Horses enabled cities, and were a part of downtown Chicago from before Chicago had a name. Sorry you don't like tourists/people not doing srs bsns. They make your city better.

I'm with NorthAndre.  I can't stand walking anywhere near the southern edge of Central Park because of that horse piss stench.  Not to mention the utter cheesiness of the whole carriage thing.  I get a little nervous when I hear people mention carriage rides as a something we really need to add to Downtown Cleveland.

I'm not a big fan of the smell, but a few horses has nothing on hundreds of cars and buses, in terms of overall unpleasantness.

Just don't feed it beef-a-reeno

Horses enabled cities, and were a part of downtown Chicago from before Chicago had a name. Sorry you don't like tourists/people not doing srs bsns. They make your city better.

 

Of course tourists make the city better. If it werent for them there wouldn't be a Michigan Avenue. But 99.9% aren't using the carriage services, so it's a non-essential nuissance to visitors, residents, and business owners. This is why alderman for decades have layered restrictions and ordinances against them.

 

 

Chicago should reactivate and expand the freight-tunnel system, bring back the streetcars, and make all other surface traffic horse-drawn except for emergency vehicles. With streetcars, elevated trains, and subways for passenger transport, and drayage companies and the tunnel system for freight transport, traffic pollution would be biodegradable, traffic would be calmer, and streets would be quieter. People used to think nothing of the smells from animal-powered transportation, and they could get used to them again. Think of all the new jobs for sanitation workers and vendors of hay and feed, and the abundance of organic fertilizer that could help reduce dependence on petroleum-based chemical fertilizers.

Indeed, cities weren't loud places until all the diesel engines, air brakes, giant A/C units, helicopters, thumping 'systems and loud sirens that could be heard over the racket in tightly sealed cars came into play. That's why when you get off the main drags cities are still fairly quiet.

Chicago should reactivate and expand the freight-tunnel system, bring back the streetcars, and make all other surface traffic horse-drawn except for emergency vehicles. With streetcars, elevated trains, and subways for passenger transport, and drayage companies and the tunnel system for freight transport, traffic pollution would be biodegradable, traffic would be calmer, and streets would be quieter. People used to think nothing of the smells from animal-powered transportation, and they could get used to them again. Think of all the new jobs for sanitation workers and vendors of hay and feed, and the abundance of organic fertilizer that could help reduce dependence on petroleum-based chemical fertilizers.

 

The old modes were inefficient and the city of Chicago described historically in books, pertaining to horse drawn transportation, was a horrible place.

 

I agree modern transportation has its problems, but innovation will make them less of an issue and improve health and safety.

 

Back to my original point, if it weren't for the collective interests of area business and residents over the carriages as a nuissance, there would be no regulation.  I'm happy the tourists like them, but they don't have do deal with a single business daily creating a foul stench. 

I'm with NorthAndre.  I can't stand walking anywhere near the southern edge of Central Park because of that horse piss stench.  Not to mention the utter cheesiness of the whole carriage thing.  I get a little nervous when I hear people mention carriage rides as a something we really need to add to Downtown Cleveland.

 

Cleveland had carriage rides for a long time.  It's just been recently that there is no carriage ride services.  I wouldn't mind seeing them come back.  It adds to the uniqueness of place, imo.  You can't get a carriage ride at Crocker Park.

Thematically I think Dunham Tavern sounds like the right place for Cleveland's carriage rides.  The museum can replace those awful silhouettes with the real thing.

Cleveland had carriage rides for a long time.  It's just been recently that there is no carriage ride services.  I wouldn't mind seeing them come back.  It adds to the uniqueness of place, imo.  You can't get a carriage ride at Crocker Park.

You can't now, but they could add carriage rides just as easily as somewhere in Cleveland, if they felt it added something positive to Crocker Park. In fact you could argue they'd have an easier time adding them since they're a lot closer to farm land where they could keep the horses. I don't think it adds uniqueness, it adds quaintness, which is not the same thing.

I'm tired of people parking in my building's loading zone when I'm coming back from the burbs with groceries.  I don't own a car so when I use zipcar I'm entitled to at least 10 minutes of parking per month in front of my building...At least!  They park in the temp spot and then go into one of the stores to shop.  The two spaces out front have been purchased by our building and translate through rent, so I'm paying for it.  It's for tenants, guests visiting tenants, delivery and repair vehicles. 

 

I'm also sick of people double parking on our street which is very busy.  Sometimes they'll double park-double-park.  So basically no one gets through!!  Today that happened.  By now I've had the towing company speed dial to clear the people that block my space, but also create backups for blocks.  One of those cars was pulled away in a record 7 minutes.  How does someone that idiotic think they can double park on a busy street and get away with it for more than just 5 minutes!!

