1 hour ago, Cleburger said:

If RTA is anything like the city of Cleveland, most of the management is not what they know, rather who they know.   So they are not very effective managers.   I fear any kind of bonus system would turn into a kickback system.  

It comes from the top.  Calabrese was only interested in making "certain" numbers look good so he could get his bonuses, pay raises and extensions.  It didn't matter how much ridership and service dropped, just as long as he got what he felt he deserved, that are the only things that mattered.  Now with Birdsong either operating with the same mindset or being completely disinterested in showing any kind of leadership and delegating actual management to Calabrese's top management leftovers, the end result is the same.  It goes further to the board of trustees.  Bibb, Ronayne and the suburban mayors need to conduct a thorough review of the composition of the trustees and work to get a board comprised of people who truly care about the area's mass transit.  For too many years, the board was quite content to get their benefits (Dixon's "free healthcare" and agency-paid phone, McCall's double-dipping) and seemingly perfectly accepting whatever nonsense that was dished out by Calabrese.  Nobody questioned numbers and once issues were brought up, it was the blame game.  It needs to be a unified effort to get things worked out.  

Anything new regarding the rail car replacement?  There has been no news on this subject for months.

On 11/25/2022 at 10:07 AM, Cleburger said:

If RTA is anything like the city of Cleveland, most of the management is not what they know, rather who they know.   So they are not very effective managers.   I fear any kind of bonus system would turn into a kickback system.  

 

For a government run entity to not operate this way, it requires hard measurable objectives and/or (probably and) leadership willing to say "no" to loud or entrenched power.   I saw some of that from Bibb with the police review board appointees, but it was a pleasant surprise and I remain unconvinced.   Even moreso with Ronayne.

Plans to replace RTA’s rail fleet expected to accelerate in new year

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio – For three years, the Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority has been promising that a new rail fleet is coming, but it hasn’t been able to secure all of the funding it needs or lock in a contractor to move the project forward.

 

That is expected to change next year, Floun’say Caver, RTA’s chief operating officer, says.

 

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2022/12/plans-to-replace-rtas-rail-fleet-expected-to-accelerate-in-new-year.html

 

it's just frustrating that retirement of the fleet should have been scheduled 20 years out and they instead waited until there was desperate needed before they started to secure funding

And is the desire still to have a new unified fleet? I am totally convinced RTA will completely botch this, sadly. 

Jam tomorrow

4 hours ago, Whipjacka said:

it's just frustrating that retirement of the fleet should have been scheduled 20 years out and they instead waited until there was desperate needed before they started to secure funding

Typically, a quality rail car fleet will last about 30-35 years.  Planning should indeed start about 20 years before that projected end-of-life is expected.  Some systems may be able to get extra years by phasing in new fleets and relegating the older fleet to peak-service times only.  They can also add years by adding in major complete overhauls to the fleet.  SEPTA has maintained its 141 Kawasaki rail car fleet where 112 streetcars and 29 Media-Sharon Hill rail cars received excellent complete overhaul extensions.  This is also an example of the benefits of basically having a nearly unified fleet.  Though the two groups, due to the nature of each operation and carbody differences, cannot be exchanged between the rail lines (2 completely separated networks), they are otherwise mechanically identical.  Instead of having a more expensive purchase of two separate fleets, they combined as much as they could to make it basically one fleet.

 

Unfortunately for RTA, the only 20 year scheduling was done by Calabrese and his retirement date.  Though he left with about 1 1/2 years remaining on "his schedule", there was nothing in place to replace the rail fleets.  The cleveland.com article states the rail car replacement program has been going on for about 3 years.  Translated, Birdsong became general manager with nothing in place regarding the purchase of new rail cars.  I believe that this project was far above her head as she did nothing to fast-track the securing of funds to replace the rail cars.  Calabrese knew when he planned to leave RTA, even though that came a bit quicker than his intent, there was nothing in place to get the replacement in place.  He did not care and was perfectly willing to leave the rail fleet situation in shambles and an overall transit system falling apart.  He bolted early when he saw things falling apart internally at RTA.    

Edited December 16, 20222 yr by LifeLongClevelander

So the article says 4-5 years after the contract with the manufacturer is drawn up. Can our current fleet last that long? 

 

Also, @KJP, you've mentioned in the past that RTA is being rigid with their design specs for the rail cars. Do you have any insight if that's still the hold up in discussions with manufacturers? Seems like not a lot of progress there since they had to restart the process back in the spring... 

