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Looks good. Should fit in well with all the family friendly stuff there already.

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I can only imagine the ride op asking "Riders, how was your ride?"

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  • 3 weeks later...

hey now!

 

 

Looks like Dragster (as we know it) will be no more, I am curious to see how it is reimagined. 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, DevolsDance said:

Looks like Dragster (as we know it) will be no more, I am curious to see how it is reimagined. 

 

 

 

That’s a bummer, but that ride went down so often this isn’t surprising. Maybe if they upgrade the thrust mechanism it would be more reliable.  

When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?

1 hour ago, Boomerang_Brian said:

That’s a bummer, but that ride went down so often this isn’t surprising. Maybe if they upgrade the thrust mechanism it would be more reliable.  

I thought I read they were closing it due to the fatality a year or two ago?  

23 minutes ago, Cleburger said:

I thought I read they were closing it due to the fatality a year or two ago?  

 

Never a fatality but sadly there was a pretty intense injury to someone who was standing in line during the malfunction. The guest was hit by a piece of steel that shredded off the launch fins during a run, ultimately being placed in a medically induced coma and will have long term complications. 

 

Overall Cedar Point was not found guilty of any operations negligence or deferred maintenance but I think it led them to take a serious look at the ride which really has always been plagued by issues. Doesn't sound like the ride is gone gone gone but it will resemble a very different form or thrill once they "reimagine" it. 

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20 minutes ago, DevolsDance said:

 

Never a fatality but sadly there was a pretty intense injury to someone who was standing in line during the malfunction. The guest was hit by a piece of steel that shredded off the launch fins during a run, ultimately being placed in a medically induced coma and will have long term complications. 

 

Overall Cedar Point was not found guilty of any operations negligence or deferred maintenance but I think it led them to take a serious look at the ride which really has always been plagued by issues. Doesn't sound like the ride is gone gone gone but it will resemble a very different form or thrill once they "reimagine" it. 

 

I was there that day - it was bad. 

 

Nonetheless, more practically, it just isn't a good ride. Cedar Point's coasters are usually imaginative - this was just like getting shot out of a cannon that was going to return you to the barrel on 1/3 of attempts. 

I think the main changes will be A. Moving the queue line from being under and in between the tracks, if the same accident would've happened on Kingda Ka no one would've gotten hurt because the queue line is off to the side and the woman who's head was struck by the flying piece was waiting in line below, not riding the ride; B. LIMs to increase the reliability and not rely on cables/flywheels etc that can breakdown much easier. The launch would feel much longer/slower and may even need to have some of the launch fins extending where the track turns skyward but it would hardly ever fail to get a train over the top or have the major breakdowns of the hydraulic system.

 

Maybe a retheme as well but I don't see why that would be necessary or a good idea. 

8 minutes ago, YABO713 said:

 

 

Nonetheless, more practically, it just isn't a good ride. Cedar Point's coasters are usually imaginative - this was just like getting shot out of a cannon that was going to return you to the barrel on 1/3 of attempts. 

When it was introduced, I would say it was imaginative, it has since been copied by a few others so it is not original much more. Although to your point, I always felt it similar (or at least the next step in the evolution) to the Superman coaster at the old Geauga Lake. 

 

The nice thing about that ride is that it sat in a relatively small/narrow footprint. It would be interesting to find something as eye catching that could take its place. Although, I will say what they did with the old Mean Streak was incredible and Steel Vengeance is a phenomenal ride. 

 

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Cedar Point parent is adding an esports complex

 

Cedar Fair Entertainment Co. plans to add a competitive gaming complex inside its Cedar Point Sports Center, which is a few miles from the company's Cedar Point amusement park in Sandusky, Ohio.

 

Cedar Point Esports is expected to be a 1,000-square-foot space that will house a gaming area capable of broadcasting and producing livestreams and content, the Sandusky-based amusement park and resort operator said on Tuesday.

