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They keep saying density but this is all setbacks and driveways and lawns.  The mixed-use aspect is insignificant but there's lots of text about walking trails and open plazas.  The parking lots are hidden, I do like that part.  But walkability in an urban context has nothing to do with tiny ornamental trails.  It's about not needing a car for daily living.  That means walking down the actual street with purpose because you have a nearby destination.  This kind of planning fails to get us there. 

 

We need more raw density than this to make a good business case for neighborhood business.  And we don't need any more brand new 1970s suburban tract housing.  Somehow it's become Cleveland's dominant style and wow is it awful.  Is this really what we want to look like?

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This is hilarious. Why would someone sit on the corner of a busy intersection?

Architects' clip art loves to sit at superfluous and impossible to maintain public spaces.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

They keep saying density but this is all setbacks and driveways and lawns.  The mixed-use aspect is insignificant but there's lots of text about walking trails and open plazas.  The parking lots are hidden, I do like that part.  But walkability in an urban context has nothing to do with tiny ornamental trails.  It's about not needing a car for daily living.  That means walking down the actual street with purpose because you have a nearby destination.  This kind of planning fails to get us there. 

 

We need more raw density than this to make a good business case for neighborhood business.  And we don't need any more brand new 1970s suburban tract housing.  Somehow it's become Cleveland's dominant style and wow is it awful.  Is this really what we want to look like?

 

I don't mind these lawns and driveways. I agree that the mixed use aspect needs to be larger but unfortunately retail is a four letter word these days. A small grocery subsidized by the rest of the development profits (such as the one that opened today at 25th and Detroit, but bigger) would be great. And a few neighborhood restaurants.

 

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This is hilarious. Why would someone sit on the corner of a busy intersection?

 

A busy intersection in the boonies, as depicted.  Welcome to the only "Development Strategy" whose goal is no development at all.

 

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This is hilarious. Why would someone sit on the corner of a busy intersection?

 

A busy intersection in the boonies, as depicted.  Welcome to the only "Development Strategy" whose goal is no development at all.

 

I don't mean to say we shouldn't be aspirational, but I think this is overly negative. It's an overpass. What do you want them to do? A twenty story residential tower built over the air rights of the RTA tracks with a Shake Shack on the ground floor? You have to start somewhere. Unfortunately our rail system was built on a freight rail corridor and it's inconvenient to get to. Nicer alternatives to this (like a cap) are very expensive.

 

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This is hilarious. Why would someone sit on the corner of a busy intersection?

 

A busy intersection in the boonies, as depicted.  Welcome to the only "Development Strategy" whose goal is no development at all.

 

I don't mean to say we shouldn't be aspirational, but I think this is overly negative. It's an overpass. What do you want them to do? A twenty story residential tower built over the air rights of the RTA tracks with a Shake Shack on the ground floor? You have to start somewhere. Unfortunately our rail system was built on a freight rail corridor and it's inconvenient to get to. Nicer alternatives to this (like a cap) are very expensive.

 

No, let it be what it is. Not every space everywhere is pedestrian friendly. And this one is clearly not. Why invest money in benches, hard and softscapes that will never be used and cause a maintenance issue?

Well, it is at a Rapid station so there is some pedestrian activity there now, including people waiting for the #10 bus. The numbers should increase with the development of the New Economy District which the city and the CDC are intent on happening. And, to me, the development of this area and the East 79th corridor are at least as exciting to me as any downtown project.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

  • 6 months later...

I detect movement. I was under the impression that Fairfax CDC was intent on building a 4-5 story apartment building at East 105th-Quebec Ave. as its first phase of Innovation Square. But these three demolitions are scattered all over the place and some are next to homes that apparently are still standing. Are these demos for new, single-family homes? It's difficult to tell from these what's coming next....

 

East Design Review Case Report

INNOVATION SQUARE PROJECT

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East Case #  EAST 2019-017

Address:2272 East 103rd Street

Company:Fairfax Renaissance Development Corp

Architect:A & D Contracting (Demolition)

Description:

Property demolished for new construction.