Not exactly RTA, but close enough:

 

I was perusing a couple RTA bus schedules yesterday, and something struck me.  I hadn't noticed this before, but the schedules had "flat" frequencies throughout most of the day, say every half hour, for example.  There were no higher frequencies during "rush" hours.  I remember from when I used to ride the bus in the 1970's and early 1980's, that there were more frequent trips on trunk/express routes during the morning and afternoon peak hours.  Does this mean that as far as transit is concerned (in Cleveland), rush hour to/from downtown no longer exists, due to changes in employment locations, remote work, etc?  I'd be curious to hear others' comments.

3 minutes ago, urb-a-saurus said:

I was perusing a couple RTA bus schedules yesterday, and something struck me.  I hadn't noticed this before, but the schedules had "flat" frequencies throughout most of the day, say every half hour, for example.  There were no higher frequencies during "rush" hours.  I remember from when I used to ride the bus in the 1970's and early 1980's, that there were more frequent trips on trunk/express routes during the morning and afternoon peak hours.  Does this mean that as far as transit is concerned (in Cleveland), rush hour to/from downtown no longer exists, due to changes in employment locations, remote work, etc?  I'd be curious to hear others' comments.

 

Part of it may be that the vast majority of trips used to have to pass through downtown, and my understanding is that's no longer the case.   But I suspect it's also a "captive audience" thing.

I haven't noticed any changes in the frequency map.

 

https://www.riderta.com/systemmap

1 hour ago, urb-a-saurus said:

I was perusing a couple RTA bus schedules yesterday, and something struck me.  I hadn't noticed this before, but the schedules had "flat" frequencies throughout most of the day, say every half hour, for example.  There were no higher frequencies during "rush" hours.  I remember from when I used to ride the bus in the 1970's and early 1980's, that there were more frequent trips on trunk/express routes during the morning and afternoon peak hours.  Does this mean that as far as transit is concerned (in Cleveland), rush hour to/from downtown no longer exists, due to changes in employment locations, remote work, etc?  I'd be curious to hear others' comments.

Sadly, the lack of greater frequency during rush hours along with express and flyer service is due to RTA losing the working commuter rider base.  The routes no longer support the number of riders to offer more frequent or limited-stop service.  The ridership has basically been reduced to people that for whatever reason, that have no other means to get around.  

 

I recall the #9 express with limited stops going downtown from basically 6:00 am to 6 pm.  #9 flyer service operated with the direction of rush hour flow with even fewer stops.  Peak service frequency was every 7 minutes spanning at least an hour.   Routes like the #7 and #7A would go downtown as express and flyer service during rush hours.  Branches like the #9A offered additional suburban services and #9B would run during rush hours.

 

This degrading of service has been going on for years, long before remote work became more popular. 

 

GCRTA wins grant to build new East 79th Rapid stop
By Ken Prendergast / December 19, 2022

 

Early last year, the Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority (GCRTA) opened a new station at East 79th Street on its Airport-Windermere rail transit Red Line. Late next year, and less than 2,000 feet south, the transit agency could start construction on a new East 79th station on its downtown-Shaker Heights rail transit Blue/Green Lines. Both stations are seen as a key strategy to improve access for everyone to reach job sites being added along the new Opportunity Corridor Boulevard.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blog/2022/12/19/gcrta-wins-grant-to-build-new-east-79th-rapid-stop/

Extremely frustrating after RTA committed to readiness for this storm:

 

 

1 hour ago, Boomerang_Brian said:

Extremely frustrating after RTA committed to readiness for this storm:

 

 

Into the late 1970's and early 1980's, the people in charge of the rail division knew how to get ready for a snow storm.  They had multiple pieces of equipment that could clear snow from the rails.  They would get as much equipment as possible stored under the Terminal Tower to protect them from the elements.  The Shaker lines could store at least 3 dozen if not more of their PCC's in storage tracks.  The CTS heavy rail had 3 long station tracks and one could store at least 20 rapid transit cars on one of those tracks.  Even if service did not warrant with a light number of riders, they would run "sleet cutter" trains with extra cars to keep ice from building up on the wires.  The old blue heavy rail cars had a group of 14 married-pair sets where one car had a normal power collecting pantograph with carbon inserts and the other had a special one with steel inserts to slice through ice.  Even as that group had cars removed from service permanently, they salvaged the sleet cutter car and paired it with a unit where its former mate did not have one.

