July 7, 20159 yr MoFlo Leonard was drafted by the Pacers. Technically correct, but he was picked with the intent of trading him to the Spirs that same night for George Hill. So he was chosen by the Spurs brass No scored 52 in a game this year, 4th highest of the season. The guy he will be backing up had two of those four games :lol:
July 7, 20159 yr West would have to be VERY interested in playing for a winner to accept such a huge cut in pay. Well he was and he did. The Spurs will be nasty next year.
July 9, 20159 yr @kevinlove Today it's inked and official. I did this video to talk about my reasons for returning to Cleveland http://t.co/KK1kk6mGEU @PlayersTribune "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 9, 20159 yr LeBron, through his agent, has officially announced he is going to sign another 1-and-1. So much for those 'sources' saying that he won't commit until the Cavs re-signed TT. An interesting note to this is that it is the first time in his career that LeBron has been an unrestricted free agent and decided to re-sign with his team.
July 9, 20159 yr So in looking at a solid depth chart we have for sure: PG - Irving, Williams SG - Shumpert, Harris SF - James, ? PF - Love, Thompson C - Mozgov, Varejao Am I missing anyone? I'll update it as we go along, I just wanted to lay something out to look out. Some interchangeable parts there as well.
July 9, 20159 yr ^Smokin' Joe Harris. Also, TT is not back 'for sure' yet, but it is about as close to sure as you can get As for the depth chart, I suspect Shump starts. He can guard the best perimeter player on either team and doesn't demand touches to be effective so he is somewhat of a perfect 2 to put between LBJ and Kyrie I think Delly returns and they keep Christmas on the team, so that gets us to 10, with 5 open spots. JR Smith is not a lock to return, but I'd say it is better than 50/50 at this point. For right now, I'd bet they wait to see what they get back for Haywood's contract, if anything, before rounding out the roster.
July 9, 20159 yr So in looking at a solid depth chart we have for sure: PG - Irving, Williams SG - Shumpert, Harris SF - James, ? PF - Love, Thompson C - Mozgov, Varejao Am I missing anyone? I'll update it as we go along, I just wanted to lay something out to look out. Some interchangeable parts there as well. Seeing the depth as "Shumpert, Harris" in printed form makes me want to re-sign JR asap.
July 9, 20159 yr Mike Miller returning. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 10, 20159 yr I have some hope that Harris can become a solid role player. He has the size, build, technique and athleticism. He just needs to get some swagger about him
July 10, 20159 yr ^ I think Harris has the talent to play and impact in the NBA. For whatever reason I think of Danny Greene when I think of Harris. I think Harris is more athletic than Greene and can do a little more than just hit threes. I just hope Harris doesn't have the same path to being an impact player somewhere else...hope the cavs can grow him.
July 10, 20159 yr I have some hope that Harris can become a solid role player. He has the size, build, technique and athleticism. He just needs to get some swagger about him Swagger? ;) "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 10, 20159 yr I have some hope that Harris can become a solid role player. He has the size, build, technique and athleticism. He just needs to get some swagger about him If by Swagger you mean confidence, I agree. I like Harris a lot; he absolutely has the tools you mention including, most importantly, an outside shot. I know Harris was on the Cleveland-to-Canton yo-yo much of the season, but it's up to Blatt to get the kid more playing time at the NBA level this upcoming season . ... Last year was a learning experience for Blatt and the team, as well. And one thing we learned, the hard way, is that we need to go into the playoff wars with as many weapons, and as deep a team, as possible. We need not kill our players (like LeBron) attempting to run up a gawdy regular season record. The Larry O'Brien trophy is where all the Cavs' focus should be -- and we almost got there with this thrown-together group last year. The Golden State Warriors, as well as the major depletion of talent on the Cavs and other playoff teams, tended to turn the old 'shorten-your-bench' playoff scenario on its head. We also learned that, really, the regular season doesn't mean that much. The Cavs will obviously make the playoffs at one of the high, if not the highest, seeds. So with our highly talented diverse team, we really need to use the season to polish our tools, meaning building up confidence of talented players like Harris for that war following the regular season.
