I should have mentioned the strollers that I saw today.  Kids in strollers can't respond like the cyclists!

 

Findlay Market is very small and narrow. Strollers really slow down traffic, but today there was a couple pushing a double-wide stroller!  That really shut down traffic, not to mention the fact that the kids were about 3 and could have been walking!

 

Don't get me started on the old lady in the wheelchair!  No respect. People practically pushing her aside instead of helping.

Sorry. I thought you were referring to the streetside areas of the market. My bad.

Those oversize strollers are referred to as "SUV strollers".

Those oversize strollers are referred to as "SUV strollers".

 

I love those big strollers, as long as I dont have to use it!  Mr. Fussy Pants has a bugaboo, that thing is fantastic.  If I was a baby I know I'd want to be pimping in a fly stroller, not that double wide crap I had when I was baby!

Strollers can get much more compact once the kid is out of diapers. Until then, you really  need a place to stash the diaper bag and related acoutrements, and it's nice if it's big enough that there's a cupholder for the kid because otherwise you're constantly having to stop and give them their water, then take it back when they're done, or pick it up 50 times because they keep throwing it or dropping it.

Are you better than them because you drive a car? Cyclists have as much right to the street as you do.

 

Who said anything about the street?  I said Findlay Market.  That would be like you riding your bike through the Westside Market.

 

I agree on that issue. People who try to ride their bikes through busy, congested pedestrian areas are morons. They should at least dismount and walk their bikes, or better, lock them at the entrance and walk. Same applies at many festivals.

 

It depends.  Actually cyclists who ride SLOW...important word SLOOOOWWWW on sidewalks in crowded areas are less obtrusive than a person walking a bike.  A person walking a bike is more likely to strike/scratch a pedestrian because they have no idea of their horizontal clearances. 

 

A person on a bike on average requires 22 inches of horizontal clearance

A person off a bike requires on average 38" inches of horizontal clearance.

Full evacuation office Fire Drills.  NYC is getting on my nerves with this crap!

Every time I go to a new page on UO it asks me to download the Tapatalk app! Urrrgh! Dangit, I don't want it.

I finally reloaded it on my phone. I wasn't pleased with the normal format of the board on here. Is there a mobile version of the site? I've never looked and it usually just loads automatically if it exists.

Sense of Decorum? What's that?

 

Last Thursday my Aunt Margaret passed away at age 98. She was Dad's younger sister. Funerals and weddings are the only time our family gets together because we're so widely dispersed and the youngest generations have little common ground in experience and interest with us geezers. I manage to avoid most of the weddings with their chicken dances and cake-smearing and other whippersnapper nonsense; "Too far to travel" serves as a good catch-all excuse for skipping those events.

 

Anyway, to get back on topic, for the visitation and funeral I wore my dark-charcoal suit, clean and with sharply-pressed trousers, a starched white shirt, tasteful lightly-patterned dark red tie, and polished cordovan dress shoes with plain black socks. At the funeral home, other than the funeral director, my cousin and I were the only ones wearing suits. Most other folks at least dressed respectably, with men wearing nice slacks and buttoned, collared shirts. There were a few polo shirts among the thirty-something men. I'll cut folks a break because of the hot weather, but a polo shirt is pushing it for a funeral. How about a pressed, solid-color short-sleeved shirt with a collar and buttons?

 

My cousin's twenty-something granddaughter wore some sort of whorehouse-purple, shiny frilly top that exposed too much of her excessively abundant flesh -- all of her shoulders, about the top one-third of her back, and the final approach to what looked like a perilously-deep cleavage, along with numerous ugly inked tattoos. The locations and direction of some partially-exposed tattoos led me to assume that they extend to places that we respectable folks would prefer not to contemplate. She finished off the outfit with black stretch -- I guess they're called Capri pants, 'way too small for her copious posterior and hefty legs.

 

My brother wore a white-and-blue plaid western-style shirt with pearl snaps, accessorized with a bolo tie with a turquoise-and-silver slide; tan twill elastic-waistband pants two or three inches too large in the waist owing to his latest effort to shed his sagging potbelly and held up by wide red suspenders, with a wide tooled-leather belt and big jeweled silver buckle for a finishing touch; fancy cowboy boots; and a cowboy hat. Dammit, he's old enough he should know the difference between dressing for a funeral and dressing for a barn dance!

