August 27, 200915 yr ^getting breaking news headlines out. It's done nothing to improve news, only worsen it, because now newrooms waste time twitting and facebooking when they should be gathering valuable information. Tell that to the people who were tweeting their hearts out in Iran during the street riots. News agencies utilized those tweets to bring camera crews and document the situations as they arose.
August 27, 200915 yr I just hate texting in general. I especially can't stand people who use their cell phone in the middle of dinner. It's rude as hell. There also seem to be points in the night now where kids all quit talking and start texting. It's so f$&king impersonal, it's ruining drinking. This new generation sucks balls. We were bad with video games, the internet and all, but now kids are basically an extension of their cell phones. AND they have twitter, one of the dumbest concepts know to man. I have a no blackberry/cellphone/PDA rule in the office. I don't see or hear a blackberry. The last time someones blackberry went off during one of my staff meetings, it was not cute! I made Miranda Priestly look like fairy princess in the manner I let this one staffer have it. Its inexcusable to pick up that damn thing in the middle of a meeting. if its an emergency, have your assistant or another team member interupt. I remember I was at a dinner with a client and my presence was to "seal the deal" with my counterpart at this company. In the middle of the dinner he got a text then a call on his blackberry, and got up from the table and went into the hall. He didn't say excuse me or anything, just put up his finger. He was gone 5 minutes, so i got up to ask if there was a problem. His response, "no". Based on the conversation he was "kii-kiing" with some friends. After another 5 minutes passed, I told my team to get up - we're leaving and we walked right out. The people at Fulton thought it was the service or the apps and were apologising profusely. The moron didn't even know we left until I got in the car and he approached I just rolled up the window. He emailed, called and sent flowers the next day. By then Id already spoken to his boss and had him removed. People like that don't have common sense or social graces.
August 27, 200915 yr I just hate texting in general. I especially can't stand people who use their cell phone in the middle of dinner. It's rude as hell. There also seem to be points in the night now where kids all quit talking and start texting. It's so f$&king impersonal, it's ruining drinking. This new generation sucks balls. We were bad, but now kids are basically an extension of their cell phones. AND they have twitter, one of the dumbest concepts know to man. Like anything, Twitter can be used and abused. The concept is genius, and it's proved to quite the invaluable tool for getting breaking news out. I can agree. When I was last in Cali there was an accident and someone tweeted about the delay and to exit before the pileup. That is an example of how tweeting can be a plus. When you tweeting you're on the toilet or you just woke up....who gives a shit??
August 27, 200915 yr MTS, do I just hate texting in general. I especially can't stand people who use their cell phone in the middle of dinner. It's rude as hell. There also seem to be points in the night now where kids all quit talking and start texting. It's so f$&king impersonal, it's ruining drinking. This new generation sucks balls. We were bad with video games, the internet and all, but now kids are basically an extension of their cell phones. AND they have twitter, one of the dumbest concepts know to man. I have a no blackberry/cellphone/PDA rule in the office. I don't see or hear a blackberry. The last time someones blackberry went off during one of my staff meetings, it was not cute! I made Miranda Priestly look like fairy princess in the manner I let this one staffer have it. Its inexcusable to pick up that damn thing in the middle of a meeting. if its an emergency, have your assistant or another team member interupt. I remember I was at a dinner with a client and my presence was to "seal the deal" with my counterpart at this company. In the middle of the dinner he got a text then a call on his blackberry, and got up from the table and went into the hall. He didn't say excuse me or anything, just put up his finger. He was gone 5 minutes, so i got up to ask if there was a problem. His response, "no". Based on the conversation he was "kii-kiing" with some friends. After another 5 minutes passed, I told my team to get up - we're leaving and we walked right out. The people at Fulton thought it was the service or the apps and were apologising profusely. The moron didn't even know we left until I got in the car and he approached I just rolled up the window. He emailed, called and sent flowers the next day. By then Id already spoken to his boss and had him removed. People like that don't have common sense or social graces. Ouch. That's a joke, right?
