Posted November 14, 200816 yr So, how is the new lifestyle center(s) in your region doing? Personally, I always wonder who actually spends money at these places. The only thing they are good for ia a few decent restraunts and stores. The rest, in my opinion, is just a bunch of mall crap that I would rather see IN A MALL, because I would rather not freeze my butt off this winter trying to do Christmas shopping while walking through rain and snow to get from store to store. However, I may be wrong. I know that Dayton's lifestyle center, The Greene, has some cool, locally-owned shops. Your Thoughts?
November 14, 200816 yr does cincinnati have a lifestyle center? If you count Rookwood then I suppose Cincinnati does. Once the rest of Rookwood is developed, it could definitely be considered a lifestyle center as the concept is usually meant to be mixed use commercial and upscale retail. Deerfield Town Center and Crestview Hills are considered lifestyle centers.
November 14, 200816 yr Crocker park is nice But this is awfully subjective, no? Nice compared to what? and yes it is "subjective". People, MTS does not approve of spending money at "lifestyle centers"! Stay away...stay very, very far away.
November 14, 200816 yr Cincinnati has Downtown which is finally starting to see life again. Who needs rookwood?
November 14, 200816 yr Crocker park is nice But this is awfully subjective, no? Nice compared to what? and yes it is "subjective". People, MTS does not approve of spending money at "lifestyle centers"! Stay away...stay very, very far away. Where else are you going to shop in Cleveland?
November 14, 200816 yr Crocker park is nice But this is awfully subjective, no? Nice compared to what? and yes it is "subjective". People, MTS does not approve of spending money at "lifestyle centers"! Stay away...stay very, very far away. Where else are you going to shop in Cleveland? Are you serious or being snarky?
November 15, 200816 yr Columbus has the best downtown shopping of the 3Cs. It's called the Short North :-P Take 2 Apparel 668 N. High Street, (614) 299-9820 Resale boutique, name-brand clothing click: www.take2apparel.com A Touch of Earth 59 Spruce Street, (614) 224-7624 Coffee, Spices, etc. Yankee Trader Everything for Every Occasion! 463 North High Street, 228-1322 Elements of Art 507 N. High Street, (614) 324-9030 European contemporary fine art Columbus Children's Theatre Creative drama, classes grades K-8 512 North Park Street, 224-6672 Terra Gallery 8 East Poplar, (614) 228-4188 Fine art gallery, Originals by emerging and established contemporary artists Max The Salon Facials, massage, body-waxing, hair and nail care 640 North High Street 418-5350 Loot Cutting-edge home accesories and gifts 641 North High Street, #105, (614) 221-5668 Kathryn Gallery 642 North High Street, (614) 222-6801 American and European original and limited edition paintings click: www.kathryngallery.com UrbanOffice Furnishings 641 North High Street, #106, (614) 221-4780 Modern desk, seating, storage for home and office click: www.urbanofficefurnishings.com Little Shop of Shoes 644 N. High Street, (614) 484-SHOE (7463) Chic & Unique footware, bags Europia Gourmet Foods Carry-Out Fine wine, beer, cigars and gourmet food 672 North High Street, 460-3000 Cookware Sorcerer Cullinary Equipment For The Professional and Home Chef 688 North High Street, (614) 228-8678 Global Gallery Non-profit store Gifts from around the world, click: http://www.glblgllry.com 682 North High Street, (614) 621-1744 Studios On High Cooperative Gallery/Studio Offering Diverse Art By Central Ohio Arti click: www.studiosonhigh.com 684 North High Street, (614) 461-6487 An Open Book, books, cards, music and videos 685 North High Street, (614) 221-6339 Alexander's Fine Jewlery and Watches 689 North High Street, 228-2878 Sherrie's Galleries Fine Jewelry and Pottery 694 North High Street, (614) 298-8580 click: www.sherriegallerie.com Paul Robinett 7 Buttles Avenue, (614) 221-7005 click: www.paulrobinett.com Candles poured and shipped worldwide Luxe de Vie Scents 720 North High Street, (614) 421-0589 Art + Home 745 N. 