People double park on Euclid Ave now continually, which means you have to go into the bus lane, which could be dangerous if a driver isn't careful.  I really want to get a paintball gun to punish these jerks.

People double park on Euclid Ave now continually, which means you have to go into the bus lane, which could be dangerous if a driver isn't careful.  I really want to get a paintball gun to punish these jerks.

 

Shoot, picking up a car from the impound lot is more punishing and costly.  Here in Chicago's its an absolutely horrible and unfriendly place to go.  There's this non-descript hard to find staircase on Randolph and you must go down to the city's sub level basement to pick up your car.  It's an awful place, and the people who work there don't see much light, so they aren't the friendliest.

 

 

I know your car was towed, but really you can't be walking down here.  So here's another ticket for you!

 

 

#1 rule of parking in the city.  Follow the rules.  They are very clear and easy to understand.  If the sign has a picture of a towtruck on it, that means that your car will be taken by one of those. 

A few weeks ago, I overhear a woman complaining about the new FBI headquarters just across the highway from the abandoned Kenwood Towne Place. She couldn't believe "they" would build a new building instead of finishing the halfway finished one.

 

When I hear people complain about things like this, I question their understanding of how the world works. Who is "they" in her complaint? Does she blame the FBI for choosing to locate where they did? Or does she not understand that two different companies might be developing the two buildings and, believe it or not, might not be coordinating to minimize the amount of vacant office space? Or does she blame "the city" (despite the fact that both developments are outside the city limits)?

 

I also read a FB comment by someone about how "Building X is historic and it's a shame the city hasn't renovated it" ... as if the city just owns all of the neglected buildings and is choosing not to develop them.

 

How do people think these things work?

Like Sim City.

Pasty Europeans!  God, I'm so glad to be back in the good old US of A!

Look out! MTS is back after a month away! :-o

Look out! MTS is back after a month away! :-o

 

Admit it...You missed me!  You all missed me! HA!

I know a pet peeve of the Admins/Mods - when someone digs up an old thread and posts just so they can have the last word, or stir up sh!t or make inane comments. Just sayin' :-)

I know a pet peeve of the Admins/Mods - when someone digs up an old thread and posts just so they can have the last word, or stir up sh!t or make inane comments. Just sayin' :)

 

 

 

I know you missed me the most!

You'll want to check your private messages - some things have changed during your sabbatical.

I went to bed early and so I've already had 3-4hrs of sleep and of course woke up and decided that I'd do some work. Got some caffeine in my system to make sure I did't just fall asleep at the desk partway into it.

 

... 15mins later.

 

Persistent Server Error :(

 

 

pet peeve #666:

When know it all web designers take established sites & completely obliterate the established navigation/links.

The city of Cincinnati and Spring Grove Cemetery are numbers 1 & 2 on my pooplist right now.

Pet Peeve these days is:

 

DC Comics' New 52 relaunch. While there are some strong titles - Animal Man in particular - DC had utterly butchered characters' histories and the chronologies make no sense. Not to mention the bizarre treatment of virtually every major female character, be it oversexualization or needless and confusing retconning.

 

What a slap to the face to comics' fans.

Sweet...

 

My wife has been working downtown at CSU for 2 weeks and got her window busted out and car worked over. Thank god she had cleaned it out last weekend for a roadtrip. She usually has a ton of stuff in there.

 

That's her luck. I worked downtown Cle for 4 years and then another 6 in DT Akron  and never had my car touched. Although I did have a laptop stolen out of my car in the driveway....

Sweet...

 

My wife has been working downtown at CSU for 2 weeks and got her window busted out and car worked over. Thank god she had cleaned it out last weekend for a roadtrip. She usually has a ton of stuff in there.

 

That's her luck. I worked downtown Cle for 4 years and then another 6 in DT Akron  and never had my car touched. Although I did have a laptop stolen out of my car in the driveway....

 

Look at the bright side.  She wasn't in it or injured.  The window can be replaced.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.. I know.

 

I was just bitching, that why I put it under pet peeves and not Cleveland Crime....

 

Yeah, yeah, yeah.. I know.

 

I was just bitching, that why I put it under pet peeves and not Cleveland Crime....

 

 

So others on the board will be aware, where was your wife parked?

One of the surface lots by the Wolstein Center, not sure which one...

 

I don't like how I have a habit of taking everything literally. It's always accompanied by assuming the worst, assuming bad intentions. Everyone is out to get me. Maybe it stems from having a rough childhood but it's a demon I've always been battling. What irks me even more than dealing with that is when someone points out such a personal vulnerability. "Dave, take it with a grain of salt." The only thing I take with a grain of salt is a shot of Tequila.

Sagging.  Especially when you aren't wearing any underpants.  I hope you get put on the "list", sir.

