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I liked this one a lot more than that cheesy disco song that preceded it:

 

 

Yep, that's "my" song. I guess they've had a lot of songs in their history, but this is the one I remember being played at Richfield Coliseum before my first ever games. I think it's great being sung by Michael Stanley and all, but I'm biased.

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Game 1 against the Warriors will be very telling.  I think the Cavs can only win if they can drag the game into the mud and turn it into an ugly series.  Their offense is too limited to outshoot Golden State.

 

I'm not so sure about that.  If Kyrie is anywhere close to full-go, our offense is anything but limited.  I think the team has actually proven to be quite versatile on that end of the floor.  We can score inside, we can score outside, we can score in transition, we can create our own shots, we can swing the ball.  Keep in mind that LeBron has not been at his best from an efficiency standpoint and Kyrie has not been Kyrie, yet we have cruised to the Finals.  Our defense has been solid, but our offense is not getting the credit it deserves.

 

Two things I perceive everyone is overlooking in a Cavs-Warriors series are (1) how good the Cavs offense is and (2) how good the Warriors defense is.

 

I'm starting to talk myself into thinking that they have a shot despite all of the injuries. I've been very impressed by the Cavs' outside shooters and by the way the Cavs have dominated the offensive boards. I looked at each team's PER yesterday, and while you have to take that stat with a grain of salt, I think that player-for-player the Cavs match up pretty well with them. Golden State is about 6 or 7 deep with solid talent, but the Cavs are as well.

Golden State it is

Golden State it is

 

Lets do it!

 

The Warriors are lying to you if they say they aren't significantly concerned about the cavs.  The cavs are tougher and probably more athletic.  Warriors are the better shooting team by far.  I don't see there being any double digits victories here.  This matchup kid of reminds me of the Buckeyes run this past year.  Going up against Oregon, everyone just said Oregon was better, more athletic, flashier..and they got completely beaten down by a stronger, more physical team.  Hello Cavs

Seen on a sports forum....

 

I'm Tired of the pundits

saying they can't beat the bulls with Rose playing.

 

I'm Tired of the pundits

saying they can't beat the hawks they play like the Spurs.

 

I'm Tired of the pundits

Now saying they beat a weak Eastern Conference.

 

I'm Tired of the pundits

saying they can't beat the Warriors they are too good.

 

Keep talking you heads

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I am so happy for Cleveland and the Cavs fans.  I don't watch too many NBA games during the regular season, but I've watched every game of the Bulls and Hawks series.

 

LeBron is so good you almost forget just how good he is.  Then consider that 3/5 of the starting team he took into the Finals were former Knicks.  That is the ultimate "making everyone around you better"!

^2/5.  JR comes off the bench

Game 1 against the Warriors will be very telling.  I think the Cavs can only win if they can drag the game into the mud and turn it into an ugly series.  Their offense is too limited to outshoot Golden State.

But the Cavs were #5 in 3pt shooting in the regular season and post season, as well as a top 4 offense during the regular season.

One note from last nights Golden State-Houston game, the Q is way more photogenic than Oracle Arena. I believe they're using fluorescent lights they found in a dumpster.

One note from last nights Golden State-Houston game, the Q is way more photogenic than Oracle Arena. I believe they're using fluorescent lights they found in a dumpster.

 

It's got to be one of the oldest buildings in the NBA....totally old school

Maybe, but I can actually respect that.  Far too many municipalities are ponying up far too much for new arenas when the old ones still have a lot of life left in them; I love the modern flash and dazzle but many places often pay way too much for it.  And if Golden State does get the title, I'm sure we'll hear of a push for a new billion-dollar arena somewhere on land that the Bay Area doesn't have.

 

Nationwide Arena cost $240 million in today's dollars ($175 million in 1999).  The Q cost $159 million in 2015 dollars ($100 million in 1994).  If they were planning it today, just a few years later, they'd feel peer pressure not to be so "cheap;" it seems like a new hockey or basketball arena goes for a minimum of $450 million these days.

Maybe, but I can actually respect that.  Far too many municipalities are ponying up far too much for new arenas when the old ones still have a lot of life left in them; I love the modern flash and dazzle but many places often pay way too much for it.  And if Golden State does get the title, I'm sure we'll hear of a push for a new billion-dollar arena somewhere on land that the Bay Area doesn't have.