 

The creation of the joint station of Tower City basically removed almost all of the under cover rail storage.  They could stash some using one track at the Airport Station.  The Breda LRV fleet has a number of cars equipped with sleet cutting pantographs.  A 65-ton diesel locomotive is the sole piece of equipment that can clear snow and it is due for replacement.  RTA has advertised for a replacement, but that will take time to deliver.  Still, it will only amount to one piece of snow removal equipment for the entire rail division.

This organization's incompetence just makes me want to give up light rail in this city and just say kill the rapid all together. The trains are practically empty now as Ken showed with the number of passengers at each station. Just pathetic from another failed and incompetent city organization in Cleveland. Cities like Cinci are seeing record numbers with their transit, Columbus residents are pushing for transit, Boston just opened a brand new line, but here we intentionally neglect an asset that other cities would kill for, to the point it might not survive in the future. 

1 hour ago, AsDustinFoxWouldSay said:

This organization's incompetence just makes me want to give up light rail in this city and just say kill the rapid all together. The trains are practically empty now as Ken showed with the number of passengers at each station. Just pathetic from another failed and incompetent city organization in Cleveland. Cities like Cinci are seeing record numbers with their transit, Columbus residents are pushing for transit, Boston just opened a brand new line, but here we intentionally neglect an asset that other cities would kill for, to the point it might not survive in the future. 

Look at how they are cobbling together a few million here and a few million there at a snail's pace for the rail car replacement.  They "think" they are big players in rail car purchases, but reputable manufacturers have their plates full with orders from other agencies.  Those cities have agreed upon standard, off-the-shelf designs and will make multiple orders and add-on orders over many years.  Maybe, RTA will make a single order for one rail car design of 75-80 units tops.  If not, then expect they will continue make the same stupid mistakes with two small orders of 35-40 units.  That draws little interest to begin with, but to make it worse, RTA's incompetent leadership will make manufacturers jump through hoops to conform to unique non-standard designs.  The reputable manufacturers have already shown no interest in conforming to these outrageous limitations by a minor player in the industry.  These builders won't care as they know they won't need to worry about another order from RTA for 35-40 years.  RTA will then settle on some builder nobody heard of with no experience with rail cars with some unknown suppliers providing components.  The resulting "product" will be junk that will run way over budget, face long delays, be plagued with massive problems that will drag on for years if they ever can get resolved.  In 15-20 years, the builder will be out of business and so will many of the suppliers.  If the fleet(s) will even be worth maintaining, they will be forced to once again to pay for custom expensive parts runs to keep the replacement rail cars operational.

 

Even though RTA has a vastly diminished presence in transit, just for the fact that there have been four members of the House of Representatives and the two Senators (with Sherrod Brown being from the area), they seem to be nickel and diming their efforts to secure funding.  We hear little of any solicitations for Federal funding grants and assistance to get the funding nailed down.  It should not be that hard.  Just up I-90 with Laketran, a system that is less than 1/10 the size of RTA, is always securing major grants of millions for facilities,  improvements and setting up the first battery-powered bus fleet in the state.  They have been able to do so by seeking out assistance from Ohio's congressional members, so why cannot RTA do this?  Bibb was once a member of RTA's board of trustees.  We have heard little from him on this subject, even though the residents of Cleveland are major benefactors of RTA's service.  Ronayne hasn't stated anything about RTA since winning in November.

 

This whole rail car purchase has been bungled mistake after bungled mistake.  Supposedly, RTA will address the purchase next year, but that should have been addressed more than a decade ago when the fleet was still somewhat decent.  Will the fleets even be operational once the replacements arrive? 

Laketran is amazing for such a small County, though that won't stop my old man from bitching about it.

He has a point: I never see anybody on it when I'm occasionally out in Lake County. I plan on taking Laketran to visit Pops one of these days, lol.

If I lived out there and worked downtown, taking their flyers would be an absolute no-brainer.

 

Lorain County has zilch as a comparison.

 

RTA has definitely been a political "landing pad" in my experience. I wonder how many employees drive to work?

 

Similarly, I wish someone would do a study on how many riders take transit by choice , (like me,) rather than by necessity.

 

Sadly Transit remains a sign of low status in 'Murica. I get in arguments with car-brained co-workers every week: I can't resist, hearing them whine and moan about traffic and gas prices, and parking. I just feel a need to rub it in! Zero sympathy me.

I also ride a bike. Oddly(?) that provides endless fascination for them, unlike me riding the bus or even walking.

