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    The Land has been one of the nicknames for Cleveland since the mid-90s at least, specifically within the Black Community and within Hip-Hop culture. That along with C-Town, which more people may be fa

  • massive team effort & big win on espn vs okc tonight — awesome game and superb coaching and substitutions — anyway, i watched most of it out, but the end back at our dystopian atlanta hotel - 😂🎉

  • Great win! Six-and-one!! Great to see Garland and Mitchell together for a full game. Those two are going to be magical as they play together more. 

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Cleveland sports teams never get a break, unless it's a metacarpal, ulna, femur, etc.

 

Edited by skiwest

12 hours ago, skiwest said:

Cleveland sports teams never get a break, unless it's a metacarpal, ulna, femur, etc.

 

 

Didn't you notice Kansas City last night with a patchwork offensive line? Or their quarterback with a bum foot? Cleveland doesn't have an a monopoly on injured players. 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

6 minutes ago, KJP said:

 

Didn't you notice Kansas City last night with a patchwork offensive line? Or their quarterback with a bum foot? Cleveland doesn't have an a monopoly on injured players. 

One could even argue that Mahomes has not been the same since the Mack Wilson hit in the Browns game.   

On 2/8/2021 at 9:42 PM, KJP said:

 

Didn't you notice Kansas City last night with a patchwork offensive line? Or their quarterback with a bum foot? Cleveland doesn't have an a monopoly on injured players. 

Well, the Chiefs won the Super Bowl last year.  They have appeared in four Super Bowls, winning it twice.  The Browns have yet to get there.  The Royals won the World Series a few years ago, and also in 1985.  The last Indians World Series win was in 1948.   So I'd say Kansas City's sports teams are faring better than Cleveland's teams.

 

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Drummond is earning over $250,000 per game, and he is not even playing.  It's crazy.  The NBA is crazy.  The world is crazy.

 

I don't think they'll be able to pick up much firepower for Drummond... so I'm beginning to think the tank is in, yet again, for the Cavs this season.  

I'm glad the Cavs won the championship in 2016.  It will never happen again.  At least not in my lifetime.

That was an exciting time for me to live in Cleveland. I remember hearing a lot of gunshots going off right after they won. I hope it had to do with the game.

Playing for lottery balls again.  

I looked at the Cavs lineup the other night and just got so disgusted - I mean, half the team is out! K Love has spent more time in a suit on the sidelines than he’s played since LeBron left.  Retrospective I know, but the Cavs never should have given him that new contract.  
 

And now, not playing Drummond - what kind of a message does it send the players, the fans and the league.  Think his value is going up day by day? 
 

This franchise did nothing without Lebron the first time and so far, other than a promising 20 first games this year- they’ve been perennial contenders for the most lottery balls. 
 

Yeah, “be the fight” - sorry, I’m not buying it. 
 

 

Edited by CleveFan

I dunno.  Poor drafting.  Questionable management decisions. Head coaching changes every couple of years.  Brittle, injury-prone players.  Their conditioning program, or lack of one, might be a factor.

 

 

Edited by skiwest

impressive that the shorthanded cavs have won four in a row. sexton went off last night although it was against john wall and his lowly rockets.

 

it seems we are solid for pg's and in the middle, but weak in the sg's a forwards. can't wait for nance to get back. he's the d, we cant have it always rely on garland or sexton to score big to win. and maybe love will be back too, we need them, but in the meantime you gotta admire the coaching and the motivated drive of this team at times.

It seems like that win vs. Hawks boosted their confidence.  Love probably won't be back until after the All-start break.

42 minutes ago, mrnyc said:

impressive that the shorthanded cavs have won four in a row. sexton went off last night although it was against john wall and his lowly rockets.

 

it seems we are solid for pg's and in the middle, but weak in the sg's a forwards. can't wait for nance to get back. he's the d, we cant have it always rely on garland or sexton to score big to win. and maybe love will be back too, we need them, but in the meantime you gotta admire the coaching and the motivated drive of this team at times.