August 27, 200915 yr Ouch. That's a joke, right? No dear, I don't play that. The only person entitled to ignore or interupt people is me. I don't do that, and I will not tolerate anyone else disrupting the office or staff meetings. It's rude, unproductive and intrusive. It's not like this rule is something new, everyone knows and signed of on the memo I sent out 3/4 years ago about electronic devices in the office. New folks are briefed. I'm very good to my staff, but bring in and/or hearing a PDA/Cellphone/pager, etc in the office or during a meetings, really grinds my gears and you will have hell to pay if you break a rule. Not to mention I'll sick my assistant on you. And those two are not to be played with. As my one assistant says, "A lot of shit goes down here on Columbus circle, attention must be paid, bitches!"
August 27, 200915 yr Wow. And what makes you think it's okay to treat people like sh!t? I mean, that's what I'm assuming when you say you make Miranda look sweet. It's nice to see someone so gracious when someone else slips up. :roll:
August 27, 200915 yr Wow. And what makes you think it's okay to treat people like sh!t? I mean, that's what I'm assuming when you say you make Miranda look sweet. It's nice to see someone so gracious when someone else slips up. ::) I very seldom have to do something like that. My staff is excellent, I'm very, very, very proud of them and I'm very good to them. I go to bat for them and try to make their working experience the best. Trust me, in the 5 years I've been here, only four people out of 70 worldwide have left one of my departments. If I was a bad manager, they would have left in droves. However, I run a tight ship and texting, cell phones, PDAs in the office is a "no-no" and I will not tolerate it.
August 27, 200915 yr I wouldn't tolerate it either, especially in a meeting. But there's a difference between having zero tolerance for something and treating someone like garbage.
August 27, 200915 yr I wouldn't tolerate it either, especially in a meeting. But there's a difference between having zero tolerance for something and treating someone like garbage. I didn't treat the person like garbage, I calmly explained why I don't like cellphones in the office and "jogged" their memory as to why they are prohibited in the office. I made an example of that employee. Said, employee probably felt like garbage after the fact. That is not my issue. I dont like BB/PDA's, my boss would ask me why I didn't return his text message and I would tell him because I dont use that thing. If you want something call me. It took him about 6 months to realize I wasn't ever going to return his text messages.
August 27, 200915 yr ^getting breaking news headlines out. It's done nothing to improve news, only worsen it, because now newrooms waste time twitting and facebooking when they should be gathering valuable information. Tell that to the people who were tweeting their hearts out in Iran during the street riots. News agencies utilized those tweets to bring camera crews and document the situations as they arose. And twitter deserves credit for this? :lol: They just as easily could have used facebook (and they did). Youtube gets credit for Iran, not Twitter. Facebook isn't public. You either have to be friends with someone or be a part of their network to see their updates (assuming they haven't set their profile to private). Twitter is 100% public (again, unless you set your profile to private). Plus, with "trending topics" you can look at real time tweets from on a certain topic. Facebook can't do that. And I don't know what you're referring to about Youtube and Iran.
August 27, 200915 yr ^Facebook is public, as public as you want it to be, just like Twitter. And I don't know what you're referring to about Youtube and Iran. This is a joke, right? Most the video aired was youtube video. The media particularly latched onto Neda's death. Twitter did nothing to get information out that Youtube didn't, and unlike Twitter, Youtube had real content. Neda's death video galvanized a whole generation. Oh, I know that. But that really didn't have anything to do with people tweeting updates on street violence. Twitter's much quicker as far as that's concerned. But yeah, the majority of the video that came out of Iran landed on Youtube. And Facebook is nothing like Twitter. Show me how I can put in a keyword and look at all the updates from around the world involving that word and see them live as they happen. Can't do it.
August 27, 200915 yr I wouldn't tolerate it either, especially in a meeting. But there's a difference between having zero tolerance for something and treating someone like garbage. I didn't treat the person like garbage, I calmly explained why I don't like cellphones in the office and "jogged" their memory as to why they are prohibited in the office. I made an example of that employee. Said, employee probably felt like garbage after the fact. That is not my issue. I dont like BB/PDA's, my boss would ask me why I didn't return his text message and I would tell him because I dont use that thing. If you want something call me. It took him about 6 months to realize I wasn't ever going to return his text messages. Hmm. That's a LOT different than your original post: "I made Miranda Priestly look like fairy princess in the manner I let this one staffer have it." Doesn't exactly invoke calmness does it? Sounds a lot more like you threw a hissy fit for someone who forgot to turn off their phone.
