Posted September 26, 200816 yr Either directly from our favorite unmoderated forum :roll:, or just make some crap up that sounds like it is from there. I'll start, "last one out of Cleveland turn off the lights"
September 26, 200816 yr There are so many that I've given up trying to reason with those idiots. How about "It should be a crime to raise your children within the limits of the city of Cleveland"
September 26, 200816 yr Are they as bad as City-data? "I would strongly discourage you from buying a house in these areas- that is the eastern suburbs. First of all, they are all on a decline and are suffering population loss. Second, taxes are sky high. Third, property values are still declining and have a long way to go. If you are by yourself, rent an apartment- there are plenty of cheap apts in little italy or Clev Heights with easy access to Case that will run you $600 a month for 2 bedrooms. If you buy a house, you will lose out on property taxes, excess utilities such as water and sewer, mortgage interest minus the tax shield (which tax shield won't be much if you have no taxable income cause your in school), and the prinicple that you won't recover when (not if) you sell at a lower price. Once you are done with Law School, then maybe decide what you want to do. All of Cuyahoga County is on a decline and is on the point of no return. If you buy now you will be sorry. The only areas that I would say its OK to buy is downtown. There is high demand there and lack of inventory. The Euclid Corridor project should be done soon so you could take public transport from downtown and be at Case quickly."
September 27, 200816 yr ^ Wow, that's a really rare show of support (or at least lack of disdain) for public transportation/the EC from that site. If your question wasn't facetious, I'm actually inclined to say City-Data is worse than cleveland.com, simply because UOers occasionally post on the latter.
September 27, 200816 yr The funny thing about city-data is that the people are very opinionated but usually have no idea what they're talking about. Most of the time the statistics are outdated by at least 4 years and they don't pay close attention to what changes have been made since then. They also don't understand the social, economic and political driving force behind it.
September 27, 200816 yr I don't know why I thought this was so funny - but I did. Suspect tosses cash during rush-hour police chase Posted by Jizy2 on 09/25/08 at 11:59AM It depends on what type of partying you're doing. A lot of people do blow all night. All bars and most resaurants close by 2 am, you think they all go to bed after work, do you? Posted by mrawjones on 09/25/08 at 12:05PM WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 27, 200816 yr Unmoderated forums and USENET have just gotten nasty over the years. My fellow MTR (misc.trasnsport.road) readers such as Seicer, Magyar and Mr. Sparkle can vouch for the negativity, name-calling and flaming that are rampant there. I am disappointed in what has changed in that newsgroup since I started reading it in the mid-'90s. Everybody used to be so nice to each other.
September 27, 200816 yr Akron family gets 6 years for making meth Posted by Maggi Martin/Plain Dealer Reporter September 26, 2008 14:41PM Categories: Breaking News AKRON -- Three members of an Akron family will serve six years in prison after a jury convicted them of making and possessing methamphetamine. Posted by PhatBass on 09/26/08 at 3:07PM I'll bet they didn't but 6 or 7 teeth between the three of them. Posted by spoonful on 09/26/08 at 4:01PM The family that cooks together, stays together.
September 30, 200816 yr From todays story about the bus accident at west 6th and superior: Posted by tammie67girl on 09/30/08 at 7:54AM Have you ever seen the way the RTA bus driver drive? The speed and they cut you off and now run you over if you get it the way. they are very uncurtious and very rude so watch out for them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Inappropriate? Alert us. Post a commentPosted by realexists on 09/30/08 at 8:03AM Bus drivers are pure maniacs on the road. I'm pregnant and my husband has chosen to drive me to work because I cross the same intersection where this incident happens. The bus drivers from Superior run through red lights to turn onto Prospect. Increased training needs to occur and now, otherwise I say resume the layoffs. This is the second time in as many months someone has been hit there....by a damn bus. It's angering.
September 30, 200816 yr But of course, I've *never* seen a stupid pedestrian just walk out onto the street without even looking. :roll: clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
September 30, 200816 yr Can this be moved to the trash bin? Those idiots add nothing! Why give them a spotlight? What is the value of this thread?
September 30, 200816 yr Oh for god's sake lighten up - if it gets out of hand, it goes in the trash. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
September 30, 200816 yr From todays story about the bus accident at west 6th and superior: Posted by tammie67girl on 09/30/08 at 7:54AM Have you ever seen the way the RTA bus driver drive? The speed and they cut you off and now run you over if you get it the way. they are very uncurtious and very rude so watch out for them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Inappropriate? Alert us. Post a commentPosted by realexists on 09/30/08 at 8:03AM Bus drivers are pure maniacs on the road. I'm pregnant and my husband has chosen to drive me to work because I cross the same intersection where this incident happens. The bus drivers from Superior run through red lights to turn onto Prospect. Increased training needs to occur and now, otherwise I say resume the layoffs. This is the second time in as many months someone has been hit there....by a damn bus. It's angering. Another bonus about light rail is that once trains replace more bus lines, suburbanites and other bus haters won't dislike transit as much. Streetcars/light rail are much more predictable in their movements. You can't really complain about what a streetcar does when you made the decision to drive on the tracks.