 

The esports facility will replace a locker area and unused open space in the existing sports center, said Gary Rhodes, a Cedar Fair spokesman, in an email.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cleveland/news/2023/02/07/cedar-fair-to-go-forward-with-esports-complex.html

 

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  • 2 months later...

 

When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?

  • 2 months later...

The plans for Top Thrill Dragster. Official announcement coming on August 1

 

 

 

When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?

1 hour ago, Boomerang_Brian said:

The plans for Top Thrill Dragster. Official announcement coming on August 1

 

 

 

Hoping it's just Tony Clark messing with everyone again. Definitely won't be called Top Thrill 2. And that initial launch is so weak that it will barely get you to 200ft. 

Definitely not Tony, given that it was on Zamperla's site and is now down.

 

While the initial launch is definitely not very strong, going backwards at 101 mph up a 420' tall spike is going to be great.

And now the official announcement:

 

When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?

You would think that they would want to disassociate from the previous iteration after what happened.  Top Thrill 2 sounds pretty lame to be honest.  Still really excited to ride it though! 

Top Thrill 2 reminds me of Roller Coaster Tycoon when you would open a second ride of the same type and forget to rename it.

Like a pants crapping sequel to Wicked Twister.

So are they adding a second tower?

It seems like the line would take forever if they can only run one car at at time and would make it extremely slow to load. 

7 minutes ago, Brutus_buckeye said:

So are they adding a second tower?

It seems like the line would take forever if they can only run one car at at time and would make it extremely slow to load. 

Based on the extended station, it appears there will still be a separate load and unload area, now back to back. If a full train can enter the load area, load quickly (which should be easy with lapbars only) and exit within a 75 second timeframe, which is more than doable, the capacity will be around 1,000 people per hour which is not amazing, but perfectly workable.

 

The fast switch and swing launch setup means a train can begin its run before the one in front is past the end of the initial brake run. I would actually bet the eventual real world capacity ends up higher than Dragster if the ride is reliable.

  • 2 weeks later...

Cedar Point to debut Top Thrill 2 strata coaster next year

 

Cedar Point plans to introduce its Top Thrill 2 roller coaster next year to replace its ill-fated Top Thrill Dragster, which was closed after a serious accident in 2021.

 

On Thursday, Cedar Fair Entertainment Co., Cedar Point's Sandusky, Ohio-based parent, announced Top Thrill 2 along with several capital projects at some of its 11 amusement parks in the United States and Canada.

 

For instance, King's Island in Cincinnati, Ohio, will get a fifth kids' roller coaster, Snoopy’s Soapbox Racers, as part of its new Camp Snoopy, and Dorney Park in Pennsylvania will get a dive roller coaster called Iron Menace, Cedar Fair said.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cleveland/news/2023/08/10/cedar-point-to-introduce-top-thrill-2-coaster.html

 

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  • 1 month later...

Cedar Point parent to open Sandusky esports facility next month

 

Cedar Fair Entertainment Co. is planning to open its Cedar Point Esports facility in two weeks — the amusement park and resort company's first foray into esports and gaming entertainment.

 

Cedar Fair has built the 1,000-square-foot gaming facility in a locker area and unused open space in their existing Cedar Point Sports Center, which is located a few miles away from Cedar Point Amusement Park in Sandusky.

 

The first phase of the new gaming facility comprises 32 gaming stations and plans to organize leagues, camps and clinics to guide aspiring esports athletes and people looking for new forms of entertainment, Cedar Fair said Tuesday.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cleveland/news/2023/09/26/cedar-point-esports-facility-to-open-in-october.html

 

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  • 2 weeks later...

Cedar Point amusement park parent opens first esports center in Sandusky

 

Cedar Fair Entertainment Co. showed off its newly opened Cedar Point Esports center in Sandusky, Ohio, to the media on Tuesday.

 

The 1,000-square-foot esports center is the first foray into esports and gaming entertainment for Cedar Fair, the parent of Cedar Point Amusement Park.

