Posted September 10, 200816 yr From Cool Cleveland email blast this morning: Rockometer lands on Rock and Roll Boulevard Now that demolition of the old US Coast Guard station across from the Rock Hall on E. 9th Street has begun, we find ourselves at a crossroads. Will the Federal government give National Concession founder and redoubtable impresario Christopher Axelrod permission to build "the most elaborate" state-of-the-art, 2000-seat party center East of Las Vegas? We don't see why they wouldn't. As proposed, the Rockometer would sport 3 jumbo screens and a giant jukebox theme measuring the spirit level of Cleveland on the facade, while inside the flexible venue could host everything from Cleveland's every-third-year Rock Hall induction ceremonies and similar corporate celebrations to the Grammy Awards, featuring a hydraulic stage, a media center/broadcast facility, water and vapor effects, an underground tunnel to the Museum, and no doubt, lot of attitude. Check the video, and embrace the vision: http://www.TheRockometer.com What are everyone's thoughts? Personally, I like the concept, but the renderings leave a lot to be desired...
September 10, 200816 yr I like the concept with the exception of the underground tunnel. I'm not a fan of tunnels, we have plenty of well maintained sidewalks in Cleveland. I don't want to hear any crap about weather, etc. :roll:
September 10, 200816 yr I totally missed the part about the tunnel. Guess my brain knows that text just isn't worth even reading! No tunnels!
September 10, 200816 yr Cleveland Welcomes Apple? Pffft - they could at least say "Happy Birthday, MayDay!!!" on the ticker sign. :roll: clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
September 10, 200816 yr Cleveland Welcomes Apple? Pffft - they could at least say "Happy Birthday, MayDay!!!" on the ticker sign. :roll: But there's no little cake slice in your profile. When is your birthday?
September 10, 200816 yr Note my screen name and the date on the rendering :-) clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
September 10, 200816 yr It seems to dwarf the Rockhall, and what I thought was a marina behind seems to be a parking lot!!!! No more mistakes on the lakefront please.
September 10, 200816 yr It seems to dwarf the Rockhall, and what I thought was a marina behind seems to be a parking lot!!!! No more mistakes on the lakefront please. ITS A RENDERING AND THE FOCUS IS ON IT NOT THE ROCK HALL!!
September 10, 200816 yr Yeah I really don't think this is the best use for this space. The thing that is interesting is he mentions MMPI and the medical mart. It's encouraging, however far-fetched, that the medical mart could really be a catalyst for other far reaching concepts, and I guess this is one.
September 10, 200816 yr From the site: "Secondly, the RTA and Euclid Corridor Project will be completed soon. Tourists will be able to view the downtown area conveniently, as well as easily continue on to the University Circle area and points east. To aid in traffic flow and parking during events, as well as an added enticement for group tourism, and The Rockometer will provide themed shuttle service to area garages and parking lots." What's the point of shuttles when you have a parking lot right there?!? clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
September 10, 200816 yr From the site: "Secondly, the RTA and Euclid Corridor Project will be completed soon. Tourists will be able to view the downtown area conveniently, as well as easily continue on to the University Circle area and points east. To aid in traffic flow and parking during events, as well as an added enticement for group tourism, and The Rockometer will provide themed shuttle service to area garages and parking lots." What's the point of shuttles when you have a parking lot right there?!? There is no need for MORE parking! That is just insane! It directly across from the RockHall and GLSC, there is a massive garage there. Although this is just a rendering and concept, the tunnel and parking idea, should be throw out IMMEDIATELY! That parking could be a restaurant or interactive feature...or better yet A GAWD DAMN AQUARIUM! Sorry kids...my pressure is up today...carry on!
September 10, 200816 yr It seems to dwarf the Rockhall, and what I thought was a marina behind seems to be a parking lot!!!! No more mistakes on the lakefront please. ITS A RENDERING AND THE FOCUS IS ON IT NOT THE ROCK HALL!! Oh.. you mean that isnt an actual picture of it already built... WELL THEN IT S%CKS.
