Blandtastic.

Actually I think this design is perfect -- for the National Security Agency or the CIA!

 

But the design really does suit a bunch of old white men who just want to be left alone.

I have some shocking news - I kept looking at the rendering, and I couldn't quite remember the context or the inspiration for the new HQ building; and then I realized it was all part of an insidious - nay, it's a DARTH Sidious plot!!! Look out Gungans, the tradE federATiON is coming for you!!!

 

 

Many Bothans died to bring us this information ;-)

 

*For those who don't get it - lots of Star Wars references in this post.

I think you should change your title from HBIC to HGIC (Head Geek In Charge).

Oh come on, you don't see the resemblance?!? ;-)

I have some shocking news - I kept looking at the rendering, and I couldn't quite remember the context or the inspiration for the new HQ building; and then I realized it was all part of an insidious - nay, it's a DARTH Sidious plot!!! Look out Gungans, the tradE federATiON is coming for you!!!

 

 

Many Bothans died to bring us this information ;-)

 

*For those who don't get it - lots of Star Wars references in this post.

 

Hehe, nice.  I may be young, but I am Star Wars edumacated!

Awesome on the Star Wars. 

 

I like how they put wings on top of the building's wings.  This increases downforce on the back wheels during acceleration, which adds traction and helps prevent fishtailing.  Is this an intentional metaphor?  I believe Eaton does make rear differentials.   

Well we are missing something in the rendering.... The parking decks..  Didn't they say they were going to build some nice massive parking decks for this? 

 

Or maybe the building is built on top of 3-4 floors of parking deck.. Which could explain why the building is shaped like that

I LOVE the Star Wars addition to this!

 

Regarding the original rendering-  *BARF*

I have some shocking news - I kept looking at the rendering, and I couldn't quite remember the context or the inspiration for the new HQ building; and then I realized it was all part of an insidious - nay, it's a DARTH Sidious plot!!! Look out Gungans, the tradE federATiON is coming for you!!!

 

 

Many Bothans died to bring us this information ;-)

 

*For those who don't get it - lots of Star Wars references in this post.

 

 

PRESS PLAY........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0YZTYci5yo&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0

I love how they point out in the article what a great view they will have of downtown. Like that makes everything ok. And as DocBroc pointed out the view they have now is much better. And as far as the rendering...puke

I have some shocking news - I kept looking at the rendering, and I couldn't quite remember the context or the inspiration for the new HQ building; and then I realized it was all part of an insidious - nay, it's a DARTH Sidious plot!!! Look out Gungans, the tradE federATiON is coming for you!!!

Many Bothans died to bring us this information ;-)

*For those who don't get it - lots of Star Wars references in this post.

 

OMG! It IS Star Wars!!!... I forgot to mention how pathetic looking the sterile lake looks. I can assure that they will remove all essential pond bank plants/habitats to create a sterile chemically laden lawn look--which ultimately will wreak havoc in them trying to keep that watering hole healthy--as it collects runoff. The sterileness of it perfectly reflects the personalities of all those who were a part of bringing it there and who designed it.  I hope the good 'ole folks at eaton are reading this thread.

 

 

If they wanted to build an ominous-looking glass building with a giant parking garage, they could have at least done it downtown. Then they wouldn't have to deal with that silly campus, which will rarely be used and be expensive to maintain, and that lake, which will be inevitably rendered lifeless from pesticides. Oh wait, they wanted the campus for some reason...

Come on lets think people. The reason they want to build this thing out in the burbs is because the executives live not downtown they live on the east side. Instead of a 45 min. drive in to work its right in there back yard. Why go through the hassle every morning of all the bullshit downtown when they can sneak through the back streets in the burbs and go right to work.

^ Yes.  There's no good way to get downtown from there, and it's the primary rich-people area in the county.  Thus we have a second "downtown" for corporate HQ purposes along 271 from Harvard to Mayfield.  This tide is already beginning to turn, and as time goes by I think we'll see younger executives abandoning Beachwood.  All we're waiting on is attrition.

I understand why they moved it there, I'm just not happy about it. I wish they could have just stayed downtown.

I don't understand why they moved downtown. Eaton is a shrinking, "old economy" manufacturing company. Rosetta software company, part of the "new economy" and has about the same number of employees as Eaton but is moving downtown from the eastern suburbs.

 

Why is one moving downtown and the other moving out? Because the "Theory Z" executives at Rosetta understand that to be competitive, they have to be attractive to young, creative talent. And those types of people want to be in urban settings. Eaton, by comparison, moved because it's command-and-control executives want to be closer to where they live.