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High Street, (614) 291-7450 Mondeys Retreat 1202 North High Street, 294-9511 Newstand/bookstore South Campus Gateway 1590 North High Street, (614) 247-5940 Shopping, restaurants, movie theater Martini Italian Bistro North Market Blues Station Char-Bar Barley's Brewing Co Micro-brewery, Light Fare Japanese Steak House Japanese, Cooked, At your table Brother's Bar and Grill Spice Bar & Restaurant Nightclub Bar Louie Sugar Bar Lounge, dance club Hyde Park Steakhouse Fine Dining, Steaks Bluefish Seafood MoJoe Lounge and Cup o' Joe Marcella's Restorante,Pizzeria And Wine Bar Starbucks Coffee Burgundy Room Great wine and Tapas Lemongrass Eleni Christina Bakery Happy Greek Short North Tavern A Neighborhood Institution Betty's Tasi Breakfast, lunch, dinner Casual and fine food Upscale, hip, casual atmosphere Mac's Cafe Wee bit of bonnie Scotland Rigsby's -Authentic, Innovative Italian Cusine R.J. 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High Street 445-0310 Zencha Tea Salon An innovative place to reinvigorate after a busy day or relax & have a cup of tea Bodega Coffee Shop Surly Girl Saloon Sassy comfort food Cafe Corner Gourmet Sandwiches Michael's Good Boy Skully's Music-Diner Downtown Connection Little Brothers Nightclub B. Hampton's on Third Pastas, pizzas, pool tables Dragonfly neo v cuisine Victorian's Midnight Cafe Artsy coffeehouse
November 15, 200816 yr Ummmm Thats not "Downtown", atleast not proper! And who has the money to shop at some of those over priced "Boutiques" anyways! I know I sure as hell don't! 3359.03 Downtown District boundary. The Downtown District is that area indicated on the official city zoning map and bounded as follows: Beginning at the intersection of Interstate 70 and the western bank of the Scioto River; Thence northeasterly along the Scioto River to the first railroad right-of-way; Thence northerly along said railroad right-of-way to the first intersecting railroad right-of-way; Thence westerly along said railroad right-of-way to the intersection of State Route 315; Thence northerly along State Route 315 to the intersection of Interstate 670; Thence easterly along Interstate 670 to the intersection of Interstate 71; Thence southerly along Interstate 71 to the intersection of Interstate 70; Thence westerly along Interstate 70 to the place of beginning. http://ordlink.com/cgi-bin/hilite.pl/codes/columbus/_DATA/TITLE33/Chapter_3359_DOWNTOWN_DISTRICT.html#4
November 15, 200816 yr Ummmm Thats not "Downtown", atleast not proper! And who has the money to shop at some of those over priced "Boutiques anyways! Not me! Though the North Market is really cheap. The Short North has some great vintage stores but I can't believe how much some of the stuff sells for in those. Like those little old black and white TVs from the 60s and 70s. I used to have one when I was a little kid. I was surprised to see that they wanted hundreds of dollars for one. Random old furniture, kitchenware, etc way over priced. One store had a bed that elvis supposedly slept on once and they wanted 700 dollars for it.
November 15, 200816 yr Dude, did you seriously just post a list of every business in Short North? Most of that isn't even "shopping".
November 15, 200816 yr They're not even an attempt at Mainstreet. They're just modern day strip malls.
November 15, 200816 yr Dude, did you seriously just post a list of every business in Short North? Most of that isn't even "shopping". A vibrant corridor needs more than just shopping ;)
November 15, 200816 yr Columbus does not have the best downtown shopping in Ohio by any stretch of the imagination. Cleveland still has the relatively successful Tower City, while Cincinnati still has Macy's, Saks, Tiffany's, Brooks Brothers, etc. If we're talking neighborhood shopping then Columbus can hold its own with the Short North and a few other hoods, but I wouldnt say it wins there, either.
