December 18, 200816 yr I went to high school in the early 2000's, and I can't say things were much better. The vast majority of hot chicks at my high school just wore hoodies or pajamas (hot in a "I don't give a sh!t" sort of way). School started at 7:30am. It's not like kids had time to dress up. Seriously, most days, not a single girl in my class would dress "sexy". I seem to remember the school uniform of the early 2000's being pool slides+pajama bottoms+hoodie. This is just awful. I can't stand it. It makes me want to vomit. I went to high school in the '90s, and a girl would be drawn and quartered socially for pulling a stunt like that. I don't care if a girl has good bone structure in her face and a nice body, if she is in public looking like that (besides at the laundromat or getting a quick pack of morning smokes) she is NOT hot.
December 18, 200816 yr I didn't appreciate that being in high school during those peak Nirvana years, all the girls wore 3 layers of sweaters and generally dressed like they had grandkids. Now the high school girls dress like hookers. I know this because my brother just graduated. Wouldn't have minded the 70s or 80s... wouldn't have minded the modern era, but no no I got to go to high school just in time for the Kurt Cobain misery tour. Thanks for taking all the fun out of rock music, Kurt. Exactly. When I was in college, all the girls were wearing grunge. After college, I was out of the country for a few years. I came back and everyone was wearing tight black stuff and toting around cell phones.
December 18, 200816 yr +1 MTV has made itself unwatchable. I watched MTV 2 since they used to play a lot of 90's music and shows, now it is just a place where they replay their current shows over and over and over and over. The Crow was on MTV not once, but twice Monday evening and late Monday night.
December 19, 200816 yr No, this is the best video created in the 90s. If I do say so myself. ;) Nothing like a video with a touch of Cleveland flava! What's the Cleveland flava? Was it shot here?
December 20, 200816 yr ^Ugh...Starter jackets. I had three of them: Charlotte Hornets (No fucking clue why...), Ohio State, and a Steelers one (dad's from Pittsburgh and these were the days before I followed football and became a die hard Bengals fan).
December 22, 200816 yr People were getting jumped and killed over Starter jackets. It's funny because they were really poorly made to begin with - just marketed well. Nike and Reebok were by far a better brand.
December 22, 200816 yr ^You're reading my mind - the only thing that comes to mind when someone says "Starter Jacket" is 'oh yeah, people were getting shot all the time in Youngstown for those. It didn't faze me or my friends - we wore black from head to toe, usually from thrift shops. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
December 22, 200816 yr I had a New York Knicks one in junior high. I didn't care for the Knicks one bit, but it was difficult to find one of a team that I actually liked. Now with the Internet, you can buy any piece of clothing of any sports team without any problem.
December 22, 200816 yr ^You're reading my mind - the only thing that comes to mind when someone says "Starter Jacket" is 'oh yeah, people were getting shot all the time in Youngstown for those. It didn't faze me or my friends - we wore black from head to toe, usually from thrift shops. Now it's funny how little prominence that brand has and, even more so, the jackets. They sell them in KMart now, I believe.
December 22, 200816 yr ^You're reading my mind - the only thing that comes to mind when someone says "Starter Jacket" is 'oh yeah, people were getting shot all the time in Youngstown for those. It didn't faze me or my friends - we wore black from head to toe, usually from thrift shops. You were such a beatnik chic! lol
December 22, 200816 yr ^You're reading my mind - the only thing that comes to mind when someone says "Starter Jacket" is 'oh yeah, people were getting shot all the time in Youngstown for those. It didn't faze me or my friends - we wore black from head to toe, usually from thrift shops. Now it's funny how little prominence that brand has and, even more so, the jackets. They sell them in KMart now, I believe. They were bought out by Value City if that tells you anything!
December 22, 200816 yr ^You're reading my mind - the only thing that comes to mind when someone says "Starter Jacket" is 'oh yeah, people were getting shot all the time in Youngstown for those. It didn't faze me or my friends - we wore black from head to toe, usually from thrift shops. Now it's funny how little prominence that brand has and, even more so, the jackets. They sell them in KMart now, I believe. They were bought out by Value City if that tells you anything! Who was bought by VC? Starter?
December 22, 200816 yr ^You're reading my mind - the only thing that comes to mind when someone says "Starter Jacket" is 'oh yeah, people were getting shot all the time in Youngstown for those. It didn't faze me or my friends - we wore black from head to toe, usually from thrift shops. Now it's funny how little prominence that brand has and, even more so, the jackets. They sell them in KMart now, I believe. They had that creepy commercial where Jerry Van Dyke danced around whispering "Starter" at the camera.
