November 18, 20213 yr welp -- i went to the cavs-nets game. it was ugly. scrubs, we don't want no scrubs. they were down 10-20 pts the whole game. rubio was the only consistent light. love was back, but actually more of a hindrance. i felt bad for coach bickerstaff, he really tried every possible combo, maybe too much so. it was poorly run plays and shooting with our constant d-league mix of characters, vs the nets being healthy and sharp. too many streaks of impulsively gunning threes or long range, instead of going inside. the bright side, and its a big bright side, was they all showed good hustle, i never felt like they were giving up. also, large and polite barclays brooklyn crowd, and cavs fans cheering too, all of which pleasantly surprized me. and -- i did not realize durant in person is such a standout lebron sized big guy vs all the other players out there -- geez! https://www.espn.com/nba/game/_/gameId/401360040
November 18, 20213 yr If Isaac Okoro ever figures out how to hit a wide open jumper, this team could be dangerous. Missing all three *good* big men really hurt us.
November 19, 20213 yr 33 minutes ago, surfohio said: Cavs vs. hated Warriors are outscored 36 to 8 in the 4th....damn. Add Cedi Osman to the injury list. A lack of depth due to injuries make it so a quarter like that may happen. Simply don't have many scorers on the court. We need to get healthy. Once healthy I feel like we are a playoff team and one elite player away from being a championship caliber team.
November 19, 20213 yr Two tough back-to-back losses against the best teams in each conference. I’ve been surprised by the resilience of this team. These last few seasons we would’ve rolled over once we were down. Obviously blowing a double-digit lead hurts, but it changes nothing as far as my hopes on the season. The fact that the outcome has even been in question as late as the 4th quarter of these games is a good sign for this squad. Shoutout to JB and the coaching staff. From helping to keep players engaged on this tough stretch, to consistently using coaches’ challenges at the right times, this is the best Bickerstaff has looked in his HC-ing career. Anyways, we’ve got a substantially lighter second half schedule. We’re missing 4 starters and 2 more rotation guys right now, but once they’re back, combined with the rapid progression of Mobley, Garland and the rest of the young core, this season is feeling like the breakthrough. Great work Koby. Edited November 19, 20213 yr by Boxtruffles "We each pay a fabulous price for our visions of paradise." - ????, ???????
November 19, 20213 yr 27 minutes ago, Boxtruffles said: Two tough back-to-back losses against the best teams in each conference. I’ve been surprised by the resilience of this team. These last few seasons we would’ve rolled over once we were down. Obviously blowing a double-digit lead hurts, but it changes nothing as far as my hopes on the season. The fact that the outcome has even been in question as late as the 4th quarter of these games is a good sign for this squad. Shoutout to JB and the coaching staff. From helping to keep players engaged on this tough stretch, to consistently using coaches’ challenges at the right times, this is the best Bickerstaff has looked in his HC-ing career. Anyways, we’ve got a substantially lighter second half schedule. We’re missing 4 starters and 2 more rotation guys right now, but once they’re back, combined with the rapid progression of Mobley, Garland and the rest of the young core, this season is feeling like the breakthrough. Great work Koby. This is the correct opinion
November 19, 20213 yr if they would just pass the ball around a few more times to try to go inside and quit chuckin the dam threes, which they are not good at lately, i feel like the games could be a lot closer. upside is they do keep up the hustle, even if it is keystone cops-like, but the d is actually still pretty decent. i get it though -- it's hard to have actual play-running team unity when the coach has to mix and match scrubs so much because of the injuries.
November 20, 20213 yr Hate to say it, but the team might be better off. Sexton has been awful this year. This also allows JB to move Okoro into the starting lineup at his natural position. The defense is gonna be nasty. I was worried about this lineup before the season, but Mobley is more of an offensive threat than I thought he would be this early. Sexton is out for the year so you got your wish. Do you still think we are better now?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
November 20, 20213 yr i knew it. i had this exact acl knee injury myself. and funny enough from playing basketball. rehab is no joke. you can do pt all you want, but nothing happens. at best it just keeps you from being tight. its very discouraging for a few months. then one day suddenly and randomly your knee decides its ready to heal and comes back. its so weird.
