^I took my 5-yr old son last weekend and he loved it. The energy created by the people waiting in lines was cool.

^ Exactly. Did I see you there? I was there on Sunday. It is nice to see children downtown!

^I took my 5-yr old son last weekend and he loved it. The energy created by the people waiting in lines was cool.

 

Off topic alert:  I can't believe your kid is 5 and you have a second!  I feel like you announced you and your wife were expecting your first yesterday.  Wow does time fly here on UO.

Does Forest City not see the advantage of getting an extra 1,500 people into their mall over a weekend, spending money on food, retail, etc?  Seems like a no brainer to keep this thing open every weekend.

well we tried to go. Yesterday I went hoping to get tickets for today, but they only sell them the day of. They started selling at 11:45am today-and that is when we arrived. HUGE line, I am sure it will sell out before the end of the line is served. I will vent one final time about this-people in Cleveland are excited to come downtown, and even get in line for something. SO then we end a great thing right in the middle of summer?? And no nothing was open except Hardrock.

We were really hoping to do this before leave the Cleve but c'est la vie.

 

^You're leaving Cleveland?

^You're leaving Cleveland?

Yes. San Diego....still bumming we won't make it to the deck. that was on our short list of things to do before leaving.

Many are freaking out. Please remain calm. there are many suggestions that will be shared on how to improve a possible regularly functioning event of this.

 

Also, I agree.. More places need to remain open, because the last hour is usually a dead hour...and if you remain open until only 5, then your dwindling hour will be between 4 and 5... If you remain open until 8, then it will be between 7 and 8..  In other words, if more places remain open longer, then the customers who want to come at that hour will figure it out...and hence your slower hour will eventually keep getting pushed forward.

 

However, since for so long and now, we have many who operate places and do not get this concept, they close too early and live by the suburban model/mindset that still assumes no one wants to be downtown, or is coming downtown. I will mention that The Flaming Ice Cube will be open until 8:00 PM now...so this offers a great place to eat at least during the week for now, that does not force you to go to 4th (not that it is bad)..and it has a great view of the S.E. quadrant of the square. I don't want/expect all 24/7 either because that produces a sick population of sleep deprivation disease (worse than lack of food... and worse in places like N.Y.) among other potential issues.... But geez.. Yes, more places need to remain open until 8-ish... or so, especially family oriented attractions, stores, etc.. Sure, they may not be stormed with business all at once, but when those who want to go at that time begin to discover it and places let it be known, then it can be a success.

 

Write to businesses/attractions with your pledge of support and why they should remain open longer and perhaps it might illicit some mind opening and ideas for them to take on board.

for a while a few years ago we got a on a kick of trying to support any tower city area biz that dared open on Sunday. One afternoon/evening we were in (an unnamed place) and saw 4 people come in (yippee, people!) But they turned out to be undercover deputies. They arrested the only other customer in the place on an outstanding warrant. It seemed too much like work for me so we threw in the towel on this idea.  Needless to say the waitress felt more dreary then we did since she had only just delivered groaning plates of food (you know she probably had to pay for that.)

^ Actually an amusing story.. But sad, really. I don't know what to do other than to promote the idea of customer demand via feedback. If more do that, then support the places like you do...we'd stand a good chance of change.  Hey.. Pho in Asiatown is open later nights...even on weekends! For what its worth, even a city like Sydney, Australia... grand as it is...has much close at 5 and 6... Just the clubbie and trendy areas open a lot later... 

 

Btw...someone posted a nice video... Anyone here do this? Nothing is like being there, though!

 

Looks like the Observation Deck will be open again on Sept 11:

 

http://downtowncleveland.org/blog/index.php/2010/08/tower-city-street-festival/

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Terminal Tower Observation Deck now open weekends during September and October

Published: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 9:57 PM   

Pat Galbincea, The Plain Dealer

 

 

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- You have another chance to see Cleveland from the top of Terminal Tower.

 

Beginning Saturday and continuing through Oct. 31, the renovated Terminal Tower Observation Deck will be open noon to 5 p.m. Saturdays and noon to 4 p.m. Sundays.