I've seen morons sagging their pants down to their knees with jersey-mesh shorts on underneath. What the hell is the point of that? You might as well just wear the shorts (dumb@ss...) I never understood that trend. It looks ridiculous. Plus, it has to be a lot harder to run from the police when your pants are like that so it definitely isn't practical for most of the people who do it.

The loose pants is (or was originally) meant to show solidarity with friends or family in prison.

Sagging.  Especially when you aren't wearing any underpants.  I hope you get put on the "list", sir.

 

That is not sexy!

 

I've seen morons sagging their pants down to their knees with jersey-mesh shorts on underneath. What the hell is the point of that? You might as well just wear the shorts (dumb@ss...) I never understood that trend. It looks ridiculous. Plus, it has to be a lot harder to run from the police when your pants are like that so it definitely isn't practical for most of the people who do it.

 

Agreed, but what is even worse, is that some people roll up and cuff their jeans.  If you wore your pants in the manner in which they should be worn, you wouldn't need to roll them up, you asshat!  Now, having said that about saggers, skinny jeans is just as offensive to me!

Well, you know, now-days, you can't really find baggy jeans anymore. I wear some fairly snug-fitting jeans in my collection (it's mostly all you can find in clothing stores these days) but some people still refer to them as skinny jeans. To me, they're just well-fitted. I like 'em. Some people don't realize, skinny jeans are just the ones that are literally so tight that they are bad for your health as they can cut off your damn circulation. I never really liked baggy jeans so I'm glad that jeans have gotten a little skinnier. Almost like a rock-star fit (that's literally what it says on a pair of my jeans) although I've seen videos of like Led Zeppelin in the '70s and that sh!t probably does classify as "skinny". Guys with chicken legs tend to wear the most "skinny jeans" and it just makes their skinniness stand out more.

Why is it so hard for people to understand recycling? One cardboard pizza box goes in the recycle bin... GOOD JOB. The (identical) second cardboard pizza box goes in the trash can. WHY WHY WHY?!? Plastic soda bottles... NOT RECYCLABLE! Tampons... RECYCLABLE??? Soup cans... NOT RECYCLABLE! Dryer lint... RECYCLABLE???

 

My tenant doesn't get it. My coworkers don't get it. I keep trying to tell myself that Ohio isn't that backwards but it seems I'm gravely mistaken.

I keep trying to tell myself that Ohio isn't that backwards but it seems I'm gravely mistaken.

 

And yet Ohio isn't much different from the other 49 states.

Oregon has had widespread recycling since 1995... pretty much everyone back home gets it.

Why is it so hard for people to understand recycling? One cardboard pizza box goes in the recycle bin... GOOD JOB. The (identical) second cardboard pizza box goes in the trash can. WHY WHY WHY?!? Plastic soda bottles... NOT RECYCLABLE! Tampons... RECYCLABLE??? Soup cans... NOT RECYCLABLE! Dryer lint... RECYCLABLE???

 

My tenant doesn't get it. My coworkers don't get it. I keep trying to tell myself that Ohio isn't that backwards but it seems I'm gravely mistaken.

 

I live in CH and I believe the city has said pizza boxes are not recyclable.

^ It all depends on the condition of the pizza boxes. If the pizza boxes are coated in grease then you either need to cut out the greasy party or throw away the box. If there is not excessive grease it is recyclable. This is all according to Rumpke's recycling program in Cincinnati.

 

You can follow this link, click on your region, and then it will tell you what is recyclable.

 

In Cincinnati these are all recyclable:

 

Newspaper

Plastic bottles (lids are accepted if left on the bottle)

Steel food cans

Aluminum cans

Glass bottles and jars

Residential mixed paper, including: envelopes with and without windows, cereal boxes, construction paper, school papers, office paper, brown paper grocery bags.

Clean pizza boxes, free of food or grease

Cardboard boxes (broken down into 3 feet by 3 feet sections)

Yeah, the box cheese must gum up the machine.

Well, you know, now-days, you can't really find baggy jeans anymore.

 

You just aren't shopping at the right places. Everybody knows a place where you can still get baggy jeans.

Goodwill?

Most people who haven't lived in Cincinnati are probably going to miss out on the "everybody knows" reference.

I knew what you were referring to :)

Everybody knows, for sure!

 

I lol'd.

I have received multiple robo calls from the same company telling me this is my last chance & that they are taking me off their call list if I do not respond. in just 1 day I have received multiple calls from them.

Have they no shame?

If I hear one more person in the office mispronounce Chipotle I'm going to start smacking people.

^ I think you misspelled Chipolte.

Ugh, working at a place where everybody worships Chipotle would be worse. You think Apple has an annoying user base...