August 27, 200915 yr I wouldn't tolerate it either, especially in a meeting. But there's a difference between having zero tolerance for something and treating someone like garbage. I didn't treat the person like garbage, I calmly explained why I don't like cellphones in the office and "jogged" their memory as to why they are prohibited in the office. I made an example of that employee. Said, employee probably felt like garbage after the fact. That is not my issue. I dont like BB/PDA's, my boss would ask me why I didn't return his text message and I would tell him because I dont use that thing. If you want something call me. It took him about 6 months to realize I wasn't ever going to return his text messages. Hmm. That's a LOT different than your original post: "I made Miranda Priestly look like fairy princess in the manner I let this one staffer have it." Doesn't exactly invoke calmness does it? Sounds a lot more like you threw a hissy fit for someone who forgot to turn off their phone. No...see how Miranda explains "stuff" to Andrea... Hulu - The Devil Wears Prada: Cerulean Sweater That's how I calmly explained why I don't like cell phones. No hissy fits...no yelling. We're all adults here. I give my staff respect..and I expect them to respect each other.
August 27, 200915 yr Oh. So you were are a calculating, cut throat, vindictive, cold, snarky b!tch, who can unhinge his jaws when devouring pray but only when provoked. I can get behind that. :) I fixed that for you. I've been in corporate america a long time, I have long and very sharp fangs. My bite is definitely worse than my bark. Other than that, I'm a nice sweet mamas boy.
August 27, 200915 yr Yeah, I'm not too into the whole prospering-from-the-broken-backs-of-others deal, but I can repsect a calculating individual with a sprinkle of well placed snark.
August 27, 200915 yr Yeah, I'm not too into the whole prospering-from-the-broken-backs-of-others deal, but I can repsect a calculating individual with a sprinkle of well placed snark.
August 27, 200915 yr What are your biggest pet peeves? Bosses, especially obnoxious, overbearing, condescending, full-of-themselves, vindictive, arrogant, self-serving, malicious, loud, pompous, selfish, domineering bosses.
August 27, 200915 yr What are your biggest pet peeves? Bosses, especially obnoxious, overbearing, condescending, full-of-themselves, vindictive, arrogant, self-serving, malicious, loud, pompous, selfish, domineering bosses. I don't like them either! Luckily i've been blessed with some good bosses. Except for that whore in London.
August 28, 200915 yr Man Moonlight had a rough day! Plus the fact that he doesn't know who Flip Wilson is! Sad!!
August 28, 200915 yr People that activate their turn signal after they've slowed down to make the turn. And then folks not utilizing their turn signals generally.
August 28, 200915 yr What are your biggest pet peeves? Bosses, especially obnoxious, overbearing, condescending, full-of-themselves, vindictive, arrogant, self-serving, malicious, loud, pompous, selfish, domineering bosses. I don't like them either! Luckily i've been blessed with some good bosses. Except for that whore in London. Tell us what you really think!!! Don't hold back!
August 28, 200915 yr People that activate their turn signal after they've slowed down to make the turn. And then folks not utilizing their turn signals generally. I think people in PA aren't taught how to use their signals correctly, or even at all. I'm serious. I rarely see people using their turn signals correctly.
August 28, 200915 yr Man Moonlight had a rough day! Plus the fact that he doesn't know who Flip Wilson is! Sad!! I'll gladly take some thinking I don't know who Flip Wilson is if it means I get to make fun of MTS. :lol: What are your biggest pet peeves? Bosses, especially obnoxious, overbearing, condescending, full-of-themselves, vindictive, arrogant, self-serving, malicious, loud, pompous, selfish, domineering bosses. So...MTS?