 

Nationwide Arena cost $240 million in today's dollars ($175 million in 1999).  The Q cost $159 million in 2015 dollars ($100 million in 1994).  If they were planning it today, just a few years later, they'd feel peer pressure not to be so "cheap;" it seems like a new hockey or basketball arena goes for a minimum of $450 million these days.

 

The Warriors have been planning for a new arena for a couple of years now and it is supposed to be ready by 2018. It'll be in San Francisco.

Maybe, but I can actually respect that.  Far too many municipalities are ponying up far too much for new arenas when the old ones still have a lot of life left in them; I love the modern flash and dazzle but many places often pay way too much for it.  And if Golden State does get the title, I'm sure we'll hear of a push for a new billion-dollar arena somewhere on land that the Bay Area doesn't have.

 

Nationwide Arena cost $240 million in today's dollars ($175 million in 1999).  The Q cost $159 million in 2015 dollars ($100 million in 1994).  If they were planning it today, just a few years later, they'd feel peer pressure not to be so "cheap;" it seems like a new hockey or basketball arena goes for a minimum of $450 million these days.

 

The Warriors have been planning for a new arena for a couple of years now and it is supposed to be ready by 2018. It'll be in San Francisco.

 

Yeah I've seen renders of it. Right off the Embarcadero I think, over by AT&T Park. Not a big fan of overly flashy, new stadiums/arenas. But at least it's not in another city (Oakland) and the location is pretty good without being intrusive.

I wonder  if any city will take a gamble like Kansas city did again? They built the shiny new Sprint Center in hopes of attracting an NBA and or NHL franchise in 2007. 8 years later and still no major league franchise.

Maybe, but I can actually respect that.  Far too many municipalities are ponying up far too much for new arenas when the old ones still have a lot of life left in them; I love the modern flash and dazzle but many places often pay way too much for it.  And if Golden State does get the title, I'm sure we'll hear of a push for a new billion-dollar arena somewhere on land that the Bay Area doesn't have.

 

Nationwide Arena cost $240 million in today's dollars ($175 million in 1999).  The Q cost $159 million in 2015 dollars ($100 million in 1994).  If they were planning it today, just a few years later, they'd feel peer pressure not to be so "cheap;" it seems like a new hockey or basketball arena goes for a minimum of $450 million these days.

 

The Warriors have been planning for a new arena for a couple of years now and it is supposed to be ready by 2018. It'll be in San Francisco.

 

Yeah I've seen renders of it. Right off the Embarcadero I think, over by AT&T Park. Not a big fan of overly flashy, new stadiums/arenas. But at least it's not in another city (Oakland) and the location is pretty good without being intrusive.

 

Golden State has played in Oakland since 1971. The new arena would move them to San Fran.

San Francisco is 'another' city, not Oakland. 

 

I do think basketball is different than football.  I'm not sure if a basketball team can be profitable if they have to build their own facility without subsidies.  They only play 42 games in front of 20,000 people or less.  Maybe I'm wrong.

The thing with arenas is that they can hold multiple types of events aside from basketball.

That's true.  I was just thinking out loud (so to speak)

I'm kinda glad the pundits are saying Cleveland's the underdog.  As we've seen, LeBron HATES that term.  It should fire him up, and if he's fired up, you can bet he'll have "the kids" fired up too.

San Francisco is 'another' city, not Oakland. 

 

That was my point. I hate when teams aren't physically located in the cities they are named after. Hence why Oakland is "another" city.

 

I'm actually shocked that it took so long to move into the city limits. It's likely the most expensive time for them to make the change but they're only just doing it now.

Golden State Warriors, not San Francisco Warriors.  They could move to Bakersfield.

Golden State Warriors, not San Francisco Warriors.  They could move to Bakersfield.

 

The originally were the San Francisco Warriors and played in San Francisco, in the Cow Palace (actually in Daly City).  I guess they changed the name after they started playing in different venues in the area.

Golden State Warriors, not San Francisco Warriors.  They could move to Bakersfield.

 

The originally were the San Francisco Warriors and played in San Francisco, in the Cow Palace (actually in Daly City).  I guess they changed the name after they started playing in different venues in the area.

 

One idea during the Golden State rename was they would split "home" games between Oakland and San Diego.

How about those Eastern Conference Champion Cavs.  Who did it in a Sweep!  :clap:

California sports teams and their names are all messed up. Here are a few more examples:

 

UCLA plays its home football games in Pasadena.

The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim play in Anaheim. (This one might be the dumbest of all.)

