As this is their primary fundraiser, local support for setting up the event, a good showing at the induction and a sizable donation of funds at the event will all make it likelier that Cleveland hosts it in the future.

 

I wonder if the financial results of the 1997 induction were lackluster or if the decision to move it to NYC was more arbitrary.

The members of the Rock Hall want it in NYC. Since the labels are here and NYC has the services for the venues major fund raiser.

 

This to me believe we're going to have future announcements about hotels and tourist and convention related business.

 

I don't like this "every third year" business.  I would settle for every other year though.

I hear ya but its better than every ten.

When I was at warner records I voiced that it should be in Cleveland everyyear.  However the board of the foundation and the rock hall are two seperate entities and they run the show.

 

Me thinks...NYC is to expensive, so they want to come to Cleveland, part-time.

^^^I actually think the every third could work. Not if they do one year in Cleveland and two in NYC. I think it could really work well in the do one year in Cleveland, one in NYC and one in a rotating city throughout the country and the world. I think that would do wonders to both spread the consciousness of the rock hall and recognize the truly transcendent nature of music. LA, London, Tokyo, Memphis, Seattle, Sydney and many others...each can stake their claim on influencing rock and, in a larger sense, popular music. With a rotating venue every third year, I think interest in the institution and visiting the hall could really be peaked.

I like that idea!

^^^I actually think the every third could work. Not if they do one year in Cleveland and two in NYC. I think it could really work well in the do one year in Cleveland, one in NYC and one in a rotating city throughout the country and the world. I think that would do wonders to both spread the consciousness of the rock hall and recognize the truly transcendent nature of music. LA, London, Tokyo, Memphis, Seattle, Sydney and many others...each can stake their claim on influencing rock and, in a larger sense, popular music. With a rotating venue every third year, I think interest in the institution and visiting the hall could really be peaked.

 

It takes the emphasis off of cleveland which we're trying to build up.  Let them do that stuff with a traveling "road show" but the ceremony should have one home - Cleveland.

^^^I actually think the every third could work. Not if they do one year in Cleveland and two in NYC. I think it could really work well in the do one year in Cleveland, one in NYC and one in a rotating city throughout the country and the world. I think that would do wonders to both spread the consciousness of the rock hall and recognize the truly transcendent nature of music. LA, London, Tokyo, Memphis, Seattle, Sydney and many others...each can stake their claim on influencing rock and, in a larger sense, popular music. With a rotating venue every third year, I think interest in the institution and visiting the hall could really be peaked.

 

Good idea.

pd:

 

More hotel glitz offered for '09 Rock Hall inductions here

Thursday, December 20, 2007

Sarah Hollander

Plain Dealer Reporter

 

High rollers heading to Cleveland for the 2009 Rock Hall induction ceremony won't be able to book a room at the Waldorf-Astoria or the Four Seasons. But they will have many more high-end hotel choices compared to the last ceremony here in 1997.

 

More than 1,000 rooms have been added downtown since then. And the Intercontinental - one of the city's top hotels - opened near University Circle.

 

...

 

From NBC:

 

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2009 Rock Hall of Fame Induction in Cleveland will be open to the public

 

 

VIDEO: http://www.wkyc.com/video/player.aspx?aid=56664&bw=

 

CLEVELAND -- Channel 3 News has learned when the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony is held here next year it will be open to the public for the first time ever.

 

This year's induction evening, at New York's Waldorf-Astoria Hotel, will be the usual gathering of music industry power players paying thousands of dollars apiece to attend.

 

But when the ceremony moves to the Rock Hall's hometown next year, for only the second time ever, it will be a public event.

 

Channel 3's Jeff Maynor reports instead of being held in a hotel ballroom the induction will be at one of the city's largest venues, most likely Quicken Loans Arena.

 

"The 'Q' and Cleveland State's Wolstein Center are newer venues that are wired for live television broadcasts. The induction is expected to be televised live on VH1.

 

Details of the Cleveland induction ceremony, including the date next March and ticket prices, are not set yet, but one source said ticket prices would likely be about the price of a ticket for a rock concert.