December 22, 200816 yr They were bought out by Value City if that tells you anything! Yikes! And down goes VC. haha
December 22, 200816 yr ^You're reading my mind - the only thing that comes to mind when someone says "Starter Jacket" is 'oh yeah, people were getting shot all the time in Youngstown for those. It didn't faze me or my friends - we wore black from head to toe, usually from thrift shops. Now it's funny how little prominence that brand has and, even more so, the jackets. They sell them in KMart now, I believe. They were bought out by Value City if that tells you anything! Who was bought by VC? Starter? Yes surr. Well, they went bankrupt. VC bought out all of their apparel. Funny because Starter used to be sold at some pretty high end places.
December 22, 200816 yr ^You're reading my mind - the only thing that comes to mind when someone says "Starter Jacket" is 'oh yeah, people were getting shot all the time in Youngstown for those. It didn't faze me or my friends - we wore black from head to toe, usually from thrift shops. Now it's funny how little prominence that brand has and, even more so, the jackets. They sell them in KMart now, I believe. They were bought out by Value City if that tells you anything! Who was bought by VC? Starter? Yes surr. Well, they went bankrupt. VC bought out all of their apparel. Funny because Starter used to be sold at some pretty high end places. Lord....what a tacky mess. ;)
December 22, 200816 yr They were bought out by Value City if that tells you anything! Yikes! And down goes VC. haha I know, right? It's like Starter perpetuated a giant vortex that got sucked into a black hole.
December 23, 200816 yr >hey were really poorly made to begin with - just marketed well The starter jacket trend was just one more stupid, expensive fad. I wore uniforms in grade school and the rest of my life has been a sometimes exhausting search for clothes with no logo on them. Also I remember people always getting the expansion team jackets and hats, which was totally stupid. Actually going back to 1990 when the Reds won the World Series, A's hats were the most popular hats at my school. Then the Reds swept the A's but the A's people kept saying they were better. Well they were better at juicing and nobody calling them out on it.
December 23, 200816 yr ^ Ahahaha, I used to buy expansion team stuff for no real reason - Sharks, Rockies, Hornets.
December 24, 200816 yr The decade of the Drag Queen! Drag queens became household names. If you wanted your party/event to be a sucess you needed to invite 10 drag queens. I love this video, even today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J2uTwWw-iw
December 24, 200816 yr Thanks. I'm always looking for a good 90s drag queen video to add to my bookmarks.
December 25, 200816 yr Thanks. I'm always looking for a good 90s drag queen video to add to my bookmarks. Lord...you kids
December 27, 200816 yr ^ Ahahaha, I used to buy expansion team stuff for no real reason - Sharks, Rockies, Hornets. ^ Carolina Panthers and Jacksonville Jaguars All of those teams had a variation of ''North Carolina' blue and turquoise in there logos/theme with the exception of the rockies. It was a hot color for the 90's, and it shows in the sports teams of the decade.
January 4, 201015 yr I don't think Testament and Metallica want to hear a bunch of guys tell them the pants they wore in the late '80s and early '90s were fashion don'ts! the late 80s/early 90s were a hot fashion mess themselves. Those guys were just skinny drug users in tight jeans. None of them had any resemblance of a shape, they were all just bean poles. When I was old enough to start caring about what I was wearing it was probably around 1995-96. Fashion seemed more "grass roots". The top dogs in the industry were looking heavily to the streets for influence. Calvin Klein, Hilfiger, Armani took notice. Armani (I think it was) even had some grunge influence in their line. The clothes weren't as glamourous - but that was the point. To me, that's what marks the 90s (and maybe beyond). It's ambiguous, what's considered professional and casual. Or even what's considered acceptable. In 17th-18th century London and France, fashion was a way of letting you know where people stand, in public. Dressing a certain way meant someone was of a certain social status and approachable/not approachable. It seems like it matters less that we dress a certain way but I don't think that says anything about increasing equality. We might just use language patterns or something else to differentiate ourselves. I played a lot of basketball and baseball when I was younger so I wore a lot of Nike, Reebok, nylon pants and t shirts in the 90s. Later on it was Tommy and Nautica. Usually air jordan shoes or air max. I remember having a Starter Jacket too when I was really young. Also, it seems like anything on the fringe could easily become much more mainstream in the 90s. (Maybe that goes for post-1991 culture in general) I think this carries on