Sexton is straight up a SG. I think the team realizes this now. Darius definitely has the reins of the offense when both are on the court. They do desperately need a scoring forward and more functional PF play (despite Wade playing relatively well). Obviously Love and Nance will fill a huge gap. A veteran backup PG for next season will be at the top of the off-season to do list I would think.

  • 4 weeks later...

Wtf are the Cavs doing? Are they playing for lottery balls once again?

They gave up about 2 months ago. They were a fairly decent team in January.  They definitely did not want to make the playoffs. So they sat Drummond. Had they played people that could’ve played they would be a solid .500 and above team. Now they get some ping pong balls. 

7 hours ago, skiwest said:

Wtf are the Cavs doing? Are they playing for lottery balls once again?

 

On 2/16/2021 at 10:49 AM, Oldmanladyluck said:

I don't think they'll be able to pick up much firepower for Drummond... so I'm beginning to think the tank is in, yet again, for the Cavs this season.  

Yep.

  • 4 months later...

It's time to start holding the Cavs accountable for their performance.  In four years after LeBron left the first time, the Cavs won a total of 97 games.

Since he's left the second time, they've won 60 in three years.  I greatly appreciate that we won a championship in 2016, but at what point do we at least become playoff capable again?   21-22 has to be the year management produces a team that is competitive and committed to making the playoffs.  It's great having a beautiful new version of RMFH, but the team has to step up.  

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10 hours ago, mrnyc said:

Def an interesting situation. You really don’t see a star(ish) player with that many years on a contract and at that age become available very often. It would be a shame to let some of our core pieces go but if the price is something like Sexton/Okoro/2 top 3 protected picks I think you have to consider it. I think it comes down to how long Philly is willing to wait.

  • 4 weeks later...

welp its on for the nba season as of last night.

 

cavs are not favored at all tonight with memphis, but slightly favored at the home opener against charlotte friday.

 

i see tix as low as $16.

 

for comparison lowest priced tix are $5 at memphis tonight and $34 for me at msg on nov 7 for the knicks. ugh. maybe i'll wait for them to visit the nets nov 22 as low tix are $11 lol.

Let's hope they can avoid the injury bug that plagued them last season... and plagued the Tribe this year... and is plaguing the Browns this year.

 

Edited by LibertyBlvd

They’ll be bad again this year but fun to watch I think. A lot hinges on Garland making another leap and Sexton maintaining his production. Having an actual bench unit and backup PG this year with Rubio/Love/Markkanen should get them at least a couple more wins. It’s gonna be fun watching Mobley on defense, but his offense is still very raw. It’ll be interesting to see how long they stick with 3 non-shooters (Mobley/Okoro/Allen) in the starting lineup. If the offense stalls they’ll at least have to think about going super big and switching out Markkanen for Okoro. Like I said, I think it will be a fun team but anything over 30 wins will be a surprise to me. One more lottery pick and another year of seasoning should have them battling for playoffs next year (hopefully).

big positives against memphis for the opener are the cavs hung in there until the end and mobley had a good career start.

 

if sexton/garland can wake it up and do better than what looks like the memphis guards did i think maybe they can win tonight.

 

this is an interesting team and if not on a home visit i definitely will try to see them live out east here when i can.

 

 

 

Edited by mrnyc

cavs are off to an feisty and entertaining start at 2-2.

 

wish i would have seen this game, but the nuggets win highlights are well worth a watch -- check'em out!

 

https://www.espn.com/nba/recap?gameId=401359872

  • 2 weeks later...

Cavs just beat two good teams on the road and are now 7-4. BTW, Evan Mobley is going to be a star.

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

It's nice to finally have some 'bigs" in the lineup. Who would have thought the Cavs would have a better record than the Browns at this point?

and just like that sexton is out indefinitely with a knee injury. if he needed acl surgery hes done for the season. uuuugghh!