 

Besides opening the induction to the public for the first time ever, the Rock Hall is planning several days of related events that will be open to the public, including performances and parties at both the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and other Cleveland venues.

 

The plan is, instead of a one night stand in New York, to make next year's induction an "induction week" in the hall's hometown.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

On another note, cleveland.com actually has a pretty decent blog relating to the Rock Hall:

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/rockin/2008/03/rockin_video_update_23.html

that's great news.

The plan is, instead of a one night stand in New York, to make next year's induction an "induction week" in the hall's hometown.

 

'Bout F-ing time!!

Host American Idol or some such show there.  Every week the opening shots/credits show the Rock Hall in the background to encourage visitors to Cleveland.

 

Not that I know much about the Rock Hall but can you hold an event there such as a banquet or fund raiser?

Host American Idol or some such show there.  Every week the opening shots/credits show the Rock Hall in the background to encourage visitors to Cleveland.

 

Not that I know much about the Rock Hall but can you hold an event there such as a banquet or fund raiser?

 

Anyone can rent out the hall for whatever private event they want.  It's pricey but impressive to most guests. I did this for a large event I planned.

Yeah, but there isn't enough space to film, produce a tv show WITH a studio audience.

true.

Great great great marketing move here:

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Rock and Roll Hall of Fame offers free concerts

Sunday, May 18, 2008

 

If you're heading to Cleveland this summer, check out the bi-weekly concert series at the main stage of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum, 1100 Road and Roll Blvd., Downtown.

 

Held Wednesdays from 7 to 9 p.m., the concerts of mostly Indie rock talents are designed to link the Rock Hall with the local music scene as well as draw people from outside Cleveland to the attraction.

 

You can find more about the individual groups listed below at blog.cleveland.com.

 

For more information about the hall of fame and museum, go to www.rockhall.com

 

May 21: Nicholas Megalis; Luca Mundaca.

 

June 4: Not So Good Ol' Boys; Uncle Scratch's Gospel Revival.

 

June 18: Mystery of Two; Machine Go Boom.

 

July 2: Patrick Sweany; Kristine Jackson.

 

July 16: Whiskey Daredevils; Lords of the Highway.

 

July 30: National Suicide Day; Self Destruct Button; Clan of the Cave Bear.

 

Aug. 13: Expecting Rain; Dreadful Yawns.

 

Aug. 27: Hot Cha Cha; Miss Melvis and the Buford Pusser Experience.

 

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08139/882259-37.stm

Somebody finally posted this magnificently sleazy bit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR58dZE9VCY

 

 

And the hardest rocking 1-2 and closing of any album, ever:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmxVe3ux_jw

 

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw96Pn4XciQ

 

and the end of side B:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKqAIcqPIp4&feature=related

 

 

I've never, ever heard any of these on the radio, hardly ever heard them in public, only at parties or on the jukeboxes at explicityly rock & roll bars. 

 

free concerts tonight at the rock hall

A fantastic Rolling Stones live clip...unfortunately the average college student today has no  more knowledge of them than they do of Chuck Berry:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcaHfhD9XY0

If you'd like to see a FREE concert before the Cleveland orchestra FREE concert tomorrow:

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This week on the Cleveland Sessions Stage: Patrick Sweany, Kristine Jackson

by John Benson

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/localbands/2008/07/this_week_on_the_cleveland_ses.html

From crainscleveland.com:

 

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame to open N.Y. annex

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20080813/FREE/828500823/1022

11:10 am, August 13, 2008

 

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame plans to open an outpost in the SoHo neighborhood of New York City.

 

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Annex, as it is called, will be a small exhibit space intended to whet the appetite of rock fans for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum in Cleveland. The annex is expected to open officially in November and is part of a broader plan to create connections to the Cleveland museum in other key geographic markets.

^so is that good news or bad?

I think it's great, as long as there really will be an emphasis on the Rock Hall TOGETHER with the city itself. If it's all about the Rock Hall only and emphasizing the organization that's already based in NYC, then it's bullsh!t.