November 20, 20213 yr Ugh…well maybe he’ll be back for the playoffs. In all seriousness though, Sexton’s work ethic is virtually unparalleled. If there’s anyone who could come back from this stronger, I feel like it’s him. The question is whether that’s for us or a different team. Most likely we keep him (on a value deal) though. "We each pay a fabulous price for our visions of paradise." - ????, ???????
November 21, 20213 yr 2 hours ago, Boxtruffles said: Ugh…well maybe he’ll be back for the playoffs. In all seriousness though, Sexton’s work ethic is virtually unparalleled. If there’s anyone who could come back from this stronger, I feel like it’s him. The question is whether that’s for us or a different team. Most likely we keep him (on a value deal) though. Wouldn’t be surprised if he signed something like a 1 year 20 mil contract so he doesn’t have to take a discount.
November 23, 20213 yr welp with allen and markkanen back in action the cavs made more of a game of it with the nets at home. downside is love and windler didn't do anything and garland was chucking them up left and right playing law of averages. this was a game where even with only collin back they might have won. it's ok tho, they need to keep getting healthy and gel. and of course having mobley and cedi return will help a lot. they were even winning at halftime: https://www.espn.com/nba/recap?gameId=401360077
November 23, 20213 yr Allen was a monster. Good to see Markkanen come back in top form. Garland was having another great game (an efficient 22p/6a) until he took an elbow to the face in the mid/late third quarter. Eventually came back in and just looked off. Heard he went 1/11 from the field after that. Hope he’s alright. Don’t want to get into the reffing. Phantom foul call when Durant just lost the ball going into the half to give him FTs. A bad momentum-changing call in the 4th. Anyways…I think we win even with just Cedi back tbh. Replace Windler’s inefficient minutes with Cedi, who’s been playing well within the system and having his best shooting season thus far, and that could’ve made the difference. Let it be known that Dean Wade effectively slowed KD. Anyways, the way I see it, this is a development season, not win-now by any stretch. In a few years we will be scary but for now guys like Okoro and Windler need ample minutes. Edited November 23, 20213 yr by Boxtruffles "We each pay a fabulous price for our visions of paradise." - ????, ???????
November 23, 20213 yr Love did have 12 boards and 8 pts in just 17 min. I think it was mentioned he's on a minutes restriction. As long as that's the case I think it's not likely we can rely on him for a ton of scoring. Nice to see Okoro get some buckets. But agree with Sexton or even with Cedi back it's a different ballgame last night.
November 23, 20213 yr 17 minutes ago, surfohio said: Love did have 12 boards and 8 pts in just 17 min. I think it was mentioned he's on a minutes restriction. As long as that's the case I think it's not likely we can rely on him for a ton of scoring. Nice to see Okoro get some buckets. But agree with Sexton or even with Cedi back it's a different ballgame last night. Ya. This team is a low seed playoff team at the least, barring more serious injuries
November 30, 20213 yr of course collin is gone for the ear and cedi was out with a backache for dallas, but wow, this right here is a pretty picture of a box scores of what the cavs can be when they are all back in action and healthy: https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401360134
November 30, 20213 yr 50 minutes ago, mrnyc said: of course collin is gone for the ear and cedi was out with a backache for dallas, but wow, this right here is a pretty picture of a box scores of what the cavs can be when they are all back in action and healthy: https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401360134 There's a lot of "experts" floating around out there that should be apologizing to Koby Altman and J.B. Bickerstaff right now.
December 2, 20213 yr Especially after last night's game. Cavs haven't won in Miami in forever. They destroyed a good Heat team. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 2, 20213 yr of course miami whines about adebayo and butler being out. where is my tiny violin? 😂 Block party on South Beach! http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=32766723
December 2, 20213 yr 29 minutes ago, LibertyBlvd said: Nobody had any sympathy for the Cavs when they had key players out. Not past tense - Sexton, who was our leading scorer, is still out.
