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So...building an all-new hospital to replace two perfectly fine hospitals and people wonder why staying in the hospital costs so much.  Seriously, I was in Good Sam a month ago and they amount of money they've spend on rehabbing the interior is ridiculous. 

 

My bet is this thing's either going at I-275's Miamitown Exit or at the I-74 North Bend Rd. exit at the end of Boomer Rd. with visibility from I-74. 

 

Obviously they're going to get some coin from the land sales at both sites, but what a waste of materials, and we'll just see strip malls in their place. 

My bet is this thing's either going at I-275's Miamitown Exit or at the I-74 North Bend Rd. exit at the end of Boomer Rd. with visibility from I-74.

 

I doubt they'll build at 128. There's a whole lot of nothing at 128, and all the land on Harrison down by the Treatment Plant is Flood Plain, currently flooding with an apparent, 2 year frequency.

 

As for North Bend, that's possible. It's also possible that they'll locate on Harrison North of 74, across the street from the strip mall with Take 5. That was supposed to be health care.

So...building an all-new hospital to replace two perfectly fine hospitals and people wonder why staying in the hospital costs so much. 

 

I would agree, but even my mother (who works for Mercy) says the buildings are very outdated and hinders the two hospitals from competing with Pill Hill.  Many serious injuries that happen in the western regions bypass both of these hospitals and that is something they want to change.  These hospitals have gotten the reputation of being where the older folks of the area go to pass.

 

I hate seeing these two buildings futures in question, because the exteriors are in good shape and blend in with the residential areas better than most, but the interiors of these buildings were designed 30+ years ago.  And as we all know, in the healthcare industry that was the stoneage.    I would rather them build somewhere else on the westside rather than LEAVE altogether.   

 

I would rather these two buildings be imploded, rather than turned into what the original St Francis in Fairmount turned into.   

 

I do expect a new hospital to end up somewhere around the Monfort Heights area.  I doubt they will put anything near Rybolt or farther west.  Keep in mind that when (CPS) Gamble Middle/High School in Westwood is torn down, that will free up a large chunk of land.    Other options could include demoing some older retail that has sat vacant and is also outdated.    They won't stray to far from the Glenway corridor though.

Hasn't Good Sam built a mini-hospital along Glenway?

^ More for specialist doctors offices if you do mean the 5 story building across from Western Bowl?

Yep, I thought they were doing outpatient hospitally (word?) stuff there . . .

Yep, I thought they were doing outpatient hospitally (word?) stuff there . . .

 

There are several doctors (including my allergist) in that building.  They do have a center for X-rays, blood work, and more.

Mt. Airy (Providence) is certainly close to 40 years old, but Western Hills (St. Francis-St. George) is not yet 30 years old.

 

It would seem that a new location is desired to improve accessability.  If so, than it would make sense to move farther west, not stay in the Glenway area.

Mercy to build new west-side hospital

BY KURT BACKSCHEIDER | KBACKS

[email protected]

http://news.communitypress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080612/NEWS/806120431/1067/RSS1103

 

WESTWOOD - Mercy Health Partners announced plans to close its hospitals in Western Hills and Mt. Airy.

The board of directors of Mercy Health Partners voted earlier this month to build a new hospital on the west side, combining the services of Mercy Hospital Western Hills and Mercy Hospital Mt. Airy into one facility.

 

Click link for article.

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Mercy picks site for new hospital

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20090130/BIZ01/301300022/1055/NEWS

 

Mercy Health Partners has selected a 60-acre site in Green Township for a new west-side hospital.

 

The site on North Bend Road near Interstate 74 will become the hub of Mercy's west-side network, replacing the acute care services of Mercy's current two hospitals in Westwood and Mount Airy.

 

Click link for article.

Randy, where exactly do you think it will be located?  Traffic is high in that area, hard to imagine easy access for a hospital.

I wonder if the medical offices that are currently connected to the hospital on Boudinot Ave will remain or if they will move as well.  There is also the health club located there as well. 

You must mean the wooded area to the south of that residential street. Those ballfields are St. Ignatious property and I'm quite sure that's not 60 acres big...unless they plan to level the homes and tap into the area to the south.

 

Randy, where exactly do you think it will be located? Traffic is high in that area, hard to imagine easy access for a hospital.

