October 15, 201410 yr How far is RTA with 79th and 34th? They've shown they CAN move stations, like the new Little Italy-University Circle Red Line station. They listened to citizens concerns in planning that one. Can we still voice anything? I don't believe they've made anything set in stone, have they? The 34 Street station can be reused as buses from the SE already go past it. As well as it used to be the last stop on the Campus Loop Bus. However, what RTA is proposing is ridiculous. Rebuild the entire station. Or move it to 22 Street.
October 15, 201410 yr Author Is it the Feds that are forcing RTA to rebuild the East 79th station? Is there any coordination between these decisions and the planning work being done in connection with the Opportunity Corridor? No, it's the CDCs -- which haven't done anything to promote transit oriented development (land use plans, zoning, incentives, etc) at those station-areas. Yet they want to rebuild the stations in-place to board 150 riders a day. With the money they would spend on those stations for that level of ridership that will never grow in the absence of supportive land uses, GCRTA could buy those riders a new economy car every five years and give them a stipend for insurance and gasoline for the rest of their lives. How far is RTA with 79th and 34th? They've shown they CAN move stations, like the new Little Italy-University Circle Red Line station. They listened to citizens concerns in planning that one. Can we still voice anything? I don't believe they've made anything set in stone, have they? And that's the truly ironic part. The Euclid-East 120th station is being moved to Little Italy-Mayfield because of the Dual Hub Transitional Analysis which recommended the move. You know what else that plan -- OK'd by GCRTA's board, NOACA's board, City Planning Commission et al -- recommended? It recommended moving the East 34th station to East 22nd, and moving the East 79th Station to East 89th-Woodland. The latter would move the station out of the Burten-Bell-Carr CDC area by about 500 feet which incurred the wrath of BBC staff and board. Not sure why the Campus District CDC hated the idea of moving their station to East 22nd or even East 30th. But I seem to recall GCRTA wasn't crazy about it either -- especially because of the cost -- they believe in having island platforms only, which means spending money on spreading the tracks to insert a platform like what was done at Little Italy. Dual Hub Transitional Analysis recommendation: All Aboard Ohio graphic: How the streets are being realigned by ODOT in the vicinity of the Central Interchange: All Aboard Ohio graphic: Ironically, this was e-mailed this AM......... In the Campus District: October 15th, 2014 Community Meeting to Discuss E.34th St Rapid Transit Station with RTA. RTA is holding a community meeting to gather more information and comments from the public about the need for the East 34th Street Rapid Transit station. The meeting will be held at the Tri-C Metro Campus, Center Building at 6pm on November 5th. Campus District, Inc. urges community residents and stakeholders to attend this meeting and to complete RTA's online survey in the link below. Staff from RTA and the project consultant Parsons Brinckerhoff will also be out on the platforms at E 34th St. and E 79th St. Red Line stations on Tuesday October 21st to distribute the surveys and flyers to riders at the two stations. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/rtastationsurvey "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 15, 201410 yr I certainly don't agree with the CDCs if they're insisting that these stations be rebuilt/enhanced in-place, but they don't have any actual authority to dictate to RTA- at some point RTA has to just say "no" and the city/county have to stand behind them to de-politicize it. KJP, has RTA made a formal decision about the East 79th street station, or are you just communicating that the decision has already been made internally? Was this meeting ever re-scheduled? http://www.riderta.com/news/july-22-public-meetings-set-discussion-e-79the-34th-stations
October 15, 201410 yr Author No decisions have been made, but in recent planning meetings, only one person (Wayne Mortensen) suggested moving the stations to nearby locations where they could produce more ridership. And the response to his suggestion was cold, to say the least. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 15, 201410 yr Well I'll do my best to be at the next meeting and throw my support behind moving the 34th station and the 79th Red Line station. Even if I'm the only one. Politicking by CDCs shouldn't stop good public transit. EDIT: I remember when I was younger and Dual Hub was first being discussed. Those graphics bring back some memories!