today. Seattle Grunge, for example. Or, look at Hush Puppies. Right when they were about to be phased out from extremely low sales, you had a huge resurgence in '94 because a few people were wearing them in a hot NYC club. I think that's what makes my generation different from older ones. With "pagers", "cell phones", 'txting'', ''fax'', "internet", etc., we are exposed to more, have access to what's going on everywhere else and have the ability to get a lot of people's attention. We're a generation full of bottom-up micro-epidemics. The sky is the limit as far as who or what can be popular. You know what else is stuck in my mind about the '90s? Those Calvin Klein 'Heroin Chic' ads. "Obsession". I think visually, they marked a deadness, coldness, apathy, self-absorbtion and narcissism you see with my generation starting then. It was almost like he had a premonition. That was also a big theme in '70s Sociology books reflecting that era. You can tell just by the mannerisms in early '90s tv and advertising - blank expression, hands or thumb in pocket. It reminds me of so much of the 'stark' attitude I see in the 'early 70s from watching movies from that time period. The late '70s and 80s seemed much happier and flamboyant but I wasn't there to say for sure, clearly. I wonder what older people think about all that. Hey Gcrites, how old are you? You remind me so much of my dad and uncle, man. They dress and act like early metal heads. Black boots, tight blue jeans, tight black shirts. The black t shirt is usually from some concert he went to. My uncle is always working (living) in his garage rebuilding classic car engines and putting together his Harleys, listening to Classic and 80s rock. He's like the blatant stereotype lol
January 4, 201015 yr Let's see... I was in high school during the 90s and there's a couple of things I haven't seen posted yet- -Beavis and Butthead. Part of MTV's addition to the 90s besides the beginnings of reality tv. It was amazing to see the impact that this cartoon had on kids when the cartoon was big. -Bone Thugs. Cleveland's own. The effect this group had on hip-hop and R&B is undeniable, though the group does not get the respect (in my opinion) they deserve. Just about every group/artist since has used their style of flow since. The group put Cleveland on the hip-hop map. Also the only group to work with most of hip-hop's elite, including Eazy E, Big Pun, Biggie Smalls and Tupac. -Sports Team Jerseys (also made by Starter, among other brands). I had em, my friends had them, we all had em. -Fubu. Besides Phat Farm, Fubu blew up in the 90s as well. I'm sure everyone on this board has seen someone wearing a Fubu jersey with "05" on the front and back of it somewhere. As quickly as they came is as quickly as the jerseys went out of fashion. I must admit that I had one as well. -Jerry Springer. This was the one show a kid could come home after school and watch strippers on. -Michael Jordan. Everyone wanted to be like Mike, and everyone had to have a pair of J's. Yes, he was on the Bulls during the 80s as well, but it was in the 90s when he was part of the "Dream Team", along with winning his 6 NBA titles with the Chicago Bulls. People would go as far as killing someone over a pair of these shoes.
January 4, 201015 yr I don't think Testament and Metallica want to hear a bunch of guys tell them the pants they wore in the late '80s and early '90s were fashion don'ts! the late 80s/early 90s were a hot fashion mess themselves. Those guys were just skinny drug users in tight jeans. None of them had any resemblance of a shape, they were all just bean poles. When I was old enough to start caring about what I was wearing it was probably around 1995-96. Fashion seemed more "grass roots". The top dogs in the industry were looking heavily to the streets for influence. Calvin Klein, Hilfiger, Armani took notice. Armani (I think it was) even had some grunge influence in their line. The clothes weren't as glamourous - but that was the point. To me, that's what marks the 90s (and maybe beyond). It's ambiguous, what's considered professional and casual. Or even what's considered acceptable. In 17th-18th century London and France, fashion was a way of letting you know where people stand, in public. Dressing a certain way meant someone was of a certain social status and approachable/not approachable. It seems like it matters less that we dress a certain way but I don't think that says anything about increasing equality. We might just use language patterns or something else to differentiate ourselves. I played a lot of basketball and baseball when I was younger so I wore a lot of Nike, Reebok, nylon pants and t shirts in the 90s. Later on it was Tommy and Nautica. Usually air jordan shoes or air max. I remember having a Starter Jacket too when I was really young. Also, it seems like anything on the fringe could easily become much more mainstream in the 90s. (Maybe that goes for post-1991 culture in general) I think this carries on