July 10, 20159 yr ^ I agree regarding Blatt. I mean the regular season is pretty much worthless, with the exception of a few big statement games. WHy not try Harris in a few different ways early and often. If it doesn't work out by February or March, put him back on the bench. The regular season should be treated like spring training. See if you have any pieces that will put you closer to the ultimate prize. Don't know why we need an 8 man rotation October-January
July 10, 20159 yr ^^not really. GS took control of the series when it shortened its own bench, only playing seven for any significant amount of minutes in games 4-6. It's a time tested strategy. The problem was that, with the Cavs injuries, their seven was better than our seven
July 10, 20159 yr Allie Clifton @FSOAllieOop 16m16 minutes ago #Cavs make it official announcing the signing of free agent G Mo Williams... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 10, 20159 yr Williams, who reached the playoffs twice with the Cavaliers in 2009 and 2010 has played in 49 career playoff games (25 starts), holding averages of 12.0 points and 2.1 rebounds in 29.4 minutes per game. Those numbers for a starting combo guard are terrible. The minutes are lower than I would have guessed. Was he benched or hurt at all those two playoff runs? I remember Delonte West playing a lot against Orlando. I hope he doesn't have to play significant minutes in the playoffs (stay healthy Kyrie).
July 10, 20159 yr ^I recall him being great in the regular seasons and then somewhat fading to the background (or disappearing) during the playoff runs. As the back-up, he won't be in the same situation as before; hopefully that takes some of the stress off of him.
July 10, 20159 yr Official press release from the Cavs...... http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/releases/james-signing-150710 Posted: Jul 10, 2015 Cavaliers Re-sign Forward LeBron James CLEVELAND, OH – The Cleveland Cavaliers have re-signed forward LeBron James, General Manager David Griffin announced today from Cleveland Clinic Courts. Per league and team policy, terms of the contracts were not released. "LeBron's re-signing today is a reflection and continuation of his strong, personal commitment to help deliver championships to Northeast Ohio and Cavs fans everywhere," said Griffin. "We share this deep level of commitment with him. His impact upon this team, his community and the game are impossible to overstate and we look forward to continuing on our mission together." James, a four-time MVP and 11-time NBA All-Star, appeared in 69 regular season games (all starts) for the Cavaliers in 2014-15 with averages of 25.3 points (3rd in NBA) on .488 shooting from the field, 6.0 rebounds, 7.4 assists (7th in NBA) and 1.6 steals in 36.1 minutes. It was James' 11th consecutive season averaging at least 25.0 points per game, which is tied with Karl Malone (1987-88 to 1997-98) and Jerry West (1961-62 to 1971-72) for the most consecutive seasons averaging at least 25.0 points in NBA history (min. 30 games). James earned All-NBA First Team honors and was also the Kia NBA Eastern Conference Player of the Month twice in 2014-15 (February and March), as well as the Player of the Week three times (week ending Nov. 16, Nov. 30 & Jan. 25). James was one of only three players in the NBA to tally 1,700 points, 500 assists, 400 rebounds and 100 steals (James Harden, Russell Westbrook). The 6-8 forward scored in double figures in all 69 games, increasing his consecutive double-digit scoring streak to 641 (third-longest streak in NBA history). In addition to scoring in double figures every game he appeared in, James had 52 games of at least 20 points, 18 games of at least 30 points and three 40-point outings. He also registered 22 double-doubles and two triple-doubles. The Akron, Ohio native remains the franchise’s leader in points scored (16,994), scoring average (27.5), field goals made (6,039), three-pointers made (891), free throws made (4,025), assists (4,321), steals (1,064) and minutes played (24,601). Over his 12-year NBA career, James has appeared in 911 regular season games (910 starts) with averages of 27.3 points, 7.1 rebounds, 6.9 assists, 1.7 steals and 39.3 minutes, while shooting .496 from the floor, .342 from three-point range and .745 from the foul line. For his postseason career, James has appeared in 178 playoff contests (all starts) with averages of 28.2 points, 8.8 rebounds, 6.7 assists and 1.7 steals in 42.5 minutes per game. He started in all 20 games during the Cavs’ NBA Finals run in the 2015 Playoffs, recording an NBA-high 14 double-doubles (three triple-doubles) and averaging 30.1 points, 11.3 rebounds, 8.5 assists, 1.7 steals and 1.1 blocks in 42.2 minutes per game. He joined Oscar Robertson as the only players in league playoff history to average at least 30.0 points, 11.0 rebounds and 8.0 assists in a single postseason. ### "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 10, 20159 yr ^^Not so much during the first playoff run. The second run, yes he played poorly. That is the lasting memory people have, I suppose.