October 15, 201410 yr Just wondering, for those of you that ride RTA buses, have you ever looked at the advertising on the ceiling of the bus? I'm not referring to the angled ads directly above the seats. There is advertising directly above the aisle on the ceiling and on every bus I've ridden it seems to have been installed incorrectly. If you want to read the ad, you need to be facing from the front of the bus to the rear. It seems to me they should have installed the graphics so that as you ride and are facing the front of the bus, you can read the advertisement. Or maybe I'm missing something...
October 15, 201410 yr Just wondering, for those of you that ride RTA buses, have you ever looked at the advertising on the ceiling of the bus? I'm not referring to the angled ads directly above the seats. There is advertising directly above the aisle on the ceiling and on every bus I've ridden it seems to have been installed incorrectly. If you want to read the ad, you need to be facing from the front of the bus to the rear. It seems to me they should have installed the graphics so that as you ride and are facing the front of the bus, you can read the advertisement. Or maybe I'm missing something... Your kidding? Is RTA really that sloppy?
October 15, 201410 yr Author http://www.riderta.com/news/oct-18-19-buses-replace-all-trains-rail-service-east-tower-city Oct. 18-19: Buses replace all rail service east of the Tower City Station West Side Red Line service unaffected, Waterfront Line goes to 30-minute frequency Because of ODOT Innerbelt construction, buses will replace trains for all rail service - Red, Blue and Green lines, east of the Tower City Station. Go to your Rapid Station, and board near bus stop signs for 66R (Red Line) or 67R (Blue and Green lines). Downtown buses will pick up and drop off in front of the Horseshoe Casino on Public Square. Red Line service between downtown and the Airport will not be affected. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 15, 201410 yr Author Congrats to Valarie! RTA Board member Valarie J. McCall elected to key national post Oct 11, 2014 CLEVELAND -- Valarie J. McCall, a Board member of the Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority (RTA) since 2006, has been elected Vice Chair of the American Public Transit Association (link is external) (APTA). The election was held Oct. 11, at APTA's annual meeting (link is external) in Houston. The role of the Vice Chair often leads to election as Chair the following year. As Chief of Government and International Affairs (link is external) for Cleveland Mayor Frank G. Jackson (link is external), McCall serves as the City's primary liaison to state government and federal entities. APTA is the leading force in advancing and improving public transportation in North America. “ I am honored that APTA has chosen me to serve as Vice Chair," McCall said. "Public transit is so critical to maintaining a good quality of life, both here and around the country. I look forward to working with APTA, RTA and the City of Cleveland to ensure that public transportation stays on the forefront of discussion in Cleveland, Columbus, and Washington, DC.” READ MORE AT: http://www.riderta.com/news/rta-board-member-valarie-j-mccall-elected-key-national-post "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 15, 201410 yr ^Good for her. She's an impressive lady. Considering her long resume, the word "tireless" would be an apt description of her... to wit: http://www.city.cleveland.oh.us/CityofCleveland/Home/Government/Cabinet/VMcCall
October 15, 201410 yr Just wondering, for those of you that ride RTA buses, have you ever looked at the advertising on the ceiling of the bus? I'm not referring to the angled ads directly above the seats. There is advertising directly above the aisle on the ceiling and on every bus I've ridden it seems to have been installed incorrectly. If you want to read the ad, you need to be facing from the front of the bus to the rear. It seems to me they should have installed the graphics so that as you ride and are facing the front of the bus, you can read the advertisement. Or maybe I'm missing something... Your kidding? Is RTA really that sloppy? Well, someone is sloppy. I doubt that RTA staff apply the graphics or design the ads. Maybe the advertising company thinks that riders pay attention to the ceiling as the enter a bus so they gave instructions that were followed by the installer? Somebody should be getting a refund!!!
