If I were the barista, I would have thrown hot milk in your face with that order. :)

I would think you would substitute "snot" for hot milk. ;)

 

LOL. What I'd probably do is write DICK on the cup and yell out "DICK! YOUR ORDER IS READY! DRINK FOR DICK!" when the drink was done.

 

you speak of "dick" in fun, but it can take a dark turn. I worked in this one night club where everytime a male customer was  rude a certain bartender whipped "it" out and aquainted the glass with ..."it". The customer never saw a thing. Yes people,it happens. Unless you have GREAT skills with the working man or women AND are a respectful tiipper, don't send stuff back or act like a jerk.

I've recommended Juniper's breakfast to others as well, I've heard it's good from people who have had it.  I do get up there for lunch when the weather is good, it's QUITE a stretch of the legs. 

 

I just can't understand why we don't have a few small shops like this downtown that have decent bakery at least.

 

If only

 

 

Had managed run their business properly.  I miss those sugar cookies.

 

I loved Hough Bakeries! http://ech.cwru.edu/ech-cgi/article.pl?id=HBI

 

Who didn't?  My brother and I would behave all day just so that we could ride to shaker square or severance for a sugar cookie.  You could buy 7 for $1. 

 

7 for $1!?!?! Good grief, when was that, the late 40's? And I thought I was at least a decade older than you!

I've recommended Juniper's breakfast to others as well, I've heard it's good from people who have had it.  I do get up there for lunch when the weather is good, it's QUITE a stretch of the legs. 

 

I just can't understand why we don't have a few small shops like this downtown that have decent bakery at least.

 

If only

 

 

Had managed run their business properly.  I miss those sugar cookies.

 

I loved Hough Bakeries! http://ech.cwru.edu/ech-cgi/article.pl?id=HBI

 

Who didn't?  My brother and I would behave all day just so that we could ride to shaker square or severance for a sugar cookie.  You could buy 7 for $1. 

 

7 for $1!?!?! Good grief, when was that, the late 40's? And I thought I was at least a decade older than you!

 

The 70s/80's.  The were 15¢ a piece or 7 for $1.  Then it went to 5 for $1

I have a word (or three) for people who place orders like that, and I don't even work at Starbucks. But since I like you, you're exempt.

 

Awe, thanks MayDay.  You're not so bad yourself.

I have one.  Co-workers who listen to the same damn song over and over and over and over all day long.  :x

^Especially when that song is "Grandma got run over by a reindeer". I don't care if she is my boss, If I hear that song one more freakin' time...

I don't know why, but this drives me crazy: People who you see on a regular basis and give you a Christmas card in person. Really, you shouldn't have! (unless there’s a cash gift inside) 

^ I agree completely but I think its worse when its someone at work that you hardly talk to that gives you a card. Is it rude to not give them a card back even though I could give a rats ass if I ever see them again and I don't really care if they have a merry christmas or not?

^ I agree completely but I think its worse when its someone at work that you hardly talk to that gives you a card. Is it rude to not give them a card back even though I could give a rats ass if I ever see them again and I don't really care if they have a merry christmas or not?

next time that happens ask them "What, I'm not worth the price of a stamp?"

Ive got a new one!

 

I drive a small sports car (Porsche 944) and it really pisses me off when I'm surrounded by SUVs, and they start honking at me to say turn left at a light or right at a stop sign when I can't tell if it's safe to go even though they can -- because I'm surrounded by SUVs. Listen, not everyone is sitting unnecessarily 10 feet off the ground just because they can't think for themselves enough to know that SUVs are only for forest rangers and race car teams pulling trailers. Advertising-addled zombies.

Ive got a new one!

 

I drive a small sports car (Porsche 944) and it really pisses me off when I'm surrounded by SUVs, and they start honking at me to say turn left at a light or right at a stop sign when I can't tell if it's safe to go even though they can -- because I'm surrounded by SUVs. Listen, not everyone is sitting unnecessarily 10 feet off the ground just because they can't think for themselves enough to know that SUVs are only for forest rangers and race car teams pulling trailers. Advertising-addled zombies.