 

Every year I become more convinced that the world is going to hell in a handbasket, and folks just don't know how to present themselves any more. I blame it all on cable TV, automobiles, and suburbia. :x

I completely agree. The clothing I have seen at funerals is absolutely appalling. I unfortunately attend more of those than I do weddings, but those aren't much better, though at least people seem to attempt to dress up at weddings, and I see less and less of this at funerals. It's so very disrespectful I can't believe it.

 

Hard to say which is worse though - what people wear to funerals or what they wear to the grocery store, or worse, to fly. It seems sweat pants and yoga pants or capris are all any women under 35 wear anymore, and flip flops. And immediately off come the flops when seated on a plane. I mean, GROSS. I see grown women in what are clearly PAJAMAS out in the grocery now. I think it's appalling.

I manage to avoid most of the weddings with their chicken dances and cake-smearing and other whippersnapper nonsense; "

 

LOL. Rob you crack me up.

Thank you Robert and RR. 

Hard to say which is worse though - what people wear to funerals or what they wear to the grocery store, or worse, to fly. It seems sweat pants and yoga pants or capris are all any women under 35 wear anymore, and flip flops. And immediately off come the flops when seated on a plane. I mean, GROSS. I see grown women in what are clearly PAJAMAS out in the grocery now. I think it's appalling.

 

I feel like I've been kicked in the balls by life every time I see women dressed like this.

I just recently started getting my newspaper off the driveway in sweats or lounge pants, and that is the ONLY place you'll ever find me out in public wearing them.  I don't even wear them to the Starbucks drive-thru on Saturday mornings.

 

I work in the medical field, and am continually appalled at the way people dress for a medical appointment.  I will give plenty of leeway to people who are ill, and don't feel well enough to dress nicely.  But every day we have people who show up wearing obviously stained/dirty clothing +/- holes in it, bedroom slippers, and reeking of tobacco smoke or other questionable odors.  How hard is it to have a clean t-shirt and jeans at least?  And to bathe at least somewhat recently before an appointment?  I think we might start buying Lysol spray and Clorox wipes by the pallet...

While we're on clothing pet peeves, I hate the sweat pants and UGGS look that many young females sport. Those stupid boots cannot go out of style soon enough - uggh!

 

I also hate thong sandals, especially with jeans. RNR mentioned the capris and yoga pants. I actually find that look pretty hot on females who have the right body type to pull it off.

I posted this same quote about two years ago:

 

“Everyone is so quick to blame the absentee father, but let me tell you something: it’s casual wear that’s ruining this society.”

 

Nina Van Horn - 'Just Shoot Me'

I finally reloaded it on my phone. I wasn't pleased with the normal format of the board on here. Is there a mobile version of the site? I've never looked and it usually just loads automatically if it exists.

 

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?wap2

I just started a new job and I'm pretty disgusted with how most of my coworkers dress. I work in an office of about 70 attorneys and there may be two or three individuals who actually take the time to look decent. Most of the men wear suits that are too big. This is one of my biggest fashion pet peeves...if you buy a suit, take the time to have it altered/tailored.

My problem is the shoes. All these men running around in suits and cheap plastic shoes with rubber soles.

^Yup...I hate that. Another thing...most men don't know there are more than one kind of dress shoe. You don't have to wear black shoes with every suit. I may be the only person in my office that wears brown or oxblood shoes with some of my suits.

Most men are unfortunately like my husband. He has ONE pair of dress shoes, and wears them every day. When they wear out, he gets another. He thinks having a bunch of shoes is stupid. He has tennis shoes for working out (which he rarely does), chuck taylors for parties, a pair of hiking boots for when we go hiking, the black dress shoes and that's about it. No sandals, no anything else. He wears the same black dress pants every single day. He has 3 pairs and rotates them and then washes them each week. He doesn't care to think about his wardrobe.

Every time I go to a new page on UO it asks me to download the Tapatalk app! Urrrgh! Dangit, I don't want it.

 

Should be fixed.

^Yup...I hate that. Another thing...most men don't know there are more than one kind of dress shoe. You don't have to wear black shoes with every suit. I may be the only person in my office that wears brown or oxblood shoes with some of my suits.

 

Keep in mind that black dress shoe is a no brainer. You can look ridiculous if you put on a brown shoe and match it up with the wrong suit, but you'll always be ok with black shoes.