The San Francisco 49ers are soon going to play in Santa Clara.

The San Jose Earthquakes have played in Santa Clara and Oakland.

The Los Angeles Galaxy have played in Carson, Fullerton, and Pasadena.

 

 

That said, the Cleveland Cavaliers once played in what is arguably an Akron suburb. I do vaguely remember hearing stories that there was talk of changing the name to the "Ohio Cavaliers" and playing games around the state.

California sports teams and their names are all messed up. Here are a few more examples:

 

UCLA plays its home football games in Pasadena.

The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim play in Anaheim. (This one might be the dumbest of all.)

The San Francisco 49ers are soon going to play in Santa Clara.

The San Jose Earthquakes have played in Santa Clara and Oakland.

The Los Angeles Galaxy have played in Carson, Fullerton, and Pasadena.

 

 

That said, the Cleveland Cavaliers once played in what is arguably an Akron suburb. I do vaguely remember hearing stories that there was talk of changing the name to the "Ohio Cavaliers" and playing games around the state.

 

I get more peeved about team names that have nothing to do with the region or city. Outside of some generic mascots (Lions, Tigers, Bears, Warriors, Giants, Titans), team names like the "Cavaliers" seem pretty random and detached from their home cities and regions, to say nothing of Indians, Braves, Chiefs, Redskins. Similarly, I really don't like names that did have meaning in their original setting, but didn't change when the team moved; I'm looking at you, Lakers, Dodgers, Colts, Jazz.

How about those Eastern Conference Champion Cavs.  Who did it in a Sweep!  :clap:

 

I love how NBA-TV keeps replaying the Cavs win over the Warriors from Feb. 26. At the rate they're replaying this game, the Cavs should have their finals sweep by tomorrow! :P

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I don't have any issue with team names if they're stadium is not in the namesake city. As long as they play within the namesake region it doesn't matter IMO.

 

On another note, this playoffs break is killing me!

California sports teams and their names are all messed up. Here are a few more examples:

 

UCLA plays its home football games in Pasadena.

The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim play in Anaheim. (This one might be the dumbest of all.)

The San Francisco 49ers are soon going to play in Santa Clara.

The San Jose Earthquakes have played in Santa Clara and Oakland.

The Los Angeles Galaxy have played in Carson, Fullerton, and Pasadena.

 

 

That said, the Cleveland Cavaliers once played in what is arguably an Akron suburb. I do vaguely remember hearing stories that there was talk of changing the name to the "Ohio Cavaliers" and playing games around the state.

 

That was Stepien making threats.  He also threatened to move them to Toronto.

Was this mural printed in November?? If so, that was some serious long-range predicting! If not, didn't the printer know that 2 out of three of the players on the mural won't be playing due to injury??

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^that's odd, but it definitely wasn't printed in November.  That has to be fairly recent.  No headband.

^^What, no Dion...?

Agree that it is odd, but I assume two more banners will go up with the other players.  Perhaps they included those two with Lebron just to show that they are still considered part of this team.

^that's odd, but it definitely wasn't printed in November.  That has to be fairly recent.  No headband.

 

Yep, just funnin'. I said dat cuz Andy was hurt in November.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Agree that it is odd, but I assume two more banners will go up with the other players.  Perhaps they included those two with Lebron just to show that they are still considered part of this team.

 

There are several banners going up all around the Q

California sports teams and their names are all messed up. Here are a few more examples:

 

UCLA plays its home football games in Pasadena.

The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim play in Anaheim. (This one might be the dumbest of all.)

The San Francisco 49ers are soon going to play in Santa Clara.

The San Jose Earthquakes have played in Santa Clara and Oakland.

The Los Angeles Galaxy have played in Carson, Fullerton, and Pasadena.

 

 

That said, the Cleveland Cavaliers once played in what is arguably an Akron suburb. I do vaguely remember hearing stories that there was talk of changing the name to the "Ohio Cavaliers" and playing games around the state.

 

I get more peeved about team names that have nothing to do with the region or city. Outside of some generic mascots (Lions, Tigers, Bears, Warriors, Giants, Titans), team names like the "Cavaliers" seem pretty random and detached from their home cities and regions, to say nothing of Indians, Braves, Chiefs, Redskins. Similarly, I really don't like names that did have meaning in their original setting, but didn't change when the team moved; I'm looking at you, Lakers, Dodgers, Colts, Jazz.

