Posted November 9, 200816 yr Rather than decide what to call this neighborhood, I'll just say I took some photos around E.40th and Superior after attending Mass at Immaculate Conception today. Snuck a couple interior shots after the service, sorry about the blur: Some ugly public school: Density: St. Clair: Cleveland's narrowest lounge? E. 40th: St. Paul's Croatian Catholic Church: (and lots of power lines :() North Presbyterian:
November 9, 200816 yr very neat! i hate it when awesome churches are blocked by tons of power lines! and what is up with all the hideous 1960s/70s public schools? they're everywhere! blech!
November 10, 200816 yr Well, I mean there looks to be no charm in the neighborhood. With the exception of the churches, there is nothing really attractive about it either. I always want to see more Cleveland hoods, because I usually picture Cleveland as looking just like this neighborhood, and I want to be proven wrong (which is why I loved the threads on Shaker Square, Ohio City, and Little Italy).
November 10, 200816 yr Well, I mean there looks to be no charm in the neighborhood. With the exception of the churches, there is nothing really attractive about it either. I always want to see more Cleveland hoods, because I usually picture Cleveland as looking just like this neighborhood, and I want to be proven wrong (which is why I loved the threads on Shaker Square, Ohio City, and Little Italy). Its a warehouse neighborhood and he didn't take any pictures of the restaurants
November 10, 200816 yr Compared with other old Cleveland hoods, this area has particularly low end housing. It's not really representative. Some nearby is of the New Orleans shotgun shack variety. There are large industrial buildings scattered all through. It must have been loud and smelly when all that stuff was open, which may explain the housing stock and may explain where zoning came from. I have high hopes for this area though. It's the original east end of town, where the streets still follow downtown's spiderweb pattern. It's right by the lake too, and anything of any height here would have amazing views. Many of the warehouses are getting residential and office conversions. Asian businesses are actually coming in from the suburbs.
November 10, 200816 yr My Slovenian grandma used to live around here when she first moved to the states. She calls it 'the garbage.' My aunt used to play in the dirt, with dirt.
November 10, 200816 yr Hi all, I grew up on E 45th st. between Superior and Payne Ave. My sister still lives in the house. My two sisters, brother and I went to The Immaculate Conception school. The public school is Case Elementary. East 40th use to be called Case St way back when. All of us went there for Kindergarden. A number of the houses in the area are now owned by the Asian community. Thanks for posting pictures of my old parish and neighborhood. Warm nuzzles and bear hugz to all. Jim S.
November 10, 200816 yr Hi all, I grew up on E 45th st. between Superior and Payne Ave. My sister still lives in the house. My two sisters, brother and I went to The Immaculate Conception school. The public school is Case Elementary. East 40th use to be called Case St way back when. All of us went there for Kindergarden. A number of the houses in the area are now owned by the Asian community. Thanks for posting pictures of my old parish and neighborhood. Warm nuzzles and bear hugz to all. Jim S. Now you live on the darkside Westside.
November 10, 200816 yr And what is up with all the hideous 1960s/70s public schools? they're everywhere! blech! Maybe it was the Democratic control during the 1960's. Unfortunately that control took place during a down time for architecture and urban design. On another note, I love that first church pictured here.
November 11, 200816 yr Well, that was the most useless string of posts EVER. Anyways... I don't understand why edale is picking on this neighborhood in particular... sure... it's nothing special.. but it's those "nothing special" neighborhoods that make up the bulk of most cities... these "bland" neighborhoods have been home to hard-working Americans for generations... they may not fit your particular aesthetic... but to someone out there... it's "home". I appreciate seeing neighborhoods like this... beyond the usual "star" neighborhoods like Ohio City or Mt. Adams or German Village.
November 11, 200816 yr Well, that was the most useless string of posts EVER. Anyways... I don't understand why edale is picking on this neighborhood in particular... sure... it's nothing special.. but it's those "nothing special" neighborhoods that make up the bulk of most cities... these "bland" neighborhoods have been home to hard-working Americans for generations... they may not fit your particular aesthetic... but to someone out there... it's "home". I appreciate seeing neighborhoods like this... beyond the usual "star" neighborhoods like Ohio City or Mt. Adams or German Village. I was just saying that I think this neighborhood looks kind of ugly, that's all. Sure it's home for people, but I just don't find it attractive. In general, I'm not a huge fan of the stand alone houses made of mostly siding. Also, the factories look abandoned, and there are a few surface lots. Not really sure what there is to like about the neighborhood, aside from personal attachment or the beautiful churches. Also, because you don't see that many Cleveland neighborhoods here, I was hoping to see something cool and different, but this wasn't it.