today. Seattle Grunge, for example. Or, look at Hush Puppies. Right when they were about to be phased out from extremely low sales, you had a huge resurgence in '94 because a few people were wearing them in a hot NYC club. I think that's what makes my generation different from older ones. With "pagers", "cell phones", 'txting'', ''fax'', "internet", etc., we are exposed to more, have access to what's going on everywhere else and have the ability to get a lot of people's attention. We're a generation full of bottom-up micro-epidemics. The sky is the limit as far as who or what can be popular. You know what else is stuck in my mind about the '90s? Those Calvin Klein 'Heroin Chic' ads. "Obsession". I think visually, they marked a deadness, coldness, apathy, self-absorbtion and narcissism you see with my generation starting then. It was almost like he had a premonition. That was also a big theme in '70s Sociology books reflecting that era. You can tell just by the mannerisms in early '90s tv and advertising - blank expression, hands or thumb in pocket. It reminds me of so much of the 'stark' attitude I see in the 'early 70s from watching movies from that time period. The late '70s and 80s seemed much happier and flamboyant but I wasn't there to say for sure, clearly. I wonder what older people think about all that. Hey Gcrites, how old are you? You remind me so much of my dad and uncle, man. They dress and act like early metal heads. Black boots, tight blue jeans, tight black shirts. The black t shirt is usually from some concert he went to. My uncle is always working (living) in his garage rebuilding classic car engines and putting together his Harleys, listening to Classic and 80s rock. He's like the blatant stereotype lol Honey, Calvin Klein (although I dont wear that crap) and Armani do not belong in the same sentence as "hilfiger". That sh*t! Grunge? No designer looked to the street but Patrick Kelley! Then Todd Oldam, Isaac M and Theirry Mugler brought street chic after Patrick's death and the formation of the fab four supermodels (Linda, Naomi, Christy, Cindy). Tom Ford then turned around Gucci and Marc Jacobs copied all their work. I love the Calvin Klein commercials, however, SNLs paradoys were WAAAAAY BETTER! Speaking of the 90s thats when SNL was hillarious.
January 4, 201015 yr They did too look to the streets. You're wrong. I know that from credible sources and have better things to do than look all that up but you are wrong :-P
January 4, 201015 yr They did too look to the streets. You're wrong. I know that from credible sources and have better things to do than look all that up but you are wrong :P You're going to tell ME about fashion?! What is wrong with that picture?? Tommy Hilfiger is not fashion. It's a boring brand for people with very little taste or creativity!
January 4, 201015 yr They did too look to the streets. You're wrong. I know that from credible sources and have better things to do than look all that up but you are wrong :P You're going to tell ME about fashion?! What is wrong with that picture?? Tommy Hilfiger is not fashion. It's a boring brand for people with very little taste or creativity! Yeah, just like you telling ME what women are "hot" or "not all that" :roll:
January 4, 201015 yr They did too look to the streets. You're wrong. I know that from credible sources and have better things to do than look all that up but you are wrong :P You're going to tell ME about fashion?! What is wrong with that picture?? Tommy Hilfiger is not fashion. It's a boring brand for people with very little taste or creativity! Yeah, just like you telling ME what women are "hot" or "not all that" ::) Thats because I can pull the hotties....one both sides of the fence! ;)
January 4, 201015 yr Tommy Hilfiger is not fashion. It's a boring brand for people with very little taste or creativity! It was in the mid-late '90s. It sucks now. At the time they were on the runway along with all the other top designers and were quite innovative. There were a few distinctions; I think Tommy's choice of color (or plaid) and one leg length being longer than the other which I admit is retarded. Their suites were more casual. At the time, people weren't spending as much money so the top designers had to come up with cheaper products and focus more on selling accessories rather than expensive garments. That's probably still true to some extent. For example, even today, the average medium income person is more likely to buy an Ed Hardy belt than pay 200 bucks for the matching pants. Not that Ed Hardy is Armani by any means but you get the point. Top fashion became kind of watered down, bastardized, and more emphasis on cheap accessories to keep the companies going during that time.
January 4, 201015 yr I'm no virtuoso but I've read a few books on '90s culture, including fashion, lived through it and have a friend in fashion design for what that's worth. I'm kind of surprised to see Tommy still around at dept stores. Tommy is the new Izod. lol!