December 2, 20213 yr 29 minutes ago, bjk said: Not past tense - Sexton, who was our leading scorer, is still out. The very fact that everyone in the world was pointing out to the whining Heat fans on reddit/r/nba lol.
December 6, 20213 yr he did have the hot hand of the night, but the thing of it is -- darius garland is 21. that's young! we got a long time to go 😂 👍 https://www.espn.com/nba/recap?gameId=401360173
December 14, 20213 yr well obviously with everyone healthy now this cavs team is formidable and highly entertaining. the bigs and the d are amazing, they spread it around in scoring and the teamwork is really coming along well. barring future health problems, no question this a playoff team. the nba is starting to take notice: https://www.espn.com/nba/recap?gameId=401360228 Edited December 14, 20213 yr by mrnyc
December 16, 20213 yr The Cavs are winning. The team is fun. We attended the Knicks game in early November. They have been playing winning teams and have come away with some Solid Ws. Lets hope these tough games will lead to wins against the "premiere" teams later in the season. I hope the team can stay COVID free, healthy, maintain this caliber of play and make the playoffs.
December 16, 20213 yr 8 hours ago, MyTwoSense said: The Cavs are winning. The team is fun. We attended the Knicks game in early November. They have been playing winning teams and have come away with some Solid Ws. Lets hope these tough games will lead to wins against the "premiere" teams later in the season. I hope the team can stay COVID free, healthy, maintain this caliber of play and make the playoffs. The game against the Rockets last night was a blowout! The team is definitely fun to watch.
December 16, 20213 yr 5 hours ago, stpats44113 said: The game against the Rockets last night was a blowout! The team is definitely fun to watch. This was so juicy! https://www.nba.com/watch/video/dunk-by-isaac-okoro-c76d5w?plsrc=nba&game-highlights=0022100417
December 19, 20213 yr I freakin' love this team. Which is why I wouldn't want Lebron back.... BTW tonight's game vs Atlanta has been postponed after 5 Cavs players tested positive this morning for COVID-19. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 19, 20213 yr 17 minutes ago, KJP said: I freakin' love this team. Which is why I wouldn't want Lebron back.... LeBron is on the downside of his career. All of the minutes playing basketball from the playground and pickup games as a youth, through all of high school, long NBA seasons and Olympics have added up. He turns 37 in a few weeks. He has been extremely fortunate that he hasn't suffered a truly major knee or ankle injury requiring reconstructive surgery. Plus, being nearly 37, he is OLD in NBA terms. The "fairly minor" nagging injuries will become more frequent and longer to recover from. He can only cheat aging for so long. More importantly, I agree with @KJP on this. This is a wonderful team that has come together. It has taken years to assemble a cohesive unit out of the shambles he left the Cavaliers TWICE. The first time he came back, he was still at the top of his game. If he were to do it again, he is far from his peak and going down. Worse, his presence would probably destroy the chemistry and trust that has developed. Kyrie Irving is definitely not all there "upstairs", but Kyrie forcing his departure was due to LeBron's control of the team. If LeBron came back, how many of his friends would he try to get to come aboard to further mess up the team. He is also a known coach killer. In the end, LeBron felt that he was bigger than the NBA and has attempted to put together super teams. It works for a bit (twice in Miami, once here and once with the Lakers), but then it falls apart. When if falls apart, LeBron the opportunist bails out on his team and looks for his next chance. Over the summer he stated he wanted to retire as a Laker, so what changed? He said this type of thing before as he wanted to retire as a Cavalier. How long did that last? His super team building that was supposed to get him more than six NBA championships has failed again. Per Charles Barkley, the Lakers are comprised of a bunch of old, aging veterans and Anthony Davis. Davis is now hurt and will miss at least a month. They were struggling with a healthy Davis and with him hurt, the season could be over for the Lakers in January. The clock for LeBron is quickly running out and he knows it. If he were to come aboard again, he would leave the Cavaliers in shambles again. When his playing days are finally over, even if he gets to see himself play in the NBA with Jr, I don't even want to see him sign one of those "1 day" ceremonial contracts to retire as a Cavalier. Besides, he did say he wanted to retire as a Laker anyways.