November 11, 200816 yr Maybe it was the Democratic control during the 1960's :wtf: ...what... :wtf: Democrats tend to spend more on domestic issues. I didn't do any research, but an increase in funding for school building under Democratic regimes would seem to be a reasonable assumption. During that same period architecture went to the crapper. That's my theory for the proliferation of 60's and 70's style school buildings.
November 11, 200816 yr Thanks! "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 11, 200816 yr Nice photos. I know it's not the happening neighborhood in Cleveland, but people do live there, and it's good that you shot some pics down there. It is what it is, a poorer working class / ethnic neighborhood.
November 11, 200816 yr Thanks to all who commented. I love these old industrial and immigrant neighborhoods - and they're underrepresented on the board. I think this is a good example - lots of worker/peasant class housing but in decent to good condition, and few vacant properties. Tyler Village is just to the west, along with Asiatown, so there is reason to hope for some improvements/investment spreading eastward toward this area. There are plenty of old industrial buildings and warehouses awaiting reuse. Further east of 55th along Superior is a significantly worse neighborhood with lots of abandoned properties - not sure I'd feel comfortably shooting a photo thread there (Maybe some Sunday morning - tends to feel safer then - I could hang with the churchgoers)
November 11, 200816 yr The area east of 55th is scarier at night, but it has a lot more going for it architecturally. The St. Clair commercial strip doesn't really begin until 55th and it may be the longest and densest one left. The housing there is nicer too, but much worse for wear. An older friend of mine grew up there when when it was peaking and said it was absolute paradise. He said the part of St. Clair west of 55th (in these photos) had always been Chinese and German. 55th to about 74th was Slovenian, and from there to Glenville it was Polish. Kids caught on the wrong side got whipped. South of Superior nobody went. And he still thought it was paradise. Back to Goodrich/Kirtland et al., it seems like there are still dozens of those old warehouses to be converted, and momentum is building to get them done. Asian development continues, although the highlight so far is a suburban plaza. It's probably too diverse and spread out to ever be a postcard Chinatown. But the residential streets are well kept, it has tons of great restaraunts, it has an odd unique feel, and it's right next to downtown.
November 11, 200816 yr From MTS "Now you live on the darkside Westside." Not so much the darkside but a new side for me and partners. :-D After 37 years in Lake County it's great being back in the city. :clap: As for the new Case school, the old one would have cost as much to repair as it it did to build a new one, plus it was loaded with asbestos. Warm hugz to all. Jim S.
November 11, 200816 yr From MTS "Now you live on the darkside Westside." Not so much the darkside but a new side for me and partners. ;D After 37 years in Lake County it's great being back in the city. :clap: OK.. I'll let you slide and a big hug right back at'cha! ;D
November 11, 200816 yr Thank you MTS. I likes getting hugz as well as giving them. :angel: I bet you do sugar! >:D
November 19, 200816 yr Rather than decide what to call this neighborhood, I'll just say I took some photos around E.40th and Superior after attending Mass at Immaculate Conception today. The neighborhood photographed is St. Clair Superior. Although some may not like the architecture of the homes, this area is one of Cleveland's most diverse, home to a growing Asian community (Asiatown - where development is really starting to take over...such as Asian Town Center and Tyler Village), still home to some of the Eastern Europeans who built the Slovenian National Home (a beautiful gem on St. Clair Ave), a growing Ethiopian population (and Empress Taytu restaurant), a small Latino community and large African American community. This diversity makes the area very interesting, as well as its location on the lakefront, industrial area along the lake (alive and well, with revived interest due to the port's move to East 55th), and growing arts community in the numerous warehouse lofts in the East 20's, 30's and 40's. Warning...shameless CDC plug here...check out these websites for more info: www.stclairsuperior.org www.asiatowncleveland.org
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