It's ridiculous that Axl couldn't chill out and at least take the stage with the rest of the band to accept the award.  Guns N Roses was, by far, the greatest of that era's bands, but their legacy has been tarnished like no other by Axl's behavior. 

 

Here it is, the tackiest 4 minutes in the history of the small screen (it gets real goofy at 2:30):

Axl knows how to make the world stop talking about other things and talk about him instead. He loves it.

Didnt it rain last time we had it too?

^too bad it's not November

Oh wow I didn't realize they had the uncut footage of the riot-inducing incident in St. Louis:

 

This was like major news at the time, covered by all the local TV stations everywhere looking to get old ladies stirred up.  But they never aired more than the blink where Axl jumped in the crowd.  Nice to see him throw a punch here.  It's the total opposite of Iggy Pop throwing the peanut butter. 

 

 

 

 

VIDEO highlights!

 

http://www.cleveland.com/rockhall/index.ssf/2012/04/rock_and_roll_hall_of_fame_ind_16.html

It was an awesome evening - 5.5 hours!!  Even with the absent people, the performances were great.  My short recap:

 

Green Day did a great job opening and getting the crowd amped up.  I'm not a huge fan of these guys but I admit they are pretty good and have high energy and engage the crowd.

 

Terry Stewart was thanking various people and when he thanked Gov Kasich, there were quite a few boos from the crowd, which I found pretty amusing.

 

ZZ Top and Derek Trucks rocked as they played Freddie King's music.

 

Nice intro speech by Chuck D and LL Cool J and nice to se Mike D and Ad-Rock, too bad MCA wasn't there though.  The Roots and Kid Rock (ugh) and some dude who I have no idea who he is performed some of the BBoys songs.  It could have been better.  Obviously without MCA the other two were not going to perform.

 

John Mellencamp and Donovan were cool.  Better Midler - whatever.  Laura Nyro's son accepted the award which was nice. 

 

Enjoyable performance by the Faces.  I didn't really know who these guys were, but they obviously have some incredible members.

 

It was nice when all the backup bands were inducted.  These guys were mostly old timers at this point and you could tell it really meant something to them.

 

GNR rocked, even without Axl.  They had some other dude as the lead singer, which kinda reminded me of Mark Wahlberg in Rock Star. 

 

Chris Rock introduced the Chili Peppers and of course had some funny jokes.  Chili Peppers tore up the stage and then brought back other people to join them on stage for the final song - Billie Joe Armstrong, Ronnie Wood, George Clinton came up out of the audience, and more - I don't remember all.

 

Overall it was a pretty great night.  I can't imagine a time other than the last induction ceremony that there was this many famous musicians in one room in Cleveland. 

 

I will post some red carpet pics later - not that they are very good.  I didn't see and of the inductees except Freddie King's daughter.  I did get Alice Cooper, David Arquette, and Matt Pinfield.

Is MCA the one who is sick? 

 

Jesus Christ Billie Joe and Green Day just die.  I hate that dude and I hate his band and I hate his music and I hate his fans. 

 

What a blowout last night. Big props to the Rock Hall staff for putting on a fantastic show and the music was unbelievable!!

Is MCA the one who is sick? 

 

Jesus Christ Billie Joe and Green Day just die.  I hate that dude and I hate his band and I hate his music and I hate his fans. 

 

 

Yeah he was diagnosed with cancer a few years ago.  Haha, as I said, I am not a huge Green Day fan, but you have to give them credit, they have been around for a while and are pretty sucessfull.

Enjoyable performance by the Faces.  I didn't really know who these guys were, but they obviously have some incredible members.

 

*dies 1000 deaths*

Enjoyable performance by the Faces.  I didn't really know who these guys were, but they obviously have some incredible members.

 

*dies 1000 deaths*

 

Haha.  I didn't really know who they were before I went but I did look them up before I went and listened to them also.  Once I looked up who they were, I certainly knew most of the members - just from different stuff.  They put on an enjoyable set.