November 15, 200816 yr Ugh, lifetstyle centers. I hate them more than shopping malls. At least the shopping mall doesn't try faking what it is- a suburban trash hole. Lifestyle centers attempt to be a "main street" of a city, but they're surrounded by surface lots just as large, if not larger, than traditional malls. They're f$&king jokes, and every bit as destructive to humanity as tradional malls. In fact, they're much worse since they basically say, "in America, we don't give a sh!t about our cities, so we attempt to build some half-assed version of one ten or fifteen miles away from downtown near a suburban ring highway." I must be coming down with a fever as I agree C-Dawg. :o
November 15, 200816 yr I love lifestyle centers, I don't know what you guys are talking about! They're really great because you actually get a real nice mini urban experience. I mean, Crocker Park has those cool buildings, nice big sidewalks, cool chess sets...etc... I think it's more fun and easier than shopping downtown would be. They have a ton of great parking too so u don't have to drive around for hours looking for a parking spot or take a bus /rapid. They also have really hip 'n cool shops there that I really like ! (like Ambercrombie & Fitch!) and EXCELLENT dining options! (like cheesecake factory, Max & Erma's, etc..)
November 15, 200816 yr I love lifestyle centers, I don't know what you guys are talking about! They're really great because you actually get a real nice mini urban experience. I mean, Crocker Park has those cool buildings, nice big sidewalks, cool chess sets...etc... I think it's more fun and easier than shopping downtown would be. They have a ton of great parking too so u don't have to drive around for hours looking for a parking spot or take a bus /rapid. They also have really hip 'n cool shops there that I really like ! (like Ambercrombie & Fitch!) and EXCELLENT dining options! (like cheesecake factory, Max & Erma's, etc..) After reading that: [*]I'm in the midst of a Stroke [*]I've suffered a mild heart attack [*]Dementia has set in early [*]All of the above "mini urban" experience? To me that translates into a "sanitized" faux experience minus any unique (ie different) people, business or venues Cool building? WTF?! I'm not sure how old you are, but have you ever had the experience to shop downtown? I'd rather take the train downtown and walk around and shop than drive to a parking lot then walk around something that pretends to be downtown. ::) I know I'm going to sound like an snob - but I really don't care - as a high end luxury shopper, what at CP can be considered "hip" or "cool" :? Somebody...anybody... let a brotha know!
November 15, 200816 yr Crocker park is nice But this is awfully subjective, no? Nice compared to what? and yes it is "subjective". People, MTS does not approve of spending money at "lifestyle centers"! Stay away...stay very, very far away. Where else are you going to shop in Cleveland? Are you serious or being snarky? No, I'm being serious. Can you actually say that - as apparently well off as you are - you could enjoy shopping in Cleveland without going to any of those lifestyle centers or malls and be satisfied with what is offered? It's not just a Cleveland thing. Stuff gets built where its been proven to be successful and most of the wealth is in the auto-centric 'burbs.
November 15, 200816 yr No, I'm being serious. Can you actually say that - as apparently well off as you are - you could enjoy shopping in Cleveland without going to any of those lifestyle centers or malls and be satisfied with what is offered? It's not just a Cleveland thing. Stuff gets built where its been proven to be successful and most of the wealth is in the auto-centric 'burbs. Not in Ohio. I can no longer shop at they type of stores, that I liked in downtown Cleveland as they (Barney's, Fendi, Politix, Gucci, etc.) no longer exist. The only place that has stores that I would even entertain spending my money at is at Beachwood mall. I have never bought anything at a lifestyle center with the exception of buying some items at the Expo Design Center when it was open. That reason is that they had the exact item I needed in stock and I had to make an immediate purchase. Now having said that, that does not mean that there are other places within the city limits that others can shop. There are plenty of store downtown that do cater to many peoples needs. TowerCity has done good business even without an anchor tenant and the loss of it's high end stores. The Galleria, has also been stable. Along with the Healthline completion and other developments I'm hopeful that street level retail will bloom on downtown streets again. However, lifestyle centers and Indoor Malls are two different distribution / sales categories.