 

I know the feeling.  I have a nissan.  I just drive slower.  Which makes the people behind more upset.  I'm like get over yourselves.

Same with me, I also have a nissan ('01 Altima) and I hate being around all the Escalades and Hummers driven by caffeine-laden soccer moms.

^ midsize car? boo hoo.  try doing this on a 227 lb scooter. Seriously, you get out in the exurbs and it seems like everone is jacked up in tall cars, caffiene are angst- ridden, and texting. I think they are in a hurry to make money, buy junky meaningless things, and living vicariously though their over extended children.

 

City and country driving is fun as heck, but if you see me mushed it will probably be in stongsville.

People who ask me a question about something on the menu, and then say "oh I don't like that" with a just-smellt-dogpoo look on their face. Thank you for your input.

 

Double points for those who declare ""I don't like anything on your menu"

 

In my perfect world I'd personally escort these people back to their cars with some advice: it's a free country eat wherever you would like. (considering we have a menu posted at our front door, online, and on a banner flying behind an airplane during Indians games... No clue we're not a chophouse eh?)

there is  menu for a place flying behind an airplane? how have I missed this- how many items could actually be on the menu?

Shamwow

Just in time for the New Year - people who lack etiquette at the gym:

 

1. Using the free weights? Make sure you step away from the rack (or scoot your bench far enough away) so other people can get to/from the weights.

2. That's a piece of gym equipment, not a shelf for your crap.

3. I wasn't aware of any VIP privileges, so guess what - your membership entitles you to the use of ONE piece of equipment or set of weights, especially at peak busy times.

4. If someone asks how many more sets you have, that means you should quit chatting with your buddy so you're not holding up the line.

5. Those paper towels and cleanser are provided for a reason - please wipe down the equipment when you're done.

6. See someone lifting something, and want to ask them a question? WAIT until they're done so they don't get distracted and injure themselves.

7. Put the free weights back on the rack - that especially goes for you meatheads (as if I'm going to hoist an 80 lb. dumbbell back on the rack).

8. We all get ripe from time to time - don't be afraid of deodorant (and laundry detergent for your gym clothes).

Just in time for the New Year - people who lack etiquette at the gym:

 

1. Using the free weights? Make sure you step away from the rack (or scoot your bench far enough away) so other people can get to/from the weights.

2. That's a piece of gym equipment, not a shelf for your crap.

3. I wasn't aware of any VIP privileges, so guess what - your membership entitles you to the use of ONE piece of equipment or set of weights, especially at peak busy times.

4. If someone asks how many more sets you have, that means you should quit chatting with your buddy so you're not holding up the line.

5. Those paper towels and cleanser are provided for a reason - please wipe down the equipment when you're done.

6. See someone lifting something, and want to ask them a question? WAIT until they're done so they don't get distracted and injure themselves.

7. Put the free weights back on the rack - that especially goes for you meatheads (as if I'm going to hoist an 80 lb. dumbbell back on the rack).

8. We all get ripe from time to time - don't be afraid of deodorant (and laundry detergent for your gym clothes).

 

9.  LEAVE YOUR EFFING PHONE AT HOME. Nobody wants to listen to your fat mouth while they're trying to work out.

^That doesn't faze me as much; then again I *always* have my headphones in. But that reminds me:

 

10. Guys, I don't mind some noisy banter - but if I can hear you over my headphones (which are already cranked up), you're gonna hear about it.

I always have mine too, but when someone is really loud and they're right next to you yammering, I'm not going to damage my hearing by turning it up full blast just to drown out the loudmouth.

And that's another reminder:

 

11. It's the gym, not the tryouts for 'American Idol', and you ain't Luther, R. Kelly, or anyone who should be singing at the top of your lungs in ANY public setting, much less a gym!

honey you beat me to 10 & 11.

 

12:  If you want to "kick it" to a girl, do it out side the gym.  It's not a social club and I don't need to hold up my workout routine so you can kick your weak rap!

