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39 minutes ago, mrnyc said:

also that one is rather cleverly built around as to not to have to tear anything down. an excellent project all around. 

 

If you mean the Herman Park one just posted above, I think you misread. They'd definitely be tearing down what's there.

From KJP's article, "... the Bond Street Group of Pepper Pike plans to demolish a two-story industrial warehouse on the site. In its place, the developer wants to construct a four-story ..."

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37 minutes ago, Paul in Cleveland said:

 

If you mean the Herman Park one just posted above, I think you misread. They'd definitely be tearing down what's there.

From KJP's article, "... the Bond Street Group of Pepper Pike plans to demolish a two-story industrial warehouse on the site. In its place, the developer wants to construct a four-story ..."

 

Yes, the site plan shows the existing building demolished. 

 

Some of the renderings show the existing building still standing, but that's due to laziness on the part of Dimit. Those renderings also show utility poles in the foreground disappearing behind the proposed building in the background. I expect better from Dimit. Hopefully they're spending more time on their next big project. 😉

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Is that a hint?

haha i did miss that, but we do love a clarification with an awesome bonus hint of more to come. 🎉

Yeah you must be referring to the new 40 story tower Dimit is designing for  (insert name here) in downtown or was it University Circle... wait, l think it's going up in the old Lakewood hospital site. I'm sorry, l can't exactly remember the location.

 

Come to think of it, it now occures to me the exact location is somewhere between my ears. 

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Progress on The Vantage on Herman Ave. — and some views of the Herman Park area where the other development is proposed.

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  • 2 weeks later...

The Vantage has steel! A pleasant surprise on my dog walk today.

 

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Few cranes in view from Gordon square. 

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Gordon Square development wins approval
By Ken Prendergast / December 6, 2024

 

Projects can move fast in Cleveland when you coordinate with stakeholders and align with the Planning Commission. That’s what happened with a proposed mixed use development in the Gordon Square neighborhood dubbed the “Soap Site” went from a conceptual plan revealed publicly only a month ago, to unanimous final design approval today by commission members.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blog/2024/12/06/gordon-square-development-wins-approval/

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Isn't it amazing that all three or four over one construction, if done right, doesn't have to look cheap.  Somebody should send this to a certain Streetsboro developer.

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I’m so excited for this one. This developer really seems to know how to work with the system. Probably a well honed skill after the issue with the Welleon and Club Azteca. 
 

Hopefully construction gets started soon and they can move on to their next big project in the neighborhood!

 

1 hour ago, KJP said:

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Gordon Square development wins approval
By Ken Prendergast / December 6, 2024

 

Projects can move fast in Cleveland when you coordinate with stakeholders and align with the Planning Commission. That’s what happened with a proposed mixed use development in the Gordon Square neighborhood dubbed the “Soap Site” went from a conceptual plan revealed publicly only a month ago, to unanimous final design approval today by commission members.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blog/2024/12/06/gordon-square-development-wins-approval/

Love it. A small cafe/bakery with a nice patio along the park at the corner of Herman Ave and the park could make a killllinggggg. 

Great looking project. Pretty much ideal for that site.

 

With the other large project planned for the north side of the park this area is really going to see a big transformation,

Foundation work has started on the eastern side/building of The Vantage complex on Herman Ave.

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On 12/12/2024 at 7:36 PM, Paul in Cleveland said:

Foundation work has started on the eastern side/building of The Vantage complex on Herman Ave.

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It appears at least one of them has sold.

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This is a good looking building.  I hope it spurs more of these in the area.  

1 hour ago, Cleburger said:

This is a good looking building.  I hope it spurs more of these in the area.  

Yep - should be more even taller in anticipation of future value/development in that area.  Should also be replicated on the bluffs from downtown eastward overlooking a future Burke lakefront park and nature preserve and the pending CHEERs development to East 72 and MLK (Liberty Blvd).

The article says it will open in 2027, so hopefully they are going to move on construction quickly. It will be nice to add 100+ units to the neighborhood!

 

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The end of industry on Breakwater
By Ken Prendergast / December 27, 2024

 

In the coming weeks, the last vestiges of industry along a once heavily industrialized street are due to pass into history. What will replace it is the same thing that has replaced industrial uses along the rest of Breakwater Avenue in Cleveland’s redeveloping Gordon Square neighborhood — housing. Lots of housing.

 

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https://neo-trans.blog/2024/12/27/the-end-of-industry-on-breakwater/

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^ built all at once. along with the development itself thats also a welcome surprize to hear. 🎉

Feels like developers will run out of space quickly.   I was hoping to see more high rise buildings through here. 

This is all good news of course but l will still retain fond memories of a Cleveland that was filled with little manufacturing plants dispersed among reaidential neighborhoods. Places where dad grabbed his lunchbox and walked to work to start his shift. 

 

What can l say...l'm old lol.

I will say in order to sustain this boom I feel Cleveland needs to start figuring out how to attract new companies to open offices here and figure out how to make the city attractive to families. As people start families they will move out. 

3 hours ago, cadmen said:

This is all good news of course but l will still retain fond memories of a Cleveland that was filled with little manufacturing plants dispersed among reaidential neighborhoods. Places where dad grabbed his lunchbox and walked to work to start his shift. 

 

What can l say...l'm old lol.

 

Yeah, I'm also on the side that light (ie. non-polluting) industrial within walking distance of housing is generally a good thing. However, I'd probably agree that much of it doesn't belong so close to the waterfront.

Here is my attempt to overlay the Breakwater Residences design with the Soap Site apartments just to illustrate the impact these projects could have on the neighborhood. 
 

