From earlier this week

Took this yesterday while getting some coffee.

A couple of shots in the past few days.  One is not from the commercial hub but from across the golf course in the back.  I kind of like its presence up against the green space. Other is from this morning on Snowvember with the sun peaking through against it

Cool shot. And l love the colors.

My first view heading east. 

^I wish this and Bridgeworks could switch places.

14 minutes ago, freethink said:

^I wish this and Bridgeworks could switch places.

What do you have against Shaker Hts.😉  I wouldn't wish the current iteration of Bridgeworks on Streetsboro let alone Shaker.

On 10/13/2023 at 1:29 AM, oat3333 said:

From earlier this week

 

its funny, but of all rando places we’re in booming brisbane, australia right now, which is building like crazy due to growth and olympics prep, and those last two shots look like anywhere around in the growing neighborhoods here.

 

i never thought i would see something so modern and urban looking like those type of views in suburban ohio.

 

however, the first shot definitely does not look like anything here though, so yeah, still a ways to go, but the progress is real. 👍

57 minutes ago, mrnyc said:

 

its funny, but of all rando places we’re in booming brisbane, australia right now, which is building like crazy due to growth and olympics prep, and those last two shots look like anywhere around in the growing neighborhoods here.

 

i never thought i would see something so modern and urban looking like those type of views in suburban ohio.

 

however, the first shot definitely does not look like anything here though, so yeah, still a ways to go, but the progress is real. 👍

Enjoy Australia, I was just in Brisbane in June! Can't agree more with your assessment.

On 11/12/2023 at 4:43 PM, mrnyc said:

 

its funny, but of all rando places we’re in booming brisbane, australia right now, which is building like crazy due to growth and olympics prep, and those last two shots look like anywhere around in the growing neighborhoods here.

 

i never thought i would see something so modern and urban looking like those type of views in suburban ohio.

 

however, the first shot definitely does not look like anything here though, so yeah, still a ways to go, but the progress is real. 👍

The company I work for is based in Brisbane and I’ve been there a couple times. It’s a great city that I don’t think a lot of people are aware of. Construction is everywhere and it’s got a killer skyline. I hope that Cleveland can eventually achieve Brisbane type density.

5 hours ago, jeremyck01 said:

The company I work for is based in Brisbane and I’ve been there a couple times. It’s a great city that I don’t think a lot of people are aware of. Construction is everywhere and it’s got a killer skyline. I hope the Cleveland can eventually achieve Brisbane type density.

 

yes its rather remote, unsung and a nice/summery/casual city that is booming — it will be much more visible by their 2032 olympics, which they are already prepping hard for. i’ll do some brissy and melbourne (melbin!) threads eventually when i get back — w/fiji bonus.

 

but anyway back on topic the look of van aken is a very attractive and modern world city -ish look that is refreshing to see  — and around van aken is a great place for more of it.

From a week ago (maintaining workplace safety, photo while stopped at a light) 😂

12/23/2023

Sorry these aren't better, it was a cold day on two wheels haha

 

 

 

Stopped to get some coffee and snapped this.

Wow. Having grown up in Shaker and always wanted to see that area redeveloped with density… looks great.

Coffee after work today.

Will probably be the most expensive rentals in Cleveland

Other than the obvious answer of financing, do we have a reason why the Arcadia development hasn't started yet across Warrensville Rd? I just drove by this weekend and still nothing...

I spend a lot of time at the VAD and see the progress on the apartment building, but just saw the sneaky parking garage popping up while at lunch

From a couple days ago when I got my coffee before a workout.

The Raye has finally updated its website to include all the floor plans with starting prices for the apartments.  As I suspected, and probably for good reason given the quality of design, amenities and location, prices are up there, especially if you want any significant square footage.  The quoted prices are "starting prices" so I imagine the number increases as you get higher up in the building.  Of course, while the units are pricey for Cleveland, a New Yorker would be jumping up and down if they could get a one or two bedroom with a balcony for the quoted prices.

Edited June 14, 20241 yr by Htsguy

Wow -- the prices START at $3 per square foot!  EAST1407 with 641 square feet lists at $2,455 or $3.83 / SF.

 

https://rayeliving.com/

 

Anyone know of a building in Cleveland more pricey than this? Maybe the upper floors of the Lumen?

^I still remember the conversations about 6-7 years ago when those on the forum in the industry told us that there was no new high rise construction in Cleveland because developers could not charge $2 per square foot in our market.  Things have really changed in a short period of time.

2 hours ago, KJP said:

Wow -- the prices START at $3 per square foot!  EAST1407 with 641 square feet lists at $2,455 or $3.83 / SF.