 

I wear a suit every day, and I only wear black shoes. I have a couple pairs of brown ones that my wife made me buy, but I don't like them. One pair is some italian brand, and I can't fit my fat foot into it. Stupid narrow Italian feet ;-)

 

re: rubber soles. When I buy shoes, the first thing I do is take them to the shoe guy (are they still called cobblers?mmmmm cobbler....) to put those rubber soles onto the leather. I hate...HATE...sliding around on a new pair of leather soles.

 

And I  bought a pair of the aforementioned plastic shoes from Payless once....hands down the most comfortable pair of shoes I've ever worn. Like walking on a cloud.

Most men are unfortunately like my husband. He has ONE pair of dress shoes, and wears them every day. When they wear out, he gets another. He thinks having a bunch of shoes is stupid. He has tennis shoes for working out (which he rarely does), chuck taylors for parties, a pair of hiking boots for when we go hiking, the black dress shoes and that's about it. No sandals, no anything else. He wears the same black dress pants every single day. He has 3 pairs and rotates them and then washes them each week. He doesn't care to think about his wardrobe.

 

I'm the same way - although I have one pair of black and one pair of brown for work shoes and I do have sandals.  When I find good shoes, I am not above buying them again once they wear out.  I am on my 2nd pair of Johnston and Murphy brown shoes.  So comfortable and I have to admit, worth the $120.   

Wearing sweat pants feels like wearing a cloud too, but it doesn't mean you should go out in them. Just sayin'. Sometimes dressing proper isn't about feeling the same way you do while lounging on your couch in the living room.

Wearing sweat pants feels like wearing a cloud too, but it doesn't mean you should go out in them. Just sayin'. Sometimes dressing proper isn't about feeling the same way you do while lounging on your couch in the living room.

 

Did I mention that you can recycle plastic shoes?

 

Jokes aside, I don't have the connection with clothes that some do. I wear suits because my job requires it (and frankly, it's easy), but outside of work, as long as I'm covering my delicates, I don't put a lot of thought into what I'm wearing. I don't buy new clothes until my old stuff is worn out. Since I mostly wear shorts, jeans and t-shirts, I don't need to mix it up much. If I wear a hole in jeans, I'd rather patch it up (because it's broken in) than buy a new pair.

 

Maybe that's a pet peeve of mine....the fashion oppressors always trying to make me conform!

I know you don't, and neither does my DH, and neither do the majority of people schlumping around Cleveland in their sweats and flip flops and Ugg boots, and it shows. It just looks terrible and I wish people had more pride about their appearance. There is a difference between insisting that you have a $3000 Italian, tailored suit and just looking PRESENTABLE when you step out in public. Nobody cares what they look like and most people consequently look like big slobs, and I just think it's very unfortunate.

I hear you. You and my wife would get along gloriously. I'll tell you what I tell her. Meh.

Mine tells me if I want him to look presentable, I have to pick out his clothes. So I do for awhile and then I get mad because you know, can't you pick our your own clothes, and pick something that fits, matches, isn't stained and doesn't look like homeless garb? You're a grown man! It's frustrating. Many women are no better. I see what walks around downtown and it's appalling.

Meh, I say, as forcefully as one can say it, while still remaining disinterested and noncommittal.

 

I have a bright orange t-shirt that's oversized, has bleach stains, and is holey. My wife hates it. I keep it to wear when I want to p!ss her off.

LOL. My DH's shirt like that is an orange and white tye-dyed Browns t-shirt that he cut not just the sleeves off of, but all the way down the sides on both sides too so there's big scoops out of each side. HORRID.

OMG.  I want even get started.  It will ruin my morning.  The Majority of you know how I feel about appropriate dress and grooming.

 

I can't go there.  I wont. 

 

Thats all!

 

 

My grandmother passed away a couple weeks ago and the Obit actually said that the funeral was "dress casual". I was pleased that most people ignored that advice and still dressed up.

 

As far as shoes, I think I have 5 pairs. Hiking boots, Snow boots, Black Dress, Cordovan Dress, and running shoes. I'm tempted to get rid of the hiking boots since I haven't hiked in a couple years.

 

In college I once went 2 years on a single pair of shoes. They were really comfy loafers that looked nice enough I could get away with them when I dressed up, but didn't look stupid with jeans and a T-shirt. I miss them.

My grandmother passed away a couple weeks ago and the Obit actually said that the funeral was "dress casual". I was pleased that most people ignored that advice and still dressed up.

 

As far as shoes, I think I have 5 pairs. Hiking boots, Snow boots, Black Dress, Cordovan Dress, and running shoes. I'm tempted to get rid of the hiking boots since I haven't hiked in a couple years.