August 28, 200915 yr What are your biggest pet peeves? Bosses, especially obnoxious, overbearing, condescending, full-of-themselves, vindictive, arrogant, self-serving, malicious, loud, pompous, selfish, domineering bosses. I don't like them either! Luckily i've been blessed with some good bosses. Except for that whore in London. Tell us what you really think!!! Don't hold back! She was a slut. You don't sleep with employees below you and bait them with the promise of "career advancement". She was above me at the time, but she slept with one of the guys that reported to me. She tried that with me, unfortunately we don't play on the same team, (strike one for her) and I'm a calculating, manipulative, opportunist, so she set herself up for failure from jump. So I laid my trap and waited. I'm a very patient bitch. :evil: While I waited for her to fall into my trap, I studied her family, professional contacts and noted miscellaneous habits. I knew she would slip and let her guard down. Since I rebuked her, She then would try to critique my work with a fine tooth comb, however, her boss (our European division Head) gave me a spot bonus for an environmental/image campaign that the prime minister and BH palace praised. I decide to develop a greater relationship with him. (strike two for her). So then he would come directly to me on projects, ask me to speak at staff meetings or ask how we would do something in North America. This cause problems between her and him. Then it was announced we'd have a staff function and families would be invited. Opportunity knocked. :wink: and MTS answered. All during the outing, I picked her husbands brain. I then understood why she cheated, the man had the personality of a toothpick, the looks of, well lets just say he was he wasn't cute and he was about 15/16 years older than her. She was a straight up cougar. Skip to a few month later. It's review time. We have our meeting. I go into her office sit down and she comes to the side of the desk I'm sitting on and she has all my papers, etc. and says, "you came here on a VP fast track program, but quite frankly I don't think you VP material. What might have been acceptable in Cleveland is not ok in London. Good Ideas, but sloppy execution". She said this in a super condescending Kate Blanchett voice. She let me have it, but with no proof of poor performance. I asked, "do you have any proof of poor performance or are you blatantly going to ignore the positive comments of your boss, the PR team at large and other division heads about my work?" her response, "what they thinks doesn't matter" I say, "really now? Are we done here?" I knew she would say, 'Yes, would you like to say add anything?" I say "sure". I go to my office, get the emails between her and my employee (Yes...I check emails) and the pictures I'd aquired of them going into Lanesborough and Park Lane hotels arm and arm and showing affection, along with copies of hotel folios. I go back into her office, toss the folder on her desk, then I lean over her desk and got real close to her face and say, "I'm sure this is proof that I know how to execute!" (strike three, you're out) A few minutes later she was at my office and timed it perfectly that I would be departing for HR. She gagged. So I told my HR "source" what happened and unknown to me, another male employee complained about her advances. So with my information and this guy....she hung herself and I won!! I value my job. I'm not a bitch to tangle with. I play for keeps! So remember kids..... Oh... did I mention I sent copies of the pictures to her house. :wink: There is nothing like a friendly reminder, of bad decision, that arrives at dinner time. Ok...no more....this is all stuff that's going to be in my book.
August 28, 200915 yr MTS I am curious on the cellphone policy? I understand your no PDA/Cell usage in a meeting policy (although I love the fact that my boss(es) have blackberries when they are meetings/offsite all day otherwise I would be waiting for an answer) but what is the ground rules for your cell phone in the office? Out of sight and ringer turned off or do have a total prohibition?