October 15, 201410 yr Just wondering, for those of you that ride RTA buses, have you ever looked at the advertising on the ceiling of the bus? I'm not referring to the angled ads directly above the seats. There is advertising directly above the aisle on the ceiling and on every bus I've ridden it seems to have been installed incorrectly. If you want to read the ad, you need to be facing from the front of the bus to the rear. It seems to me they should have installed the graphics so that as you ride and are facing the front of the bus, you can read the advertisement. Or maybe I'm missing something... Your kidding? Is RTA really that sloppy? Well, someone is sloppy. I doubt that RTA staff apply the graphics or design the ads. Maybe the advertising company thinks that riders pay attention to the ceiling as the enter a bus so they gave instructions that were followed by the installer? Somebody should be getting a refund!!! I say that tongue 'n cheek... When you see such things as RTA's lack of station maintenance (NOTE: weeds growing through cracks at the Flats East Bank station after its being refurbished less than a year and a half ago), the ever-present trash in along the tracks in Shaker Blvd at MLK, the practically always wrong "Next Train" signs in rail stations, or the sometimes-on, sometimes-off goofy GPS station calls on the Red Line (with that still irritating, inaccurate male voice: ie, still talking about nearby attractions at E. 105 including the "soon to be built" Juvenile Justice Center -- hint, the place opened 4 or 5 years ago), or (worst of all) the bus driver talking on her cellphone while driving who struck and killed a pedestrian as she made a right-hand turn... ... so, yes, I absolutely believe RTA could be that lax and sloppy.
October 15, 201410 yr If someone is actually looking at the ceiling and consciously recognizes that there is an ad there and that they intend to read that ad it doesn't matter what direction it is facing. The advertiser has already won.
October 16, 201410 yr I used to live on Murray Hill Road near the UC station. Noise is certainly a factor. We've talked about the 105th station and how it's surrounded by what can politely be called a distressed neighborhood. How about the W. 65th Lorain station, integrated almost perfectly into Lawn Avenue. Has it spurred any TOD? (serious question). I have strong doubts that it's suitable for that purpose. IMO it's better utilized with few stations, each a mini hub.
October 16, 201410 yr Author I used to live on Murray Hill Road near the UC station. Noise is certainly a factor. Everyone is different. Some people hate noise. Some people get use to noise. And some like noise. In the mid-90s I lived in Berea below the airport's old south approach, next to SR237 and near Conrail's junction of 120 trains a day, with several road crossings and lots of train horns. Then I baby-sat my parents' house in Aurora. It was so quiet I couldn't sleep. After a couple hours I turned on a TV with the volume up and fell asleep right away. Everyone is different. Try to remember that. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 16, 201410 yr I used to live on Murray Hill Road near the UC station. Noise is certainly a factor. We've talked about the 105th station and how it's surrounded by what can politely be called a distressed neighborhood. How about the W. 65th Lorain station, integrated almost perfectly into Lawn Avenue. Has it spurred any TOD? (serious question). I have strong doubts that it's suitable for that purpose. IMO it's better utilized with few stations, each a mini hub. In general, if you're holding up various station locations in/around Cleveland for TOD, you're stacking the deck as, I'm sure you're aware, ... aside from TOD growth sprouting in/around Shaker Hts from the Rapid a century ago, Cleveland's been slow to develop TOD ... but that's changing. Plus, you're noise argument fails badly, because 2 of the sites where new TOD is sprouting are very noisy RR sites -- Little Italy and Flats East Bank... I'm assuming of course, you're talking about freight railroad noise and not the Rapid trains themselves, which aren't that noisy, and even then, are quick and fleeting compared to mile+ long freight trains.... And Little Italy, where TOD growth and density is off the hook -- one of the fastest growing mult-unit development areas sprouting new apartment complexes charging some of the highest rentals in the region -- is directly on one of the busiest freight train locations in Greater Cleveland with 2 elevated through freight lines in addition to the Red Line Rapid... Seems that bankers financing such high end development, and renters and townhouse seekers seeking to live there, are oblivious to your thesis. But then your train noise argument falls flat with your W. 65th example, because trains are on the single-track, less frequent NS route plus they’re in an open cut thus reducing their noise to people on the surface.