 

https://rayeliving.com/

 

Anyone know of a building in Cleveland more pricey than this? Maybe the upper floors of the Lumen?

These prices are insane. It's supposedly a TOD site, but the NEO people who can afford these units are people who will likely never use public transit. I hope I'm wrong. 

 

2 hours ago, Htsguy said:

^I still remember the conversations about 6-7 years ago when those on the forum in the industry told us that there was no new high rise construction in Cleveland because developers could not charge $2 per square foot in our market.  Things have really changed in a short period of time.

A speaker in my real estate finance class at CSU back in 2014ish thought the new East Bank apartments would struggle a lot because no one in Cleveland would rent an apartment for $2 per sq ft.

 

 

He also said he doubted Nucleus would ever be built, or anywhere near their initial designs, because Cleveland has no condo market.

 

 

So I guess he was 1/2 on the day. 

6 hours ago, PlanCleveland said:

These prices are insane. It's supposedly a TOD site, but the NEO people who can afford these units are people who will likely never use public transit. I hope I'm wrong. 

 

A speaker in my real estate finance class at CSU back in 2014ish thought the new East Bank apartments would struggle a lot because no one in Cleveland would rent an apartment for $2 per sq ft.

 

 

He also said he doubted Nucleus would ever be built, or anywhere near their initial designs, because Cleveland has no condo market.

 

 

So I guess he was 1/2 on the day. 

There are PLENTY of older apartment buildings in walking distance of VAD that are much more reasonably priced. By having these large new builds, people with money can live in the new apartment and not compete with less wealthy potential renters for the older apartments, keeping the latter more affordable. We need a VAD on every RTA parking lot to help address housing shortages. 

36 minutes ago, Boomerang_Brian said:

There are PLENTY of older apartment buildings in walking distance of VAD that are much more reasonably priced. By having these large new builds, people with money can live in the new apartment and not complete with less wealthy potential renters for the older apartments, keeping the latter more affordable. We need a VAD on every RTA parking lot to help address housing shortages. 

You're right, I think I just got some initial stick shock and forgot about reality. 

3 hours ago, KJP said:

Wow -- the prices START at $3 per square foot!  EAST1407 with 641 square feet lists at $2,455 or $3.83 / SF.

 

https://rayeliving.com/

 

Anyone know of a building in Cleveland more pricey than this? Maybe the upper floors of the Lumen?

We looked at a 3 bed/ 2 bath when The Lumen first opened. IIRC they were asking about $6k for 1,700 sq ft, so around $3.50 sq ft. I think it was either one or two floors below the penthouse. 

Congratulations to the Ratners for this world class building that will attract snowbirds back to Cleveland during the Florida off=season and keep empty nesters in the area.  If upscale hi-rise housing is not available in the Cleveland area, people will leave the area entirely and find someplace else to live that does.  The success of this development will likely lead to future phases of Van Aken District, including other types of multifamily housing catering to other income levels as well as other office, retail and recreational uses that further TOD goals.   

After a couple beers.

Really like how this is turning out... (6-30-24)

Edited June 30, 2024Jun 30 by sonisharri

On 6/14/2024 at 5:00 PM, Sapientone said:

Congratulations to the Ratners for this world class building that will attract snowbirds back to Cleveland during the Florida off=season and keep empty nesters in the area.  If upscale hi-rise housing is not available in the Cleveland area, people will leave the area entirely and find someplace else to live that does.  The success of this development will likely lead to future phases of Van Aken District, including other types of multifamily housing catering to other income levels as well as other office, retail and recreational uses that further TOD goals.   

 

Van Aken - Cleveland's own Assembly Square.

 

Assembly Square Plan - Somerville, MA

 

 

16 hours ago, ASP1984 said:

 

Van Aken - Cleveland's own Assembly Square.

 

Assembly Square Plan - Somerville, MA

 

 

 

I love Assembly Square and both are awesome TOD, but Van Aken lacks the scope of retail and greenspace (to be fair it also lacks the $4000+ rents). It would be great to see something like Assembly in Cleveland though, maybe through later phases - especially if they can attract some national retail brands and a hotel. Or maybe the redeveloped Severance or Richmond Town Square will take that place, though they're missing the transit connections Van Aken has. 

 

As a side note, it's totally worth visiting Assembly Square if you happen to be in the Boston area - they have some good restaurants and a pretty cool riverfront. It's a great example of what new mixed use development can look like, and proves that there's a much better alternative to half-dead indoor malls. 

Edited July 2, 2024Jul 2 by sonisharri

29 minutes ago, sonisharri said:

 

I love Assembly Square and both are awesome TOD, but Van Aken lacks the scope of retail and greenspace (to be fair it also lacks the $4000+ rents). It would be great to see something like Assembly in Cleveland though, maybe through later phases - especially if they can attract some national retail brands and a hotel. Or maybe the redeveloped Severance or Richmond Town Square will take that place, though they're missing the transit connections Van Aken has. 

