January 12, 20232 yr 7 hours ago, Gordon Bombay said: Coincidentally, I was by there on a Saturday night last weekend. It was about 7 p.m. with one Baron Bus and one Greyhound in the lot. There’s a fence around the area and what seem to be trailers for portable toilets (but not for passenger waiting). The whole area is lit by fluorescent lights and just looks like it’s storage for surplus buses. There’s nothing around in terms of food, coffee, hotels that’s walkable. The only way to reach the “station” is via car, or, as mentioned earlier—threadbare public transit. Sad sad sad.
January 12, 20232 yr 10 hours ago, Boomerang_Brian said: Hmm. Does Greyhound still own the Cleveland terminal, or did that sell along with the surrounding parking lots? First Group acquired the Cleveland Greyhound station in May 2022. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 12, 20232 yr 10 hours ago, jwulsin said: Sad sad sad. Agreed. I’ve never heard great things about Greyhound and never found any of their options out of Cincinnati to be appealing when compared to Amtrak/Flights/Just Driving, but I at least always looked and considered it because the station was centrally located. Now, though, I wouldn’t bother (although, I certainly recognize it’s a privilege to be able to compare Greyhound to other options). Still boggles my mind that the Riverfront Transit Center isn’t used for intercity busses and more Metro routes. Although the location is challenging for some routes, I still feel that the RTC would be a much better passenger waiting area than Government Square (assuming the streetcar operations were shored up to be a bit more reliable and with better hours).
January 13, 20232 yr 19 hours ago, Gordon Bombay said: Still boggles my mind that the Riverfront Transit Center isn’t used for intercity busses and more Metro routes. Although the location is challenging for some routes, I still feel that the RTC would be a much better passenger waiting area than Government Square (assuming the streetcar operations were shored up to be a bit more reliable and with better hours). What's the situation with the ventilation down there? Is it always on and set to the same level or does it fluctuate base on active usage?
January 16, 20232 yr On 1/13/2023 at 2:18 PM, Dev said: What's the situation with the ventilation down there? Is it always on and set to the same level or does it fluctuate base on active usage? I’m not entirely sure. The Rt. 85 and Metro Plus both use it now, but I’m not sure if they’re able to do so due to an improved ventilation system, or, since the service is so infrequent they don’t even have to worry about. After the 2018 flood, extensive refurbishment work was done to the RTC, but I don’t know if that included any changes to ventilation system. Edited January 16, 20232 yr by Gordon Bombay
May 11, 20232 yr Cross-posted from the Cleveland Campus District thread.... 3 hours ago, KJP said: Greyhound station leaving downtown By Ken Prendergast / May 11, 2023 Cleveland may soon join the list of medium- and large-sized cities whose central business districts have lost their Greyhound bus stations to less-accessible locations. And that’s of concern to low-income travelers, college students and others trying to save money or avoid the stress of driving while traveling to and from Cleveland’s station at 1465 Chester Ave., downtown. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/05/11/greyhound-station-leaving-downtown/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 11, 20232 yr It seems to there could be a market for quality intercity bus service. Why Greyhound/Flixbus isn't intent on providing it is rather puzzling. Edited May 11, 20232 yr by gildone
May 11, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, gildone said: It seems to there could be a market for quality intercity bus service. Why Greyhound/Flixbus isn't intent on providing it is rather puzzling. Speculating that it's because the corporate overlords demand a higher profit margin than can be obtained. Locally, Barons bus lines have been expanding, but they seem more like special-occasion and excursion bus lines rather than a general transport service. My guess is that national or even broader regional service requires so much capital investment that anyone with that much capital has better investment opportunities elsewhere.
May 17, 20232 yr OurBus is starting service to Cleveland in October to Buffalo, Rochester and Ithaca. https://www.ourbus.com/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 17, 20232 yr 38 minutes ago, KJP said: OurBus is starting service to Cleveland in October to Buffalo, Rochester and Ithaca. https://www.ourbus.com/ I wonder if they will stop in Erie?
