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2 hours ago, mu2010 said:

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2019/01/heinens-celebrates-90-years-in-the-grocery-business-how-the-grocer-thrives-in-cleveland-and-beyond.html

 

 

Heinen's should be safe, at least for now. I like Kroger, but losing Heinen's would be a horrid tragedy.

 

Marc's is a wild card. They are privately owned by one man, Marc Glassman, who has a not-very-nice reputation and he's got to be getting up there in age. Unlike Heinen's, they have high turnover and I can't imagine employees are super-loyal to the place or anything like that. They also have a lot of stores. But they are in a different segment of the market altogether from Kroger and Heinen's and Giant Eagle and Acme. When I was a kid we barely considered it a grocery store, more like a Big Lots or a Discount Drug Mart. They sold a lot of closeouts. (I grew up near the original store which was called Bernie Shulman's before Marc bought the chain from Bernie, and it was definitely not a grocery store in those days) They used to not even have meat. But they did spend money growing their meat and produce departments the past 10 or so years.

 

That's my read on Marc's, too, but a lot of their stores are actually in good locations.  The one in Fairlawn, for example, is right by a Giant Eagle.  You won't generally find them right by a Save-a-Lot, for example, or at least that's my impression.  They're not in locations that Kroger would be completely uninterested in.  So the question if we're doing the what-ifs with Kroger acquiring Marc's is really what Kroger would be willing to spend to upgrade those stores after the acquisition, and whether Glassman would be willing to sell at a price that would leave room in Kroger's budget to do that.

 

Secondarily, it would be whether the Marc's stores have space to do so and/or the options to lease more space at their locations to grow, if Kroger decides that upgrading to full-service locations would need more space than most Marc's locations have.  I haven't been to too many, but the one in Fairlawn is smaller than the Giant Eagle it's in the same shopping center with.  The one on Waterloo Road in south Akron, though, seems like it would have plenty of space to build out more if needed.  The only other one I've been to once was in the Parma area, years ago, and I don't remember it much at all.

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  • 11 months later...

Kroger unveils store of future in Greater Cincinnati: PHOTOS

By Steve Watkins  –  Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier

Oct 20, 2022

 

Kroger Co. unveiled its "store of the future" Thursday, testing the concept in Greater Cincinnati.

 

Downtown-based Kroger (NYSE: KR) launched the new store concept first at its Monroe store just off Ohio 63 on Heritage Green Drive about a week ago but made it official with a ribbon-cutting ceremony Thursday morning.

 

The changes involve the way customers check out. The new concept gives customers a variety of options that include a group of Kroger’s new high-tech modes of checkout as well as the traditional low-tech methods.

 

“We think it’s going to be game-changing,” Kroger spokeswoman Erin Rolfes told me. “What customers are going to see that’s very different from other stores is that front end where they check out.”

 

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If a proposed acquisition of Albertsons goes through, Kroger 2.0 would control 16% of market share and serve 85 million households. But the feds may not buy in. Here’s what it means for shoppers as well as the city.

On Oct. 14, Kroger announced plans to purchase rival grocer Albertsons, potentially upping its revenue to $200 billion and employing over 700,000. But some insiders aren’t convinced the deal will pass muster with regulators.

By Steve Watkins  –  Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier

Oct 21, 2022

 

Kroger’s ever-subdued Rodney McMullen calls the Cincinnati grocer’s $25 billion plan to buy rival Albertsons a “major milestone,” but that still might be one of the biggest understatements the CEO has made in his nine years at the helm.

 

It’s so much more. Having spent the past four years scaling its digital prowess and home delivery system to better compete with Amazon, Walmart and others, Kroger is back on familiar ground. If the agreement to merge with Boise, Idaho-based Albertsons goes through, Kroger will become the first true national grocer.

 

The acquisition, announced Oct. 14, is expected to close in early 2024. It combines the country’s two largest operators of traditional supermarkets and would make Kroger a behemoth that would likely top $200 billion in annual revenue, placing it among the nation’s largest companies. It would serve 85 million households and employ more than 700,000 people.

 

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If this deal passes do you think we could see the Kroger building get renovated or even a brand new headquarters? 

1 hour ago, Ucgrad2015 said:

If this deal passes do you think we could see the Kroger building get renovated or even a brand new headquarters? 