September 30, 200816 yr From todays story about the bus accident at west 6th and superior: Posted by tammie67girl on 09/30/08 at 7:54AM Have you ever seen the way the RTA bus driver drive? The speed and they cut you off and now run you over if you get it the way. they are very uncurtious and very rude so watch out for them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Inappropriate? Alert us. Post a commentPosted by realexists on 09/30/08 at 8:03AM Bus drivers are pure maniacs on the road. I'm pregnant and my husband has chosen to drive me to work because I cross the same intersection where this incident happens. The bus drivers from Superior run through red lights to turn onto Prospect. Increased training needs to occur and now, otherwise I say resume the layoffs. This is the second time in as many months someone has been hit there....by a damn bus. It's angering. Another bonus about light rail is that once trains replace more bus lines, suburbanites and other bus haters won't dislike transit as much. Streetcars/light rail are much more predictable in their movements. You can't really complain about what a streetcar does when you made the decision to drive on the tracks. I think you're underestimating the amount of anger and hatrid on Cleveland.com. Someone would complain "I was just minding my own business when some train came at me out of nowhere. Darn criminal train drivers can't stay out of my way! Why don't the RTA police come ticket the train operators for taking up the whole tracks. They should drug test those train operators. I can't wait to get away from this town."
September 30, 200816 yr I dont know why i waste my time reading the comments on cleveland.com still, but this is another one from the RTA accident that absolutely amazes me: Posted by snubberbarb9 on 09/30/08 at 9:14AM This is what happens when RTA bus drivers think they are above other motorist and pedestrians on the roads and streets of Cleveland. This and other incidents is just a culmination of a run-away transit system. Pedestrians have an un-inhibited right to cross the street at any and every street crossing and should not have to fear getting run down by wayward bus drivers. A lot of the crossings in Cleveland are visably unsafe just based on the way the signal lights operate. I have witnessed RTA bus drivers pulling out into pedestrain crosswalks in anticipation of getting a jump on the signal lights. The notion that RTA doesnt have to respect other motorist and the idea that a turn signal gives a bus driver the right to plow over a pedestrain is dumb. Maybe someone should come up with a newer transit system and put the money hungry disrespectful RTA company out of buisness.
October 3, 200816 yr This just cracked me up too much not to post here. "If your such a great hospital how come everytime i go there you have sick people all over the place? Your obviously not doing your jobs."
October 3, 200816 yr This just cracked me up too much not to post here. "If your such a great hospital how come everytime i go there you have sick people all over the place? Your obviously not doing your jobs." WTF??? Uhhhhh ....
October 3, 200816 yr I would usually consider that a joke, but on cleveland.com that may be a serious comment.
October 24, 200816 yr "And anything that helps Cleveland, benefits you car driving fat @$$ overweight slobs in the suburbs." From the healthline opening article.
October 24, 200816 yr the rta healthline thread is still going strong. wow, just wow. some people just don't get it. :wtf:
October 30, 200816 yr Cleveland.com comments make me sick. I was googling info about yesterday's Obama rally concert with Jay Z and Lebron James. A lot of people on that site don't get ANYTHING. "Funny how 98% of the African-American population is voting for Obama and about 45% of the Whites . But were the ones that are always being accused of being racist if we bring up any thing derogatory towards Obama ." Finally somebody with some common sense stepped in: "Open your little brain and realize that over 90% of African Americans are democrats to begin with..." "'Geez - if the cops in Cleveland want to know where most of the criminals will be hanging out, they have their spot." Whether or not you are an Obama, Jay Z, or Lebron fan, those comments are really ignorant.