No idea, there would need to be some significant engineering improvements to North Bend road and the surrounding streets. Hopefully when this goes through the plan review process they condition the project in a way that makes the hospital pay for some of those necessary upgrades since it is the hospital who will be increasing the load.

That site was provided by the Enquirer article.  I am completely lost as to which parcels are in question.  All I can say is we are at the right interstate exit!! :wink:

I hope Mercy is required to mitigate their impact. I know that's taboo in Ohio, but here in Maryland it's required by law and works wonderfully. Taxpayers should not be forced to foot the bill for road improvements that will be necessary because of this project.

Agree with you but this interchange as a whole is way past being Due for an update.  I would like to think that ODOT would be on top of these recent events too.  If they start the construction later this year, I would think it would be done by 2013.

 

The bridge overpass extending south on North Bend is the major bottleneck.  I'll be curious to know how far down North Bend towards Cheviot they plan on taking this. 

 

Will it go to 4 lanes all the way to Western Northern Blvd? 

It could sure use it AND maybe free up traffic on both Rybolt Rd. and Montana Ave.  (Basically, the only three exits into the westside from 74.)   

I hope Mercy is required to mitigate their impact. I know that's taboo in Ohio, but here in Maryland it's required by law and works wonderfully. Taxpayers should not be forced to foot the bill for road improvements that will be necessary because of this project.

 

I don't recommend approval of rezonings, variances, or use permits without first conditioning the proposal to certain items as recommended by staff.  For major projects we regularly include that developers pay for turn lanes, streetlights, intersection improvements, etc.

I hope Mercy is required to mitigate their impact. I know that's taboo in Ohio, but here in Maryland it's required by law and works wonderfully. Taxpayers should not be forced to foot the bill for road improvements that will be necessary because of this project.

 

I don't recommend approval of rezonings, variances, or use permits without first conditioning the proposal to certain items as recommended by staff. For major projects we regularly include that developers pay for turn lanes, streetlights, intersection improvements, etc.

 

Some counties are better than others at requiring mitigation. It sure would have been nice if Hamilton County forced the subdivision developers along Rybolt Road to do relatively minor mitigations like add turn lanes, wouldn't it have?

Very good point!

Some counties are better than others at requiring mitigation. It sure would have been nice if Hamilton County forced the subdivision developers along Rybolt Road to do relatively minor mitigations like add turn lanes, wouldn't it have?

 

Yes, to be honest I have no idea how they let a development as large as Ruwe's Oak go without paying into a fund or making direct improvements to the area infrastructure.  That project is massive and put hundred of new housing units into that little spot.  There are two access points, to the development, but the access off of Wesselman is so far off the beaten path that nobody uses it.

 

The Western Village (or whatever the crap the Meijer & Kohls development is) should have also been conditioned to making the improvements we're currently doing now that are after the fact.  The development is done and the traffic has been increased.  We wait until a year afterwards to start considering how to mitigate the traffic problem when we could have conditioned the development appropriately to where the problem wouldn't have occurred in the first place.

 

Furthermore, this process of approval then places the burden of these infrastructure improvements on the taxpayer and local government.  If you're a developer who plans to profit off of your development, then its impact on the local community should be at least partially shared by you.

Some counties are better than others at requiring mitigation. It sure would have been nice if Hamilton County forced the subdivision developers along Rybolt Road to do relatively minor mitigations like add turn lanes, wouldn't it have?

 

Yes, to be honest I have no idea how they let a development as large as Ruwe's Oak go without paying into a fund or making direct improvements to the area infrastructure.  That project is massive and put hundred of new housing units into that little spot.  There are two access points, to the development, but the access off of Wesselman is so far off the beaten path that nobody uses it.

 

The Western Village (or whatever the crap the Meijer & Kohls development is) should have also been conditioned to making the improvements we're currently doing now that are after the fact.  The development is done and the traffic has been increased.  We wait until a year afterwards to start considering how to mitigate the traffic problem when we could have conditioned the development appropriately to where the problem wouldn't have occurred in the first place.

 

Furthermore, this process of approval then places the burden of these infrastructure improvements on the taxpayer and local government.  If you're a developer who plans to profit off of your development, then its impact on the local community should be at least partially shared by you.

 

Rando - I know this development is near your stomping ground but it's total garbage  :evil:- my cousin lives on Rues Oak Drive - the house is a cheap vinyl box with a driveway- like most of the other ones appear to be.