July 24, 20231 yr They should still move the stop somewhere downtown, but at least a bus will serve the greyground station. Cross posted from the Cincinnati Metro topic METRO TO INTRODUCE NEW CONNECTION TO GREYHOUND STATION IN ARLINGTON HEIGHTS Jul 24, 2023 The new connection will go into effect with routine, quarterly service improvements planned to go into effect Sunday, Aug. 13. CINCINNATI – Multiple Metro fixed routes will see minor time changes and increased frequency as part of the transit agency’s routine, quarterly service enhancements. In addition to annual service increases to accommodate the new Cincinnati Public Schools (CPS) academic year, Metro will add new service along Rt. 43 serving the new Greyhound/Barons Bus station on Galbraith Road. “Since its relocation from Downtown to Arlington Heights last fall, Metro has been in discussions with Greyhound on how best to continue providing this critical connection for Hamilton County residents to access this inter-regional transportation service,” said Metro Sr. Vice President of External Affairs Brandy Jones. “Thanks to those residents’ continued support of our mission, we are pleased to provide this new service.” The new, enhanced Rt. 43 will provide 24-hour service to the Galbraith Rd. Greyhound/Barons Bus station seven days a week, as frequently as every 30 minutes during peak travel times
August 29, 20231 yr Columbus: New Greyhound Station Targeted by City for Substandard Conditions The Greyhound bus service relocated this summer to the city’s far west side to very little fanfare and a whole lot of social media complaints. The general public consensus was that the service was too far from the central city, and lacking in first-and-last-mile options to get people to and from the station for trips. This morning, Columbus City Attorney Zach Klein released a statement on the lawsuit filed by the city regarding the new station, stating that the new terminal is unsafe, unsecure and unsanitary. “Moving a business from one location to another doesn’t give owners permission to operate a public nuisance at the expense of the surrounding neighborhoods,” stated Klein. “Public safety is our priority and the amount of crime at the terminal and the conditions which patrons are subjected to are unacceptable. The City Attorney’s Office will use every legal tool we have to ensure that any bus line operator in Columbus is safe, accessible and compliant.” More below: https://columbusunderground.com/new-greyhound-station-targeted-by-city-for-substandard-conditions-we1/ "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 14, 20231 yr Cleveland Greyhound/Barons station situation "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 15, 20231 yr Greyhound in talks to relocate to Puritas Rapid Station: https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/cleveland-greyhound-in-talks-to-relocate-to-puritas-rapid-station/ar-AA1jQ0Ki Edited November 15, 20231 yr by gildone
November 15, 20231 yr That's a hell of a lot better than where Cincinnati and Columbus put their "new" Greyhound stations. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 24, 20231 yr It's possible Greyhound/Barons may serve both downtown and Puritas, like it used to. Just a different downtown station... Greyhound, Barons may offer downtown, west-side stops https://neo-trans.blog/2023/11/13/greyhound-barons-may-offer-downtown-west-side-stops/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 18, 20231 yr CNN shedding more light on greyhound bus station closures. Talks about Cincinnati in particular. The Cincy greyhound pick up truly is a disgrace. https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/17/business/greyhound-buses-transportation-cities/index.html
December 18, 20231 yr The whole concept of curbside pickup is broken and does not work, at least in the States. I remember many bad nights of Megabus and its ghost buses. Waiting by Public Square. Waiting behind Public Square. Waiting around W3. Freezing. No one knowing anything. No one to call. The only hope was #Megabusfails for any information. No way anyone should go through that again.
December 18, 20231 yr Talk about an industry that expects everyone else to do everything for them. Cars are expensive as hell, they take people's drivers' licenses away for farting and they get left with that. Then Republicans run around with a snare drum yelling "Absolutely No Trains!"
April 12, 20241 yr Cleveland’s Greyhound/Barons Bus station futures By Ken Prendergast / April 12, 2024 While city-to-city bus services have vacated traditional downtown stations for remote, curbside boarding locations in Ohio cities like Cincinnati, Columbus and Dayton, Cleveland travelers may be spared that treatment in a plan being worked out with the city. But city planners and advocates say the long-term station site may be a new multimodal transportation center linking all modes of intercity and intracity transportation elsewhere in Downtown Cleveland. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/04/12/clevelands-greyhound-barons-bus-station-futures/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 9, 2024Aug 9 A free article... Greyhound/Barons station may move to Brookpark rapid By Ken Prendergast / August 9, 2024 The Cleveland Browns aren’t the only one considering a move from Downtown Cleveland to suburban Brook Park. Now, it’s Greyhound/Barons intercity bus services that could move to the west-side suburb near Cleveland International Hopkins Airport. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/08/09/greyhound-barons-station-may-move-to-brookpark-rapid/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 9, 2024Aug 9 21 minutes ago, KJP said: A free article... Greyhound/Barons station may move to Brookpark rapid By Ken Prendergast / August 9, 2024 The Cleveland Browns aren’t the only one considering a move from Downtown Cleveland to suburban Brook Park. Now, it’s Greyhound/Barons intercity bus services that could move to the west-side suburb near Cleveland International Hopkins Airport. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/08/09/greyhound-barons-station-may-move-to-brookpark-rapid/ The Brook Park Planning Commission Agenda lists the address as 17510 Brookpark, which would be the East Overflow lot. https://www.cityofbrookpark.com/building_dept/2024/2024 Board of Zoning Appeals Meeting Agenda - 08-05-24.pdf
August 9, 2024Aug 9 50 minutes ago, KJP said: A free article... Greyhound/Barons station may move to Brookpark rapid By Ken Prendergast / August 9, 2024 The Cleveland Browns aren’t the only one considering a move from Downtown Cleveland to suburban Brook Park. Now, it’s Greyhound/Barons intercity bus services that could move to the west-side suburb near Cleveland International Hopkins Airport. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/08/09/greyhound-barons-station-may-move-to-brookpark-rapid/ Is it wishful thinking/foolish optimism to think this might synergize with a potential Brightline route? Their Cleveland route concept ended at the airport and this is one Rapid stop from Hopkins. Maybe the Cleveland drop-off could be in Brook Park?