 

I'm all out of fks for the car-dependent.

Edited December 24, 20222 yr by MVH

15 hours ago, LifeLongClevelander said:

Look at how they are cobbling together a few million here and a few million there at a snail's pace for the rail car replacement.  They "think" they are big players in rail car purchases, but reputable manufacturers have their plates full with orders from other agencies.  Those cities have agreed upon standard, off-the-shelf designs and will make multiple orders and add-on orders over many years.  Maybe, RTA will make a single order for one rail car design of 75-80 units tops.  If not, then expect they will continue make the same stupid mistakes with two small orders of 35-40 units.  That draws little interest to begin with, but to make it worse, RTA's incompetent leadership will make manufacturers jump through hoops to conform to unique non-standard designs.  The reputable manufacturers have already shown no interest in conforming to these outrageous limitations by a minor player in the industry.  These builders won't care as they know they won't need to worry about another order from RTA for 35-40 years.  RTA will then settle on some builder nobody heard of with no experience with rail cars with some unknown suppliers providing components.  The resulting "product" will be junk that will run way over budget, face long delays, be plagued with massive problems that will drag on for years if they ever can get resolved.  In 15-20 years, the builder will be out of business and so will many of the suppliers.  If the fleet(s) will even be worth maintaining, they will be forced to once again to pay for custom expensive parts runs to keep the replacement rail cars operational.

 

Even though RTA has a vastly diminished presence in transit, just for the fact that there have been four members of the House of Representatives and the two Senators (with Sherrod Brown being from the area), they seem to be nickel and diming their efforts to secure funding.  We hear little of any solicitations for Federal funding grants and assistance to get the funding nailed down.  It should not be that hard.  Just up I-90 with Laketran, a system that is less than 1/10 the size of RTA, is always securing major grants of millions for facilities,  improvements and setting up the first battery-powered bus fleet in the state.  They have been able to do so by seeking out assistance from Ohio's congressional members, so why cannot RTA do this?  Bibb was once a member of RTA's board of trustees.  We have heard little from him on this subject, even though the residents of Cleveland are major benefactors of RTA's service.  Ronayne hasn't stated anything about RTA since winning in November.

 

This whole rail car purchase has been bungled mistake after bungled mistake.  Supposedly, RTA will address the purchase next year, but that should have been addressed more than a decade ago when the fleet was still somewhat decent.  Will the fleets even be operational once the replacements arrive? 

 

Cleveland used to have strong bipartisan representation in Congress when Lou Stokes and later Steve LaTourette were in office.   None since, which I suspect is why NCB is now PNC.   Dennis was great at representing individuals, the region not so much.   

21 hours ago, Boomerang_Brian said:

Extremely frustrating after RTA committed to readiness for this storm:

 

 

 

Things like snowstorms, the St. Patrick's Day parade, the 2016 Game 7s, and the Cavaliers parade were GCRTA's chance to shine or stink.   I can't recall the last time they did the former.

20 hours ago, MVH said:

Laketran is amazing for such a small County, though that won't stop my old man from bitching about it.

He has a point: I never see anybody on it when I'm occasionally out in Lake County. I plan on taking Laketran to visit Pops one of these days, lol.

If I lived out there and worked downtown, taking their flyers would be an absolute no-brainer.

Lorain County has zilch as a comparison.

 

RTA has definitely been a political "landing pad" in my experience. I wonder how many employees drive to work?

 

Similarly, I wish someone would do a study on how many riders take transit by choice , (like me,) rather than by necessity.

 

 

 

Laketran is far superior, but the Market Street lot across 2 from my plant seems nowhere near as full as it was pre-virus.  Still. what they do well is respond to what their potential customers want.   Nothing "one size fits all" about them.

 

The number of people taking transit by choice is never going to be high in the less-dense cities, which is pretty much all of them off the coasts.  For one thing, it's become an order of magnitude more socially acceptable to strongly value personal space during the last 50 years or so.

 

But everyone who falls into that category starts out by commuting.  Or events where driving is especially inconvenient.

Edited December 24, 20222 yr by E Rocc
clarity

1 hour ago, E Rocc said:

 

Cleveland used to have strong bipartisan representation in Congress when Lou Stokes and later Steve LaTourette were in office.   None since, which I suspect is why NCB is now PNC.   Dennis was great at representing individuals, the region not so much.   