 

In college I once went 2 years on a single pair of shoes. They were really comfy loafers that looked nice enough I could get away with them when I dressed up, but didn't look stupid with jeans and a T-shirt. I miss them.

 

You own only five pairs of shoes?  five? 

 

Two years with only one pair of shoes?

 

I think I'm going to faint.

My grandmother passed away a couple weeks ago and the Obit actually said that the funeral was "dress casual". I was pleased that most people ignored that advice and still dressed up.

 

As far as shoes, I think I have 5 pairs. Hiking boots, Snow boots, Black Dress, Cordovan Dress, and running shoes. I'm tempted to get rid of the hiking boots since I haven't hiked in a couple years.

 

In college I once went 2 years on a single pair of shoes. They were really comfy loafers that looked nice enough I could get away with them when I dressed up, but didn't look stupid with jeans and a T-shirt. I miss them.

 

You own only five pairs of shoes?  five? 

 

Two years with only one pair of shoes?

 

I think I'm going to faint.

 

I actually agree with MTS, which feels a bit weird but I digress.  I think I have 10 different pairs of shoes at least, and need to replace probably at least 3.  I have 3 pairs of black dress shoes, 1 brown dress shoes, 2 casual sets (brown and black), 3 sandles (brown, black, and athletic), running shoes, hiking shoes, and a pair of Sambas because you never know when an indoor soccer game will break out. 

 

Regarding appropriate level of dress, I always assume that Business Casual will be appropriate for everything.  Which is pretty much true.  Never really over or under dressed. 

 

RnR et al.  Sadly I have to scold my wife (not the other way around) about going to the grocery store etc. in appropriate clothing.  She sometimes hates putting on more than gym shorts and a T-shirt.  But I will admit she does have a better fashion sense, just doesn't want to apply it all the time.

Imelda Marcos is alive and well on urbanohio! lol

I have been to the gym in gym shorts if the only time I can go is right after the GYM. But I do not wear sweat pants or gym shorts unless I am working out. I just think it looks so SLOPPY and nasty and I don't get why people just don't care what they look like anymore.

I actually agree with MTS, which feels a bit weird but I digress.

 

I think I have 10 different pairs of shoes at least, and need to replace probably at least 3.  I have 3 pairs of black dress shoes, 1 brown dress shoes, 2 casual sets (brown and black), 3 sandles (brown, black, and athletic), running shoes, hiking shoes, and a pair of Sambas because you never know when an indoor soccer game will break out. 

 

Net 7 pairs of shoes?  You and Keith are as bad a Punch! Let us all join hands and say a prayer!

 

I think I have 10 different pairs of shoes at least, and need to replace probably at least 3.  I have 3 pairs of black dress shoes, 1 brown dress shoes, 2 casual sets (brown and black), 3 sandles (brown, black, and athletic), running shoes, hiking shoes, and a pair of Sambas because you never know when an indoor soccer game will break out. 

 

Regarding appropriate level of dress, I always assume that Business Casual will be appropriate for everything.  Which is pretty much true.  Never really over or under dressed. 

 

RnR et al.  Sadly I have to scold my wife (not the other way around) about going to the grocery store etc. in appropriate clothing.  She sometimes hates putting on more than gym shorts and a T-shirt.  But I will admit she does have a better fashion sense, just doesn't want to apply it all the time.

Never assume that.  Especially if you're meeting someone like me.  It's always better to know your audience / event. 

 

I honestly dont see anything wrong with a sweat suit, based on what you're doing and where you're going.  I've gone power shopping in sweats and a matching hoodie.

 

I can't stand going to an airport and seeing people in PJs.  I just look down nose so hard at them.  They should be seated in the cargo hold instead of coach!

I have been to the gym in gym shorts if the only time I can go is right after the GYM. But I do not wear sweat pants or gym shorts unless I am working out. I just think it looks so SLOPPY and nasty and I don't get why people just don't care what they look like anymore.

 

I wear sweats and I assure you I do not look sloppy or nasty.

Just because they cost several hundred dollars doesn't mean they don't look sloppy.  Seriously, can your sweat pants look compare with what any self-respecting man would go outside in any black and white movie?

I haven't possessed a pair of sweatpants since I was in middleschool after Goodwill or Purple Heart came and picked them up.  Any activity I'd be engaged in that would make sweatpants somewhat practical and not uncomfortable/gross a loose fitting pant or jeans would be superior.  Any physically rigorous activity conducted at above 40 degrees calls for shorts.