 

"The opening of Cedar Point Esports marks a significant step for us as we diversify our offerings and engage with a broader audience," said Richard Zimmerman, Cedar Fair (NYSE: FUN) president and CEO, in a statement.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cleveland/news/2023/10/10/cedar-point-opens-esports-center-sandusky.html

 

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  • 3 weeks later...

U.S. theme-park operators Cedar Fair, Six Flags to merge

 

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U.S. amusement park operators Cedar Fair and Six Flags Entertainment on Thursday agreed to merge to scale their business amid an economic slowdown that has weighed on leisure spending.

 

 

The new company will trade under the Six Flags ticker on the New York Stock Exchange.

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/02/us-theme-park-operators-cedar-fair-six-flags-to-merge-in-8-billion-deal.html

 

 

from cleveland.com some bad news

 

Cedar Fair, Six Flags agree to merge; new company will be headquartered in North Carolina

 

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2023/11/cedar-fair-six-flags-agree-to-merge-new-company-will-be-headquartered-in-north-carolina.html

Edited by freefourur

It was inevitable to move from Sandusky to the Faux-Queen City.  I just didn't think they'd take Six Flags with them!

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It will be interesting to see what effect this has on Cedar Point as the flagship park of the company, as Magic Mountain is for Six Flags. If you go by raw numbers, Knotts Berry Farm or Canada's Wonderland could become the real flagship parks for the new chain. If you go by the new Charlotte headquarters maybe they pour money into Carowinds to make it more of a national draw instead of just a regional one. Either way I can't help but think this will be ultimately be bad news for Cedar Point and to a lesser extent Kings Island. 

15 minutes ago, ucgrady said:

It will be interesting to see what effect this has on Cedar Point as the flagship park of the company, as Magic Mountain is for Six Flags. If you go by raw numbers, Knotts Berry Farm or Canada's Wonderland could become the real flagship parks for the new chain. If you go by the new Charlotte headquarters maybe they pour money into Carowinds to make it more of a national draw instead of just a regional one. Either way I can't help but think this will be ultimately be bad news for Cedar Point and to a lesser extent Kings Island. 

Financially, investments in southern parks make more sense since there are more operating days at southern parks. 

Eh, not lately.  Cedar Fair cut back Winter hours at Carowinds, Kings Dominion, and California's Great America. I do agree that Cedar Flags will be investing more money to Carowinds but the flagships will still be Cedar Point, SF Magic Mountain, SF Great Adventure, and Canada's Wonderland.  I don't think Kings Island will be affected by this but the smaller CF and SF chains will *cough Six Flags America *cough*.

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God l hate these mergers. We seem to lose a headquarters every time. 

 

Cliffs buying US Steel is our best hope now.

21 hours ago, cadmen said:

God l hate these mergers. We seem to lose a headquarters every time. 

A good chunk of it is because Hopkins is not the greatest of airports.  It needs more direct flights and up to date facilities.

  • 1 month later...

In some cool news, Top Thrill 2 has already been spotted doing partial test runs after recently completing the new spike. Looks like it's mainly back and forth between the spike and part of the top hat, but exciting to see already before the spring. 

 

https://screamscape.com/html/cedar_point.htm#Dragster

I really wish they made that new spike 460 feet to top Kingda Ka, even if it doesn't go all the way up like Superman at SFMM.

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3 minutes ago, ColDayMan said:

I really wish they made that new spike 460 feet to top Kingda Ka, even if it doesn't go all the way up like Superman at SFMM.

All to not matter a year later when Falcon's Flight obliterates every record out there for the foreseeable future...

Yeah, I think a lot of us were hoping it would bring a new major record back to the park, but CP likes to take their titles for complete circuit coasters and ignore records claimed by other parks, like Superman at Six Flags Magic Mountain. Then again, that usually only matters to us coaster fans and not the general public. Still shocked Falcon's Flight is actually becoming a reality.