It is interesting to note that Laketran's funding for its battery powered bus project and the infrastructure improvements was secured by Republican David Joyce and Democrat Sherrod Brown.  Laketran actively cultivated congressional support from both sides of the political isle to get money it needed.  I think that little effort is expended by RTA's leadership for its rail car replacement.

 

As for Kucinich, he didn't give a darn about banks.  He showed that by doing nothing regarding National City Bank and by doing nothing regarding the take over of Charter One Bank by Citizens Bank (Royal Bank of Scotland).  He didn't care about the fallout of his personal vendetta against banks, even though it cost his home base of Cleveland many thousands in jobs, the lost headquarters and the resulting tax revenue losses.

25 minutes ago, LifeLongClevelander said:

It is interesting to note that Laketran's funding for its battery powered bus project and the infrastructure improvements was secured by Republican David Joyce and Democrat Sherrod Brown.  Laketran actively cultivated congressional support from both sides of the political isle to get money it needed.  I think that little effort is expended by RTA's leadership for its rail car replacement.

 

As for Kucinich, he didn't give a darn about banks.  He showed that by doing nothing regarding National City Bank and by doing nothing regarding the take over of Charter One Bank by Citizens Bank (Royal Bank of Scotland).  He didn't care about the fallout of his personal vendetta against banks, even though it cost his home base of Cleveland many thousands in jobs, the lost headquarters and the resulting tax revenue losses.

Do Birdsong or the RTA board ever get to answer questions from reporters on these tough topics?   Are reporters asking the questions?   It seems like this entire region has devolved into just shrugging our shoulders and expecting mediocrity.  

14 minutes ago, Cleburger said:

Do Birdsong or the RTA board ever get to answer questions from reporters on these tough topics?   Are reporters asking the questions?   It seems like this entire region has devolved into just shrugging our shoulders and expecting mediocrity.  

If reporters do manage to ask questions (if they manage to get them in), many political and agency leaders have become masters of deferring/deflecting or running and hiding to avoid answering the tough ones.

3 hours ago, Cleburger said:

Do Birdsong or the RTA board ever get to answer questions from reporters on these tough topics?   Are reporters asking the questions?   It seems like this entire region has devolved into just shrugging our shoulders and expecting mediocrity.  

 

To most of the county, GCRTA is largely irrevelant.   The "one size fits all" approach demanded by the early boards pretty much made it a non option for those with options.   After 4-1/2 decades of this, it's become the default setting.   Expected, accepted, and perpetuated.

Edited December 24, 20222 yr by E Rocc

4 hours ago, LifeLongClevelander said:

It is interesting to note that Laketran's funding for its battery powered bus project and the infrastructure improvements was secured by Republican David Joyce and Democrat Sherrod Brown.  Laketran actively cultivated congressional support from both sides of the political isle to get money it needed.  I think that little effort is expended by RTA's leadership for its rail car replacement.

 

As for Kucinich, he didn't give a darn about banks.  He showed that by doing nothing regarding National City Bank and by doing nothing regarding the take over of Charter One Bank by Citizens Bank (Royal Bank of Scotland).  He didn't care about the fallout of his personal vendetta against banks, even though it cost his home base of Cleveland many thousands in jobs, the lost headquarters and the resulting tax revenue losses.

 

Kucinich didn't give a darn about much that he couldn't grandstand about, with the exception of constituent service.   He was never an effective representative for the region, but his ombudsman skills kept getting him re-elected.

6 hours ago, E Rocc said:

 

Cleveland used to have strong bipartisan representation in Congress when Lou Stokes and later Steve LaTourette were in office.   None since, which I suspect is why NCB is now PNC.   Dennis was great at representing individuals, the region not so much.   

LaTourette was in office when NCB became PNC, sooo 🤷‍♂️

40 minutes ago, E Rocc said:

 

To most of the county, GCRTA is largely irrevelant.   The "one size fits all" approach demanded by the early boards pretty much made it a non option for those with options.   After 4-1/2 decades of this, it's become the default setting.   Expected, accepted, and perpetuated.

RTA has made itself mostly irrelevant.  It has become a system of "sponsored" routes.  What would happen if the HealthLine, CSU line, MetroHealth line and the Strongsville park-n-ride routes lost their sponsorships?  Service would be drastically cut back or eliminated.  That is what happened when the downtown "trolley" routes lost their sponsors.  Most of the "trolley" routes were eliminated.  When those sponsored downtown "trolley" routes were mostly sponsored, the one that operated from the Muny lot wasn't.  Even though they had ample "trolley" style buses to operate that route, it saw the oldest junk standard buses operate that route.  Without being sponsored, those routes would not have the levels of service to see the frequency and/or the type of equipment for those routes.  