 

As far as having developers pony up $$$ or take responsibility for off-site improvements necessitated by (their) development impacts - a great way to address it would probably be through Impact Fees.

^Impact fees are wonderful. I can show you something that a developer is being forced to do here in Maryland at their expense some time in the future. On the other hand, I am fairly certain that impact fees and requiring the developer to pay for infrastructure mitigation also increases property values / property costs, so there is some trade off.

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New hospital plan to be detailed

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/AB/20090316/NEWS01/903160338/

By Eric Bradley

[email protected]

 

GREEN TWP. - Residents and other stakeholders interested in the details of a new Mercy Health Partners hospital here can have their first say during a land use planning committee meeting at 7 p.m. today at the Township Administrative Complex, 6303 Harrison Ave.

 

Click link for article.

Green Twp. residents oppose hospital

http://communitypress.cincinnati.com/article/20090317/NEWS/903170312

 

Mark Broering Sr. said it only took him a week and a half to collect 500 signatures from Green Township residents who oppose Mercy Health Partners' plan to build a new hospital in Monfort Heights.

 

"This is a project nobody wants," said Broering, a Kleeman Road resident circulating a petition against the proposed hospital development.

 

Click link for article.

 

"This is a project nobody wants," said Broering, a Kleeman Road resident circulating a petition against the proposed hospital development.

 

 

NIMBY's!!!    *shaking head*    They always know whats best!

 

Mercy COULD go out to Harrison OR just shut both existing hospitals down and NOT even open a new one!!!

 

Next we will be voting on this!!

Mercy COULD go out to Harrison OR just shut both existing hospitals down and NOT even open a new one!!!

 

Next we will be voting on this!!

 

Yep.  Let them be without a hospital. :)

"We've never had to worry about our children, but if this is allowed to go through we would."

 

He said the project and the traffic it would generate would disrupt the way of life he and his neighbors sought when buying homes in Monfort Heights.

 

"This has always been a very close-knit, residential community," he said. "This hospital is something we as a community don't want."

 

 

I don't understand this at all.  So these people never worry about their children?  They must live in a plastic bubble. 

 

I also can't imagine a hospital tearing a community apart.  Do they also have a problem with the firehouse that is nearby?  After all, they probably hear sirens (gasp!) from the fire trucks. 

 

 

If these people want a solid argument against this project it would be that it is going to eliminate the wooded corridor along I-74 that Green Township has said they intend to protect.  I believe Green Township Trustee Chairman Tracy Winkler even sent out a mailer a while back to Green Township residents citing her unwavering support of this preservation effort.  They should hold her to that.

 

On her official page it claims the following - "Preservation of green space and creating a park system that all residents can enjoy has also been a priority for Mrs Winkler."

http://www.greentwp.org/TrusteeWinkler.cfm

  • 3 weeks later...

Hospital plan for Green Twp. hits a bump

Committee Disapproves Mercy Proposal

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20090408/NEWS01/904080356/1055/NEWS

 

Mercy Health Partners' plan to build an acute-care hospital here hit a bump in the road Tuesday.

 

During a meeting attended by more than 100 people, Green Township's Land Use Planning Committee voted 6-5 not to endorse a land-use change for a West Side hospital hub that Mercy officials say would assume the inpatient care services of the network's Mount Airy and Western Hills hospitals.

 

Click link for article.

Oy!!  Interesting turn of events!

I've known for months about this project. On the street next to st. Ignatius there is a lil church. If you follow it to it turns into dirt road it dead ends into the church parking lot. Mercy already bought the property. I know a few people that go there. That lil church made millions in the deal.

  • 3 weeks later...

Plan for new hospital under way

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20090430/NEWS01/905010332/1055/NEWS

 

A Mercy Hospital here could be just what the doctor ordered, township trustees say.

 

Mercy Health Partners, operator of five Tristate hospitals, in January announced its intention to build a $200 million acute care hospital and office complex at I-74 near North Bend Road. Early plans show a 250-bed hospital that would employ 1,500 people and become Mercy's West side hub, replacing the inpatient care services of the network's Mount Airy and Western Hills locations.

 

Click link for article.

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I love the idea of a close hospital, just hate the idea of loosing more of my front yard to North Bend when they decide to expand it. Maybe the Sears Honor Bilt community will back me ;)

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Green Twp. hospital moves a step closer

By Eric Bradley • [email protected] • July 27, 2009

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/AB/20090727/NEWS01/907280354/

 

GREEN TWP. - Plans to build a $200 million hospital here cleared a hurdle Monday when trustees voted 3-0 to endorse a zone amendment proposal by Mercy Health Partners.