^Not so much a problem at my gym - the phrase "sausage fest" is rather applicable, but that reminds me of another thing - especially for "my people":

 

13. If you find someone attractive - try saying "hi", instead of glaring/staring at them inexplicably. If you're too shy, just make up a reason to talk to them ("uh, you finished with those weights?") If they're available, they'd probably be interested in you if your staring didn't come across so Dahmer-esque. If they're not available, they'll be reluctant to introduce you to their available friends since they think you're a sociopath trolling the gym for fresh meat (literally).

13. If you find someone attractive - try saying "hi", instead of glaring/staring at them inexplicably. If they're available, they'd probably be interested in you if your staring didn't come across so Dahmer-esque. If they're not available, they'll be reluctant to introduce you to their available friends since they think you're a sociopath trolling the gym for fresh meat (literally).

 

If I were still single, I'd get that printed on a big sign and post it in my gym.  LEERING is not appealing.  If you are taken, stop staring.  If you're shy, STOP STARING. If you're interested, say hello or strike up a friendly conversation.  Staring is not appreciated.

^Not so much a problem at my gym - the phrase "sausage fest" is rather applicable, but that reminds me of another thing - especially for "my people":

 

13. If you find someone attractive - try saying "hi", instead of glaring/staring at them inexplicably. If you're too shy, just make up a reason to talk to them ("uh, you finished with those weights?") If they're available, they'd probably be interested in you if your staring didn't come across so Dahmer-esque. If they're not available, they'll be reluctant to introduce you to their available friends since they think you're a sociopath trolling the gym for fresh meat (literally).

 

Well any gym in NYC can be a "sausage fest".  The last time I was at the gym down stairs the police were "escorting" a few gents out.

^Not so much a problem at my gym - the phrase "sausage fest" is rather applicable, but that reminds me of another thing - especially for "my people":

 

13. If you find someone attractive - try saying "hi", instead of glaring/staring at them inexplicably. If you're too shy, just make up a reason to talk to them ("uh, you finished with those weights?") If they're available, they'd probably be interested in you if your staring didn't come across so Dahmer-esque. If they're not available, they'll be reluctant to introduce you to their available friends since they think you're a sociopath trolling the gym for fresh meat (literally).

 

Wow, not all shy people are cannibals.  Treating them like cannibals doesn't exactly help bring them into the fold.  Having become less shy over the years, I can say that sometimes you are better off not approaching the person because a botched attempt can ratchet up the awkwardness big time, to the point that you have to find a new place to go.  Sometimes the response you get is less than cordial, and sometimes it's astoundingly mean.  These days I'm more likely to try my luck anyway, but until people become (a lot) more respectful of those deemed undesirable I can't fault someone for just looking. 

Not approaching is fine. Staring is rude.

"Not approaching is fine. Staring is rude... and creepy as all h#ll!"

 

Fixed that for ya ;-)

It does creep a lot of women out, they talk about it in the locker room. It just made me angry. But then, most things make me angry. :)

^Not so much a problem at my gym - the phrase "sausage fest" is rather applicable, but that reminds me of another thing - especially for "my people":

 

13. If you find someone attractive - try saying "hi", instead of glaring/staring at them inexplicably. If you're too shy, just make up a reason to talk to them ("uh, you finished with those weights?") If they're available, they'd probably be interested in you if your staring didn't come across so Dahmer-esque. If they're not available, they'll be reluctant to introduce you to their available friends since they think you're a sociopath trolling the gym for fresh meat (literally).

 

Wow, not all shy people are cannibals.  Treating them like cannibals doesn't exactly help bring them into the fold.  Having become less shy over the years, I can say that sometimes you are better off not approaching the person because a botched attempt can ratchet up the awkwardness big time, to the point that you have to find a new place to go.  Sometimes the response you get is less than cordial, and sometimes it's astoundingly mean.  These days I'm more likely to try my luck anyway, but until people become (a lot) more respectful of those deemed undesirable I can't fault someone for just looking. 

 

This is why I never have and never will approach someone and I'm as shy as they come.  Although, feeling that you have to move on to a different location is not "shy" its really something else.

 

Not approaching is fine. Staring is rude.

100% agree

 

"Not approaching is fine. Staring is rude... and creepy as all h#ll!"

 

Fixed that for ya ;-)

HA!