October 16, 201410 yr I can't sleep without noise. I'm definitely a city person who would LOVE to be right on a rail transit line.
October 17, 201410 yr I used to live on Murray Hill right across from the rapid station as well (Staley Hall). It wasn't THAT noisy, but I loved what noise there was. Sometimes when I can't sleep I use an app on my phone that makes city noises.
October 17, 201410 yr We've talked about the 105th station and how it's surrounded by what can politely be called a distressed neighborhood. How about the W. 65th Lorain station, integrated almost perfectly into Lawn Avenue. Has it spurred any TOD? (serious question). W. 65th actually did spur TOD- in the 90s, the EcoVillage townhomes were specifically built with the idea that residents would use the red line. To be fair, they're not the highest-density and I don't think the development was ever entirely built out as planned, but they certainly qualify.
October 17, 201410 yr I used to live in an apt. off Murray Hill right up next to the Red Line Rapid tracks.. The noise was nothing much, and actually most things built very close take it into account with insulation anyway. I moved because the lease was up and the landlord was kinda shady, not because of train noise. The apartments and houses on that street are actually fully occupied.
October 17, 201410 yr These newish fare cards suck. The time stamps never get fully applied, and everything but the magnetic strip can be easily scratched or smudged off. I just ran out of the wavy lines ones that expire in '16 this month.
October 18, 201410 yr These newish fare cards suck. The time stamps never get fully applied, and everything but the magnetic strip can be easily scratched or smudged off. I just ran out of the wavy lines ones that expire in '16 this month. What sucks is their policy of requiring a separate fare (or fare equivalent) for each leg of a trip. Especially when the system is so radial and getting almost anywhere requires (at least) two routes. One of the things I'd like to see with my Red Line mini-hub proposal is pay as you enter the complex, and get on any vehicle. Transfers within the complex are free.
October 18, 201410 yr ^That's why you buy one of the "Trip" cards like the 5-Trip card in my photo (Or any of the other fare cards). Transfer privileges for 2.5hrs. You'd be able to see when all of my transfer windows expired if the cards were accepting the farebox printing like normal.
October 18, 201410 yr ^That's why you buy one of the "Trip" cards like the 5-Trip card in my photo (Or any of the other fare cards). Transfer privileges for 2.5hrs. You'd be able to see when all of my transfer windows expired if the cards were accepting the farebox printing like normal. Okay so the second leg of the trip doesn't knock a second trip off the card? That's at least an improvement, even though they seem to be soliciting advanced/overbuying.... The last time I rode, about two years ago, the driver told me you had to buy an all day pass or pay another fare on the transfer.
October 18, 201410 yr These newish fare cards suck. The time stamps never get fully applied, and everything but the magnetic strip can be easily scratched or smudged off. I just ran out of the wavy lines ones that expire in '16 this month. I've been using a monthly pass lately, but had previously been using 5 ride cards. I noticed that about half the time, the machines at the red line stations were never marking time stamps on the card to begin with. I'm sure that makes the random spot checks to make sure people have paid for their fare very difficult to enforce. In 2009/2010 you could count on a random fare check every other week on the red line or healthline. However, I haven't seen a random spot check in about 2 years now.
October 18, 201410 yr These newish fare cards suck. The time stamps never get fully applied, and everything but the magnetic strip can be easily scratched or smudged off. I just ran out of the wavy lines ones that expire in '16 this month. I've been using a monthly pass lately, but had previously been using 5 ride cards. I noticed that about half the time, the machines at the red line stations were never marking time stamps on the card to begin with. I'm sure that makes the random spot checks to make sure people have paid for their fare very difficult to enforce. In 2009/2010 you could count on a random fare check every other week on the red line or healthline. However, I haven't seen a random spot check in about 2 years now. That's creepy. Is the fare collection system that spotty and easy to bypass???