 

Mercy officials showed a concept site plan for the rezoning that would change the site's 70 acres off North Bend Road at Interstate 74 to planned office.

 

Click link for article.

  • 2 weeks later...

New Mercy Hospital rezoning hearing today

http://www.building-cincinnati.com/2009/08/new-mercy-hospital-rezoning-hearing.html

 

Anchor Properties today will seek from the Hamilton County Regional Planning Commission (HCRPC) a zoning change from residential to planned office for the proposed $200 million Mercy Hospital in Green Township.

 

The regional hospital and adjacent medical office buildings would be built on 66 acres roughly bounded by I-74, North Bend Road, and Boomer Road.

 

The rezoning would affect 62 parcels. Forty-nine single-family homes would be demolished to make way for the new buildings.

 

More than 1,200 residents have signed a petition to try to stop the project, citing concerns over traffic, noise, a lack of need, and possible future vacancy of the building if the hospital decides to move again.

 

The developer has yet to submit any detailed designs, but Anchor Properties would be subject to 138 specific design standards affecting such elements as building size and massing, signage, landscaping, and exterior finishes.

 

A traffic impact analysis for North Bend Road, to be performed by the Hamilton County Engineer's Office, would also be required.

 

The HCRPC approved of a change to the Green Township Land Use Plan last month, finding that the site was surrounded by other non-residential uses and adjacent to an Interstate highway.

 

HCRPC staff recommends approval of the rezoning request.

 

The Hamilton County Rural Zoning Commission will consider final zoning compliance during a public hearing on August 20.

 

If approved, the new hospital could be open as soon as early 2014 and is expected to bring up to 1,500 jobs to the area.

 

Emergency rooms and inpatient services at Mercy hospitals in Mount Airy and in Western Hills would be closed.

 

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I am glad they are placing it back on the property closest to the interstate! 

 

The whole increased traffic argument has been way overblown.  That traffic has been there for years.  The new interchange will help with that issue quite well.

 

  What new interchange?

Yeah.... there is no interchange proposed; however, there were improvements proposed to North Bend Rd several years back. Those improvements recommended a 3 lane section for where this hospital is going to go, though.

Maybe not a "New Interchange" per say, but yea the improvements.    I worded that wrong.

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Commissioners OK rezoning for new Mercy hospital

Business Courier of Cincinnati, September 23, 2009

 

The Hamilton County Commissioners have provided the final government approval needed in the rezoning for Mercy Health Partners’ planned hospital in Green Township.  Commissioners Greg Hartmann, David Pepper and Todd Portune unanimously approved the rezoning request, clearing the way for Mercy to develop a facility on a 60-acre site located on North Bend Road just off Interstate 74.

 

The approval follows unanimous votes for the rezoning from the Green Township trustees, Hamilton County Regional Planning Commission and the Hamilton County Rural Zoning Commission.  The hospital will replace the inpatient services currently offered at Mercy Hospital Mount Airy and Mercy Hospital Western Hills, Mercy Health Partners CEO James May said in a press release.

 

Read full article here:

http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2009/09/21/daily38.html

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Well, that's clear as mud!  What do you mean?

 

The old hospitals are closing.

Mercy Health Partners buys land for $200M project

Christ Hospital also scouting West Side space

By Dan Monk & James Ritchie, Cincinnati Business Courier | January 22, 2010

 

Mercy Health Partners has completed land acquisition for its planned $200 million hospital in Green Township and narrowed its search for an architectural firm, according to sources, to four finalists.  The hospital system, which includes Mercy hospitals in Anderson, Clermont, Fairfield, Mount Airy and Westwood, is among several health care organizations looking to capitalize on what they view as a hot West Side market. Christ Hospital may be the latest, as it apparently eyes the area for medical office space.

 

Mercy said it spent $20 million to assemble a 60-acre site for a new facility of as many as 250 beds to replace the inpatient services of both of its West Side hospitals. Hamilton County property records indicate Mercy paid between two and three times the auditor’s appraised value for most of the two dozen parcels it acquired along Boomer Road near North Bend.

 

Read full article here:

http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2010/01/25/story1.html

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