1 hour ago, brtshrcegr said:

LaTourette was in office when NCB became PNC, sooo 🤷‍♂️

 

He was not in the majority, though.   

JFC

 

^ Absolutely pathetic 🤬

5 hours ago, roman totale XVII said:

^ Absolutely pathetic 🤬

Woe is Cleveland!!

 

Except for: New allegations of safety problems at Metrorail threaten to derail WMATA's overhaul of the system

 

And also: Lawmakers demand halt to work on scandal-ridden light rail line

 

And on, and on, ad infinitum.
 

Should we demand better from GCRTA and its leadership? ABSOLUTELY. 

 

Is this another #onlyinCleveland moment? Absolutely not. 

G’AAAAHHHH

 

Good news I guess?

 

Nice thread on the Red Line:

 

RTA is setting up a Civilian Oversight Committee to review transit police complaints. You can read cleveland.com's write up here for more details. 

 

Here is the link to download the application: https://www.riderta.com/coc/apply

 

To submit either email it to [email protected], drop it off at the downtown office, or mail it to RTA Executive Dept. (Attention COC), 1240 W. 6th St., Cleveland, OH, 44113.

4 hours ago, Luke_S said:

RTA is setting up a Civilian Oversight Committee to review transit police complaints. You can read cleveland.com's write up here for more details. 

 

Here is the link to download the application: https://www.riderta.com/coc/apply

 

To submit either email it to [email protected], drop it off at the downtown office, or mail it to RTA Executive Dept. (Attention COC), 1240 W. 6th St., Cleveland, OH, 44113.

I am thinking about applying myself. I do have one question. I am in the middle of a job search (I work in finance), would this be considered a public office commitment?

RTA ambassadors spotted in the wild 

 

^ are they using ambassadors to bring POP back to the Healthline?

So I was watching a YouTube channel on how North American buses suck compared to our European counterparts. Essentially they were saying they had European friends visit him in Canada (home to new flyer etc.) and they were talking about how uncomfortable the ride and seats were and how badly the bus rattled when it hit bumps.

That got me wondering if in addition to people not wanting to ride public transportation such as RTA etc. due to negative perceptions, do people also not want to ride because it overall just isn't a pleasant experience. If the bus riding experience was much more pleasant and comfortable would that entice (some) to ride? Obviously convenience makes a difference but I never thought about that being a factor. I always thought all buses globally rode the same.

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^ are they using ambassadors to bring POP back to the Healthline?

I believe that is the plan.

Edit: It looks like they are essentially intervention specialists, As well as there to alleviate the fare responsibility from drivers to speed up service.

https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/gcrta-debuts-transit-ambassador-program-to-improve-community-engagement

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Supervises payment of fares?

Manages minor security concerns?

Remains within the passenger compartment during travel?

 

Maybe there's a word for this... con-duck-tor? Perhaps I'm overthinking the matter. Carry on gentlemen... 

Incoming!

 

 

34 minutes ago, KJP said:

Incoming!

 

 

Construction of the Dual Hub subway....🤪🤪

1 hour ago, KJP said:

Incoming!

 

 

 

Selling the rest of the trains and opting into hyperloop!

 

OR (bike cleveland proposal)?

 

 

OR (hand car local 34's proposal)?

 

1 hour ago, KJP said:

Incoming!

 

 

 

Is this a good or bad bomb? 

I'm assuming good because the emoji is kinda smiling, but I must confirm so I know how to prepare my mind.

1 hour ago, KJP said:

Incoming!

 

 

Looks like someone figured out what the new rail cars are going to be. 

Here it is. The big news!!

 

You're right @Boomerang_BrianGood guess!!

 

 

 

 

Sneak peek at GCRTA’s new trains

By Ken Prendergast / January 20, 2023

 

When the Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority (GCRTA) acquired new Italian-built Breda trains for its Blue and Green light-rail lines linking Shaker Heights and downtown Cleveland, Jimmy Carter was still in the White House. It was only a few years later, in Ronald Reagan’s first term, when GCRTA received new Japanese-made Tokyu trains for its heavy-rail Red Line between Cleveland Hopkins Airport and Windermere. GCRTA is still relying on trains that predate the mullet. To say that these trains are due for a replacement is an understatement.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blog/2023/01/20/sneak-peek-at-gcrtas-new-trains/