate (behind Detroit) and the highest divorce rate. Residents also get the second-fewest hours of sleep each night, again only behind Detroit. more: https://studyfinds.org/most-stressed-us-cities/ Seems like it is another list that looks at just the city and not the metro. With our city have such a small percentage of our actual metro size we always look bad in lists like these.
July 12, 20231 yr Fargo is one of the most stress free cities? I must have been watching a different show.
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