 

It would be great if they could market the city kinda in an inconspicuous sort of way. Not sure if an outright, beating them over the head about Cleveland would work as well .. in terms of having actual, separate brochures about the city, etc (maybe I'm wrong on this) .. but I think people should definitely be informed about the actual Rock Hall being in Cleveland, and this is only a taste (in terms of the NYC outlet). It sounds like this is what it will be.

Good, if people like what they see, they will visit Cleveland.

Haha I love these people on cleveland.com who think this is the first step to the Rock Hall closing and moving to NYC.  Reading these comments after each article is my daily laugh.

Reading these comments after each article is my daily laugh.

 

Really?? It's my daily cry! LOL.

Reading these comments after each article is my daily laugh.

 

Really?? It's my daily cry! LOL.

 

Yeah, to an extent.. it's even more apparent the downer attitude Cleveland and the rest of Ohio (for the majority of people) has of itself when you move out.  Next thing you know, people will be proposing turning the soon-to-be-vacant Rock Hall into a prison, a la, Simpsons style.

From crainscleveland.com:

 

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame to open N.Y. annex

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20080813/FREE/828500823/1022

11:10 am, August 13, 2008

 

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame plans to open an outpost in the SoHo neighborhood of New York City.

 

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Annex, as it is called, will be a small exhibit space intended to whet the appetite of rock fans for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum in Cleveland. The annex is expected to open officially in November and is part of a broader plan to create connections to the Cleveland museum in other key geographic markets.

 

AP is reporting this to be a 25,000 sq ft annex - that's not what I picture when they call it a "small exhibit space"

 

Anyone know the square footage of the Rock Hall?

 

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NEW YORK (AP) - The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is coming to New York.

 

Mayor Michael Bloomberg is expected to announce today that the Cleveland-based museum and hall of fame is opening an annex in downtown Manhattan.

 

Billy Joel and Clive Davis are going to join the mayor at the location in the SoHo neighborhood. It will be the first time the hall of fame has expanded outside Cleveland.

 

The 25,000-square-foot annex will house Bruce Springsteen's 1957 Chevy and will feature a number of different exhibits, including one featuring New York City-based sites that have musical significance.

 

^Rock Hall is 150K sq. ft. 25K is about the size of a small full-service grocery store.

150,000 square feet, according to the PD, is he Rock Hall's square footage. Which is definitely larger in comparison, but the 25,000 IS a bit disconcerting. When I first read the little blurb earlier, I pictured something much smaller.

 

I feel like NYC is getting to have its cake and eat it, too, to a certain extent.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2008/08/rock_and_roll_hall_of_fame_and_1.html

http://www.observer.com/2008/real-estate/rock-hall-annex-coming-soho

 

Here's another article, I didn't realize the induction ceremnoy isn't usually in Cleveland

I think it could potentially help extend the brand, if done right.  I just hope that goofey tourists don't go there & think that they've seen the real thing.

:-o  :whip:

 

 

Rock Hall Annex Coming to Soho

 

by Chris Shott  |  August 13, 2008

 

76 Mercer Street

 

Self-described "die-hard rock fan" Mayor Michael Bloomberg joined music legends Billy Joel and Clive Davis today in announcing the development of a new 25,000-square-foot annex to the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, located at 76 Mercer Street in Soho.

 

The new annex, opening in November, will include such priceless artifacts as Johnny Ramone's Mosrite guitar and the graffiti-clad phone booth from defunct legendary rock club CBGB.

 

"We're in a landmarked area of great cast-iron buildings," Joel Peresman, president and CEO of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation, said of the location, which was picked "for a variety of reasons," he added. "One, for the size; two, just as importantly, the location. You know, the location in this area is fantastic. There's plenty of people that live in this area. There's tourists who feel free to come. It's easily accessible by mass transportation."

 

Mr. Peresman added, however, that the facility is "too small" to conduct induction ceremonies. This year's inductions will take place in Cleveland. When the inductions return to New York the following year, he said, the ceremonies will take place at the Waldorf Astoria.

 

The "Piano Man," Mr. Joel, said he would donating a bunch of "stuff" to the new facility: "I'm supposed to give the annex here the jersey I was given at Shea Stadium ... but actually, that jersey is in a road case on its way to Hong Kong. So, this morning I went around my house looking for chotzkes that I could give you. And I was pulling stuff off the wall, so I've got some stuff that people are probably going to be ticked off because they gave them to me and now I'm giving them to [the annex].