 

Now, you tell me, if you're a young professional fresh out of college, at which company would you rather work? And if you were investing your money for the long-term, which company's stock would you buy?

Eaton is not a shrinking company.  It is a massive multinational corporation.  They are doing very well (financially).  Rossetta has nowhere near as many employees. 

Eaton is not a shrinking company. It is a massive multinational corporation. They are doing very well (financially). Rossetta has nowhere near as many employees.

This is true, but KJP was referring to Eaton's downtown employees, which is around 440. Rosetta is moving about 400 employees downtown.

Correct.

With a building that big and purpose-built, it won't be just 400 employees working there.  I would bet they are looking at refocusing their IT departments there.  With all the companies they've bought it becomes pretty crucial to have more centralized IT. 

With a building that big and purpose-built, it won't be just 400 employees working there. I would bet they are looking at refocusing their IT departments there. With all the companies they've bought it becomes pretty crucial to have more centralized IT.

 

Yes, which was indicated in the article when it said 700 employees including ones form downtown. 

They have a building in Highland Hts as well, and I'd assume they would move to the new building.

^Willoughby Hills actually -- unless we're thinking of different buildings

^Not sure...a buddy of mine works for them.  I thought he said he worked in Highland Hts, but I could be wrong.

There's an Eaton training center that is on the Southwest edge of Willoughby Hills near 271.  It doesn't employ that many people though (10 or 20 maybe?) and may or may not be moved to the new headquarters.  I don't see why it wouldn't move, but it wouldn't account for many of the 300 or so non-headquarters employees slated to move to the new facility.

Beachwood City Council gets glimpse of Eaton plans

 

BEACHWOOD, Ohio -- Representatives of Eaton Corp. and the Richard E. Jacobs Group showed several images of the manufacturer's planned corporate headquarters during a City Council meeting Monday night.

 

Eaton will ask Beachwood's planning and zoning commission on March 25 to consider a variance for 1,292 parking spaces for the project, a 53-acre corporate campus on the Chagrin Highlands property. The project will include a 10-story tower, flanked by two four- or five-story wings connected by a glass atrium.

 

More at http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2010/03/beachwood_city_council_gets_gl.html

Come one, come all, Rich old white men!  Come work here!!

 

Wow.

Did you see the first comment on cleveland.com?  Haha.

Is there going to be any room left for Figgie International's new headquarters?

 

Seriously though, I find it hilarious that 20 years ago this land was unincorporated Warrensville Township.  Somehow, the City of Beachwood got its hands on it and is still luring all kinds of new business there (from other parts of the region, not from outside of the region).  As if Beachwood needed any more tax revenue.

Is there going to be any room left for Figgie International's new headquarters?

 

Seriously though, I find it hilarious that 20 years ago this land was unincorporated Warrensville Township.  Somehow, the City of Beachwood got its hands on it and is still luring all kinds of new business there (from other parts of the region, not from outside of the region).  As if Beachwood needed any more tax revenue.

 

Because the city of Cleveland got it for them to lure corporations from OUTSIDE the region.  That is why Cleveland gets 50% of the revenue on this land.

I love how they say the campus is gonna be gated.......  You all have fun locking yourselves up in your own personal fortress!

I love how they say the campus is gonna be gated....... You all have fun locking yourselves up in your own personal fortress!

 

I've been to gated facilities before that you literally were NOT allowed to walk in to.  Absolutely ridiculous.  Secretary with a young child, working husband, and only one car need to take the bus to work?  FORGET IT!  We don't need your kind here!  Go work for Rosetta or something...

I was OK with the previous renderings, it's a suburban officeplex you can't expect much.  However, these new renderings literally look like they're designing the property to look like a toilet. 

 

Actually it also reminds me of Tri-C West done in glass instead of brick.

I actually like the design... when considered in the context of surburban-campus style office developments.  I really could give two shites how Beachwood dictates its land use.

Did you see the first comment on cleveland.com? Haha.

 

HAHA we are knuckleheads.

Give that guy credit for broadcasting our name through a media outlet with more readership.

Come one, come all, Rich old white men!  Come work here!!

The mentality of these ROWM is like Christopher Lloyd in Roger Rabbit ...."automobile dealerships, tire salons, restaurants that serve rapidly prepared food.....my god..... it'll be beautiful!

Give that guy credit for broadcasting our name through a media outlet with more readership.