I would doubt that, but we may see more direct flights to Boise, Seattle and California.

 

It has been a while since I have been down there but how many floors in the Kroger Tower does Kroger actually use anyway? I remember a few floors were full of small law firms and such who wanted ease of access to the courthouse. 

They have a ton of office employees in Blue Ash I know of, especially since their IT is out there. Plus, beyond the c-suite, you would figure the bulk of the operational employees are located closer to the stores or distribution centers

 

IMO I think the big job gains are not going to be at Kroger corporate but with companies such as LPK, Neilsen, and other companies that work with clients to get product placement at Kroger stores. Companies like General Mills, Danone, Kraft etc will likely need to hire more people to work the Kroger accounts too.

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Maybe they will lease some space in the old Macys HQ? That seems more likely to me unless they are building out the residential the proposed there now


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30 minutes ago, SWOH said:

Maybe they will lease some space in the old Macys HQ? That seems more likely to me unless they are building out the residential the proposed there now


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This is highly unlikely. So many better options if they needed office space, including building-adding space in the 84.51 building.

4 hours ago, Brutus_buckeye said:

I would doubt that, but we may see more direct flights to Boise, Seattle and California.

 

It has been a while since I have been down there but how many floors in the Kroger Tower does Kroger actually use anyway? I remember a few floors were full of small law firms and such who wanted ease of access to the courthouse. 

They have a ton of office employees in Blue Ash I know of, especially since their IT is out there. Plus, beyond the c-suite, you would figure the bulk of the operational employees are located closer to the stores or distribution centers

 

IMO I think the big job gains are not going to be at Kroger corporate but with companies such as LPK, Neilsen, and other companies that work with clients to get product placement at Kroger stores. Companies like General Mills, Danone, Kraft etc will likely need to hire more people to work the Kroger accounts too.

Kroger has slowly pushed everyone out of the Kroger tower as leases came up. Last law office left a couple years ago. It is 100% Kroger in the building. They have 84.51 which was designed to convert parking deck floors to office space. They are 100% leased also in the 1015 Vine Street building as well. I think your right we will see third party vendors, and consultants bulk up staffing more than anything. Maybe a couple of additional flights at the airport. 

1 hour ago, 646empire said:


This is highly unlikely. So many better options if they needed office space, including building-adding space in the 84.51 building.

I thought they were in the process of converting the Macy's building into apartments

40 minutes ago, savadams13 said:

Kroger has slowly pushed everyone out of the Kroger tower as leases came up. Last law office left a couple years ago. It is 100% Kroger in the building. They have 84.51 which was designed to convert parking deck floors to office space. They are 100% leased also in the 1015 Vine Street building as well. I think your right we will see third party vendors, and consultants bulk up staffing more than anything. Maybe a couple of additional flights at the airport. 

Kind of like the Wal Mart effect, all the big consumer product companies have large outposts in Fayetteville Ark to be close to Wal-Mart's HQ. 

 

I am sure they already have outposts in cincinnati for the same reasons but they will likely need to expand and could create other opportunities to get more people here with those companies. 

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Kroger, Albertsons foot traffic shows it 'will rock the grocery category'

By Steve Watkins  –  Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier

Nov 22, 2022

 

Kroger Co.’s planned $25 billion acquisition of Albertsons Cos. “will rock the grocery category” if it’s approved, a new report says.

 

If completed, the deal will succeed in “further empowering Kroger and Albertsons to take on giants like Walmart and Amazon,” the report by location analytics and data provider Placer.ai said. “By combining their strengths and lowering costs, the deal would help each of the companies maximize their competitive advantages while offering them even greater reach.”

 

Downtown Cincinnati-based Kroger (NYSE: KR) would acquire Albertsons’ 2,273 stores, adding to Kroger’s 2,723 stores in a deal announced Oct. 14. The transaction would result in a merger of the nation’s two largest traditional supermarkets.

 

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On 9/3/2005 at 3:07 PM, The_Cincinnati_Kid said:

Kroger sizing up Albertson's

 

By Alexander Coolidge

Post staff reporter

 

The nation's second-largest supermarket chain is up for sale, but will the nation's largest - Cincinnati-based Kroger - be interested in buying it?