I had a dream last night of a Cavs finals sweep, got excited, woke up, then realized that it was a dream and got extremely sad for a few minutes!

All of the banners seem to be up. No love for J.R, Moz, or Delly.

 

Side Note: I just realized we don't wear the wine colored jersey's very often anymore.

 

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Very strange player selection in those banners. Five out of nine players shown won't play or are very unlikely to play in these finals.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

They aren't done. More banners will be hung

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Predictions?  This series seems like a hard one to call.  Cavs defense has been great in the playoffs (after not being great in the regular season).  The Warriors get all kinds of pub for their offense, but people forget they were the best defensive team in the league.  Lots of pieces that match up in a pretty interesting way--Bogut and Mozgov, Draymond Green on anyone, whoever has to guard LeBron, whoever has to guard Steph Curry. 

 

I assume that the strategy of the Warriors will be (or should be) to turn LeBron into a jump shooter.  He has not shot well on long 2's or 3's in the playoffs so far, but is obviously deadly when he gets in the lane (and can kick to shooters).  I think it will be really interesting to see how often the Cavs sit Mozgov and play Thompson at center, because he has been an absolute beast on the boards (of course the Thompson/Mozgov combo has absolutely killed everyone on the offensive glass in the playoffs).  If Thompson plays the 5, you conceivably have 4 guys who can switch up fairly well to handle Curry and Klay Thompson.  The Warriors could respond by sitting Bogut more and playing Green and Barnes down low.  If there are long stretches with small lineups like that, it could be some beautiful basketball by both teams, with great spacing and lots of up-and-down play. 

 

Really interested to see what the Cavs do defensively on Curry.  Irving is not a great defender even when healthy, but if he is slowed by injury it's hard to see him staying with Curry.  I don't know that JR Smith is the answer; Shumpert, maybe? 

 

This could be a great Finals.  Let's hope!

^Get ready for hack-a-Thompson.  They'll try to make us play smaller by making Thompson's foul shooting a big liability late in quarters.

THis will be a tough pick for me only because I really don't know the warriors all too well.  The "experts" are pretty ridiculous.  They keep pointing to regular season and home court and depth as to why the warriors will win.  1.) Regular season you can throw away...it means nothing in the finals.  If you want to talk about the regular season, lets look at how the cavs manhandleded the warriors in Cleveland and competed well against them without Lebron or shumpert in Oakland.  2.) At this level, anyone can win on the road, home court is more about the fans.  3.) I still think the cavs have a stronger 3-7 than the warriors do.  Smith, Thompson Mozgov Shumpert > green, barnes, Bogut and Livingston.  The media is just trashing those 3-7 for the cavs and it makes no sense.

 

This warriors team reminds me of the 2012 thunder, hot and talented but hasn't been at this level before.  The cavs are and will continue to be the tougher team.  unless the cavs get insanely cold and effort lacks like 2010 Celtics series...I don't see how the Cavs lose this series.  I don't think there will be a game with more than a 10 point differential.  The cavs certainly will not be blown out.

I have a somewhat-jaded friend in NYC who has been needling me about how JR Smith will let us down, just wait.  Then again, I think he said that when we were playing the Bulls, too.

 

Realistically, I give it to the Warriors in 6 simply because of health.  At this point, basketball is an endurance sport as much as anything else and no matter how brave a face the team puts on it (and how well they did against Atlanta), we've got a gimpy Kyrie, no Love, a banged-up LeBron, and some other folks with signs of wear and tear as well.  We're at our healthiest now, with a long rest, but we have to expend that fighting on Golden State's home floor.  Come games 3-4 when we come back to the Q, I don't know how much we can reasonably expect to have left.  LeBron all but willed us through Atlanta and I know he's going to try to do the same here, but we just have too many lame horses to pull this chariot.

^Get ready for hack-a-Thompson.  They'll try to make us play smaller by making Thompson's foul shooting a big liability late in quarters.

 

I'm not sure hack-a-Thompson works for TT.  He's been shooting around 60%+ ever since he switched to the right hand, and I believe he's right around there for the playoffs.  If he can keep that up, Golden State would have to shot 40% 3's and 60% 2's just to break even.

I don't care about anyone's theories or reasons as to why the Cavs will lose, statistics, injuries or whatever. It's real obvious this is going to be tough for both teams. I am so proud of what this team was able to accomplish and all I can say is GO CAVS, I'm IN!

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