November 15, 200816 yr The only difference between an indoor mall and a lifestyle center is that a lifestyle center caters to a person's broader needs. So I don't understand why people prefer indoor malls over lifestyle centers :wtf:
November 15, 200816 yr The only difference between an indoor mall and a lifestyle center is that a lifestyle center caters to a person's broader needs. So I don't understand why people prefer indoor malls over lifestyle centers :wtf: The keyword is "indoor" and that is how commecial real estate distinguishes the two lifestyle centers are new age "strip malls".
November 15, 200816 yr I love lifestyle centers, I don't know what you guys are talking about! They're really great because you actually get a real nice mini urban experience. I mean, Crocker Park has those cool buildings, nice big sidewalks, cool chess sets...etc... I think it's more fun and easier than shopping downtown would be. They have a ton of great parking too so u don't have to drive around for hours looking for a parking spot or take a bus /rapid. They also have really hip 'n cool shops there that I really like ! (like Ambercrombie & Fitch!) and EXCELLENT dining options! (like cheesecake factory, Max & Erma's, etc..) After reading that: [*]I'm in the midst of a Stroke [*]I've suffered a mild heart attack [*]Dementia has set in early [*]All of the above "mini urban" experience? To me that translates into a "sanitized" faux experience minus any unique (ie different) people, business or venues Cool building? WTF?! I'm not sure how old you are, but have you ever had the experience to shop downtown? I'd rather take the train downtown and walk around and shop than drive to a parking lot then walk around something that pretends to be downtown. ::) I know I'm going to sound like an snob - but I really don't care - as a high end luxury shopper, what at CP can be considered "hip" or "cool" :? Somebody...anybody... let a brotha know! Restoration Hardware And I do not have a problem with growing cities wanting to (re)create the urban experiences they see in older cities. We've gone over this hundreds of times in dozens of threads. If I had to choose what type of shopping experience outer-ring suburbs get to have (Great Northern version vs. Crocker Park version), CP will always win. This has nothing to do with downtown. Yes everyone here would agree that their particular urban setting downtown needs more retail, but that does not mean the outer rings cannot create their own.
November 15, 200816 yr Restoration Hardware And I do not have a problem with growing cities wanting to (re)create the urban experiences they see in older cities. We've gone over this hundreds of times in dozens of threads. If I had to choose what type of shopping experience outer-ring suburbs get to have (Great Northern version vs. Crocker Park version), CP will always win. This has nothing to do with downtown. Yes everyone here would agree that their particular urban setting downtown needs more retail, but that does not mean the outer rings cannot create their own. OK. You got me with Restoration Hardware. I guess we each have our opinions on what is "attractive" to them. To me LV and CP are just strip malls surrounded by parking that make an attempt to feel act like downtown, yet not urban in any way. These "centers" not truly open to or accessible to all, based on location and demographics. They are not unique, exciting or provide "flag ship" stores. They are places where "blah" chains breed.
November 15, 200816 yr Dude, did you seriously just post a list of every business in Short North? Most of that isn't even "shopping". A vibrant corridor needs more than just shopping ;) Like Verizon Wireless and Smoothie King! :)
November 16, 200816 yr Restoration Hardware And I do not have a problem with growing cities wanting to (re)create the urban experiences they see in older cities. We've gone over this hundreds of times in dozens of threads. If I had to choose what type of shopping experience outer-ring suburbs get to have (Great Northern version vs. Crocker Park version), CP will always win. This has nothing to do with downtown. Yes everyone here would agree that their particular urban setting downtown needs more retail, but that does not mean the outer rings cannot create their own. OK. You got me with Restoration Hardware. I guess we each have our opinions on what is "attractive" to them. To me LV and CP are just strip malls surrounded by parking. That make an attempt to feel act like downtown, yet not urban in any way; not truly open to or accessible to all or unique or exciting. But CP isn't just a strip mall. There is housing and office space. The town homes are attractive - at least from the outside.