October 18, 201410 yr These newish fare cards suck. The time stamps never get fully applied, and everything but the magnetic strip can be easily scratched or smudged off. I just ran out of the wavy lines ones that expire in '16 this month. I've been using a monthly pass lately, but had previously been using 5 ride cards. I noticed that about half the time, the machines at the red line stations were never marking time stamps on the card to begin with. I'm sure that makes the random spot checks to make sure people have paid for their fare very difficult to enforce. In 2009/2010 you could count on a random fare check every other week on the red line or healthline. However, I haven't seen a random spot check in about 2 years now. That's creepy. Is the fare collection system that spotty and easy to bypass??? The red line stations are completely honor system except for Tower City. The majority of riders will start or end at Tower City though. I have no idea what percentage of US heavy rail transit lines are honor system, but I'd imagine it can't be that high. I know that the Portland and Denver light rail systems were honor system for the routes that I took, off the top of my head I can't think of any others.
October 18, 201410 yr ^That's why you buy one of the "Trip" cards like the 5-Trip card in my photo (Or any of the other fare cards). Transfer privileges for 2.5hrs. You'd be able to see when all of my transfer windows expired if the cards were accepting the farebox printing like normal. Okay so the second leg of the trip doesn't knock a second trip off the card? That's at least an improvement, even though they seem to be soliciting advanced/overbuying.... The last time I rode, about two years ago, the driver told me you had to buy an all day pass or pay another fare on the transfer. That's true if you're buying your fare on the bus. There are other options if you plan ahead.
October 18, 201410 yr Author The red line stations are completely honor system except for Tower City. The majority of riders will start or end at Tower City though. I have no idea what percentage of US heavy rail transit lines are honor system, but I'd imagine it can't be that high. I know that the Portland and Denver light rail systems were honor system for the routes that I took, off the top of my head I can't think of any others. Once you get away from the biggest cities, most rail systems (and many BRTs) are proof-of-payment. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 18, 201410 yr The red line stations are completely honor system except for Tower City. The majority of riders will start or end at Tower City though. I have no idea what percentage of US heavy rail transit lines are honor system, but I'd imagine it can't be that high. I know that the Portland and Denver light rail systems were honor system for the routes that I took, off the top of my head I can't think of any others. Once you get away from the biggest cities, most rail systems (and many BRTs) are proof-of-payment. But it sounds like it's not even that on GCRTA. I would hate the idea of the "random" checks (which never really are...) if I were a regular rider, but how much are they losing using the "honor system"? Enough to pay for some turnstiles and cameras? Or (God-forbid) attendants? You've almost got a clean slate at 55th with the OC coming in, a controlled access, free-transfer hub makes a ton of sense.
October 18, 201410 yr The red line stations are completely honor system except for Tower City. The majority of riders will start or end at Tower City though. I have no idea what percentage of US heavy rail transit lines are honor system, but I'd imagine it can't be that high. I know that the Portland and Denver light rail systems were honor system for the routes that I took, off the top of my head I can't think of any others. Once you get away from the biggest cities, most rail systems (and many BRTs) are proof-of-payment. But it sounds like it's not even that on GCRTA. I would hate the idea of the "random" checks (which never really are...) if I were a regular rider, but how much are they losing using the "honor system"? Enough to pay for some turnstiles and cameras? Or (God-forbid) attendants? You've almost got a clean slate at 55th with the OC coming in, a controlled access, free-transfer hub makes a ton of sense. "attendants" AKA token booth clerk or station employees would most likely be unionized and RTA would view that as an expense they cannot afford. The Cleveland Rapid had token both clerks in the past I wonder how they were budgeted.