November 17, 200816 yr What local bloggers are saying about ... this site's comments and dancing like your mom Posted by JKroll November 17, 2008 05:47AM A roundup of opinion and information from local blogs Christine at Really Bad Cleveland Accent wants more people to add their comments to cleveland.com, to combat what she calls a "cesspool of ignorance": I've come to the conclusion that by not participating, we are committing the intellectual equivalent of suburban flight. That is, we are taking our intellectual tax base and fleeing to the fringes, to where people are more like us, rather than staying behind and trying to change things for the better. We are leaving what should be the epicenter of intelligent discussion about our region -- our daily newspaper -- to decay just like we left our urban core to decay. Rob Pintingolo, Extraordinary Observations, doubts that good comments can drive out the bad: While I give Christine Borne props for calling on the blogosphere to clean up Cleveland.com, I am afraid that it is a job that simply can't be solved from the grassroots. The problem, of course, is that even posting rational, well written comments will do little to spur intelligent discussion. Intelligent posts are mocked and attacked ad-hominem. At the end of the day, the exercise is mentally and emotionally draining for those of us who care about injecting reason into a cesspool of ingorance. You can find another view at Lustfelt 4 My Rustbelt. But enough about us. While politics has consumed many blogs in recent weeks, there have been posts about other things. Like this one from Alexa on Cleveland's a Plum: i have moves you've never seen before... on the dance floor. or at least i did. until i suddenly turned into a 40 year old white woman with four kids and a minivan. when did the transition from me wearing tight black pants while booty poppin' to me doing the chicken dance at weddings happen? it's like i blinked my eyes and i started dancing like my mom. Michael Ruhlman says we're a nation of culinary sissies, making up imaginary allergies: My favorite stories are from servers who tell of customers who claim to be allergic to dairy--so no milk, cream, or butter--and then order the cheese at the end of the meal. People allergic to grapefruit? Or sweet peppers? Please. Fennel? Come on. As Harold McGee writes in On Food and Cooking, an estimated 2% of the adult population have food allergies. ... All other "allergies," my guess is, stem from ignorance and fear and a generally food-neurotic culture. I wonder if the French and Italians and Spanish, who tend to be so sensible about how and when to eat, report a similar incidence. Any servers reading this? I'd love to hear the best "I'm allergic to" story. Finally, an utterly wonderful post on Fivehusbands. It starts with a letter she found among her father's things, a letter written decades ago: Oran le 12 Fevrier 1946 Dearest Carl, I am sorry to answer so late your long and charming letters which reached me only in January; because I have had a lot of troubles home, though I have been thinking of you and I am thinking at you always. ... I am pretty sure, Darling, that you can't come back to Oran, but I will surely go to the States to see you, if you care to give me your address. ... Ho, la la --- oh! Darling I think of you always, and the good time we had together. I like often to see like you the little pictures! souvenirs of our good time, and in the last one that you sent wish your letters, I see you a lot better, I can see pretty well your insouciant smile. Fivehusbands proceeds to tell the story of discovering the letter, and fitting its words into the puzzle of her father's life: I never knew my father as anything but a disappointed man. His happiness, when it came, was rarely shared with his children. It softens his memory to know that he was young and charming and happy. It's a touching, complex story. Well worth the reading. Comments dbra says... "cesspool of ignorance": that statement was actually made by Rob Pintingolo bUt - Thank you to them both for speaking the ugly truth- the article forgot to mention another Cleveland.com phenomena - as soon as someone dOEs post something intelligent, the entire blog disappears... Posted on 11/17/08 at 8:43AM BlueRauchm4n says... The problem here is a systemic one, rooted in the illicit hiring practices at this site. Obviously, when the fools running this site decided to hire uneducated clown 'bloggers' like Dan Labbe who post utter drivel (that up until recently made the spell-check on Microsoft Word puke), bring on graphic artists who can't figure out how to proportionately resize images for articles, and appoint 'editors' who either don't review material or review it only to the point where the multitude of errors indicate a Kent State education (Kent Read, Kent Write, Kent State), Cleveland.com as an entity decidedly set a precedent of failure, ignorance, and carelessness, which has given the majority of its users no incentive to post anything that could be considered remotely close to being intelligible. You've set the bar low enough for disgraces like ItsAlex to feel as if she is empowered to espouse her ill-conceived theories about the Indians. Through their negligence, the imbeciles in charge of this site have allowed an undignified pack of buffoons, racists, philistines, and noobs to run wild on the forums, silencing any voice of reason, and if anyone has the audacity to criticize the site, they are promptly banned and their posts deleted. Posted on 11/17/08 at 10:15AM
November 17, 200816 yr half of those are advancenet (parent of cleveland.com) employees themselves tossing out nonsense to get reactions and drive up page views.
November 23, 200816 yr I thought this was an interesting view... Akron as the emergent leader of Northeast Ohio??? Posted by grnbstrd on 11/23/08 at 9:04AM I wonder what the relationship between between the City of Pittsburgh and the State of PA has been like. We've had about 30 years of absolute crap state leadership and although Cleveland has a lot of politics, it hasn't had any real leadership in at least as many decades. I've talked to regional reps for international corporations, they tell me Columbus, Cincy and Dayton are all doing fine, but Toledo, Cleveland and Youngstown are on their death beds. CSU is an overglorified community college, if they aren't going to get some top notch programs and quit catering to the lowest-common-denominator of academia, I'd write them off. Akron at least is in a position to be turned into Ohio's Ann Arbor. It has the Polymer Institute and Kent, which is only 15-20 minutes away, has the Liquid Crystal Institute. Akron has less to get out from under as a city than Cleveland does too, it just needs to run out all the white trash and crackheads. NEO could come back, I just don't think Cleveland is it's best hope.