Just because they cost several hundred dollars doesn't mean they don't look sloppy.  Seriously, can your sweat pants look compare with what any self-respecting man would go outside in any black and white movie?

 

Yep!  Please note, the price of the item is secondary to the quality and "timelessness" of the item.  As there is a time and a place along with the change in society.  Today were a more relaxed society in certain sectors.  I for one know what is and is not appropriate. 

 

If I'm going to the park with Mr. Fussy Pants, and I put on a sweatsuit, I'm appropriate.  If I'm power shopping up and down Madison Ave., I put on a sweatsuit because I'll be changing in and out of clothes, I'm appropriate. If I'm going to the White House and I wear flip-flops, I'm not appropriate!  Men wearing hats indoors at any time, to me, you are an uncivilized moron. 

 

Comparing me wearing a sweatsuit to a black and white movie doesn't make sense.  If you give me an era/decade, then we can discuss.  Yet we would have to break that down into clothing options then vs. today.  Casual, ready to wear, work attire, swim wear, etc.

I haven't possessed a pair of sweatpants since I was in middleschool after Goodwill came and picked them up.  Any activity I'd be engaged in that would make sweatpants somewhat practical and not uncomfortable/gross a loose fitting pant or jeans would be superior.

 

Yeah but what kind (brand and make) of sweat pants were they?

You cannot show me a sweatsuit that I think is appropriate to be trying on clothes up and down Madison avenue. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. Shall I email the style editor at Esquire to settle the argument?

You cannot show me a sweatsuit that I think is appropriate to be trying on clothes up and down Madison avenue. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. Shall I email the style editor at Esquire to settle the argument?

 

Trust me dear, I've seen a lot worse.  I'm sure Andre, Joe and Simon will agree with me.

 

As my mother always says, "Money doesn't equate to class or proper etiquette!"

 

If I put on a sweat suit, best believe it's fierce!

They were probably whatever brand Kmart was pushing 15-20yrs ago in their kids department.  Maybe if my older sisters weren't draining the family accounts on everything that was hot in the 80s and 90s I'd have had a nice designer sweatsuit (probably not).

File me under, I know better but just don't but the effort in to look nicer....

File me under, I know better but just don't but the effort in to look nicer....

 

OMG.  I want even get started.  It will ruin my morning.  The Majority of you know how I feel about appropriate dress and grooming.

 

I can't go there.  I wont. 

 

Thats all!

... but I knew you would. You just can't help yourself ...

 

You own only five pairs of shoes?  five? 

 

Two years with only one pair of shoes?

 

I think I'm going to faint.

and ...

 

Net 7 pairs of shoes?  You and Keith are as bad a Punch! Let us all join hands and say a prayer!

and ...

 

Never assume that.  Especially if you're meeting someone like me.  It's always better to know your audience / event. 

 

I honestly dont see anything wrong with a sweat suit, based on what you're doing and where you're going.  I've gone power shopping in sweats and a matching hoodie.

 

I can't stand going to an airport and seeing people in PJs.  I just look down nose so hard at them.  They should be seated in the cargo hold instead of coach!

and ...

 

 

I wear sweats and I assure you I do not look sloppy or nasty.

and ...

 

Yep!  Please note, the price of the item is secondary to the quality and "timelessness" of the item.  As there is a time and a place along with the change in society.  Today were a more relaxed society in certain sectors.  I for one know what is and is not appropriate. 

 

If I'm going to the park with Mr. Fussy Pants, and I put on a sweatsuit, I'm appropriate.  If I'm power shopping up and down Madison Ave., I put on a sweatsuit because I'll be changing in and out of clothes, I'm appropriate. If I'm going to the White House and I wear flip-flops, I'm not appropriate!  Men wearing hats indoors at any time, to me, you are an uncivilized moron. 

 

Comparing me wearing a sweatsuit to a black and white movie doesn't make sense.  If you give me an era/decade, then we can discuss.  Yet we would have to break that down into clothing options then vs. today.  Casual, ready to wear, work attire, swim wear, etc.

and ...

 

Yeah but what kind (brand and make) of sweat pants were they?

and ...

 

Trust me dear, I've seen a lot worse.  I'm sure Andre, Joe and Simon will agree with me.

 

As my mother always says, "Money doesn't equate to class or proper etiquette!"

 

If I put on a sweat suit, best believe it's fierce!

and ...

 

 

... and I'm sure we've not seen the last of "... won't go there ..."