 

Industry analysts are skeptical that Kroger would be interested in buying all of Albertson's, the Boise, Idaho-based company, which announced Friday it was considering putting itself up for sale.

 

 

http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050903/BIZ/509030342/1001

 

Interesting:

https://www.wcpo.com/money/local-business-news/albertsons-deal-could-be-a-game-changer-for-krogers-retail-media-unit-analyst-says

 

 

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Kroger, Albertsons near deal to divest stores necessary for merger approval, Bloomberg reports

 

Kroger Co. and Albertsons Companies Inc. are close to a deal to divest stores in a transaction aimed at getting antitrust approval for the companies’ $24.6 merger, according to Bloomberg News.

 

The companies, which are the nation’s two largest operators of traditional supermarkets, are in talks with Keene, N.H.-based C&S Wholesale Grocers, Bloomberg reports. C&S has financial backing from Japanese investment firm Softbank Group Corp. to buy the stores.

 

A deal could be completed this week, according to Bloomberg, which cited unidentified people familiar with the matter. The exact number of stores to be sold wasn’t disclosed.

 

Officials from Kroger and C&S weren't immediately available for comment.

 

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Kroger agrees to $1.4 billion opioid settlement; reveals deal to sell 413 stores related to Albertsons megamerger

 

Kroger Co. released its second quarter earnings results Friday, Sept. 8, topping Wall Street's expectations. However, the hallmark of the results was the news that Kroger has reached a $1.4 billion opioid-related settlement and finalized a deal to sell more than 400 stores in connection to its megamerger with Albertsons Cos.

 

According to a news release, Kroger (NYSE: KR) has agreed in principle to pay up to $1.2 billion to states and subdivisions, alongside $36 million to Native American tribes, to settle any opioid claims against the Cincinnati giant. The payout will be spread over 11 years and are slated to begin in December 2023.

 

Kroger has faced several opioid-related legal battles in recent years, with the bulk of those cases stemming from whether the company's pharmacies put enough controls in place to limit the oversupply of the highly addictive medications. Most recently, the company spent $68 million to settle such as case in West Virginia.

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Here are some highlights of the agreement:

  • As part of the deal, Kroger will no longer use the QFC (located in the Pacific Northwest), Mariano's (located in the Chicago area) or Carrs (an Albertsons' subsidiary based in Alaska) brand names. Stores the company will retain that carry those names will be rebranded to Kroger.
  • In Arizona, California, Wyoming and Colorado, C&S will take on the Albertson's name. For Albertson's locations Kroger is keeping in those states, the stores will be renamed Kroger.
  • Some of the private label brands Kroger will no longer use include: Debi Lilly Design, Primo Taglio, Open Nature, ReadyMeals and Waterfront Bistro.
  • The deal could be expand to include as many as 237 additional stores if regulators require Kroger to sell off a greater number of locations in order to get the greenlight for its Albertsons deal.

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2023/09/08/kroger-opioid-settlement-albertsons-divestment.html

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I have been avoiding the "new" Corryville Kroger for the past 2~ years due to the store's descent into chaos.  Tonight I snuck in there, thinking it would be low-key on a Sunday night.  Wrong.  I was hit up for money twice during my ten minutes inside the store.  First, a guy pretending to be handicapped hit me up for money while riding a scooter around near the apples and bananas.  Five minutes later, a guy tapped me on the shoulder while I was pulling a carton of eggs out of the cooler.  I immediately checked my pocket to make sure he hadn't stolen my wallet.  Up by the cash registers, the lone mall cop was watching videos on his phone.  Out in the parking lot, some guy on an electric bicycle was casing cars. 

55 minutes ago, Lazarus said:

I have been avoiding the "new" Corryville Kroger for the past 2~ years due to the store's descent into chaos.  Tonight I snuck in there, thinking it would be low-key on a Sunday night.  Wrong.  I was hit up for money twice during my ten minutes inside the store.  First, a guy pretending to be handicapped hit me up for money while riding a scooter around near the apples and bananas.  Five minutes later, a guy tapped me on the shoulder while I was pulling a carton of eggs out of the cooler.  I immediately checked my pocket to make sure he hadn't stolen my wallet.  Up by the cash registers, the lone mall cop was watching videos on his phone.  Out in the parking lot, some guy on an electric bicycle was casing cars. 