 

As a side note, it's totally worth visiting Assembly Square if you happen to be in the Boston area - they have some good restaurants and a pretty cool riverfront. It's a great example of what new mixed use development can look like, and proves that there's a much better alternative to half-dead indoor malls. 

 

You're right, it has $6,000+ rents 😧

 

three bathrooms in a 2 bedroom apt? well, i guess the den could be a third bedroom.

9 hours ago, mrnyc said:

three bathrooms in a 2 bedroom apt? well, i guess the den could be a third bedroom.

Looks like one of them is a half bath or powder room.  More for use by guests so they don't see the mess in the every day bath room used by residents.

Construction elevator coming down today.

That's a VERY cool-looking building

Dunno if it's worth it to keep discussing, but any updates on the Arcadia site across Warrensville? Feels like it should've started by now... especially since a financing deal was set in 2023.

6 hours ago, Geowizical said:

Dunno if it's worth it to keep discussing, but any updates on the Arcadia site across Warrensville? Feels like it should've started by now... especially since a financing deal was set in 2023.

I work across the street from it and saw some pickup trucks and staking equipment on the lot this week. I forgot to snap a picture, but will try the next time I'm on the office if they're still there next week. Haven't seen or heard anything beyond that unfortunately.

8 hours ago, Ethan said:

I feel like this area has a lot of real TOD potential but won't reach its full potential until we get our unified system. Being able to take a train from Stokes straight to Van Aken is game changing and hopefully is implemented ASAP. Right now, it's too cumbersome and time consuming to take a Red Line to the Light rail here, I may as well drive.

Despite pretty high rents, this building has the potential to fill up quickly given it location and quality.  I hope this encourages the developer to start working on the lot at the corner of Warrensville and Chagrin sooner rather than later.  It is really the missing piece that would make this project even more transformative for the area and may even encourage ancillary development on Warrensville.

On 7/24/2024 at 3:07 PM, Geowizical said:

Dunno if it's worth it to keep discussing, but any updates on the Arcadia site across Warrensville? Feels like it should've started by now... especially since a financing deal was set in 2023.

I Would love an update as well. I have passed by it many times in the past few weeks. It looks like a quiet, fenced in field. If you didn't know there was a development planned there nothing about the site would clue you in. 

van aken gets some insta love — 👍

 

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DAyhpIoygl-/?igsh=dTRoZjFoeGd4eHVm

2 hours ago, mrnyc said:

van aken gets some insta love — 👍

 

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DAyhpIoygl-/?igsh=dTRoZjFoeGd4eHVm

 

Some of the comments are....interesting lol. It seems as if the many decades of suburban tract housing has created a generation of mindless knee jerk anti-planning government-hating 'Merican patriots. 

1 hour ago, surfohio said:

 

Some of the comments are....interesting lol. It seems as if the many decades of suburban tract housing has created a generation of mindless knee jerk anti-planning government-hating 'Merican patriots. 

 

perhaps, but remember most negative commentary on major forums like instagram is foreign dissention meddling and trolling. its particularly rampant on this run up to the election per the news lately. some of its pretty comical — ie.,“this looks an awful lot like communism,” etc.. 

13 hours ago, surfohio said:

 

Some of the comments are....interesting lol. It seems as if the many decades of suburban tract housing has created a generation of mindless knee jerk anti-planning government-hating 'Merican patriots. 

 

Really anything but suburban tract housing in Shaker.  Most of the criticism that I saw prior to construction was related to the scale compared to its immediate surroundings (which I didn't disagree with, though we needed this scale within VAD or at the corner of Chagrin and Warrensville), or that it didn't fit in with the "tudor/guilded age nature of Shaker.  I think that's when the developer indicated the lines on the building were to mimic tudor beams, which was likely a bit of a stretch.   

1 hour ago, willyboy said:

 

Really anything but suburban tract housing in Shaker.  Most of the criticism that I saw prior to construction was related to the scale compared to its immediate surroundings (which I didn't disagree with, though we needed this scale within VAD or at the corner of Chagrin and Warrensville), or that it didn't fit in with the "tudor/guilded age nature of Shaker.  I think that's when the developer indicated the lines on the building were to mimic tudor beams, which was likely a bit of a stretch.   

 

I was only referring to the comments on Instagram. There seemed to be a vocal minority against residential & retail planning that looked scary and different to them. These were people from Edward Scissorhands suburbs, rural exurbs or Russia lol, clearly not from Shaker.