July 10, 20159 yr ^^not really. GS took control of the series when it shortened its own bench, only playing seven for any significant amount of minutes in games 4-6. It's a time tested strategy. The problem was that, with the Cavs injuries, their seven was better than our seven I'm talking about the whole series. I don't see GSW shortening their bench when they starting brought in David Lee from never-never land and banished Bogut. He also, of course famously, moved Iguodala from the bench to starter with significant minutes. And Mo Speights, who was perhaps THE key player that saved GSW in Game 1 with big shots to pull GSW back into the game from our big lead, disappeared totally after that missed dunk and Game 2 loss. ... The bottom line is that Kerr had/has a very deep well in which to pull guys from -- a bunch of fresh guys, ready to stick in critical situations which, ultimately, pulled GSW back from the bring them back from the dead, where we had them on the brink in Game 3, to coming back and winning the series. Whether Blatt plays all his bench in the finals (if we hopefully make it back next year), he should have learned the lesson to have ready-to-plug-in players which he clearly didn't after the 2 key injuries to Love and then Kyrie. Of course even as I type this, I still have to recognize the miracle we witnessed -- and they testament to the greatness of LeBron, that we went all the way to the finals, and were 2 wins from the Title, with such a banged up team. But even still, Griffin's job is to eliminate the dead weight from the team this year -- no more Haywoods or Perkins or Millers, although I've heard LeBron want's Miller back... I could see keeping Jones because he can give us some instant catch 'n shoot offense.
July 12, 20159 yr Have they signed LeBron yet, or is he waiting for Tristan? You might want to give up.
July 12, 20159 yr Yes they signed LeBron. No one has given up on Tristan. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 12, 20159 yr Don't forget that Tristan is a restricted FA. We can match any offer he gets and he won't get one better than what is on the table. My guess is the two sides are haggling over the length of the deal and the inclusion of player or team options on the back end of it. TT's camp is probably threatening to sign the one year tender the Cavs had to extend to secure their rights to him, which would make him an unrestricted FA next summer when the cap jumps. He's as close to injury proof as you get so he can take the risk
July 12, 20159 yr David Griffin: Cavs still want J.R. Smith back, Tristan Thompson's deal could take time: David Griffin talked to… http://t.co/0ZoLTf5b5q "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 21, 20159 yr Sounds like Richard Jefferson is going to sign with the Cavs to be the back-up wing. Other than his rather brief 'prime' with NJ, I never really liked RJ. I would've rather taking a chance on a younger player. It also seems like JR Smith has struck out on trying to find a deal elsewhere and will have to swallow some pride to return to the Cavs. He should not have opted out of his deal. He'll have to pay the price for that most likely with less money.
July 21, 20159 yr ^ yeah jayy arrr should have hooked up with lebron's agent. i need fifty makes in a row out in front of the garage before he's allowed to come back in the house out of that guy every day this summer.
July 21, 20159 yr Not a huge fan of the Richard Jefferson signing, but not sure what other options there were.
July 22, 20159 yr NBA on ESPN @ESPNNBA 11h11 hours ago As it stands now, @cavs have the best odds to win the NBA Championship next season. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 26, 20159 yr I think that's pretty common, even when city/name changes occur. The Browns situation is actually not all that normal.
July 27, 20159 yr Cavs trade Haywood, Miller to blazers for separate trade exceptions. also future 2nd-round picks to Portland. More... Cavaliers trade Mike Miller, Brendan Haywood and draft picks to Portland Trail Blazers to ease tax bill and create trade exceptions http://t.co/5nOovAp0Nc "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 27, 20159 yr Delly has inked a new 1yr/$1.2m deal So he took the qualifying offer... just a little bit smaller than the 2 years, $8M he wanted.