Sounds just like how it was back in 2004/2005.

We don't have Kroger's in the Wash DC area; but we do have Harris Teeter, which I like and which Kroger bought a few years ago.  Is there any plan to merge the brands?

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8 hours ago, Dougal said:

We don't have Kroger's in the Wash DC area; but we do have Harris Teeter, which I like and which Kroger bought a few years ago.  Is there any plan to merge the brands?

 

Highly unlikely.  Unlike Macy's, Kroger actually keeps their local brand names in their respective markets.

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^ i think meijers is doing that strategy too now. the new fairfax market in cleveland by the clinic is a meijers.

10 hours ago, Mov2Ohio said:

Sounds just like how it was back in 2004/2005.

 

Well Short Vine and surrounding streets are much chiller now than they were in the 90s and 2000s.  The Kroger and adjacent Walgreen's attract every clown within a 5- mile radius. 

 

The new downtown Kroger isn't much better.  Meaning we're already back to the old pattern - bus riders shopping and loitering around the Cincinnati Kroger stores while every Downtown, OTR, and UC student with a car drives to Hyde Park or across the river into Newport.

 

 

 

 

 

 

1 minute ago, Lazarus said:

 

Well Short Vine and surrounding streets are much chiller now than they were in the 90s and 2000s.  The Kroger and adjacent Walgreen's attract every clown within a 5- mile radius. 

 

The new downtown Kroger isn't much better.  Meaning we're already back to the old pattern - bus riders shopping and loitering around the Cincinnati Kroger stores while every Downtown, OTR, and UC student with a car drives to Hyde Park or across the river into Newport.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Have not been to the new Corryville Kroger, but pretty much what did they expect. Especially, once they closed down the Walnut Hills Kroger, the riff-raff was going to naturally go to Corryville. 

The downtown one is similar. It is still small and does not carry as wide of a variety as the other Krogers do. The big complaint of the old OTR one was the lack of items it carried. While the new one is better, it is still not the same variety as Newport or Hyde Park. 

28 minutes ago, Brutus_buckeye said:

The downtown one is similar. It is still small and does not carry as wide of a variety as the other Krogers do. The big complaint of the old OTR one was the lack of items it carried. While the new one is better, it is still not the same variety as Newport or Hyde Park. 


The OTR store was very small and very very old. Of course the downtown location is never going to have the selection of a Newport or Hype Park (stores 5x plus larger that sit in shopping centers) you’re also never going to build a store that big in a central business district. Downtown stores in general are about providing the basics along with a bit of high end items and lots of grab and go, Cincinnati has a 2nd floor food court too which is a very nice touch. I would like to remind folks there are a lot of cities bigger and smaller that can only dream of having a modern 2 floor full service grocery store in its business district, and Cincinnati wouldn’t have one either if Kroger HQ wasn’t here. 

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40 minutes ago, Lazarus said:

bus riders shopping and loitering around the Cincinnati Kroger stores while every Downtown, OTR, and UC student with a car drives to Hyde Park or across the river into Newport.

 


This is also false there is an extremely diverse clientele who shop at the downtown store. Especially those that live and work downtown. Bus riders? Are “bus riders” not welcome to shop at these stores? 

28 minutes ago, 646empire said:


The OTR store was very small and very very old. Of course the downtown location is never going to have the selection of a Newport or Hype Park (stores 5x plus larger that sit in shopping centers) you’re also never going to build a store that big in a central business district. Downtown stores in general are about providing the basics along with a bit of high end items and lots of grab and go, Cincinnati has a 2nd floor food court too which is a very nice touch. I would like to remind folks there are a lot of cities bigger and smaller that can only dream of having a modern 2 floor full service grocery store in its business district, and Cincinnati wouldn’t have one either if Kroger HQ wasn’t here. 

I do enjoy the downtown store. We stop there to eat on occasion when going to Reds or FC games. I really have not shopped there and from what I see it does have a bit more on the produce side than the old OTR store so it is a great amenity to have in town.

41 minutes ago, 646empire said:


This is also false there is an extremely diverse clientele who shop at the downtown store.

 

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44 minutes ago, Brutus_buckeye said:

I do enjoy the downtown store. We stop there to eat on occasion when going to Reds or FC games. I really have not shopped there and from what I see it does have a bit more on the produce side than the old OTR store so it is a great amenity to have in town.