August 28, 200915 yr What are your biggest pet peeves? Bosses, especially obnoxious, overbearing, condescending, full-of-themselves, vindictive, arrogant, self-serving, malicious, loud, pompous, selfish, domineering bosses. I don't like them either! Luckily i've been blessed with some good bosses. Except for that whore in London. Tell us what you really think!!! Don't hold back! She was a slut. You don't sleep with employees below you and bait them with the promise of "career advancement". She was above me at the time, but she slept with one of the guys that reported to me. She tried that with me, unfortunately we don't play on the same team, (strike one for her) and I'm a calculating, manipulative, opportunist, so she set herself up for failure from jump. So I laid my trap and waited. I'm a very patient bitch. :evil: While I waited for her to fall into my trap, I studied her family, professional contacts and noted miscellaneous habits. I knew she would slip and let her guard down. Since I rebuked her, She then would try to critique my work with a fine tooth comb, however, her boss (our European division Head) gave me a spot bonus for an environmental/image campaign that the prime minister and BH palace praised. I decide to develop a greater relationship with him. (strike two for her). So then he would come directly to me on projects, ask me to speak at staff meetings or ask how we would do something in North America. This cause problems between her and him. Then it was announced we'd have a staff function and families would be invited. Opportunity knocked. :wink: and MTS answered. All during the outing, I picked her husbands brain. I then understood why she cheated, the man had the personality of a toothpick, the looks of, well lets just say he was he wasn't cute and he was about 15/16 years older than her. She was a straight up cougar. Skip to a few month later. It's review time. We have our meeting. I go into her office sit down and she comes to the side of the desk I'm sitting on and she has all my papers, etc. and says, "you came here on a VP fast track program, but quite frankly I don't think you VP material. What might have been acceptable in Cleveland is not ok in London. Good Ideas, but sloppy execution". She said this in a super condescending Kate Blanchett voice. She let me have it, but with no proof of poor performance. I asked, "do you have any proof of poor performance or are you blatantly going to ignore the positive comments of your boss, the PR team at large and other division heads about my work?" her response, "what they thinks doesn't matter" I say, "really now? Are we done here?" I knew she would say, 'Yes, would you like to say add anything?" I say "sure". I go to my office, get the emails between her and my employee (Yes...I check emails) and the pictures I'd aquired of them going into Lanesborough and Park Lane hotels arm and arm and showing affection, along with copies of hotel folios. I go back into her office, toss the folder on her desk, then I lean over her desk and got real close to her face and say, "I'm sure this is proof that I know how to execute!" (strike three, you're out) A few minutes later she was at my office and timed it perfectly that I would be departing for HR. She gagged. So I told my HR "source" what happened and unknown to me, another male employee complained about her advances. So with my information and this guy....she hung herself and I won!! I value my job. I'm not a bitch to tangle with. I play for keeps! So remember kids..... Oh... did I mention I sent copies of the pictures to her house. :wink: There is nothing like a friendly reminder, of bad decision, that arrives at dinner time. Ok...no more....this is all stuff that's going to be in my book. HOLY CRAP. :-o
August 28, 200915 yr MTS I am curious on the cellphone policy? I understand your no PDA/Cell usage in a meeting policy (although I love the fact that my boss(es) have blackberries when they are meetings/offsite all day otherwise I would be waiting for an answer) but what is the ground rules for your cell phone in the office? Out of sight and ringer turned off or do have a total prohibition? I dont want to see it or hear it! PERIOD! We have built in text messaging in all of our systems. IMing is fine. Texting a No-No. :whip:
August 28, 200915 yr I would greatly prefer working for someone like MTS rather than some weasily little jerk who doesn't tell you the way it is, but stabs you in the back.
August 28, 200915 yr I would greatly prefer working for someone like MTS rather than some weasily little jerk who doesn't tell you the way it is, but stabs you in the back. The upside to working for weasily jerks is that they're SO easy to manipulate and eventually completely control.
August 28, 200915 yr [HOLY CRAP. :-o I'm really sweet and innocent, like Rob. I would greatly prefer working for someone like MTS rather than some weasily little jerk who doesn't tell you the way it is, but stabs you in the back. That is how your gain the respect of your staff. Keep it real. I would greatly prefer working for someone like MTS rather than some weasily little jerk who doesn't tell you the way it is, but stabs you in the back. The upside to working for weasily jerks is that they're SO easy to manipulate and eventually completely control. Not always. I just had to fire one. When I came to my current position, he was one of the people I couldn't cast away. So for the past four and a half years hes been a thorn in my side. He slipped up....and I dismissed his ass. You can't play with those types of people unless you're prepared to go one step further than them and get low down and dirty.
August 28, 200915 yr MTS I am curious on the cellphone policy? I understand your no PDA/Cell usage in a meeting policy (although I love the fact that my boss(es) have blackberries when they are meetings/offsite all day otherwise I would be waiting for an answer) but what is the ground rules for your cell phone in the office? Out of sight and ringer turned off or do have a total prohibition? I dont want to see it or hear it! PERIOD! We have built in text messaging in all of our systems. IMing is fine. Texting a No-No. :whip: That is an understandable policy. I don't like and for the most part won't talk on my phone while at my desk unless it is my wife and I am in the middle of something where I can talk. Now back to the story. They were sending pictures of each other on work e-mail? Dumb. Dumb. Dumb, Edit: just reread the story, the pics were from somewhere else. But talk about executing a plan.