 

INNOVATION SQUARE PROJECT

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Project Information

East Case #  EAST 2019-016

Address:2271 East 101st Street

Company:Fairfax Renaissance Development Corp

Architect:A & D Contracting (Demolition)

Description:

Property demolished for new construction.

 

INNOVATION SQUARE PROJECT

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East Case #  EAST 2019-015

Address:2219 East 101st Street

Company:Fairfax Renaissance Development Corp

Architect:A & D Demolition

Description:

Property Demolition for new construction

 

These are the locations.....

 

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These Streetview photos all date from August 2014. The targeted house is the one in the middle of the photo.

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The targeted home is the one on the right. The home on the left is already gone.

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This is the northern-most house in this set, at the corner of E101st and Wain Ct.

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I really hope this development fans out from Karamu to East 105.  Karamu should be the the building block of this area.

20 hours ago, KJP said:

I detect movement. I was under the impression that Fairfax CDC was intent on building a 4-5 story apartment building at East 105th-Quebec Ave. as its first phase of Innovation Square. But these three demolitions are scattered all over the place and some are next to homes that apparently are still standing. Are these demos for new, single-family homes? It's difficult to tell from these what's coming next....

 

East Design Review Case Report

INNOVATION SQUARE PROJECT

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Project Information

East Case #  EAST 2019-017

Address:2272 East 103rd Street

Company:Fairfax Renaissance Development Corp

Architect:A & D Contracting (Demolition)

Description:

Property demolished for new construction.

 

INNOVATION SQUARE PROJECT

 Return to Case List | Start Over | Print Report (PDF format)

Project Information

East Case #  EAST 2019-016

Address:2271 East 101st Street

Company:Fairfax Renaissance Development Corp

Architect:A & D Contracting (Demolition)

Description:

Property demolished for new construction.

 

INNOVATION SQUARE PROJECT

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Project Information

East Case #  EAST 2019-015

Address:2219 East 101st Street

Company:Fairfax Renaissance Development Corp

Architect:A & D Demolition

Description:

Property Demolition for new construction

 

These are the locations.....

 

Innovation Square site 071717-2019 demos.jpg

 

These Streetview photos all date from August 2014. The targeted house is the one in the middle of the photo.

2271 East 101st Aug2014.JPG

 

The targeted home is the one on the right. The home on the left is already gone.

2272 East 103rd St-Aug2014.JPG

 

This is the northern-most house in this set, at the corner of E101st and Wain Ct.

2219 East 101st-Aug2014.JPG

 

When I look at the amount of existing empty space in the vicinity, I doubt these are being knocked down to build new houses there.   Probably unsalvageable interiors and possibly neighborhood (such as it is) nuisances.  

4 hours ago, E Rocc said:

 

When I look at the amount of existing empty space in the vicinity, I doubt these are being knocked down to build new houses there.   Probably unsalvageable interiors and possibly neighborhood (such as it is) nuisances.  

 

They are supposedly being knocked down for new housing. When the new is built remains to be seen. But the first new residential building is proposed to be built on East 105th, just north of the RTA station. Single-family homes are planned NW of it.

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

  • 3 weeks later...

Well here's a hopeful sign...I still think some of the housing being knockeddown could be salvaged for less than the cost of this new build, but I understand the need for new housing in a neighborhood that hasn't had it in almost 100 years. There's about 4-5 of these in this vicinity listed on Zillow. Knez may not have the most architecturally creative housing; but it is built densely and with detached garages, so I am not completely opposed. Just wish we could save more of the nice Victorians in Fairfax.

 

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/Cleveland-OH/33409660_zpid/24115_rid/41.507098,-81.607304,41.479164,-81.653438_rect/14_zm/

Glad to see the infill housing. I see there's several new-builds planned in that area. But I agree -- it would be great to see some of the Victorian housing stock saved. I'd do it, but I promised myself I'd stick to flipping to apartment-style condos only.

 

BTW while looking at the Zillow listings in that area, I had no idea there was a penthouse apartment atop the Tudor Arms Hotel. That's stunning....