Freddie King's daughter

 

 

Alice Cooper

 

 

David Arquette

 

 

Frank Jackson

 

Matt Pinfield

 

"Beastie Boys"

 

Thanks for the photos.  The Faces -- yeah Ron Wood is pretty much my favorite guitar player, at least of that style. 

 

Thinking of the Beastie Boys...that first record was banned at my school.  If you brought the tape to school or wore one of their shirts, you got detention.  We had a very vague idea of what New York City was, and pretty much all of our early impressions came from the Beastie Boys talking about all this stuff that was there.  I had no idea idea what Manhattan or Brooklyn were (their own cities?  neighborhoods?), whatever they were, they made it sound like they were the places where stuff came from.  It was a few years before I looked at a map of NYC for the first time and saw how it was all laid out. 

 

I remember sitting around listening to this tape when it came out, listening over and over to the "Famous Mr. Ed" part at 1:43:

 

They probably just recorded that by holding a mic up to a TV while the show was on.  I still think it's one of the funniest interludes to be heard anywhere. 

Matt Pinfield hasn't suffered a coronary yet?

Beastie Boys were entertaining in a "Doctor Demento" manner.

"What's that noise?"

I'm a little disappointed with the local media after this weekend.  When there are large tourist drawing events such as this I enjoy reading outsiders impressions of Cleveland.  I know there's not much I would learn from the article/video but it's nice to hear thoughts about our city from those who are unbiased, impartial observers who would not normally make a trip here.  It can be a way to gauge the areas in which we need to improve and where we are doing things right (although they typically give vague answers).

 

The only thing I've seen is a video one of the news stations has where the reporter asked 2 people from out of town how much money they will be spending over the weekend.  Has anyone seen anything else?

I just wanted to see some pics of Public hall's decked out interior.

 

Do any exist?

Not from me they don't.  MTS threatened me and told me I'd be in big trouble if I took pictures inside.  I didn't even bring a camera in, although I should have, security wasn't exactly all that tight going in.

Well, the induction ceremony will be broadcast on HBO in a few weeks.  Saw an advertisement for it last night.

I'm really angry at myself for not snapping any pics before the show while a lot of the lights were still on.  Attached is the best pic I could find on my cell in terms of showing as much of the hall as possible.  The small square ceiling lights (LED?) were able to change colors and really made the auditorium look cool when I first walked inside.

^ Thank you!

 

 

Cool pic.

 

So is public Auditorium a good place for this and does it work well for this particular event?  I was just curious since there is always discussion about what type of things this could be used for. 

This was my first time in the venue and it boggles my mind that this isn't utilized more often.  I thought it was a great venue for a concert and would much rather see a show in Public Auditorium than the Q.  If the tables are taken out of the floor area and general admission or even chair seats were sold I would think they could get somewhere around 8-9,000 people in there.  And when you factor in the seats behind the stage at the Q aren't sold for concerts it can't be that big of a difference in capacity crowds.  I'll look through my phone and see if there are any other pics worthy of posting.

Interesting.  Thanks T7.  Yeah I would love to see this place used more. 

Hopefully after the Convention Center is done, the MM people see the value and beauty of this place and utilize it for some events.   

This was my first time in the venue and it boggles my mind that this isn't utilized more often.  I thought it was a great venue for a concert and would much rather see a show in Public Auditorium than the Q.  If the tables are taken out of the floor area and general admission or even chair seats were sold I would think they could get somewhere around 8-9,000 people in there.  And when you factor in the seats behind the stage at the Q aren't sold for concerts it can't be that big of a difference in capacity crowds.  I'll look through my phone and see if there are any other pics worthy of posting.

 

The Q is much bigger.  21,000 in basketball configuration.  In typical end stage, just lower bowl it's up near 10,000.  If you add in the upper level it's easily up around 14,000.

 

But there is more than seats.  There are modern concessions, restrooms, 10 loading docks and a host of other technical features that Public Auditorium doesn't have.  With this being said, I too am a fan of the building.  Hopefully the continuing convention center renovations will put more money into the ole girl.