August 28, 200915 yr [HOLY CRAP. :-o I'm really sweet and innocent, like Rob. I would greatly prefer working for someone like MTS rather than some weasily little jerk who doesn't tell you the way it is, but stabs you in the back. That is how your gain the respect of your staff. Keep it real. I would greatly prefer working for someone like MTS rather than some weasily little jerk who doesn't tell you the way it is, but stabs you in the back. The upside to working for weasily jerks is that they're SO easy to manipulate and eventually completely control. Not always. I just had to fire one. When I came to my current position, he was one of the people I couldn't cast away. So for the past four and a half years hes been a thorn in my side. He slipped up....and I dismissed his ass. So he was working for you, then. I was referring to the opposite.
August 28, 200915 yr So he was working for you, then. I was referring to the opposite. Well in that case, you might need to bring them down a notch. But make sure you have the balls to follow thru and your work is ON POINT!
August 28, 200915 yr So he was working for you, then. I was referring to the opposite. Well in that case, you might need to bring them down a notch. But make sure you have the balls to follow thru and your work is ON POINT! Oh, my work is flawless. And it's for that reason alone I'm able to make my own rules. The weasily jerk boss thing comes from a previous job. I loved working under that guy. They're so stupid and it doesn't take much to make them your puppet.
August 28, 200915 yr So he was working for you, then. I was referring to the opposite. Well in that case, you might need to bring them down a notch. But make sure you have the balls to follow thru and your work is ON POINT! Oh, my work is flawless. And it's for that reason alone I'm able to make my own rules. The weasily jerk boss thing comes from a previous job. I loved working under that guy. They're so stupid and it doesn't take much to make them your puppet. Then why no just eliminate them?
August 28, 200915 yr So he was working for you, then. I was referring to the opposite. Well in that case, you might need to bring them down a notch. But make sure you have the balls to follow thru and your work is ON POINT! Oh, my work is flawless. And it's for that reason alone I'm able to make my own rules. The weasily jerk boss thing comes from a previous job. I loved working under that guy. They're so stupid and it doesn't take much to make them your puppet. Then why no just eliminate them? Are you missing the part where I was working UNDER him? Or are you saying that I should've gotten him fired by his own boss? How would that have served me? The fun was in manipulating the guy. Why would I want that to go away?
August 28, 200915 yr So he was working for you, then. I was referring to the opposite. Well in that case, you might need to bring them down a notch. But make sure you have the balls to follow thru and your work is ON POINT! Oh, my work is flawless. And it's for that reason alone I'm able to make my own rules. The weasily jerk boss thing comes from a previous job. I loved working under that guy. They're so stupid and it doesn't take much to make them your puppet. Then why no just eliminate them? Are you missing the part where I was working UNDER him? Or are you saying that I should've gotten him fired by his own boss? How would that have served me? The fun was in manipulating the guy. Why would I want that to go away? Yes. Get him out the way so you can advance your career. Obviously I was a child of the all about me 80s. It was eat or be eaten. That and I'd watched one to many Dynasty and Dallas episodes. LOL
August 28, 200915 yr Yeah okay, Gordon Gecko. :roll: No, but I wasn't looking to advance my career at that place. It was a temporary situation.
August 28, 200915 yr We're not talking about the pimply teenage manager of Pretzel Jetzel at the mall, we're talking real jobs!
August 28, 200915 yr We're not talking about the pimply teenage manager of Pretzel Jetzel at the mall, we're talking real jobs! I know, right. These kids might not be cut out for corporate america.
August 28, 200915 yr We're not talking about the pimply teenage manager of Pretzel Jetzel at the mall, we're talking real jobs! That's awesome, because I am too! :wink:
August 28, 200915 yr We're not talking about the pimply teenage manager of Pretzel Jetzel at the mall, we're talking real jobs! I know, right. These kids might not be cut out for corporate america. You talk about corporate America like it's the end all be all. Imagine an industry where wealth is shared AND you don't have to act like a raging dick. Then imagine me working in it and you'll start to get the picture.
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