 

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/10660-Carnegie-Ave-Cleveland-OH-44106/2097171608_zpid/

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I don't see a driveway...I actually like that but maybe I grew up and live in a neighborhood with on street parking. It can get annoying on holidays but I think on street parking adds more life to a street. 

On 4/26/2019 at 9:21 AM, KJP said:

 

BTW while looking at the Zillow listings in that area, I had no idea there was a penthouse apartment atop the Tudor Arms Hotel. That's stunning....

 

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/10660-Carnegie-Ave-Cleveland-OH-44106/2097171608_zpid/

 

Cleveland.com did a nice article (with pictures) on that penthouse in the Tudor Arms (DoubleTree) a while back:

 

https://articles.cleveland.com/architecture/index.ssf/2016/09/mrn_ltd_turns_gothic_tower_at.amp

When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?

  • 2 months later...

 

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I can't wait to see this area grow and thrive again. From what I've seen and heard of/from him so fair, I think Blaine is definitely on his way to being one of the better councilmen this city has seen in awhile. I like his focus on growth, without forgetting the people who are already there. Fairfax definitely has a chance for a full renaissance with the leadership from him and FRDC.

I'm just excited to have development near an underutilized redline station. The whole area along the redline between Tower City and University Circle are so disappointing. I wanna have a reason to stop there rather than always skipping past all of the stops.

  • 2 weeks later...

I was looking for this graphic I produced to post here. After weeks of occasionally searching, I finally found it. Don't know why it took me so long. Here are the publicly owned parcels in the Fairfax New Economy Neighborhood....

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

This would be located near the East 105th Red Line station, although one proposed building separates the first phase from the station. The proposed building next to the station needs to be about two to three times taller, with structured parking and ground-floor commercial uses, although it looks like the latter might be included.....

 

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LISALA PEERY | THURSDAY, AUGUST 08, 2019

It takes a village: Fairfax's efforts to attract families for generations to come

 

August Fluker moved to Fairfax 20 years ago from Cleveland Heights and has a vested interest in bringing businesses and families back to the area. His 17-year-old son was born in Fairfax and lives with him.

 

“I believe in strengthening the core of the city," says Fluker, a principal with City Architecture.

 

Fluker is doing just that by planning the architecture and land use for Innovation Square. It will consist of roughly 500 new units, including higher-density single apartments, lower-density single-family townhomes, and new single-family homes. (Current homeowners in the area will ideally be offered access to the resources to update their homes, too.)

Although most of the space is still in pre-development, Playwright Park is complete. Art murals, which residents helped paint during a community meeting on July 16, will be installed in the fall.

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

That’s.....a lot of demolition of existing housing, no? 

They may not demolish everything. Some of the better-conditioned homes may be kept.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

3 hours ago, KJP said:

They may not demolish everything. Some of the better-conditioned homes may be kept.

On the link to the Fairfax Renaissance project page it looks like they want to take everything out between 100 and 105. Not a lot of particularly ornate houses over there but there are some interesting Victorian styles and walk-up apartment buildings. I guess demolitions just kind of bum me out in general, especially when a lot of it is going to be replaced by parking lots.

 

Of course most of the houses are in horrible condition, but more demolitions on the near-ish east side is always kind of a bummer.

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Added comment about housing conditions

  • 2 months later...

video of Fairfax in the 50s....   have to say I had no idea...  my mother speaks to how nice the cold coast area was back then....

 

https://youtu.be/HIiPmULzVC4

10 hours ago, lockdog said:

video of Fairfax in the 50s....   have to say I had no idea...  my mother speaks to how nice the cold coast area was back then....

 

https://youtu.be/HIiPmULzVC4

Wow.  He mentioned the Pla-Mor/UPC.  That is old school.  Sad and tragic.

  • 1 month later...

heavy equipment in the new economy neighborhood area on opportunity corridor...  

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The structures in the background are to be demolished. I posted the agenda item for this demo from one of the city's dockets a month or two ago. They're clearing the canvas to start the neighborhood over again.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

  • 1 month later...