 

Maybe that was MayDay in a covert advertising technique.  Look like a jackass ridiculing our website to drive the intelligent cleveland.com posters over here (all 4 of them)?  Genius!

Did you see the first comment on cleveland.com?  Haha.

 

HAHA we are knuckleheads.

 

This certainly isnt the first time that redbrickbarn has dissed UrbanOhio on Cleveland.com (Ive seen similar things from hin/her on there recently).  He really must have had some losing arguments on here at some point (or had a time out) and has a bone to pick, and an ego to repair. 

"Maybe that was MayDay in a covert advertising technique."

 

Nope. I've been too busy working :-)

"Maybe that was MayDay in a covert advertising technique."

 

Nope. I've been too busy working :-)

 

That's good to hear... Now back to Eaton.

Eaton breaks ground for $170 million headquarters project in Beachwood

Published: Thursday, June 10, 2010, 2:20 PM   

Michelle Jarboe, The Plain Dealer

 

 

BEACHWOOD, Ohio -- Eaton Corp. broke ground this morning for its new corporate headquarters, a $170 million project that will occupy a 53-acre site in this East Side suburb.

 

The diversified manufacturer, currently based in downtown Cleveland, plans to move about 700 employees to the Chagrin Highlands property in late 2012. The new Eaton headquarters will include a 580,000-square-foot building, enclosed parking, a fitness facility and walking trails.

 

Surrounded by tall grass, on a ridge above much of Cuyahoga County, Eaton officials, politicians and members of the development team plunged gleaming shovels into a pile of dirt. The project developer, the Richard E. Jacobs Group, expects to begin site work next week and to start raising steel for the buildings early next year.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2010/06/eaton_breaks_ground_for_170_mi.html

well, at least it was not South Carolina officials holding the shovels

Crain's Chicago Business has learned that large corporations are becoming disenchanted with

the giant corporate campuses they started building in the suburbs in the

1970s and are beginning to relocate major parts of their operations, and

sometimes the H.Q. itself, back into a traditional urban central business

district. 

 

The message "Corporate America" is beginning to understand: bright young people don't want to live in suburbs

anymore and don't want to waste a lot of time on car commuting, which keeps

them out of touch because they can't use their personal electronics while

driving.

 

Crain's Special Report: Corporate campuses in twilight

By: Eddie Baeb May 30, 2011

 

Like the disco ball, the regional shopping mall and the McMansion, the suburban corporate headquarters campus is losing its charm.

 

Remote, sprawling and splendidly isolated, such headquarters epitomized corporate America in the last quarter of the 20th century. Fleeing urban decay, companies like Motorola Inc., Allstate Corp. and Sears Roebuck & Co. built fortress-like complexes on the fringes of metropolitan Chicago. Jobs and residential development followed, fueling sprawl and congestion across the region.

 

Today, Sears Holdings Corp. and AT&T Inc. are looking to escape their compounds in northwest suburban Hoffman Estates. A shrunken Motorola has space to let in Schaumburg. Sara Lee Corp. eyes downtown office space after less than a decade in Downers Grove. Companies from Groupon Inc. to GE Capital hire thousands in Chicago while their suburban counterparts shed workers.

 

Read more at: http://www.chicagorealestatedaily.com/article/20110528/ISSUE01/305289984

VERY INTERESTING ARTICLE and probably most of the major points are pretty obvious to those of us on this board.

 

I do think that many of the factors for a slow movement downtown  (my take after reading the article...despite the tone of the article it did not seem to be a ground swell...just a positive trend) in Chicago are unique to that city and region.  For example, one of issues raised was the problem with a commute from suburb to surburb versus a commute to the central city.  Hampering the suburb to surburb  commute in Chicago is the vastness of the region, especially compared with the established transportation lines into the central city.  While sometimes a pain in the butt, a suburb to surburb commute is less of an issue in Cleveland.

 

 

^^I guess Eaton didn't get the memo.

It's not just Chicago. Note that PNC is building a 40-story tower in downtown Pittsburgh.

 

And I think it's easier to commute to downtown Cleveland compared to some cross-town commuting. I-480 has gotten to be pretty ridiculous between I-77 and I-271 in both directions.

Word.  And if you're somewhere along 271, it's not easy to get anywhere that's not also along 271.

I vote we delete this thread and the American Greetings thread. I mean do we really  need to watch the progress of these. Sorry but it just pisses me off to no end. I wish I could just block them from the forum. And I hope PNC runs into the same roadblocks when seeking financing for there own project as other developers face when they come to PNC for money.