September 10, 200816 yr The relocation of the coast guard station provides the opportunity for another public-waterfront "touching point" so to speak. Outside of Voinovich Park, the area behind GLSC/RockHall, there are very few of these areas. I hope that whatever does eventually takes root here remembers this key point.
September 10, 200816 yr It seems to dwarf the Rockhall, and what I thought was a marina behind seems to be a parking lot!!!! No more mistakes on the lakefront please. ITS A RENDERING AND THE FOCUS IS ON IT NOT THE ROCK HALL!! Oh.. you mean that isnt an actual picture of it already built... WELL THEN IT S%CKS. HUSH NOW! :-D Yes, the current rending leaves a lot to be desired!
September 10, 200816 yr aaack, I am experiencing phony rock design motif overload. seriously though, I barfed in my mouth a little bit.
September 10, 200816 yr Golly gee, I sure hope it plays "I like that old time rock-n-roll.." 24-7!!! ;)
September 10, 200816 yr Golly gee, I sure hope it plays "I like that old time rock-n-roll.." 24-7!!! ;) 3231, you know I love you like a MayDay photo tour, but ...ah...not so much on that musical selection!
September 10, 200816 yr It is only someone's pipe dream vision. I don't think it has much of a chance of coming to fruition.
September 10, 200816 yr Have they really started demolishing the coast guard station? If so, I missed that one.
September 10, 200816 yr Golly gee, I sure hope it plays "I like that old time rock-n-roll.." 24-7!!! ;) 3231, you know I love you like a MayDay photo tour, but ...ah...not so much on that musical selection! hey, did you miss the ;) at the end of sentence?
September 10, 200816 yr Not to venture too far off-topic, but so long as they work this concept into a Campbell Administration-esque plan for the overall waterfront, I would fully be on board, pardon the pun.
September 10, 200816 yr I agree with flee, as long as it is done correctly I think this could be a great addition. Obviously what is being shown in this extremely preliminary rendering would not be considered "done correctly".
September 10, 200816 yr Worst rendering ever, but not a bad program to have there as long as the parking isn't realistic.
September 10, 200816 yr Worst rendering ever.. no it's not....but lets no go there... Weve seen some dooozies here before. I'm sure individually we've each seen worse!
September 10, 200816 yr I like the concept, and since this is the first set of renderings for the project, I won't be too harsh on it. But I would hope that the developer is not planning on adding parking to our lakefront.
September 10, 200816 yr The parking lot is for "employee parking" according to their site. Well then can't they have an employee shuttle?
September 10, 200816 yr The parking lot is for "employee parking" according to their site. Well then can't they have an employee shuttle? Why can't they take PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION and walk their lazy azzes to the office??!!
September 10, 200816 yr The parking lot is for "employee parking" according to their site. Well then can't they have an employee shuttle? Why can't they take PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION and walk their lazy azzes to the office??!! Well, yeah, that's what I was actually thinking, but even baby steps would do.
September 10, 200816 yr The parking lot is for "employee parking" according to their site. Well then can't they have an employee shuttle? Why can't they take PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION and walk their lazy azzes to the office??!! Well, yeah, that's what I was actually thinking, but even baby steps would do. NO more baby stepps and coddling BS. First people complain about the fare increase, but yet they want more parking. I'm sick of that idiotic, assbackwards train of thought!
September 10, 200816 yr I like this idea. Not sure if I'm a fan of the current design, either, but I like the idea of a giant jukebox near the Rock Hall. It has a very kitschy, Pop Art kinda feel to it, which I love.
September 10, 200816 yr I really don't want our lakefront to be a parade of tourist-oriented queso. I want to see the waterfront be more mixed use, more of a neighborhood, with some sort of overall plan that results in a coherent place. This is just another random building plopped on the waterfront.
September 10, 200816 yr I like the concept, especially if they can finally get induction ceremonies and the Grammys. The design... thank you, none for me please. That is about as tacky and cheesy a design as I've ever seen, and I live in Las Vegas. Also ... Rockometer... really. Yes I know it's an early render and probably just a concept/vision but it must be struck down with furious anger before it gets a head of steam. :wink:
September 10, 200816 yr ^Induction ceremonies are already coming here... this could just be a potential venue for them.