December 19, 20213 yr 17 minutes ago, LifeLongClevelander said: LeBron is on the downside of his career. All of the minutes playing basketball from the playground and pickup games as a youth, through all of high school, long NBA seasons and Olympics have added up. He turns 37 in a few weeks. He has been extremely fortunate that he hasn't suffered a truly major knee or ankle injury requiring reconstructive surgery. Plus, being nearly 37, he is OLD in NBA terms. The "fairly minor" nagging injuries will become more frequent and longer to recover from. He can only cheat aging for so long. More importantly, I agree with @KJP on this. This is a wonderful team that has come together. It has taken years to assemble a cohesive unit out of the shambles he left the Cavaliers TWICE. The first time he came back, he was still at the top of his game. If he were to do it again, he is far from his peak and going down. Worse, his presence would probably destroy the chemistry and trust that has developed. Kyrie Irving is definitely not all there "upstairs", but Kyrie forcing his departure was due to LeBron's control of the team. If LeBron came back, how many of his friends would he try to get to come aboard to further mess up the team. He is also a known coach killer. In the end, LeBron felt that he was bigger than the NBA and has attempted to put together super teams. It works for a bit (twice in Miami, once here and once with the Lakers), but then it falls apart. When if falls apart, LeBron the opportunist bails out on his team and looks for his next chance. Over the summer he stated he wanted to retire as a Laker, so what changed? He said this type of thing before as he wanted to retire as a Cavalier. How long did that last? His super team building that was supposed to get him more than six NBA championships has failed again. Per Charles Barkley, the Lakers are comprised of a bunch of old, aging veterans and Anthony Davis. Davis is now hurt and will miss at least a month. They were struggling with a healthy Davis and with him hurt, the season could be over for the Lakers in January. The clock for LeBron is quickly running out and he knows it. If he were to come aboard again, he would leave the Cavaliers in shambles again. When his playing days are finally over, even if he gets to see himself play in the NBA with Jr, I don't even want to see him sign one of those "1 day" ceremonial contracts to retire as a Cavalier. Besides, he did say he wanted to retire as a Laker anyways. I suspect it's always been very likely that he's going to retire a Cavalier. In fact, if he does I think it's inevitable that he's going to own the team. He's still better than the twelfth guy on the roster. He's got a very high degree of basketball smarts and tactically (as in the course of a game) he's a very unselfish player. Strategically, not so much. Though by most accounts he's a better teammate than Jordan. He potentially brings a great deal of "how to win" knowledge and some experience a young team could benefit from. If Kevin Love (the third member of the superteam trio here) and Bickerstaff are on board, hell yes bring him in. If they win a title, this year or next, I'm sure he retires. And leaves behind a better team. Edited December 19, 20213 yr by E Rocc
December 19, 20213 yr 22 minutes ago, E Rocc said: I suspect it's always been very likely that he's going to retire a Cavalier. In fact, if he does I think it's inevitable that he's going to own the team. He's still better than the twelfth guy on the roster. He's got a very high degree of basketball smarts and tactically (as in the course of a game) he's a very unselfish player. Strategically, not so much. Though by most accounts he's a better teammate than Jordan. He potentially brings a great deal of "how to win" knowledge and some experience a young team could benefit from. If Kevin Love (the third member of the superteam trio here) and Bickerstaff are on board, hell yes bring him in. If they win a title, this year or next, I'm sure he retires. And leaves behind a better team. Quite sure he is better than the 12th guy on the roster. What happens when he "feels" that he isn't being used in the capacity that he "thinks" he should be used in? What happens with Bickerstaff when they don't agree? How about when things don't go well? We have gone that road with James twice. At least the second time, Cleveland got a championship. Another championship would be especially delightful if it is achieved without his presence on the team.