 

 

 

It does creep a lot of women out, they talk about it in the locker room. It just made me angry. But then, most things make me angry. :)

 

Laaaaaawd, I'ma pray for your girl!

I agree with all the guidelines listed for the gym.  When I used to go to Gold's Gym, it really bugged me when the guys would leave 100+ lbs of plates on some of the machines. 

 

I never understood how people could talk on their phones while doing cardio.  I can not have a conversation when doing cardio myself.  Then again, maybe it's my asthma.  ;)

I agree with all the guidelines listed for the gym.  When I used to go to Gold's Gym, it really bugged me when the guys would leave 100+ lbs of plates on some of the machines. 

 

I never understood how people could talk on their phones while doing cardio.  I can not have a conversation when doing cardio myself.  Then again, maybe it's my asthma.  ;)

 

Why is your phone in the gym to begin with?  How can you talk and work out???  And as others have said, there is NO reason I should here your phone conversation over "work me g*ddamit" blaring on my iPod! 

 

Karma is a motherphucker.  I was in the gym and this guy put is blackberry down on the side of the bench.  Every time he finished a set, he would drop the weights - another pet peeve - and the vibration would cause his blackberry to move.  When  he finished his last set, he dropped the weights and they bounced....right on top of blackberry.  He was so pissed.  He was like, "what am I going to do, I can't live without my phone!"  My response, "can you hear me now?" and "caller you say what?"

 

When I see him at the gym, he gives me dirtly looks and I have no clue why.    :angel:

 

:strong:

 

It does creep a lot of women out, they talk about it in the locker room.

 

Is the first glance a problem, or just the prolonged staring?  Exchanging glances is a common way to initiate contact, whether the initiator is ugly or shy or none of those things.  There's nothing innately offensive about it.  But sometimes a guy gets such a hostile "you're creepy" return glance from the girl that actual staring commences not out of attraction but out of spite. 

 

Of course, smiling back at an unwanted initial glance would send the wrong message.  But there's no need to overcompensate by grimacing at the poor guy, or glaring at him like he just pooped in your shoe.  He didn't.  He expressed interest and you should be honored whatever your opinion of him.  I wonder sometimes if girls realize just how nastily they reject people in these little nonverbal exchanges, and how differently they handle staring when the person doing it is more to their liking. 

 

Reminds me of an SNL skit with Tom Brady where he lists off the 3 rules for guys to avoid committing sexual harassment:

 

1) be handsome

2) be attractive

3) don't be unattractive

Why is your phone in the gym to begin with? How can you talk and work out??? And as others have said, there is NO reason I should here your phone conversation over "work me g*ddamit" blaring on my iPod!

 

Karma is a motherphucker. I was in the gym and this guy put is blackberry down on the side of the bench. Every time he finished a set, he would drop the weights - another pet peeve - and the vibration would cause his blackberry to move. When he finished his last set, he dropped the weights and they bounced....right on top of blackberry. He was so pissed. He was like, "what am I going to do, I can't live without my phone!" My response, "can you hear me now?" and "caller you say what?"

 

That is funny!  I always left my phone in a locker in or in the car.  I already have enough to carry around with my water bottle, iPod, towel, inhaler, and keys.  And of course, not all women's workout clothing has pockets. 

It does creep a lot of women out, they talk about it in the locker room.

 

Is the first glance a problem, or just the prolonged staring?  Exchanging glances is a common way to initiate contact, whether the initiator is ugly or shy or none of those things.  There's nothing innately offensive about it.  But sometimes a guy gets such a hostile "you're creepy" return glance from the girl that actual staring commences not out of attraction but out of spite. 

 

Of course, smiling back at an unwanted initial glance would send the wrong message.  But there's no need to overcompensate by grimacing at the poor guy, or glaring at him like he just pooped in your shoe.  He didn't.  He expressed interest and you should be honored whatever your opinion of him.  I wonder sometimes if girls realize just how nastily they reject people in these little nonverbal exchanges, and how differently they handle staring when the person doing it is more to their liking. 