It doesn't matter that the Q has more seats or modern concession, restrooms or whatever. The Public Auditorium is a vastly better hall to have a music event period and I'm sure that's why the people who have anything to do with the Rock Hall have it there. The Q would be horrible venue.

acoustics mean something and basketball arenas are rarely good for sound.

acoustics mean something and basketball arenas are rarely good for sound.

Exactly Whitjacket and why the Coliseum was such a horrible place for concerts although they had plenty of them held there.

>Matt Pinfield hasn't suffered a coronary yet?

 

Remember when MTV put, um, "unlikely" people on TV?:

 

I mean, MTV in the pre-Carson Daley era would totally bore...the Carson Daley crowd.  Really, more than anything else, Carson Daley was the end of Western Civilization. 

 

 

I have seen several concerts at Public Hall though it was years ago. The age of the building is a major consideration. Modern amenities like lots of bathrooms are a problem, and IIRC there is no place for multiple concessions. It's very hard to load-in/load-out there and so acts don't want to play there, and until they started having the rock hall concerts there, they were very limited in terms of electrical as I recall. I think, but am not sure, that a lot of of power and rigging is only put in via a temporary setup for these once-every-3-years events, it's not inherent in the building and I think a lot of it was not up to proper electrical code before the rock hall induction 3 years ago. I remember reading a lot of articles about the problems and challenges in having it there 3 years ago, and I don't think those have gone away. It's charming, but it's old and limited in what you can do in there, and very expensive if you have to retrofit it for use each time a big concert is held there. Touring bands will not want to pay for that kind of thing.

"...MMPI of Chicago described it as a pyrotechnical disaster waiting to happen." "A $3.9 million makeover, including restoration of the main entrance on Lakeside Avenue and improvements to the stage lighting inside the 10,000-seat main hall, should put the hall back in business."

 

(from http://www.cleveland.com/opinion/index.ssf/2011/08/clevelands_public_auditorium_p.html)

 

So, the future may be bright if those renovations are indeed complete.

 

 

 

 

It doesn't matter that the Q has more seats or modern concession, restrooms or whatever. The Public Auditorium is a vastly better hall to have a music event period and I'm sure that's why the people who have anything to do with the Rock Hall have it there. The Q would be horrible venue.

 

I'm actually sure that the Rock Hall people have the event at Public Hall for a few reasons:

 

A.  The historical surroundings.

B.  The city gives them the building rent free.

C.  Politically it would look bad for them to go outside of a city managed building

 

I'm sure if HBO and the Rock Hall staff had their way they would choose the Q for these and many more reasons.  And from the acoustic point of view, the Q is actually more flexible and manageable than Public Hall, with it's flat concrete surfaces, limited rigging for PA and fixed stage positioning.

 

Like I said, I am a fan of Public Hall--just pointing out it's drawbacks vs a modern arena.  It is my hope that this event continues to show the people of Cleveland what a great building it once was and money is set aside to continue to upgrade and improve it's facilities.

It is still an awards ceremony, not just a rock concert.  I think Public Hall is the best venue

It is still an awards ceremony, not just a rock concert.  I think Public Hall is the best venue

 

Agree 100%.  I wish we had the ceremony more than every three years because the attention is good for the building.

I cannot fathom how we could afford to have the ceremony here every  year, plus the foundation is located in NY. I mean, we won the location for the HOF, but not the foundation and all their offices and employees. I'm just glad they're having it here every 3 years now instead of never. Every other year would be nice too, but it's just so expensive, I don't know how we would do it.

I cannot fathom how we could afford to have the ceremony here every  year, plus the foundation is located in NY. I mean, we won the location for the HOF, but not the foundation and all their offices and employees. I'm just glad they're having it here every 3 years now instead of never. Every other year would be nice too, but it's just so expensive, I don't know how we would do it.

 

I think every-other year would be appropriate and doable.  It would probably actually be easier to get corporate underwriting if the schedule were more "routine" than every three years.  The City of Cleveland did well last weekend--would be a worthy investment!

 

Thanks for the pics!

 

Freddie King's daughter

 

 

Alice Cooper

 

 

David Arquette

 

 

Frank Jackson

 

Matt Pinfield

 

"Beastie Boys"

 

Interesting!