January 4, 201015 yr I love the Calvin Klein commercials, however, SNLs paradoys were WAAAAAY BETTER! Speaking of the 90s thats when SNL was hillarious. I can't turn the speakers on at work. When did they start having the stark black and white commercials with heroin junkie models? lol I remember them from the early or mid 90s. It probably would have been after those supermodels you mentioned right?
January 4, 201015 yr Tommy Hilfiger is not fashion. It's a boring brand for people with very little taste or creativity! It was in the mid-late '90s. It sucks now. At the time they were on the runway along with all the other top designers and were quite innovative. There were a few distinctions; I think Tommy's choice of color (or plaid) and one leg length being longer than the other which I admit is retarded. Their suites were more casual. At the time, people weren't spending as much money so the top designers had to come up with cheaper products and focus more on selling accessories rather than expensive garments. That's probably still true to some extent. For example, even today, the average medium income person is more likely to buy an Ed Hardy belt than pay 200 bucks for the matching pants. Not that Ed Hardy is Armani by any means but you get the point. Top fashion became kind of watered down, bastardized, and more emphasis on cheap accessories to keep the companies going during that time. Dear im talking about the 90s. It was crap then and it's crap now. ::) Tommy hilfiger is not a creator nor innovator. It was a bad knockoff version of Polo aimed at urban youth. Also in regard to brands, its called brand expansion and evolution. Brands knew that people wanted their items, but not all could afford so the best thing was to make mid level (bridge) lines. Just a few notes. Prada launched miu miu. Dolce and Gabana intorduced D&G Calvin Klein introduced CK The Gap revamped the Banana Republic line into a modern hip line for the college young adult market and kept the GAP simple. Yet introduced, lifestyle lines in the GAP product line that would appeal to every generation. Then they introduced the Old Navy for those that couldn't afford banana republic, but liked the ever changing mix-and-match items. Ralph Lauren went polo and introduce the (high end) purple label. Marc Jacob is the new Calvin Klein in terms of off brands and lines that are specifically target a certain age/genre. Department stores came out with that had mass appeal. Barney's took the coop department and made it a full fledged stored. Plus they added/increased their own private label brand. Saks introduces Off Fifth, which was initially a lower cost line that failed and sent the merchandise to outlets, then decided to get into the outlet business and names their own stores "off Fifth". Williams Sanoma introduced Pottery Barn, Hold Everything, then Pottery Barn Kids, an in '02 West Elm and slowly closed Hold Everything. Today H&M executes this on a whole different level by asking designers to create limited edition items for their stores. They get an A+ for execution.
January 4, 201015 yr I'm no virtuoso but I've read a few books on '90s culture, including fashion, lived through it and have a friend in fashion design for what that's worth. I'm kind of surprised to see Tommy still around at dept stores. Tommy is the new Izod. lol! The new Izod. Izod has never gone out of style. It was the first brand to have a logo. They've steered a steady course. You're too young to know this but Polo was the first knock off of the Izod logo. in the 80's you had either an Izod polo or Ralph Lauren Polo. RL copied everything , right down to the placement of logo. You're talking to someone who's been a label queen since '79. I bought the first pair of guess jean at the brand new Guess store-in-a-store inside of Saks at beachwood. It was crap then and it's crap now. Tommy hilfiger is not a creator nor innovator. It was a bad knockoff version of Polo aimed at urban youth. MTS and I argue a lot, but I can't argue with that. Honey, we don't argue. You just don't know what you're talking about! LMAO!! So Pottery Barn sells clothes? I thought they sold pottery.
January 4, 201015 yr I'm no virtuoso but I've read a few books on '90s culture, including fashion, lived through it and have a friend in fashion design for what that's worth. I'm kind of surprised to see Tommy still around at dept stores. Tommy is the new Izod. lol! The new Izod. Izod has never gone out of style. It was the first brand to have a logo. They've steered a steady course. Maybe to you. You're like 50.
January 4, 201015 yr I'm no virtuoso but I've read a few books on '90s culture, including fashion, lived through it and have a friend in fashion design for what that's worth. I'm kind of surprised to see Tommy still around at dept stores. Tommy is the new Izod. lol! The new Izod. Izod has never gone out of style. It was the first brand to have a logo. They've steered a steady course. Maybe to you. You're like 50. If I was 50, Id still have it "going on"!
January 4, 201015 yr The only person I've seen wear Izod lately is Kanye West and he's a douchebag. Honey, you really dont understand fashion. Seriously.
January 4, 201015 yr ^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0flkPCiwV3Y That whack ass video. No creativity!
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