Some demolition is happening on E105, looks like it’s the beginning steps for Innovation Square.

 

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4 hours ago, NR said:

Some demolition is happening on E105, looks like it’s the begging steps for Innovation Square.

 

 

 

I thought we were past the begging steps and this was finally happening!;)

Didn’t @KJP hint that the mystery mega project would potentially be in this area?

14 minutes ago, marty15 said:

Didn’t @KJP hint that the mystery mega project would potentially be in this area?

 

But this demolition isn't for that. The demolition is anticipation of construction for the new residential structures.

 

If the megaproject ever happens, it is still a ways off.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

On 1/15/2020 at 5:55 PM, marty15 said:

Didn’t @KJP hint that the mystery mega project would potentially be in this area?

Don’t know what it could be specifically, but what company wouldn’t want to capitalize on establishing a presence in Cleveland?  A relatively inexpensive market with growing tech talent.

Here is a neat pic I stumbled across. I can't jump high enough to have taken it.

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That's a great "before" picture. Bookmark it.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

15 minutes ago, WhatUp said:

Here is a neat pic I stumbled across. I can't jump high enough to have taken it.

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Gonna borrow that for another thread, thanks!

Here is a high altitude aerial from 2009 with the Juvenile Justice center under construction. 

 

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Here is almost the same view from 2019. 

 

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  • 1 month later...

For some more information of the ongoing renovations, there is this interview on Ideastream from earlier this year:

 

Karamu's Second Act With CEO Tony Sias

Dennis Knowles - Jan. 20, 2020

Link: https://www.ideastream.org/news/karamus-second-act-with-ceo-tony-sias

 

"It wasn't long ago that the final curtain almost came down on Karamu House, the nation's oldest black theater, due to mounting debt, aging infrastructure and administrative challenges. Now entering 2020, the organization appears to be on more solid ground, thanks in part to a new strategic plan, increased community support and leadership."

These two structures, the old gas station and the still-habitable house behind it, are slated for demolition. This is across the street from the former Hot Sauce Williams, now Angie's Soul Food Cafe. So why are these structures being demolished? BTW, Property Acquisitions LLC is an affiliate of LRC Realty of Akron. They do a lot of corner retail but a few mixed-use developments: http://lrcrealty.com/about-us/

 

Euclid Corridor Design Review Case Report

 

7911 CARNEGIE AVE. DEMOLITION

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Euclid Corridor Case #  EC 2020-003

Address:7911 Carnegie Ave.

Company:Property Acquisitions LLC

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/brd/detailDR.php?ID=3433&CASE=EC 2020-003

 

2061 E 79TH STREET DEMOLITION

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Euclid Corridor Case #  EC 2020-004

Address:2061 E 79th Street

Company:Property Acquisitions LLC

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/brd/detailDR.php?ID=3434&CASE=EC 2020-004

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Finally some good demolition. That corner lot is one of the biggest eyesores over there, even a grass lot would be a step up imo. I do wonder though where the rug guy will set up now.

18 hours ago, tykaps said:

Permit was submitted today for new construction at 7911 Carnegie Ave. 

Not a lot of info given online, but piecing together info, it seems to be from the people who owned the now closed middle eastern grocery/hookah bar: Almanar Market on the westside. TBD if this is going to be a similar concept.

This location is by the new Dunkin Donuts and the new Angie's Soul Cafe.

 

@tykaps Was the application submitted by the current property owner, Joe Z LLC? Perhaps it was being submitted by LRC Realty through Joe Z LLC? I hope so, because the owners of Joe Z and the former Al-Manar Market were busted for food stamp fraud in 2016 and served several years in prison for it. I suspect LRC is buying this site and the deal hasn't closed yet.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

No specifics were given in the online copy of the permit so it's yet to be seen

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SATURDAY, MARCH 7, 2020

Cleveland Clinic, Fairfax seek homes, biz & opportunity

 

As more sections of the 3-mile, $330 million Opportunity Corridor Boulevard open, more stakeholders are pursuing real estate opportunities. That's especially true where the first two sections have opened, from East 93rd Street north to Chester Avenue. Work is moving forward on the third and final section from East 93rd west to East 55th Street, set to open in two years.