November 16, 200816 yr Restoration Hardware And I do not have a problem with growing cities wanting to (re)create the urban experiences they see in older cities. We've gone over this hundreds of times in dozens of threads. If I had to choose what type of shopping experience outer-ring suburbs get to have (Great Northern version vs. Crocker Park version), CP will always win. This has nothing to do with downtown. Yes everyone here would agree that their particular urban setting downtown needs more retail, but that does not mean the outer rings cannot create their own. OK. You got me with Restoration Hardware. I guess we each have our opinions on what is "attractive" to them. To me LV and CP are just strip malls surrounded by parking. That make an attempt to feel act like downtown, yet not urban in any way; not truly open to or accessible to all or unique or exciting. But CP isn't just a strip mall. There is housing and office space. The town homes are attractive - at least from the outside. As you stated, it's subject. ;) I've seen few homes (single family, townhouses, condo or apartment buildings) built after 1959 that I like.
November 16, 200816 yr I love lifestyle centers, I don't know what you guys are talking about! They're really great because you actually get a real nice mini urban experience. I mean, Crocker Park has those cool buildings, nice big sidewalks, cool chess sets...etc... I think it's more fun and easier than shopping downtown would be. They have a ton of great parking too so u don't have to drive around for hours looking for a parking spot or take a bus /rapid. They also have really hip 'n cool shops there that I really like ! (like Ambercrombie & Fitch!) and EXCELLENT dining options! (like cheesecake factory, Max & Erma's, etc..) After reading that: [*]I'm in the midst of a Stroke [*]I've suffered a mild heart attack [*]Dementia has set in early [*]All of the above "mini urban" experience? To me that translates into a "sanitized" faux experience minus any unique (ie different) people, business or venues Cool building? WTF?! I'm not sure how old you are, but have you ever had the experience to shop downtown? I'd rather take the train downtown and walk around and shop than drive to a parking lot then walk around something that pretends to be downtown. ::) I know I'm going to sound like an snob - but I really don't care - as a high end luxury shopper, what at CP can be considered "hip" or "cool" :? Somebody...anybody... let a brotha know! Wow Id on't know why you're so shocked! In my opinion I think CP is one of the most fun ways to spend a weekend, IMO. It's better to me to drive to CP and park and go straight home than take a smelly train or bus... I mean who knows what could happen on that train? I awlways read about people getting attacked and harassed on the rapid transit in the Plain Daler and on TV ! I think for me, it's a perfect place because I can go, have fun, shop at cool high end shops (aeropostale), eat at fancier restarants like Cheesecake or applebees across the street, and then go straight home to enjoy my purchases. If I go to downtown to shop, where am i gonna go? Cinnabon for lunch and the dollar store for shoping??
November 16, 200816 yr If I go to downtown to shop, where am i gonna go? Cinnabon for lunch and the dollar store for shoping?? You should move to Columbus. It's the only city in Ohio that offers more attractive stores, nightlife, and restaurants in the inner city than an indoor mall or lifestyle center has provided in suburban areas. The reason I brought up the Short North is because it has everything lifestyle centers try to achieve and the residential areas around it have the wealth to support it. Where else can you shop and walk right outside and see army men shooting a parade of 50 or more zombies with fake blood being spilled and everything? You won't see it in an indoor mall or lifestyle center because private owners and managers control a large portion of land and its commerce. It's private property. You can't protest, parade, pass out flyers or reinact Night of the Living Dead and get away with it on private property with private security.