I also left in the HKM site directly north of Parkview - I did not realize how much space they had! If that and the Westinghouse project come to life… 

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^ there you go thx. yeah the very clevelandy ‘look’ will be missed, but frankly the warehouses don’t look worth saving and of course nowadays the property site is far too prime for that kind of thing. its not hard to throw up a modern light industry warehouse somewhere else if its needed. 🎉

On 12/28/2024 at 8:18 AM, Cleburger said:

Feels like developers will run out of space quickly.   I was hoping to see more high rise buildings through here. 

I'm a proponent of building high rises where necessary, mainly on main roads and in areas similar to UC or Downtown. Secondary streets are fine with more "human scale" (4-5 story apartments are still massive now) developments. 

There are still so many infill lots and homes that need to be demolished in the Detroit Shoreway neighborhood when compared to Ohio City. The plus side of these buildings not being humongous is that it will result in faster development between Franklin and Lorain where it is needed most. The Ohio City portion of this span is so much further along. 

 

The Lorain Midway cannot come soon enough that is what will really solidify the neighborhood imo. The development by the lake is great but the southern portion of our neighborhood is still a ghetto (just being factual based on crime, poverty, and blight not trying to be rude or offensive). 

On 1/2/2025 at 3:36 PM, Henke said:

Here is my attempt to overlay the Breakwater Residences design with the Soap Site apartments just to illustrate the impact these projects could have on the neighborhood. 
 

I also left in the HKM site directly north of Parkview - I did not realize how much space they had! If that and the Westinghouse project come to life… 

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More life?  btw how is the Parkview these days (featured in image)?

Pretty busy, seemingly a lot of people driving there can really pack the street

Agreed ... we walk past Parkview almost daily, and it always seems super busy.

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2 hours ago, Paul in Cleveland said:

Agreed ... we walk past Parkview almost daily, and it always seems super busy.

I'm a fan.  Great neighborhood bar with reasonably priced drinks and food.  

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Can’t say I’m completely shocked, I will say great build out of a space I look forward to someone else filling the spot I don’t think the concept can really stand on its own. 
 

also the apartments above it should be finished soon if they’re not already which  are really affordable for this neighborhood given they’re a complete renovation 

Don't think restaurant closures are a uniquely NEO problem. There have also been a lot of openings recently.

Also importantly not a reflection of location, really just an issue with the concept in my mind, Astoria for example right across the street is always busy and they’re a larger space. 
 

 

 

The original Gordon Square location was open for 5 years, 2015-2020, so I’m not sure I would blame the concept. This iteration didn’t even last a year. Very bummed to lose them again. 
 

And - hate to be this guy - but Astoria has a dedicated parking lot. There’s abundant (too much imo) parking in the immediate 65th and Detroit area, but less so by their location. This is said in service of more apartments and density, not more parking. We should be building the population to support places like this. 

 

10 minutes ago, Henke said:

The original Gordon Square location was open for 5 years, 2015-2020, so I’m not sure I would blame the concept. This iteration didn’t even last a year. Very bummed to lose them again. 
 

And - hate to be this guy - but Astoria has a dedicated parking lot. There’s abundant (too much imo) parking in the immediate 65th and Detroit area, but less so by their location. This is said in service of more apartments and density, not more parking. We should be building the population to support places like this. 


Astoria is a different beast. I think Banter's downfall isn't the food or drink, it was the interior... their seating choices (bench on back wall sits about a foot too high so you're awkwardly hunched over a table), layout (the weird split made one side seem dead and the other lively), lighting (way too bright), and music was never really dialed in for the west side audience. Great food, great staff, good drink, but whatever new concept is taking over should fix the bench seating, go darker and make sure the music is better. In 2025, as much as we might hate the word, you have to bring the vibes. You can get by on great vibes and okay food... you can't get by with okay vibes.

I eat healthier now than I did when they were on my end of the neighborhood, and stopped there a couple times a week. Nothing about their fare is healthy. I didn’t bother going to the new spot. 

Wood framing going up on The Vantage. From this morning.

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Exciting, yet somewhat expected news - The W Sports Bar just announced they are indeed opening in the latest Banter spot. 

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The Vantage getting a bit taller. Pic from yesterday.

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UCS’s West 47th remake to include new ballpark
By Ken Prendergast / February 10, 2025

 

For leaders of the Urban Community School (UCS), West 47th Street has been a street of dreams. But those dreams are becoming a reality in 2025, with more to come by the end of the year – including a new baseball field of dreams.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blog/2025/02/10/ucss-west-47th-remake-to-include-new-ballpark/

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

On 2/9/2025 at 4:49 PM, Paul in Cleveland said:

The Vantage getting a bit taller. Pic from yesterday.

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Just my opinion here. This is one of the worst looking new developments in awhile. It would be much better if it was more in scale (if the front is tall, fine, but the rear buildings should be lower) and if instead of a lifeless auto court, there was instead shared green space. I am usually a fan of this architect but these just look strange.

Also would have nicer to have built off the existing drive/“alley” from the neighboring townhome instead building another drive

On 2/9/2025 at 4:49 PM, Paul in Cleveland said:

The Vantage getting a bit taller. Pic from yesterday.

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Can't wait to see the side units added.  The renderings look amazing, 

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Cleveland, Lakewood projects boosted by Port
By Ken Prendergast / February 13, 2025

 

Three redevelopment projects — two on Cleveland’s west side and one in Lakewood — were awarded financial assistance today by the Cleveland-Cuyahoga County Port Authority’s board of directors to advance them to construction in the coming weeks. The assistance totaled more than $97 million worth of financing, sales tax savings and bonds.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blog/2025/02/13/cleveland-lakewood-projects-boosted-by-port/

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

More work on The Vantage ... from Saturday.

 

I haven't seen any equipment in or around either of the big Herman area apartment projects. Fingers crossed those start demolition soon.

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