13 minutes ago, rollercoasterjoe said:

Yeah, I think a lot of us were hoping it would bring a new major record back to the park, but CP likes to take their titles for complete circuit coasters and ignore records claimed by other parks, like Superman at Six Flags Magic Mountain. Then again, that usually only matters to us coaster fans and not the general public. Still shocked Falcon's Flight is actually becoming a reality.

 

here’s a fresh falcon’s flight update from a couple days ago —

 

 

12 minutes ago, rollercoasterjoe said:

Yeah, I think a lot of us were hoping it would bring a new major record back to the park, but CP likes to take their titles for complete circuit coasters and ignore records claimed by other parks, like Superman at Six Flags Magic Mountain. Then again, that usually only matters to us coaster fans and not the general public. Still shocked Falcon's Flight is actually becoming a reality.

The thought of a ride that's twice the length of Millennium Force, goes 35 mph faster than Dragster, and has a second hill so tall that there would be 100 feet of air space if you put Dragster's tower beneath that hill is wild. It is breaking records that haven't been attempted since 2000 (length ), 2005 (height), and 2011 (speed).

Absolutely can't wait to see the on-ride videos that come out of it once completed, truly blows everything out of the water. Top Thrill 2 is going to have it's own unique thrills though, and looking straight down on that spike is going to be absolutely wild. So far, Zamperla seems to be doing a great job.

59 minutes ago, jmicha said:

All to not matter a year later when Falcon's Flight obliterates every record out there for the foreseeable future...

 

True.  I guess I should've said "in the western hemisphere."

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I mean for the average roller coaster fan that might as well be built on Mars, it's not like almost any Americans will visit anyway. Last time I checked Saudi Arabia didn't even allow tourism and only granted business or religious visas. I could claim roller coasters as my religion but I'm not sure they would think that was funny. 

Edited by ucgrady

1 hour ago, rollercoasterjoe said:

Absolutely can't wait to see the on-ride videos that come out of it once completed, truly blows everything out of the water. Top Thrill 2 is going to have it's own unique thrills though, and looking straight down on that spike is going to be absolutely wild. So far, Zamperla seems to be doing a great job.

As I live in NYC and frequently visit Luna Park at Coney Island, which is managed by Zamperla, I'm really rooting for them. I'd love to see their more modern ride concepts find success, both elsewhere and in Brooklyn. So far everything seen on Top Thrill 2 seems pretty impressive. At no point has there been any indication from the outside that they're in over their head which speaks volumes to how much more they can take on.


Should the ride experience be equally positive, I could see this being the beginning of Zamperla really taking off. If Cedar Fair (or, I guess, the future merged Six Flags, yuck) are happy with Top Thrill 2 I could see them taking another chance on them doing something else large at other parks.

I'd just be happy if they'd B&M train their Arrow hypers like Steel Dragon 2000.

 

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  • 2 weeks later...

Cedar Point ordered by Ohio Supreme Court to turn over police records

 

The Ohio Supreme Court has ruled that Cedar Point's police department must turn over records requested by three Ohio television stations.

 

In a unanimous decision, the court ruled that under the state's Public Records Act, the department must turn over the documents regarding an injury that occurred near the Top Thrill Dragster roller coaster in 2021, plus any records related to sexual assault reports in the park's employee dorms between April 1, 2017 and March 22, 2022.

 

https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/investigations/ohio-supreme-court-orders-cedar-point-police-records-3news-tegna-sister-stations/95-f6a4359d-96f1-40e2-85f4-2417f1e7c936

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whoa --wouldn't this be cool at cedar point?  🙀

 

 

 

 

The world's HIGHEST ferris wheel: 600ft attraction being built in South Korea will dwarf the London Eye and carry 1,400 people at once

 

Seoul Twin Eye will sit upon a 131ft-tall cultural complex in the capital 

 

By JAMES CALLERY

PUBLISHED: 08:08 EST, 29 January 2024

 

 

more:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13018945/The-worlds-HIGHEST-ferris-wheel-600ft-attraction-built-South-Korea-dwarf-London-Eye-carry-1-400-people-once.html

 

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Reminds me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Joqdr9jqI6g

 

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