November 16, 200816 yr Wow Id on't know why you're so shocked! In my opinion I think CP is one of the most fun ways to spend a weekend, IMO. It's better to me to drive to CP and park and go straight home than take a smelly train or bus... I mean who knows what could happen on that train? I awlways read about people getting attacked and harassed on the rapid transit in the Plain Daler and on TV ! I think for me, it's a perfect place because I can go, have fun, shop at cool high end shops (aeropostale), eat at fancier restarants like Cheesecake or applebees across the street, and then go straight home to enjoy my purchases. If I go to downtown to shop, where am i gonna go? Cinnabon for lunch and the dollar store for shoping?? I...I..I'm speechless. I think I'm in shock and I threw up in my mouth. If I go to downtown to shop, where am i gonna go? Cinnabon for lunch and the dollar store for shoping?? You should move to Columbus. It's the only city in Ohio that offers more attractive stores, nightlife, and restaurants in the inner city than an indoor mall or lifestyle center has provided in suburban areas. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
November 16, 200816 yr It's true. No Ohio inner city has the amount of wealth inner city Columbus does. Compare them with Socialexplorer and factor in gentrification trends from the last 8 years.
November 16, 200816 yr It's true. No Ohio inner city has the amount of wealth inner city Columbus does. Compare them with Socialexplorer and factor in gentrification trends from the last 8 years. I'm a cynic, please show me proof.
November 16, 200816 yr He said high end stores like Aeropostale lmao they're basically Old Navy except their bags have drawstrings.
November 16, 200816 yr You should move to Columbus. It's the only city in Ohio that offers more attractive stores, nightlife, and restaurants in the inner city than an indoor mall or lifestyle center has provided in suburban areas. The reason I brought up the Short North is because it has everything lifestyle centers try to achieve and the residential areas around it have the wealth to support it. I've been to Columbus and I definately find my town much moar interesting and urban (Medina, OH). Sorry!!
November 16, 200816 yr You should move to Columbus. It's the only city in Ohio that offers more attractive stores, nightlife, and restaurants in the inner city than an indoor mall or lifestyle center has provided in suburban areas. The reason I brought up the Short North is because it has everything lifestyle centers try to achieve and the residential areas around it have the wealth to support it. I've been to Columbus and I definately find my town much moar interesting and urban (Medina, OH). Sorry!! It's cool. Everyone has their own opinion.
November 16, 200816 yr ^Wow interestin video! NExt time I feel the desire to be around a bunch of hippies who weren't cool enough to move to NYC or see an ~indie band~ with a sousaphone I know where to go!
November 16, 200816 yr If I go to downtown to shop, where am i gonna go? Cinnabon for lunch and the dollar store for shoping?? You should move to Columbus. It's the only city in Ohio that offers more attractive stores, nightlife, and restaurants in the inner city than an indoor mall or lifestyle center has provided in suburban areas. The reason I brought up the Short North is because it has everything lifestyle centers try to achieve and the residential areas around it have the wealth to support it. Where else can you shop and walk right outside and see army men shooting a parade of 50 or more zombies with fake blood being spilled and everything? You won't see it in an indoor mall or lifestyle center because private owners and managers control a large portion of land and its commerce. It's private property. You can't protest, parade, pass out flyers or reinact Night of the Living Dead and get away with it on private property with private security. Simply not true. When the most upper class people in Cincinnati need to shop, they go to Saks (Downtown), Tiffany's(Downtown), the boutiques of Hyde Park or O'Brionville, or Kenwood. Kenwood being the only suburban location. The only reason Columbus city might have better shopping is because they annexed most of the suburbs around it. If Cincinnati annexed as much as Columbus, Kenwood would be in the city too. Regardless, when it comes to upscale shopping, Cincy does alright. Of course, virtually all of the upscale dining in Cincinnati is in the city, rather than the burbs. Upscale Columbus is Easton and Polaris.
November 16, 200816 yr Yes, Cincy does fine. I'm just saying, if you're walking around - the short north offers far more in a central location than anywhere in Ohio. I love Obryonville, Hyde Park Square, St. Gregory in Mt. Adams, Downtown etc. I'm talking about centralization and selection. It's enough to be considered better than any mall in Ohio. Downtown Cincinnati has a fantastic upscale dining scene - I worked in it so trust me I know. It's world class.
