Posted December 3, 200816 yr :-) DOTZAUER- That's the last name of my relatives who moved from the Alps in Bavaria (Bayern) to Cincinnati, Ohio; I was born there in 1941, the 5th generation. Since 1955, I've lived in Florida as our parents moved. Most of us are from two people, Apallonia and Johann; around 1839. They moved to 823 (or 656)York street; what's there now? This is in Cincinnati, not Ky. I've tried to find that street since Apollnia apparently paid $2000.00 for the property she lived in; I can only find it on the map of Cincinnati - near the Ohio River, kid of West. Apparently, all the Dotzauers lived in Cumminsville - now called Northside - also on Hamilton Parkway. Anyone? Thanks. sh
December 3, 200816 yr Also, 4145 Langland, in Northside; this was the address of my fraternal grandfather. Seems he lived just a short walk away from his daughter, my aunt, who lived on Weigold Ave., but I didn't know that at the time; I was a product of a people who didn't talk much about their families in those days - yes, the Germans. My Mother was of British heritage, and all she did was talk about parents. They came from England, as young adults and met in Cincinnati; they married in 1897. Imagine that! They all lived North of Spring Grove; they're mostly all buried there. Never knew my grandparents from either side. Thanks, again. sh
December 4, 200816 yr ^ it might be possible to find the street address and post a pix of it? I've offered to do this for geneological researchers looking into Dayton locations, but Cincy is a bti of a drive.
December 4, 200816 yr 823 York Street is a 2 story brick building in the West End neighborhood of Cincinnati. According the the Hamilton County Auditor, it was built in 1865. Records back to 1938 do not indicate any Dotzauers. 4545 Langland is a 2 and one half story house in the Cincinnati neighborhood of Northside. According to the Hamilton County Auditor, it was owned by Mary Dotzauer in 1938. The property was transferred to Andrew J. Dotzauer on 3-18-1938. It was transferred to Marie F Hettrick, Alma W Hettrick, and Andrew F Dotzauer on 2-3-1940. It was transferred to Ignatz and Susanna Romer on 12-3-1941.
December 4, 200816 yr Thank you! At long last I have a photo of my grandparents' home! Can't wait to share it with my two sisters - they will really be surprised, and thankful as I am! I've visted this site for over a year now, and I've really enjoyed seeing the various photos of Cincinnati - especially the really old ones as they apply to my childhood, and others - like the steps that continually go down the inclines - apply to my ancestors. They have been a part of Cinti.'s history, which I've never seen before. I remember well the old buildings, and I used to take the bus from Parkview Heights to Northside and/or downtown and/or transfer here and there - I thought nothing of it back in early '50's; now I see what I knew. We had realtives of my mother's family (the Ashforth familes of Winton Place, and of course the girls married, so those last names); I could easily ride my bike here and there, but NOT downtown. Thanks again! sdh
December 4, 200816 yr Jeffrey - I looked up Apollina (on York) as (1870) with 114 in one column, and 155 in the next, and her property is listed as $2,000, a mighty big amount in those days. She was 66 years old on that listing; she is buried in Wesleyan. John George Dotzauer(1880), her son and his family; they both read, "York Street". Could be that the records don't go that far back. Andrew John Dotzauer was married to Mary (Letto) Dotzauer. My dad was Andrew Frederick, with sisters Marie - she then lived on Donaldson place, with her husband Stan Hettrick (I don't remember the address), and they moved to 1438 Weigold Ave. (that's why I remember Knowlton's Corner and Northside so much) - Alma lived in Connecticut; she never married, but moved to Marie's on Weigold when she retired. So goes the saga of that side of the Dotzauers. Of Course there were many Dotzauers up till then, and they all were from Apollonia and Johann who migrated from Bavaria. Was that part of, "the Rhine"? sdh
December 6, 200816 yr Look at this page: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohhamilt/misccumminsville.html This is the index of a book on Cumminsville from 1914. My mom has a copy because that is where she was raised. I haven't seen it in a while, but it mostly listed all the businesses and had historic photos. I saw Dotzauers listed in the index. http://www.northside.net/ I always though Cumminsville refered to southern part of Northside around the area of St Pius church on Dreman Avenue at Borden. That was my family's parish and they always called it Cumminsville, but everyone else called the area around Knowlton's corner, Northside. I later found out that the area around St. Pius is called South Cumminsville and Northside is the same as Cumminsville. I'm not sure why the name was changed, but I maybe some of it had to do with I-74 cutting the southern part of the neighborhood off from the rest.
December 6, 200816 yr Cumminsville was basically just rebranded in the 70s into Northside. It eventually got something of a negative name.
December 7, 200816 yr Cumminville was named after an early settler. Cumminsville was its own corporation before being annexed by the City of Cincinnati. The Cincinnati, Hamilton, and Dayton Railroad (Not I-74) bisected Cumminsville, splitting it into North and South Cumminsville. North Cumminsville became known as Northside, short for "North side of the tracks," and South Cumminsville remains South Cumminsville. The railroad has been abandoned, and I-74 has become the practical, if not official, boundary. My grandfather still called it "Cumminsville" until his death at age 90 in 2002. He grew up in what is now called "South Cumminsville."
December 8, 200816 yr "dumerkow" We left Cinti. in 1955 = and it was still w/o garages and still a barrage of bungalow, Quee Ann, and other type houses. I think you mean 1970, right? That's a short period of time. I think it's come back up now, hasn't it? It was fine to me just the way it was in 1955. sh
December 8, 200816 yr :-) Jskinner = Thanks for the websites; probably the Dotzauers that contributed to the first one (at least the Phillip) were uncles of mine. Lots of knowledge there! sh
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