July 27, 20159 yr All we really needed to do is bring back the guys we had and we'd be the odds on fave to return to the Finals, and quite possibly win if we're healthy... But we've done much better than that with the additions of Mo and Jefferson... And really, getting Andy back will be like getting a brand new player because Andy's never played with the core group we acquired mid-season (Shumpert, JR and Mozgov) so he will an added bonus and really make our frontcourt very deep. Griffin was smart and clearing away dead-wood guys like Miller and Haywood, and the trade exceptions we got back can be usable to grab a guy midseason which, hopefully, will be an insurance championship LOCK guy... All good with the Cavs now; just let's ink Tristan and JR and we'll be done until the season opener.
July 27, 20159 yr Serious question, how much do people really think JR is worth to re-sign? I was actually a little surprised that he declined his $6.4 million player option given the way he kind of fizzled under pressure towards the end of the season, particularly when most needed. I know he had/has explosive potential but he had some serious, serious consistency issues, and to win the title, you need consistency because you've got to pick up four out of seven from the best other teams in the league. Gilbert is willing to spend like crazy so it might not matter, but even Gilbert has to have his limits (and the team so far has been able to acquire depth at a pretty reasonable price this offseason). Maybe I have an anchored bias because I have a friend in NYC who was very bearish on Smith and was definitely not sorry to see him leave NY, and I laughed for a while while Smith was performing well towards the mid-late season, but the postseason has me wondering whether my NY friend might have a point.
July 27, 20159 yr Serious question, how much do people really think JR is worth to re-sign? I was actually a little surprised that he declined his $6.4 million player option given the way he kind of fizzled under pressure towards the end of the season, particularly when most needed. I know he had/has explosive potential but he had some serious, serious consistency issues, and to win the title, you need consistency because you've got to pick up four out of seven from the best other teams in the league. Gilbert is willing to spend like crazy so it might not matter, but even Gilbert has to have his limits (and the team so far has been able to acquire depth at a pretty reasonable price this offseason). Maybe I have an anchored bias because I have a friend in NYC who was very bearish on Smith and was definitely not sorry to see him leave NY, and I laughed for a while while Smith was performing well towards the mid-late season, but the postseason has me wondering whether my NY friend might have a point. I honestly think the Cavs will bring him back for the $6.4M that he turned down. Because we didn't really find that stretch 2 we were looking for this summer and because the summer bidding is pretty much closed, JR has a stronger hand than when he thumbed the deal. Also LeBron said he wants him back which, as we know, might as well be from On High as far as the Cavs are concerned. Plus I tend to get the feeling that the Cavs will refrain from sticking it to the guy. Yes, the world knows that he blew it and he's been publicly humbled/humiliated in the media as a result, but I think Griffin/Gilbert will let him save face and bring him back for the $6.4M. We've got most of last year's gang back under contract with Delly's signing today, and we need to get them all back ... happy.
July 27, 20159 yr ^^ He's worth having on the team as long as the cavs don't have to lean on him as a major contributor. Someone will sign him for less than his opt-out. ^^^ I know i may sound like a broken record, but I wouldn't be so optimistic about Andy's future health. He hasn't put a full season together since 09-10
July 27, 20159 yr Serious question, how much do people really think JR is worth to re-sign? I was actually a little surprised that he declined his $6.4 million player option given the way he kind of fizzled under pressure towards the end of the season, particularly when most needed. I know he had/has explosive potential but he had some serious, serious consistency issues, and to win the title, you need consistency because you've got to pick up four out of seven from the best other teams in the league. Gilbert is willing to spend like crazy so it might not matter, but even Gilbert has to have his limits (and the team so far has been able to acquire depth at a pretty reasonable price this offseason). Maybe I have an anchored bias because I have a friend in NYC who was very bearish on Smith and was definitely not sorry to see him leave NY, and I laughed for a while while Smith was performing well towards the mid-late season, but the postseason has me wondering whether my NY friend might have a point. Didn't JR play a huge role during that 30-3 stretch? I know that's regular season, but I think it's indicative of the kind of continual upside we'll get with even more chemistry.