 

From Axl:

 

http://entertainment.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/17/11253103-axl-rose-apologizes-to-cleveland-for-rock-hall-snub?lite

I cannot fathom how we could afford to have the ceremony here every  year, plus the foundation is located in NY. I mean, we won the location for the HOF, but not the foundation and all their offices and employees. I'm just glad they're having it here every 3 years now instead of never. Every other year would be nice too, but it's just so expensive, I don't know how we would do it.

 

I think every-other year would be appropriate and doable.  It would probably actually be easier to get corporate underwriting if the schedule were more "routine" than every three years.  The City of Cleveland did well last weekend--would be a worthy investment!

 

AGAIN, at this moment we don't have the infrastructure to handle it.  The number of Hotel rooms is the number one issues with guests.

It doesn't matter that the Q has more seats or modern concession, restrooms or whatever. The Public Auditorium is a vastly better hall to have a music event period and I'm sure that's why the people who have anything to do with the Rock Hall have it there. The Q would be horrible venue.

 

I'm actually sure that the Rock Hall people have the event at Public Hall for a few reasons:

 

A.  The historical surroundings.

B.  The city gives them the building rent free.

C.  Politically it would look bad for them to go outside of a city managed building

 

I'm sure if HBO and the Rock Hall staff had their way they would choose the Q for these and many more reasons.  And from the acoustic point of view, the Q is actually more flexible and manageable than Public Hall, with it's flat concrete surfaces, limited rigging for PA and fixed stage positioning.

 

Like I said, I am a fan of Public Hall--just pointing out it's drawbacks vs a modern arena.  It is my hope that this event continues to show the people of Cleveland what a great building it once was and money is set aside to continue to upgrade and improve it's facilities.

Really?

Not from me they don't.  MTS threatened me and told me I'd be in big trouble if I took pictures inside.  I didn't even bring a camera in, although I should have, security wasn't exactly all that tight going in.

 

Smart boy!

Someone slipped in...

Red Hot Chili Peppers Higher Ground Rock N Roll Hall Of Fame Induction Finale Cleveland 4-14-12

I'm sure you're all watching yourselves on TV right now.  You might see some forumers.  ;)

Terry Stewart to announce plans to retire as CEO of Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

By TIMOTHY MAGAW

 

 

Terry Stewart, president and CEO of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum, is expected to announce his retirement later today, according to an email sent to community leaders.

 

Mr. Stewart, who has served as the Rock Hall's chief executive for the last 13 years, said in an email he will retire by the end of 2013.

 

“Where will it take me next? I honestly don't know yet, but, as usual, I intend to have a lot of fun at whatever I end up doing,” Mr. Stewart said in the e-mail.

 

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120511/FREE/120519952

 

Not too bad at all for her first visit to Cleveland:

 

Rock Hall welcomes 9 millionth visitor Monday

Published: Monday, October 08, 2012, 3:32 PM      By Laura DeMarco, The Plain Dealer The Plain Dealer

 

Judy Herlihy of Rochester, N.Y., had the spotlight turned on her when she entered the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum at 11:30 a.m. Monday.

 

Herlihy, a recent retiree and avid music fan, was the 9 millionth visitor to enter the hall. The New York state resident, who was paying her first visit to Cleveland, was feted with 500 balloons that fell to greet her.

 

In addition to the balloons and time in the spotlight, Herlihy was awarded a Lifetime Membership to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum, a VIP vault tour, dinner at the Hard Rock Caf , a Sirius radio subscription and a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 25th Anniversary Merchandise Package.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/music/index.ssf/2012/10/rock_hall_welcomes_9_millionth.html

2013 Nominees

 

http://rockhall.com/inductees/

 

and you can vote

 

http://rockhall.com/get-involved/interact/poll/

 

I thought the total visitor count would be higher than 9 million. Good news regardless.

a part of me kinda wants rush to never get in so i can hear people say what a farce the rock hall is

Not a very strong list IMO.  Certainly no Guns'N'Roses or Beastie Boys on the list like last year.