 

"The first item here," Mr. Joel said, brandishing a wooden baseball bat, "was given to me by New York Mets player David Wright. So, David, sorry, but it's going in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame."

 

Mayor Bloomberg then added, "For those of you that don't come from New York, I'll translate chotzkes later on."

http://www.observer.com/2008/real-estate/rock-hall-annex-coming-soho

 

more:

 

Rock Hall of Fame Coming to SoHo

by Anne Schreffler

 

NEW YORK, NY August 13, 2008 —Billy Joel was in SoHo to present some memorabilia to the new Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Annex that will open this fall.

 

The Annex is an extension of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame based in Cleveland, Ohio, and will feature musicians from New York City and some local venues that became part of Rock legend.

 

Joel recalled the New York spots that gave him his start and grew his fame, from the Gaslight Cafe and The Bitter End to Carnegie Hall and Madison Square Garden.

 

JOEL: New York gave me my words and my music. Rock 'n' Roll gave me a place for that music to live. I must tell ya, I travel all over the world. The first question I get asked wherever I go is about New York City.

 

REPORTER: Joel donated a bat presented to him when he played a final concert at Shea Stadium this summer and a framed photograph from Madison Square Garden to celebrate his record 12 sold-out shows.

 

The Annex will open on Mercer Street this November and guests will be able to view rock relics like Elvis Presley's motorcycle jacket, John Lennon's piano and Bruce Springsteen's 57 Chevy convertible.

 

http://www.wnyc.org/news/articles/105892

 

This is the first of multiple annex for the Rock Hall.. maybe we should tell the people on Cleveland.com that they should also worry about LA, Memphis, etc haha.  The Rock Hall is going to move to Portland!!  The Beatles tour bus stopped there once so Ringo could take a wizz!!  New Rock Hall!!

I just think this dissipates the brand.  I mean, it's not the hard rock cafe, we don't need to put one in every city.  It sounds like too many people complained that it was in Cleveland so they are appeasing them.  whatever tourism we did get from the hall will definitely go down because of this IMO. 

 

I don't know why Cleveland couldn't get behind the hall and turn downtown into a rock-themed city with related restaurants, stores, renaming the streets, etc. 

Like Rock & Roll Blvd (E. 9th St)? :wink: Seriously though, I've often wondered why Cleveland hasn't capitalized more on this theme as well.

 

The more details that come out about this the more my opinion is changing from what I said above. I guess if they do a good job marketing the Cleveland location at these 'annexes' that could be beneficial as well.

Yeah. At first I was really all for this, but now I just have such a bad feeling about it.

 

I mean, in both of those little blurbs above, Cleveland is barely mentioned, and in one of them, it isn't even stated that the actual Hall of Fame is based in CLEVELAND. I feel like this whole thing will take business AWAY from Cleveland because it'll tell people, "Hey, why go to Cleveland?? You have a Rock Hall right here! I mean, it's not the full version, but you get the idea."

 

I question their plan here and whether or not it will really drum up business for Cleveland. I'm not saying it won't be done right .. I'm just .. apprehensive.

My stomach also turned over when I read those articles. 

 

I can see them building a new larger rock hall somewhere else (NYC, LA, Seattle) and turning Clevelands rock hall into an annex... but let's not get ahead of ourselves.

As long as Madonna's bustier from her 'Blonde Ambition' tour isn't loaned out indefinitely... talk about a sacred icon!

For me it's Janis' Porsche, but to each his own  :-D

hopefully it wont last long and will just go away, like everything else does around there with the fickle mall shopper crowd.

Look at this take on the N.Y. "annex" from everyones favorite Forbes!  They're really disgusting..

(warning, the first few lines are brutal)

 

Rockin' 'N Rollin' Away From Cleveland

Ruthie Ackerman, 08.13.08, 10:22 PM ET

 

Apparently, Cleveland doesn't rock enough for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

 

When the museum opened in 1995, it was expected to attract up to 1 million visitors a year and make over the image of the Ohio city derided by some as the “mistake by the lake.” Instead, it is the location of the hall of fame that is looking like a mistake.