November 24, 200816 yr ^ What are you doing, reading comments from other cities' online newspapers? lol
November 24, 200816 yr I thought this was an interesting view... Akron as the emergent leader of Northeast Ohio??? Posted by grnbstrd on 11/23/08 at 9:04AM I wonder what the relationship between between the City of Pittsburgh and the State of PA has been like. We've had about 30 years of absolute crap state leadership and although Cleveland has a lot of politics, it hasn't had any real leadership in at least as many decades. I've talked to regional reps for international corporations, they tell me Columbus, Cincy and Dayton are all doing fine, but Toledo, Cleveland and Youngstown are on their death beds. CSU is an overglorified community college, if they aren't going to get some top notch programs and quit catering to the lowest-common-denominator of academia, I'd write them off. Akron at least is in a position to be turned into Ohio's Ann Arbor. It has the Polymer Institute and Kent, which is only 15-20 minutes away, has the Liquid Crystal Institute. Akron has less to get out from under as a city than Cleveland does too, it just needs to run out all the white trash and crackheads. NEO could come back, I just don't think Cleveland is it's best hope. Ummmm, CSU is not the science school of Cleveland, Case is. The Case Polymer Department was the first one in the country, and is still often the most widely recognized program.
November 24, 200816 yr Why am I not the least bit surprised that a cleveland.com city basher that uses idiotic logic is 100% incorrect with their assessment of the region. Those dim-witted posters really make me laugh.
November 25, 200816 yr Okay, technically not from cleveland.com, but definitely in the same spirit and definitely too good to pass up. Comment from a Times-Picayune series that was suggesting us as a revitalization success model, right around the same time we were looking to Pittsburgh for answers on how to "fix" ourselves ... Anyway, is Moonshady one of us?! I question some of the facts they offer but nice to see someone aggressively sticking up for the Cleve ... Posted by NOLABubba on 11/24/08 at 7:26PM So, we want to pattern ourselves after Cleveland also known as The Mistake by the Lake?" Posted by moonshady on 11/25/08 at 12:33AM Actually Cleveland has done wonders with its city and if you ever visit it you would be amazed. They easily have then second best arts and culture in the Midwest. They have the world renowned Cleveland Orchestra, Cleveland Museum of Art, MOMO, Rock Hall, Great Lakes Science Center, NASA, Federal Reserve Bank with great tours, 2nd largest performing arts center in the nation ... ... More at http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2008/11/smaller_smarter_rehab_dollars.html
November 26, 200816 yr Like CincyImages pointed out, people have a negative perception of their town when they don't get out much. People from other cities who move to Cleveland probably realize the positive aspects of the city. In most cases, I think these people are just ignorant of what's going on around them because they're so detached from their own city and everything that is around them. They generally don't look for ways to get involved in their community; they don't know other people who do positive things for the city or even say positive things about the city and they don't know how to have fun. They never feel inclined to open the local cultural newspaper that explains what's going on around town. They don't try out the new restaurants and bars. They've never been to a real market. They were never pushed to go to an art gallery. They've never taken a tour of the new lofts. They live in a bubble and they're found in every city.
November 26, 200816 yr ^ What are you doing, reading comments from other cities' online newspapers? lol There's been quite a bit of discussion about Cleveland.com comments concerning the PNC-National City merger and the recent Pittsburgh/Cleveland comparison article amongst faculty and students in my department. It's a window into what regular Clevelanders are thinking.
November 26, 200816 yr It's a window into what regular Clevelanders are thinking. now substitute regular Clevelanders for 'angry cynics firing off baseless assertions' and you have what the typical cleveland.com posters are "thinking". Thats a dirty window Evergrey...don't get too caught up in the web of stupidity in which is cleveland.com comments.
November 26, 200816 yr I'm a moderator at The Orange and Brown report, where a lot of us have similar views about the post quality at cleveland.com. No fault of theirs, the fact is it's easy to find and largely unmoderated. Post quality maintenance quite simply requires moderation, and at times it has to be heavy handed.
November 26, 200816 yr ^ I sympathize with you! I'm sure moderating a Browns forum has to really keep you on your toes and your finger on the delete button.
November 29, 200816 yr Posted by Krazyk47 on 11/28/08 at 12:16PM The biggest perpetrator of negative attitudes about Cleveland is the Pee Dee. This paper is garbage. Everything in it is written from the perspective of 60 year old insurance salesman living in strongsville. The city of Cleveland is not that bad, and University Circle is not that great but that is not the perception you would get reading this rag. LOL!!
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