I wonder how this team would look if we had traded for basket case Ben Simmons. We are already super tall and switchy; having Simmons's length at the one would be pretty sweet, and our guards are undersized.

25 minutes ago, mrnyc said:

and just like that sexton is out indefinitely with a knee injury. if he needed acl surgery hes done for the season. uuuugghh!

Hate to say it, but the team might be better off. Sexton has been awful this year. This also allows JB to move Okoro into the starting lineup at his natural position. The defense is gonna be nasty. I was worried about this lineup before the season, but Mobley is more of an offensive threat than I thought he would be this early. 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Hate to say it, but the team might be better off. Sexton has been awful this year. This also allows JB to move Okoro into the starting lineup at his natural position. The defense is gonna be nasty. I was worried about this lineup before the season, but Mobley is more of an offensive threat than I thought he would be this early. 

Sexton has been “awful” this year? The dude is averaging 16 pts on 45% FG in a new scheme where he doesn’t have to put up 25.


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Sexton has been “awful” this year? The dude is averaging 16 pts on 45% FG in a new scheme where he doesn’t have to put up 25.


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His best skill is making buckets, so league average shooting (22%(!) on 3s) on relatively high volume isn’t very valuable. He’s still a very bad defender, although he tries hard. He’s just bad at reading rotations. Advanced stats have never been his friend, even last year when he was undeniably good. But all of those numbers have cratered (small sample size of course). Pretty much any advanced measure has him as one of the very worst players in the league. I don’t think he’s anywhere near that bad but I also don’t think he’s much more than a replacement level player with one elite skill (getting to the rack) that gives everything back on the defensive side. He’s still young so I certainly wouldn’t give him away, but I’m not sure he’s a winning player.

 

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nba-player-ratings/

^ well now that we are without him, i guess we will find out if your theory holds correct immediately. i don't disagree, but who will be better? okoro being back? we will see.

1 hour ago, mrnyc said:

^ well now that we are without him, i guess we will find out if your theory holds correct immediately. i don't disagree, but who will be better? okoro being back? we will see.

 

We are gonna miss his buckets, absolutely. 

 

I think it's asking too much to believe we'll get consistent scoring from guys like Okoro, Rubio, Mobley, Cedi, etc. 

40 minutes ago, surfohio said:

 

We are gonna miss his buckets, absolutely. 

 

I think it's asking too much to believe we'll get consistent scoring from guys like Okoro, Rubio, Mobley, Cedi, etc. 

It’s gonna be real rough until Love and Markkanen come back. I would expect those two and Mobley will eat up the shots. 

Man are these Cavs fun to watch!  It is to essentially already know that we got a generational talent in Mobley!  9-5 with injuries and having to play a tough schedule right off the bat.

39 minutes ago, cle_guy90 said:

Man are these Cavs fun to watch!  It is to essentially already know that we got a generational talent in Mobley!  9-5 with injuries and having to play a tough schedule right off the bat.

 

Right? I've been visiting reddit/r/nba quite a bit and the whole league is hopping on the Mobley/Cavs bandwagon. It's so fun to see! 

I can’t believe we get to have Mobley on our team. 
 

Also, I think everybody underestimated how badly we needed a backup PG. Even when he’s been bad shooting, Rubio makes a huge difference. As a reminder, we started Damyean Dotson at PG multiple games last year.

Edited by bumsquare

You can tell the team is doing well because there's an increasing amount of grumbling on local sports-twitter about the cable companies managing to finagle a blackout on local streaming coverage.

On 11/13/2021 at 9:48 PM, bumsquare said:

It’s gonna be real rough until Love and Markkanen come back. I would expect those two and Mobley will eat up the shots. 

 

 

they eased him in and okoro made his free throws, but went ofer on the floor.

 

hopefully he gets the shooting groove going tonight with the celtics rematch.

 

speaking of, i better grab my tix for the nets on weds!

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