I haven’t eaten upstairs yet, just grab small stuff on the grocery side once a week or so. The downtown Kroger in combination with Findlay Market in OTR really is super.

8 minutes ago, 646empire said:


I haven’t eaten upstairs yet, just grab small stuff on the grocery side once a week or so. The downtown Kroger in combination with Findlay Market in OTR really is super.

upstairs is nice but could be better. It has about 4 food vendors at any given time with room for about 7 or 8. The one thing is that sometimes the hours are inconsistent. Kroger owns 2 of them I believe so they at least make sure that there is adequate service there. THere is a bar on the second floor which is nice and caters to the after work/FC crowd and I assume people who live in the apartments. It appears to do a decent lunch business during the week with everything going on at the Courthouse. I think it could do better but I think there needs to be more residents, especially in the Court Street corridor and just South of Court Street.

 

The thing I like best about it is that it is a place where you can take kids that is not high end or fast food and they have space to run around.

  • 3 weeks later...

This merger of Kroger buying Albertsons is so hard to find info about. In Chicago, Kroger owns Marianos (former Dominicks) and Albertsons owns Jewel Osco. Apparently Kroger will sell Marianos to Piggly Wiggly for anti trust reasons. That kinda sucks, I like Marianos and the Kroger delivery service is excellent.

 

Jewel Osco stores, at least in the city, are pretty beat down, I hope Kroger fixes them up

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  • 3 weeks later...

Kroger sets wheels in motion for FTC antitrust approval process with Albertsons deal notification

 

Kroger Co. has thrown the ball into federal regulators’ court by telling them it has met requirements to abide by antitrust laws in its planned $24.6 billion acquisition of Albertsons Cos. Inc.

 

The move means the Federal Trade Commission should make a decision on the transaction by the middle of December.

 

Downtown Cincinnati-based Kroger (NYSE: KR), the nation’s largest operator of traditional supermarkets, has told the Federal Trade Commission it has “certified substantial compliance with the second request issued by the FTC,” CEO Rodney McMullen said Thursday, Nov. 30, during a conference call to discuss third-quarter earnings.

 

That essentially means Kroger and Boise, Idaho-based Albertsons (NYSE: ACI), the nation’s second-largest operator of traditional supermarkets, believe they have met the FTC’s requirements regarding antitrust laws involving the transaction. The second request references the FTC's responses to Kroger and Albertsons after their initial plans to complete the transaction were filed.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2023/12/01/kroger-albertsons-ftc-notification-antitrust.html

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44 minutes ago, Lazarus said:

Cashier retires after 43 years...I'd be interested in knowing what her union retirement benefits look like:

https://www.wlwt.com/article/kroger-loveland-cashier-jennifer-tudor/46001801

She received a brass Timex watch, a Candygram and a big thank you for all the union dues she had paid over the last 43 years (and the cost of the Timex watch and Candygram will be deducted from her final paycheck to go to the union dues spent on the gift).

37 minutes ago, Brutus_buckeye said:

She received a brass Timex watch, a Candygram and a big thank you for all the union dues she had paid over the last 43 years (and the cost of the Timex watch and Candygram will be deducted from her final paycheck to go to the union dues spent on the gift).

 

The union's website doesn't appear to describe how the pension or 401k works, only that you get a discount on movie tickets, or something:

https://www.ufcw.org/members/retirees/

 

 

 

 

 

 

22 hours ago, Lazarus said:

 

The union's website doesn't appear to describe how the pension or 401k works, only that you get a discount on movie tickets, or something:

https://www.ufcw.org/members/retirees/

 

I think if you show your Union card, you also get a free jelly donut with the purchase of a large coffee at Dunkin too, lol

 

 

 

 

 

  • 2 weeks later...

Kroger changes work-from-home policy, bringing thousands of downtown workers back to office more often

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By Steve Watkins – Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier

Dec 11, 2023

 

Kroger is changing its work-from-home policy to bring thousands of people back to its downtown Cincinnati offices and other locations more frequently.