That has stakeholders like the Cleveland Clinic, Fairfax Renaissance Development Corp., property owners and real estate developers making their plays on and near the Opportunity Corridor. The area with the most activity is the stretch of East 105th Street, north of the recently expanded Red Line rail station at Quincy Avenue.

Cleveland Clinic has organized focus groups to determine what to develop and where -- and it's not the usual medical facilities that it's considering building, according to a source who spoke off the record.

 

Instead, the Clinic is looking at building neighborhood assets like a grocery store and possible housing on underutilized land it owns in the southeast part of its campus near East 105th and Cedar Avenue. The Cleveland Clinic did not dispute the source's information but would not provide details yet.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/03/cleveland-clinic-fairfax-seek-homes-biz.html

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

19 minutes ago, KJP said:

Innovation+Square-Phase1-August+Fluker-C

 

SATURDAY, MARCH 7, 2020

Cleveland Clinic, Fairfax seek homes, biz & opportunity

 

As more sections of the 3-mile, $330 million Opportunity Corridor Boulevard open, more stakeholders are pursuing real estate opportunities. That's especially true where the first two sections have opened, from East 93rd Street north to Chester Avenue. Work is moving forward on the third and final section from East 93rd west to East 55th Street, set to open in two years.

That has stakeholders like the Cleveland Clinic, Fairfax Renaissance Development Corp., property owners and real estate developers making their plays on and near the Opportunity Corridor. The area with the most activity is the stretch of East 105th Street, north of the recently expanded Red Line rail station at Quincy Avenue.

Cleveland Clinic has organized focus groups to determine what to develop and where -- and it's not the usual medical facilities that it's considering building, according to a source who spoke off the record.

 

Instead, the Clinic is looking at building neighborhood assets like a grocery store and possible housing on underutilized land it owns in the southeast part of its campus near East 105th and Cedar Avenue. The Cleveland Clinic did not dispute the source's information but would not provide details yet.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/03/cleveland-clinic-fairfax-seek-homes-biz.html

This could be transformative 

Depending upon specifics, it could be a nod toward the social determinants of health (SDOH). CCF is often criticized for the contrast between itself and the surrounding community.

This is all exciting news, especially if it means that the 800 pound gorilla that is the Cleveland Clinic is waking up to the neighborhood in its own backyard.  Back in the 2000's, CCF went on a building spree on and around Euclid Avenue that culminated in the Miller Pavillion, and the "front" lawn across the street.  It was a nice updating of facilities, but the remainder of the buildout was mostly parking garages stretching from Chester to Carneige.  In the 2010's, the hospital seemed to focus most of its attention on faraway places like Dubai, Las Vegas, and London (the main exception, of course, being the $500M Lerner College of Medicine that went up on the heart of its campus).  Now, for the 2020's, we have the 100K d.f. Cole Eye expansion and 400K s.f. new build of the Nuerologicial Institute on Euclid Ave to look forward to.  

 

This time around, it appears that the Clinic is looking beyond parking garages when it comes to spinoff projects.  Perhaps in an effort to mimic Metro Health, which is pursuing housing options near its own $1B campus, CCF is finally looking at building/rebuilding the surrounding neighborhood.  Maybe the Opportunity Corridor piqued their interest, too, because the 2004-06 building spree along Euclid happened to coincide with the construction of the Health Line.  In any case, the attendant residential and commercial (!) development that the Clinic (and others in the Farifax ecosystem) are talking about have the potential to be transformative.  There's long been talk about developers trying to bring office space to University Circle (e.g., the "tech ribbon" that was originally supposed to be part of Centric).  I suspect the prohibitive cost of land (and lack of parking) in that area has quashed many such efforts.  Nearby Fairfax presents none of those problems but has all the benefits of connectivity with a growing CCF campus and the rest of UC.

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