 

Cleveland just can’t draw enough tourists, so the rock museum is turning to New York City, home of Tin Pan Alley and the birthplace of many a musician’s career, to help revive the flagging brand.

 

On Wednesday, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and piano man Billy Joel announced that the museum and hall of fame will open an annex in Soho in downtown Manhattan. It is also looking to establish branches in Las Vegas and the Middle East.

 

When Cleveland made its pitch to be the home of the planned hall of fame in 1986, it won as much due to sheer persistence as anything else. Boosters collected reams of signatures for petitions begging for the city to be considered and radio stations encouraged listeners to vote for Cleveland in a USA Today poll. Rivals included Memphis, San Francisco, New Orleans and Chicago.

 

The hall was initially expected to cost $20 million. By the time it was done, the price tag had soared to $92 million, with $8 million coming from government grants and $34 million from state-backed bonds. Gov. George Voinovich was a heavy booster for the project, saying all of northeast Ohio would benefit from the tourist traffic the museum would generate.

 

Fast forward 12 years: In 2007, the museum drew 451,000 visitors, down significantly from the 872,700 that visited in 1996, its first full year. Revenue has also been disappointing. In 2007, the museum took in $11.3 million, down from $15.1 million in 2004.

 

The rock museum hopes opening new branches--following a playbook created by the likes of the Guggenheim and the Louvre--will provide more revenue, attract more philanthropy dollars and lure more visitors to the mothership in Cleveland.

 

The 25,000-sq.-foot annex in New York will house Bruce Springsteen's 1957 Chevy and will feature a number of different exhibits, including one featuring New York City-based sites that have musical significance. The annex will open in November.

 

“There really isn't a more fitting spot for this museum than New York, the hometown of Hall of Famers like the Velvet Underground, Paul Simon and Blondie,” Bloomberg said at a press conference Wednesday. The museum could help draw tourists to the city, create jobs and cushion the impact of downturns on Wall Street, he added.

 

With the weakened dollar, tourists have been flocking to New York City from all over the world to see the sites and go shopping at a discount.

 

Another annex is being planned for Las Vegas and will be more entertainment oriented, said Terry Stewart, the museum's president and CEO.

 

Admission at the New York annex will be $26 for adults, $4 more than in Cleveland.

 

The New York annex will be open for at least two years, longer if it proves successful.

 

Among the planned exhibits is "New York Rocks," which will be dedicated to Big Apple artists like Joel and the Talking Heads' David Byrne.

 

http://www.forbes.com/markets/2008/08/13/rock-roll-fame-markets-face-cx_ra_0813autofacescan02.html

Wow.. Forbes is just a Cleveland bash-mag nowadays.

Rock Hall announces 2009 nominees: Metallica, Run-D.M.C., Bobby Womack among hopefuls for April induction gala in Cleveland

by John Soeder/Plain Dealer Pop Music Critic

Monday September 22, 2008, 10:00 AM

 

Guess who could be coming to the ultimate rock 'n' roll dinner party next year in Cleveland. Heavy-metal band Metallica, hip-hop group Run-D.M.C. and R&B veteran Bobby Womack are officially among the artists in the running for a spot in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, whose 2009 induction ceremony will be held April 4 at Public Hall.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/music/index.ssf/2008/09/exclusive_rock_hall_announces.html

So I'm only slightly distraught that I won't have the opportunity stalk, er, see Bon Jovi... maybe it'll be another three years until he gets in!

I didn't even know until a year ago that Aerosmith had had a "hit" with Run-DMC.  Back then, all I listened to was college radio because everything on FM-rock was crap.  WONE in Akron was pretty clever with their playlist and WNCX-classic rock in Cleveland was a good playlist, but that stuff wore thin.  Led-Pink-Floyd-Zlin.  Whitey stuff. 

2009 induction ceremony will be held April 4 at Public Hall

 

Don't get me wrong PH is a beautiful old building but the Q seems like a better "fit" for this type of event.