December 19, 20213 yr 9 minutes ago, LifeLongClevelander said: Quite sure he is better than the 12th guy on the roster. What happens when he "feels" that he isn't being used in the capacity that he "thinks" he should be used in? What happens with Bickerstaff when they don't agree? How about when things don't go well? We have gone that road with James twice. At least the second time, Cleveland got a championship. Another championship would be especially delightful if it is achieved without his presence on the team. I'm good with it either way. But as happened the last time, returning here repairs his personal brand to a large degree, especially if it results in another title. It would also let Bronny finish up his career at StVStM, and potentially play his one required year of college ball for Akron, CSU, or OSU. The question would have to be if winning as a team is more important to him than anything else. It once was, more recently that's been questionable.
December 19, 20213 yr 2 hours ago, E Rocc said: I'm good with it either way. But as happened the last time, returning here repairs his personal brand to a large degree, especially if it results in another title. It would also let Bronny finish up his career at StVStM, and potentially play his one required year of college ball for Akron, CSU, or OSU. The question would have to be if winning as a team is more important to him than anything else. It once was, more recently that's been questionable. I don't give a darn about his personal "brand". No guarantee if it happens if he returns. If it does, but it could have happened without him, I don't want him to take credit for it. I also want a player who is fully dedicated to their team. He has his hands in so many projects (supposedly the factor in him going to L.A. in the first place) and he is busy interjecting his thoughts on all sorts of things (Free OBJ for one). He can do that all he wants, but his focus needs to be on his current NBA team that has been having issues. If he has "checked out" already, what's to say he won't again? Based upon some of the things that happened at StVsStM, they may miss the attention and revenue that Bronny would bring, but they may not miss the whole LeBron sideshow again. Quite honestly, the whole situation involving the Hummer should have voided his amateur status in high school. Edited December 19, 20213 yr by LifeLongClevelander
December 20, 20213 yr Because we all expected this at the start of the season right? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 29, 20213 yr This SUCKS! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 30, 20213 yr just unbelievable. rubio is crucial lynchpin on this team. why does this always happen to us? uugggh. https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32959428/cleveland-cavaliers-ricky-rubio-torn-acl-left-knee-done-season
December 30, 20213 yr Time for Kobe to find us a quality PG. And, no, not Kyrie. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 30, 20213 yr 1 hour ago, KJP said: Time for Kobe to find us a quality PG. And, no, not Kyrie. I think Mike Conley might be gettable from Utah - we'll have to deal Sexton and probably a draft pick, though
December 30, 20213 yr 27 minutes ago, YABO713 said: I think Mike Conley might be gettable from Utah - we'll have to deal Sexton and probably a draft pick, though I would do that in a heartbeat. But IDK if the salaries would line up
December 30, 20213 yr 1 hour ago, YABO713 said: I think Mike Conley might be gettable from Utah - we'll have to deal Sexton and probably a draft pick, though Why would the Jazz be down with that? 35 minutes ago, Ineffable_Matt said: I would do that in a heartbeat. But IDK if the salaries would line up Rubio+Sexton or Rubio+Cedi work salary-wise, but again I'm not sure why the Jazz would drop such a productive player when they're contending this year
December 30, 20213 yr Why would a contender trade their starting point guard? And why would the Cavs send out assets for a 34 year old player with 3 expensive years left on his contract? Losing Rubio and Sexton was awful, but now is not the time to sell out for shopworn veterans. If a young star becomes available, maybe you let go of some assets, but the strategy this year shouldn’t change because of injury. Keep the powder dry for next offseason. Everybody important on this team is under 25, the contention window hasn’t even opened yet. The Cavs have few truly tradable assets outside of their own picks; no reason to mortgage the future.
December 30, 20213 yr Cavs were playing well, but let's be realistic, they are still a couple years away from being a legitimate contender. Let's be patient.
December 31, 20213 yr https://www.si.com/.amp/nba/2021/12/31/cavaliers-showing-interest-acquiring-lakers-guard-rajon-rondo
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