September 10, 200816 yr I like the concept, especially if they can finally get induction ceremonies and the Grammys. The design... thank you, none for me please. That is about as tacky and cheesy a design as I've ever seen, and I live in Las Vegas. Also ... Rockometer... really. Yes I know it's an early render and probably just a concept/vision but it must be struck down with furious anger before it gets a head of steam. :wink: Don't you have a show to do at the Flamingo or something?!!
September 10, 200816 yr ^Induction ceremonies are already coming here... this could just be a potential venue for them. Well, you left the door open for another one of my "questions". Now why in the world would we need this, when we have gorgeous public hall and the theaters of PHS. The mall site needs some love not TC...ok...back to our regularly scheduled program.
September 10, 200816 yr Had a look at the website. I think it's awful. There's nothing that says "cool" about it to me at all, and it's changed my opinion on this project alone. Honestly, if I hear "Cleveland Rocks" one more fucking time I'm going on a rampage. Does anyone know anything about Christopher Axelrod?
September 10, 200816 yr ^^http://www.christophergaxelrod.com/ He's done well for himself, doing what he does - event promotions, etc. However, I'm not sure which is tackier, the Siegfried and Roy statue (via Clvlndr in LV's link) or this "Cinemark/Tinseltown meets Wurlitzer Jukebox on the Lake". clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
September 10, 200816 yr ^Induction ceremonies are already coming here... this could just be a potential venue for them. Well, you left the door open for another one of my "questions". Now why in the world would we need this, when we have gorgeous public hall and the theaters of PHS. The mall site needs some love not TC...ok...back to our regularly scheduled program. excellent point. I think I just like the thought of in some way extending the "rock brand" particuarly in that location...
September 10, 200816 yr I like the concept, especially if they can finally get induction ceremonies and the Grammys. The design... thank you, none for me please. That is about as tacky and cheesy a design as I've ever seen, and I live in Las Vegas. Also ... Rockometer... really. Yes I know it's an early render and probably just a concept/vision but it must be struck down with furious anger before it gets a head of steam. :wink: Don't you have a show to do at the Flamingo or something?!! That's good stuff... but seriously I do my show at the fabulous Excalibur! :wink:
September 10, 200816 yr Excalibur? You sound more like a hooters, Palace station, westard ho or stardust casino performer. LOL
September 10, 200816 yr Excalibur? You sound more like a hooters, Palace station, westard ho or stardust casino performer. LOL Nonsense... I'm a professional Jouster. This is why I came to Vegas; there was just no work in Cleveland for someone who enjoys riding on a horse and piercing others with my lance while my fans enjoy some roast mutton or turkey leg. Now we should get back on topic before MayDay steps in and shows us what can really be done with a lance or ax or whatever. :-D
September 10, 200816 yr Excalibur? You sound more like a hooters, Palace station, westard ho or stardust casino performer. LOL Nonsense... I'm a professional Jouster. This is why I came to Vegas; there was just no work in Cleveland for someone who enjoys riding on a horse and piercing others with my lance while my fans enjoy some roast mutton or turkey leg. Now we should get back on topic before MayDay steps in and shows us what can really be done with a lance or ax or whatever. :-D Oh lawd I've been to the Kings tournament..............
September 10, 200816 yr jpop...be a man of your word! GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!!!!!! No, you did not! (I guess I was asking for it, though, huh? :) )
September 11, 200816 yr To paraphrase the principal in Billy Madison: "Mr. Axelrod, what you just said is the most insanely idiotic thing I have ever heard. Everyone here is now stupider for having heard it. I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul."
September 11, 200816 yr "....there was just no work in Cleveland for someone who enjoys riding on a horse and piercing others with my lance" by Clvlndr in LV This may be quote of the year, and I to enjoy piercing others with my lance ;)>
September 11, 200816 yr jpop...be a man of your word! GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!!!!!! No, you did not! (I guess I was asking for it, though, huh? :) ) Oh, Yes, I did! :-P
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