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2010/08/terminal_tower_observation_dec.html

 

 

To buy tickets online: http://terminaltowerodeck.eventbrite.com/

Interesting news:

 

http://morningjournal.com/articles/2010/10/03/entertainment/mj3401207.txt

 

And the observation deck will be reopened again during the holiday season so folks can view the Christmas lights from aloft.

 

Destroyed 1000 buildings?????

^Yep - mind you that's referring to the entire scope of the project, not just the Terminal Tower. Everything from Canal Road to Superior, and between Ontario and West 6th which includes the Terminal Tower, MK Ferguson Plaza, Landmark Office Towers, Higbee Building, and of course the Union Terminal. Plus there was the realignment of railways, streets, etc.

 

Here are a few shots from CSU's clevelandmemory.org:

 

Canal Road near West 3rd (when West 3rd used to descend to the Cuyahoga):

 

Champlain Ave. I believe this is now where Skylight Office Towers and the Ritz Carlton are located:

 

Champlain Ave. at Ontario - the Higbee Building now stands here:

Thanks mayday! Why the hell would they approve the destrucrion of 1000 buildings though? And roads and other things. Doesn't seem to make much sense

Urban renewal.  That was the poor part of town, mostly immigrants.  The Van Swerigens were promising a new, cosmopolitan mixed use district with one of the largest towers in the world, modern hotels, retail, and offices.  Not to mention a badly needed union terminal to make passenger train transportation more efficient.

 

That said, it would be cool to explore that old neighborhood.

Walking the down back then would be such an amazing experience. America has changed far to much to ever return to the way cities where back then

I'd take one TT over 1,000 mediocre buildings all day, every day.

Just wondering if anyone knows when the observation deck will be open again or if it still is open?

 

i dont think its open now -- it was only open on selected days from thanksgiving to new years. hopefully it will be opened on a more regular basis this year.

 

 

Walking the down back then would be such an amazing experience.

 

why stop there? you could have continued your stroll thru an intact warehouse district to the tt's predecessor, the 2nd union depot on the lakefront, once the largest building in the world!

 

 

 

^Yep - mind you that's referring to the entire scope of the project, not just the Terminal Tower. Everything from Canal Road to Superior, and between Ontario and West 6th which includes the Terminal Tower, MK Ferguson Plaza, Landmark Office Towers, Higbee Building, and of course the Union Terminal. Plus there was the realignment of railways, streets, etc.

 

Here are a few shots from CSU's clevelandmemory.org:

 

Canal Road near West 3rd (when West 3rd used to descend to the Cuyahoga):

 

Champlain Ave. I believe this is now where Skylight Office Towers and the Ritz Carlton are located:

 

Champlain Ave. at Ontario - the Higbee Building now stands here:

 

Actually, the demolitions of 1,000 buildings also includes the entire 17-mile Cleveland Union Terminal right of way for passenger trains and rapid transit, from Linndale on the west side to Collinwood on the east side. It includes rail corridors widened in some place to up to 10 tracks wide (especially from East 55th east to Superior in East Cleveland), and totally new rail right of that was six tracks wide (although only a max of four were built) from Monroe Cemetery on the south side of Ohio City to the Northern Ohio Food Terminal (now the downtown US Post Office complex).

 

The entire Cleveland Union Terminals complex, including the railroad rights of way, totaled $1.6 billion in today's dollars -- all privately financed. The next largest railway station complex in U.S. history? It has yet to be built, but work as just started -- the new $1.8 billion Transbay Terminal in San Francisco.

 

If you want to continue to discuss the construction of the Cleveland Union Terminal and its afterthought tower, it would probably be better to discuss it at:

 

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,11674.0.html

Thanks for the link. That conversation was back from october though lol in case you didn't see that!

Nope. It needed to be answered anyway.

Do they ever do private tours?

Terminal Tower observation deck reopens.

 

https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/terminal-tower-observation-deck-reopens-to-the-public-for-first-time-since-shutting-down-before-pandemic

36 minutes ago, skiwest said:

Terminal Tower observation deck reopens.

 

https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/terminal-tower-observation-deck-reopens-to-the-public-for-first-time-since-shutting-down-before-pandemic

Do they have good water pressure up there?

14 minutes ago, ryanfrazier said:

Do they have good water pressure up there?

They have someone working on the water leak now.