 

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Good for Court street restaurants? I'm sure many employees are upset about it, but the cynic in me says its because of the Albertsons merger and they wouldn't mind if a bunch of people quit so they could avoid the optics of layoffs

18 minutes ago, ucgrady said:

Good for Court street restaurants? I'm sure many employees are upset about it, but the cynic in me says its because of the Albertsons merger and they wouldn't mind if a bunch of people quit so they could avoid the optics of layoffs

I think it depends where they are quitting from. I do not think they would be too happy if many people in the Harris Teeter division left for example. This was a company wide announcement and did not just affect the corporate HQ.

36 minutes ago, Brutus_buckeye said:

I think it depends where they are quitting from. I do not think they would be too happy if many people in the Harris Teeter division left for example. This was a company wide announcement and did not just affect the corporate HQ.

 

When a corp flips off its employees like this, the people it least wants to quit are the ones who start looking.   

32 minutes ago, Brutus_buckeye said:

I think it depends where they are quitting from. I do not think they would be too happy if many people in the Harris Teeter division left for example. This was a company wide announcement and did not just affect the corporate HQ.


I seriously doubt they are going to see many people quit over this at HQ or any other high level company offices. These jobs especially at Cincy HQ are white collar generally good paying jobs you just don’t up and quit because you have to come into the office lol. Look around and you will see these positions are not readily available anymore the job hopping trend is definitely slowing to a crawl. Also Kroger is kinda on the tail end of this trend, many of the corporate giants have already done this.

5 minutes ago, E Rocc said:

When a corp flips off its employees like this


They are flipping off employees by having them return to the office? Really? My gosh what has the world come to. 

The entitlement from some people with wfh now is absolutely ridiculous . 

3 minutes ago, Cincy513 said:

The entitlement from some people with wfh now is absolutely ridiculous . 

 

People will actually have to do stuff instead of argue with strangers all day on internet forums. 

 

42 minutes ago, 646empire said:


I seriously doubt they are going to see many people quit over this at HQ or any other high level company offices. These jobs especially at Cincy HQ are white collar generally good paying jobs you just don’t up and quit because you have to come into the office lol. Look around and you will see these positions are not readily available anymore the job hopping trend is definitely slowing to a crawl. Also Kroger is kinda on the tail end of this trend, many of the corporate giants have already done this.

 

Yeah people need to be careful. It's not like blue-collar jobs where you can quit as many as you want yet still have another one in an hour.

1 hour ago, 646empire said:


I seriously doubt they are going to see many people quit over this at HQ or any other high level company offices. These jobs especially at Cincy HQ are white collar generally good paying jobs you just don’t up and quit because you have to come into the office lol. Look around and you will see these positions are not readily available anymore the job hopping trend is definitely slowing to a crawl. Also Kroger is kinda on the tail end of this trend, many of the corporate giants have already done this.

I dont think people will quit over this, or at least quit en masse. It will lead to some lower morale for some employees for a while but those employees are typically not the top performers anyhow. The best employees will adapt and succeed no matter what the environment.

30 minutes ago, Brutus_buckeye said:

I dont think people will quit over this, or at least quit en masse. It will lead to some lower morale for some employees for a while but those employees are typically not the top performers anyhow. The best employees will adapt and succeed no matter what the environment.

 

The top people at any company hate/fear going on vacation, let alone not physically being at the office.  The WFH people are all Gen Z's equivalent of Parrotheads. 

58 minutes ago, GCrites said:

 

Yeah people need to be careful. It's not like blue-collar jobs where you can quit as many as you want yet still have another one in an hour.


Exactly and a lot of companies aren’t even re-hiring those vacated good paying HQ roles. Companies are starting to eliminate positions after someone quits.

7 minutes ago, Lazarus said:

The top people at any company hate/fear going on vacation, let alone not physically being at the office. 


It’s funny you say that…. I do sometimes feel uneasy when I take vacations and such lol

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21 minutes ago, 646empire said:


It’s funny you say that…. I do sometimes feel uneasy when I take vacations and such lol

 

My dad didn't take more than 5 vacation days per year until he was about 50.  I didn't understand why he didn't take his full two weeks until I was an adult and saw companies promote people while their competitor was in Florida. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3 hours ago, 646empire said:


Exactly and a lot of companies aren’t even re-hiring those vacated good paying HQ roles. Companies are starting to eliminate positions after someone quits.

 

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