 

Reminds me of an SNL skit with Tom Brady where he lists off the 3 rules for guys to avoid committing sexual harassment:

 

1) be handsome

2) be attractive

3) don't be unattractive

 

I can't answer for everyone, but most of the women I know do NOT go to the gym to meet anyone. They are there to work out, and work hard, and concentrate on what they're there for.  They don't want to be glanced at or stared at or leered at or engaged in conversation or anything else.  I think it's pretty obvious when someone is open to someone talking to them, there are people who do a lot of socializing at the gym and you'll see them talking to lots of people.  One carries oneself differently when one is idly working out but open to chatting.  I have known and seen very, very, very few women who do this.  The ones that typically are like this are the ones who are really buff and who work out a lot in the men's area; the gym is their social area and they spend a lot of time there.  But honestly, for most of the women I've known, the locker room conversation is usually something like, "I should just join a women's gym."  "That guy in the teeny tiny tank top is staring at everyone again."  "Look out for the midget, he's looking down people's shirts" or whatever.  Myself, I'd rather not even be glanced at.  The problem with glancing is that if you don't acknowledge it, try to ignore the person and try not to give a withering, annoyed look, men tend to KEEP GLANCING.  If you smile, they take it as encouragement.  What are you supposed to do?  Honestly, by the time I give a withering glance or an annoyed look, it's after several "glances" in a row.  WE SEE YOU. WE KNOW WHEN WE'RE BEING LOOKED AT.  WE DON'T WANT TO TALK TO YOU AND THAT'S WHY WE PRETEND NOT TO SEE YOU GLANCING AT US.  That's just my take though.

How is the midget able to look down people's shirts?  What an intrepid little fellow...

 

Sorry to give you such a hard time about it.  It's just that women who expect guys to be sexually inert, in situations when that may not be reasonable to expect from a guy, are kind of a pet peeve of mine.  And if you think the staring situation is uncomfortable for you, try being him.  His mom or his friends probably told him to go to the gym because he'd meet girls there.  I'm just trying to explain where the other side might be coming from because they, by and large, aren't creeps and they aren't hurting anyone-- even if it is really annoying.

How is the midget able to look down people's shirts? What an intrepid little fellow...

 

Sorry to give you such a hard time about it. It's just that women who expect guys to be sexually inert, in situations when that may not be reasonable to expect from a guy, are kind of a pet peeve of mine. And if you think the staring situation is uncomfortable for you, try being him. His mom or his friends probably told him to go to the gym because he'd meet girls there.   I'm just trying to explain where the other side might be coming from because they, by and large, aren't creeps and they aren't hurting anyone-- even if it is really annoying.

 

I hear you.  I am friend to a lot of those guys.  Most of my friends are guys.  I never tell them to try to meet women at the gym. Perhaps if your friends are guys and they're giving you that advice, you should ignore it.  IMO, if you'd like to meet a nice, intelligent, fun woman, try the bookstore. Or a coffee shop.  If you'd just like to hook up, go to a bar (which is a perfectly fine place to meet people as well).  Go to a martini bar or a more upscale place if you want to meet some girls, they're generally not at the neighborhood watering hole downing 5 miller lites and watching sports on TV.  Sit at the bar in a restaurant - there are often single women there.  Or to go a talk about something interesting, or an art museum exhibit, or a local band's concert, or join a group that's interested in something you're interested in, and volunteer to work an event for them, you meet people that way.  Sign up for a charity walk and you can meet all kinds of people.  Or meet someone through a friend at work. Or 8 million other things, but I've never suggested the gym is a good place to meet someone.  I do know where you're coming from, honestly.  It's tough out there.  I just wanted you to get the perspective that I have as well.

How is the midget able to look down people's shirts?  What an intrepid little fellow...

 

Sorry to give you such a hard time about it.  It's just that women who expect guys to be sexually inert, in situations when that may not be reasonable to expect from a guy, are kind of a pet peeve of mine.  And if you think the staring situation is uncomfortable for you, try being him.  His mom or his friends probably told him to go to the gym because he'd meet girls there.   I'm just trying to explain where the other side might be coming from because they, by and large, aren't creeps and they aren't hurting anyone-- even if it is really annoying.