October 20, 201410 yr Author "attendants" AKA token booth clerk or station employees would most likely be unionized and RTA would view that as an expense they cannot afford. Which is they don't have them anymore. Every station had an agent, at 2-3 shifts per day plus (say 3 to account for an extra board/flex agent in case someone was sick or on vacation), health care, pension plan, etc. I believe most were pulling in $50,000 to $75,000 per year x 3 x 19 Red Line stations = $2.85 million to $4.275 million per year. So figure $3 million to $4 million per year is what GCRTA saved by not having station agents anymore. It's one of the reasons why labor went from 72% of GCRTA's costs to about 62%, and why they went from covering about 15% of their operating costs from fares to about 20-25%. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 21, 201410 yr Red Line Greenway dream moves closer to reality with RTA vote CLEVELAND, Ohio -- RTA board members voted Tuesday to collaborate with the Cleveland Metroparks and the Rotary Club of Cleveland on a study of a proposed greenway trail that would extend from West 65th Street to downtown Cleveland. The Red Line Greenway is a long-held dream of members of the Rotary Club of Cleveland, who have spearheaded the proposal and worked over the past several years with the nonprofit LAND Studio to shape the plan. Besides RTA and the Rotary, the Cleveland Metroparks also has a lead role in the proposed path. The line would run from the Michael Zone Recreation Center, cross into RTA property at about West 41st Street, continue on RTA property past the West 25th Street rapid station, and go from there to the Viaduct transit bridge above the Cuyahoga River. At that point it would connect to other regional trails on Franklin Road. http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2014/10/red_line_greenway_dream_moves.html#incart_river
October 22, 201410 yr At 6 p.m. Oct. 30, RTA GM Joe Calabrese speaks to the Shaker Square Area Development Corp. at Our Lady of Peace Church, 12601 Shaker Blvd. -- a 3-block walk from the Shaker Square Station. It is open to all.
October 22, 201410 yr RTA's has a proof of payment system. If you are asked to show proof of payment and you cannot, you pay a fine. It's not an honor system -- where nobody checks.
October 22, 201410 yr RTA's has a proof of payment system. If you are asked to show proof of payment and you cannot, you pay a fine. It's not an honor system -- where nobody checks. I understand that, but how are checks completed? If I have an activated 5 ride card, but a machine doesn't print the time on it and I'm asked to show proof of payment, is showing the 5 ride card "enough" even without the stamp? Does RTA use hand held devices to check the validity of a ticket? One person could have a 5 ride card that they validated but the machine didn't stamp and another rider could have a 5 ride card that they didn't validate. Both cards "look" identical, but could only be substantiated by an "honor system" on board, unless the spot checks on the train have the ability to read the cards.
October 24, 201410 yr One of my favorite bits of Cleveland history is Shaker vs. Porter. Also maybe up there with the history of Terminal Tower and the Vans. I agree Shaker won't let RTA get away with it, thankfully. Sometimes the old guard can fight the old guard. Still it's worth it, I think, to bring it to residents' attentions that we need a serious look at our transport policies. Porter's been dead, his ideas are weirdly sometimes still around. Perhaps a few well placed emails to the right journalists --- and maybe even a CWRU Observer piece -- need to happen. Whelp apparently an Observer piece may happen, after the phone call I just got. Stay tuned?
October 25, 201410 yr This morning's (Fri 10/24) Weekly Regional Roundtable at 90.3 at 9:00 gave some decent verbage to transit around minutes 25-30 and ~40 of this 50-minute talk: http://ideastream.org/soi/entry/65372 This is the regular Friday talkfest of the 5-day-a-week 9:00-10:00 show. I listen fairly often (especially online later that night) and I think this reaches a significant # of people who are potentially sympathetic yet don't usually tune into UrbanOhio or GCBL blog, etc.