August 9, 2024Aug 9 2 hours ago, Zagapi said: Is it wishful thinking/foolish optimism to think this might synergize with a potential Brightline route? Their Cleveland route concept ended at the airport and this is one Rapid stop from Hopkins. Maybe the Cleveland drop-off could be in Brook Park? In theory, with some slight tweaks, we could have a mixed use development within walking distance of an international airport, intercity bus station, Intercity train station, and intracity rail station. Safe to assume those tweaks aren't happening, but if it were up to me...
August 13, 2024Aug 13 I can't read the whole article but it says CSU is why the station moved. That's too bad because I'd think affordable intercity bus service would actually be perfect for college students. CLEVELAND, Ohio – Cleveland State University rejected a plan to relocate the city’s Greyhound bus terminal on its grounds, saying “the safety and security of the CSU campus, and the strategic and financial priorities of the University, must come first,” according to a spokesperson. The new transit center, instead, will move to suburban Brook Park, about a dozen miles from the central city, on land owned by the Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority. https://www.cleveland.com/news/2024/08/cleveland-state-nixed-plans-for-relocated-greyhound-bus-station-near-campus.html
August 14, 2024Aug 14 21 hours ago, coneflower said: I can't read the whole article but it says CSU is why the station moved. That's too bad because I'd think affordable intercity bus service would actually be perfect for college students. CLEVELAND, Ohio – Cleveland State University rejected a plan to relocate the city’s Greyhound bus terminal on its grounds, saying “the safety and security of the CSU campus, and the strategic and financial priorities of the University, must come first,” according to a spokesperson. The new transit center, instead, will move to suburban Brook Park, about a dozen miles from the central city, on land owned by the Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority. https://www.cleveland.com/news/2024/08/cleveland-state-nixed-plans-for-relocated-greyhound-bus-station-near-campus.html Poor show, CSU. I know the Ivory Tower would never step foot in a Greyhoud station, but a lot of students actually use the bus.
November 19, 2024Nov 19 Barons-Greyhound Lease at Brookpark station OK’d By Ken Prendergast / November 19, 2024 With the Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority’s (GCRTA) board of trustees unanimously approving a lease with Barons Bus Inc. today, the intercity bus carrier and its partner Greyhound have started on a timetable to relocate out of the historic Downtown Cleveland Greyhound station, 1465 Chester Ave. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/11/19/barons-greyhound-lease-at-brookpark-station-okd/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 28Feb 28 New charter bus network to link Cleveland to Columbus, Detroit Anna Fifelski, Crain's Detroit Business Feb 27th, 2025 Gogo Charters, a national charter bus company, is launching a bus services network that connects major Midwestern cities across six states. Midwest Charter Network is a new intercity ticketed motorcoach service that is slated to begin in summer 2025. The Gogo Charter Cleveland headquarters will be located at Cleveland Marriott Downtown Key Tower at 1360 West Mall Drive. https://www.crainscleveland.com/transportation/gogo-charters-announces-midwest-bus-network
March 5Mar 5 Charter bus operator to offer Midwest routes By Ken Prendergast / March 5, 2025 Starting this summer, GOGO Charters will begin offering regularly scheduled, daily bus services from Cleveland as part of a 15-city Midwest expansion. The new service promises fares as low as $10 for those who book early, similar to Megabus which operated popular routes to Cleveland prior to the pandemic. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2025/03/05/charter-bus-operator-to-offer-midwest-routes/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 6Mar 6 'With luxurious motorcoaches departing daily, travelers will soon enjoy a refined, convenient, and connected alternative for regional travel.” Great to see more travel options, but let's not pretend this is the Orient Express
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