 

I hear you.  I am friend to a lot of those guys.  Most of my friends are guys.  I never tell them to try to meet women at the gym. Perhaps if your friends are guys and they're giving you that advice, you should ignore it.  IMO, if you'd like to meet a nice, intelligent, fun woman, try the bookstore. Or a coffee shop.  If you'd just like to hook up, go to a bar (which is a perfectly fine place to meet people as well).  Go to a martini bar or a more upscale place if you want to meet some girls, they're generally not at the neighborhood watering hole downing 5 miller lites and watching sports on TV.  Sit at the bar in a restaurant - there are often single women there.  Or to go a talk about something interesting, or an art museum exhibit, or a local band's concert, or join a group that's interested in something you're interested in, and volunteer to work an event for them, you meet people that way.  Sign up for a charity walk and you can meet all kinds of people.  Or meet someone through a friend at work. Or 8 million other things, but I've never suggested the gym is a good place to meet someone.  I do know where you're coming from, honestly.  It's tough out there.  I just wanted you to get the perspective that I have as well.

 

Don't forget hotel lobby's.  Great places to strike up a general conversation...and a great place to make a quick exit if you're "just not into" the person.

Well, I hear hotel lobbies are the place to be if you're looking for married girls/guys "away on business". :wink:  I'd never thought of them as a place to "meet someone special".

Well, I hear hotel lobbies are the place to be if you're looking for married girls/guys "away on business". :wink:  I'd never thought of them as a place to "meet someone special".

 

I'm sure that can happen, keep an open mind Mr.  :wink:

Men are always looking.  And most guys always think they have a chance, no matter how unlikely or inappropriate the situation.  There is no where in particular you can go to meet someone special.  If there was, everybody would be there.  Besides, the randomness is part of the fun.  So don't rule out the gym, or the hotel lobby, although I would feel way more dirty trying to hook up in the hotel lobby.

Men are always looking.  And most guys always think they have a chance, no matter how unlikely or inappropriate the situation.  There is no where in particular you can go to meet someone special.  If there was, everybody would be there.  Besides, the randomness is part of the fun.  So don't rule out the gym, or the hotel lobby, although I would feel way more dirty trying to hook up in the hotel lobby.

 

You aint never lied.  This guy made a very very crude remark to me a few weeks ago.  I mean it was so vulgar, even me at my seasoned age, was taken back.

 

Hotel lobby's are the "new lounges".  I mean go into a W Hotel, or a Klimpton Hotel, those places are packed with young single folks socializing.

Maybe that's true in NYC MTS, but here, there's nobody in hotel lobbies except travelers.

Maybe that's true in NYC MTS, but here, there's nobody in hotel lobbies except travelers.

Not NYC, I've been to other cities where there are some very lively hotel lobbies.

Like where?  In the past or two year I've spent a good amount of time in hotel lobbies, from Phoenix to Atlanta to Cincy to NY and the only place I've ever seen young people hanging out and socializing who didn't have luggage was NYC.  Just curious where this could be happening?

Like where?  In the past or two year I've spent a good amount of time in hotel lobbies, from Phoenix to Atlanta to Cincy to NY and the only place I've ever seen young people hanging out and socializing who didn't have luggage was NYC.  Just curious where this could be happening?

Atlanta, miami, chicago, washington, dc, Ft. Lauderdale, San Juan, LA, Las Vegas, San Diego, Palm Springs to name a few.

I like it when the hotel lobby IS the bar. There was a hotel in Huntington WV like that (I think the hotel had been converted to apartments by the time I lived there, though). A lot of hotels in Germany are like that -- the desk clerks are the bartenders.

And that's another reminder:

 

11. It's the gym, not the tryouts for 'American Idol', and you ain't Luther, R. Kelly, or anyone who should be singing at the top of your lungs in ANY public setting, much less a gym!

 

Why do old guys love walking around the locker room naked? They act like they live in the damn locker room. They'll use the sauna, shave, just walk around everywhere...naked. It's obnoxious.

Women do that too, it's nasty.  and they SIT ON THE BENCHES. NAKED.  EW.