October 29, 201410 yr Author Greater Cleve RTA @GCRTA 57s57 seconds ago 6p 10/30, Joe Calabrese speaks to Shaker Sq Area Development Corp at Our Lady of Peace Church, 12601 Shaker Blvd, 3-blocks from Shaker Sq "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 31, 201410 yr Author There is also a link to a quick survey at the link below: http://www.riderta.com/news/nov-1-5-meetings-set-discuss-east-34th-east-79th-rapid-stations Oct 17, 2014 The East 79th Street Station CLEVELAND -- The Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority (RTA) will hold two community meetings to gather more information and public comment about the Rapid Line station at East 34th Street and the Red and Blue/Green Line stations at East 79th Street. Meeting times: Nov. 1 -- 1 p.m. at the Heritage View Homes Community Room, 7230 Kinsman Road (link is external). Ride the 14 bus. Nov. 5 -- 6 p.m., at the Cuyahoga Community College (link is external) Metro Campus, Campus Center Building, first-floor lounge, 2900 Community College Ave (link is external). Ride bus routes 11, 14 or 15. Staff from RTA and project consultant Parsons Brinckerhoff (link is external) will be on platforms at the East 34th Street and East 79th Street Red Line stations on Tuesday, Oct. 21, to distribute surveys and flyers to riders at those stations. RTA encourages community residents, stakeholders, and customers to attend these meetings and comment on their use of the stations. Riders are also encouraged to complete an on-line survey. (link is external) Media Contact Linda Scardilli Krecic (link sends e-mail) 216-566-5211, office 216-390-9605, cell Routes 11: Quincy - Buckeye 14: Kinsman 15: Union - Harvard Major Stations E. 34 - Campus Rapid Station E. 79 (Blue/Green Lines) Rapid Station E. 79 (Red Line) Rapid Station "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 31, 201410 yr Author All Aboard Ohio supports past plans that are still relevant today which would: > Rebuild the East 79th Blue/Green Line station in place to support neighborhood redevelopment efforts. > Relocate the East 79th Red Line station to Buckeye Road where it can be part of walkable, mixed-use developments that will boost ridership. > Relocate the East 34th Blue/Green/Red Lines station to either East 30th or East 14th where it can become part of walkable, mixed-use development that boost ridership. Simply rebuilding these stations at their current locations without transit-supportive land use plans and incentives will not change the usage of these stations. In fact, Cuyahoga County taxpayers would be spending $16 million per station to benefit fewer than 200 riders per day. That's $80,000 per rider. The station hinterlands within a 1,000-foot walk of each is extremely difficult to develop, except for the East 79th Blue/Green station on the Shaker lines. The other stations need to be moved to locations where the surrounding land is already developed with transit-supportive uses and where it is not, has flatter, cleaner land more suited to walkable, mixed-use development that induces transit ridership throughout the day. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 31, 201410 yr Author The link to the station survey is broken. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 3, 201410 yr Author How long will this continue? Mon 11/3 EB Red Line trains leaving @GoingPlacesCLE after 8pm will depart 15 mins later than sched time. http://t.co/08aFiZpkR1 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 3, 201410 yr Here it is, according to RTA, the rumors are untrue. http://observer.case.edu/rta-discusses-plans-for-future-of-public-transportation/ However, the fates of the stations mentioned are still able to influenced! Don't forget about that meeting on the 5th!
November 3, 201410 yr As of now, the facts say that the Blue Line and Green Line are here to stay. Not what I'd call a an airtight, ringing endorsement for the future of the Shaker lines, but for now, we'll take it... At least RTA had their feet held to the fire and were forced to come public to address the absurd and retrogressive rumors... ... great work, Zak!
November 3, 201410 yr As of now, the facts say that the Blue Line and Green Line are here to stay. Not what I'd call a an airtight, ringing endorsement for the future of the Shaker lines, but for now, we'll take it... At least RTA had their feet held to the fire and were forced to come public to address the absurd and retrogressive rumors... ... great work, Zak! All thanks to my friend Gabby, for the great reporting she did!
November 3, 201410 yr As of now, the facts say that the Blue Line and Green Line are here to stay. Not what I'd call a an airtight, ringing endorsement for the future of the Shaker lines, but for now, we'll take it... At least RTA had their feet held to the fire and were forced to come public to address the absurd and retrogressive rumors... ... great work, Zak! All thanks to my friend Gabby, for the great reporting she did! As an Observer alum, I couldn't resist chiming in. Routing light rail to the CC/UC area would be a boon for both.
November 3, 201410 yr The link to the station survey is broken. This was fixed last night (an errant period in the URL). As these forums are not monitored regularly by RTA staff, an email to [email protected] would have yielded quicker results.
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