November 16, 200816 yr Yes, Cincy does fine. I'm just saying, if you're walking around - the short north offers far more in a central location than anywhere in Ohio. I love Obryonville, Hyde Park Square, St. Gregory in Mt. Adams, Downtown etc. I'm talking about centralization and selection. It's enough to be considered better than any mall in Ohio. Downtown Cincinnati has a fantastic upscale dining scene - I worked in it so trust me I know. It's world class. If I go to downtown to shop, where am i gonna go? Cinnabon for lunch and the dollar store for shoping?? You should move to Columbus. It's the only city in Ohio that offers more attractive stores, nightlife, and restaurants in the inner city than an indoor mall or lifestyle center has provided in suburban areas. The reason I brought up the Short North is because it has everything lifestyle centers try to achieve and the residential areas around it have the wealth to support it. :wtf:
November 16, 200816 yr Yes, Cincy does fine. I'm just saying, if you're walking around - the short north offers far more in a central location than anywhere in Ohio. I love Obryonville, Hyde Park Square, St. Gregory in Mt. Adams, Downtown etc. I'm talking about centralization and selection. It's enough to be considered better than any mall in Ohio. Downtown Cincinnati has a fantastic upscale dining scene - I worked in it so trust me I know. It's world class. If I go to downtown to shop, where am i gonna go? Cinnabon for lunch and the dollar store for shoping?? You should move to Columbus. It's the only city in Ohio that offers more attractive stores, nightlife, and restaurants in the inner city than an indoor mall or lifestyle center has provided in suburban areas. The reason I brought up the Short North is because it has everything lifestyle centers try to achieve and the residential areas around it have the wealth to support it. :wtf: You know how like...you walk through a new indoor or outdoor lifestyle center mall and there's like 50 storefronts in a row on each side? Well...that's the short north, except its in a real urban setting and most of the businesses aren't chains. I don't know why you keep quoting me - looking perplexed.
November 16, 200816 yr You know how like...you walk through a new mall and there's like 50 storefronts in a row on each side? Well...that's the short north, except its in a real urban setting and most of the businesses aren't chains. I don't know why you keep quoting me - looking perplexed. Because very little makes sense, and you've yet to provide any proof (see post 38). The cinci "world class" dining scene? lol
November 16, 200816 yr It does. Daveeds, Nicola's, Via Vite, Boca, Jean Ro, Nada, Honey, Pigall's, The Cincinnatian. These places have menus created by world class chefs. Anyone who can afford to eat at those places will tell you Cincinnati is a premiere place for fine dining. Edale is absolutely right when he says the best dining in Cincinnati is downtown. I detected a subtle hint suggesting that it's better than Columbus' dining scene and if he did, I'd agree with him wholeheartedly.
November 16, 200816 yr It does. Daveeds, Nicola's, Via Vite, Boca, Jean Ro, Nada, Honey, Pigall's, The Cincinnatian. These places have menus created by world class chefs. Can you show me any documentation? Something...anything?? Who are these "world class" chefs? What criteria are you using to determine "world class"?
November 16, 200816 yr It does. Daveeds, Nicola's, Via Vite, Boca, Jean Ro, Nada, Honey, Pigall's, The Cincinnatian. These places have menus created by world class chefs. Can you show me any documentation? Something...anything?? Who are these "world class" chefs? What criteria are you using to determine "world class"? The 150-300 reservations on the books per night speak for themselves. Cincinnati is very underrated in terms of fine dining. You're not going to see articles about it in the same way you do for San Francisco - it's very low key as far as national recognition. Jean Robert, David Cook, Christian Pietoso, David Falk are some of them. At the restaurant I worked at they recruited a chef for six figures, from Napa Valley and he wasn't even the executive chef. It's probably only the 5-6th best restaurant downtown. There are also some great upscale chain restaurants in Downtown Cincinnati. Edit: Sorry for getting too far off topic - lets stick to the demerits of strip malls lifestyle centers.
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