July 27, 20159 yr Serious question, how much do people really think JR is worth to re-sign? I was actually a little surprised that he declined his $6.4 million player option given the way he kind of fizzled under pressure towards the end of the season, particularly when most needed. I know he had/has explosive potential but he had some serious, serious consistency issues, and to win the title, you need consistency because you've got to pick up four out of seven from the best other teams in the league. Gilbert is willing to spend like crazy so it might not matter, but even Gilbert has to have his limits (and the team so far has been able to acquire depth at a pretty reasonable price this offseason). Maybe I have an anchored bias because I have a friend in NYC who was very bearish on Smith and was definitely not sorry to see him leave NY, and I laughed for a while while Smith was performing well towards the mid-late season, but the postseason has me wondering whether my NY friend might have a point. Didn't JR play a huge role during that 30-3 stretch? I know that's regular season, but I think it's indicative of the kind of continual upside we'll get with even more chemistry. And he had a huge game against the Hawks in the playoffs when we needed it.
July 28, 20159 yr Sing it with me!! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 28, 20159 yr This is a new term for me. I may have heard it before, but I don't recall. Would somebody explain in in very simple language what " trade exceptions" mean and how it may help us? kthanksbye
July 28, 20159 yr Serious question, how much do people really think JR is worth to re-sign? I was actually a little surprised that he declined his $6.4 million player option given the way he kind of fizzled under pressure towards the end of the season, particularly when most needed. I know he had/has explosive potential but he had some serious, serious consistency issues, and to win the title, you need consistency because you've got to pick up four out of seven from the best other teams in the league. Gilbert is willing to spend like crazy so it might not matter, but even Gilbert has to have his limits (and the team so far has been able to acquire depth at a pretty reasonable price this offseason). Maybe I have an anchored bias because I have a friend in NYC who was very bearish on Smith and was definitely not sorry to see him leave NY, and I laughed for a while while Smith was performing well towards the mid-late season, but the postseason has me wondering whether my NY friend might have a point. JR seemed to thrive a bit more playing for a contending team, but you're right, he's still very inconsistent. He can't be the Cavs nightly third, or even fourth option, but if they can bring him back he'll give them a spark from time-to-time when other players are having off nights. He's the type of veteran championship teams need to have to come off the bench.
July 28, 20159 yr This is a new term for me. I may have heard it before, but I don't recall. Would somebody explain in in very simple language what " trade exceptions" mean and how it may help us? kthanksbye Here's a good description.... http://midlevelexceptional.com/2014/07/03/nba-salary-cap-trade-exception/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 28, 20159 yr ^^JR has always been a streaky shooter, so you can't live or die with his scoring. But the other facets of his game really surprised me last season and I watch the NBA regularly. His basketball IQ was much higher than I expected and his defense was outstanding at times. The bottom line is that we can't find a better option to fill out the roster..... not even close.
July 28, 20159 yr This is a new term for me. I may have heard it before, but I don't recall. Would somebody explain in in very simple language what " trade exceptions" mean and how it may help us? kthanksbye Here's a good description.... http://midlevelexceptional.com/2014/07/03/nba-salary-cap-trade-exception/ Thanks, KJP[/member] Too many words
July 28, 20159 yr ^^ He's worth having on the team as long as the cavs don't have to lean on him as a major contributor. Someone will sign him for less than his opt-out. ^^^ I know i may sound like a broken record, but I wouldn't be so optimistic about Andy's future health. He hasn't put a full season together since 09-10 I do feel like his health will fair better next season because he shouldn't be starting over Moz. Coming off the bench should preserve his body more.
July 28, 20159 yr This is a new term for me. I may have heard it before, but I don't recall. Would somebody explain in in very simple language what " trade exceptions" mean and how it may help us? kthanksbye Here's a good description.... http://midlevelexceptional.com/2014/07/03/nba-salary-cap-trade-exception/ Thanks, KJP[/member] Too many words In the NBA, trades can only occur when the salaries of the players being exchanged come close to matching. It is something like 15%. You can't trade a guy who makes $10mill for a guy who makes $1mill....... unless, the team you are trading him to is under the salary cap in an amount equal to or greater than the difference... and then, in addition to the player who makes $1mill, you get a 'trade exception' from that team for the difference. You then have 1 year to use that trade exception to use in another unbalanced salary trade. Only teams that are under the cap can 'create' a trade exception, as Portland did here. But we can then use it to fill the gap in any salaries in another trade over the next year, or it expires.
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