March 24, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, js_bsg said: A few construction pics to kick off the weekend... 1. This week, poured stair that connects pedestrian path from Tillman Ave up to the courtyard and through to Detroit 2. Framing 2BR unit overlooking Detroit, with views west 3&4. Views from 6th floor courtyard balcony 5. View from "inside" the 7th floor rooftop pool 6. Looking back into 2nd floor studio from the unit's terrace, windows/terrace doors going in 7. Brick working up to the 6th floor along the south (Detroit) facade 8. Southeast corner along Detroit (Banter building on the right) Transformative for the area– look at those views.
March 24, 20232 yr 9 minutes ago, marty15 said: First I heard of it having a rooftop pool! And what a view! https://www.welleon.com/amenities
March 24, 20232 yr Welleon (3-24-23) Battery Park townhomes on W. 73rd Edited March 24, 20232 yr by sonisharri
March 27, 20232 yr Walking past the original Banter space this evening and noticed a permit posted on the wall inside. I couldn’t make out what it said, but there’s some work going on and blueprints on the bar. Anyone hear what’s going in there?
March 27, 20232 yr 11 minutes ago, marty15 said: Walking past the original Banter space this evening and noticed a permit posted on the wall inside. I couldn’t make out what it said, but there’s some work going on and blueprints on the bar. Anyone hear what’s going in there? I know I read a couple weeks ago that Banter is reopening. Not sure at a new location or the old one.
March 28, 20232 yr On 5/31/2022 at 5:26 PM, ColDayMan said: West 73rd Street Apartments renewed for Cleveland's Detroit-Shoreway neighborhood New apartments are planned for Cleveland's Edgewater neighborhood, adding to an ongoing push to further develop the area. Horton Harper Architects is seeking schematic approval on the West 73rd Street Apartments, which will include two 108-unit apartments across the intersection of West 73rd Street and Herman Avenue near the Gordon Square Arts District. Wes Harper, co-founder of Horton Harper Architects, is representing the project. The 181,000-square-foot project will be heard June 1 at the Far West Design Review meeting, which will recommend its approval or disapproval by the Cleveland City Planning Commission. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cleveland/news/2022/05/31/west-73rd-apartments-cleveland.html Has there been any updates/movement on this proejct?
March 28, 20232 yr 16 minutes ago, owenflanagan said: Has there been any updates/movement on this proejct? I was actually wondering the same thing. It has been crickets since I believe they received schematic approval from PC. I don't believe they have received final approval although I might be wrong. I think they have demoed buildings on the property but that was a long time ago. There was a significant amount of neighborhood opposition including from the councilwoman and I wonder if they are licking their wounds as a result. Maybe they just gave up. Combination of opposition and increased costs. I am just speculating. Hopefully somebody on the forum has more insight. I would not be surprised if this property ended up being townhomes someday instead of apartments. Less opposition I would imagine.
March 28, 20232 yr There was a plan for townhouses on this site a few years ago, but that developer walked away. The latest plan is the 3rd different developer to propose something in the last 5 years. They have made it the furthest by actually demo'ing the buildings that were sitting on the site, but now it's just a vacant lot with a fence surrounding it, and no other signs of movement.
March 28, 20232 yr ^This parcel and the Hessler Street gravel lot seem to be in a neck and neck competition as the most NIMBYed development properties in the city. Edited March 28, 20232 yr by Htsguy
March 28, 20232 yr When I spoke to the developer about the Lakewood project, they gave no indication they were abandoning their West 73rd street project. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 28, 20232 yr So what seems to be the source of opposition this time? The usual density thing? Neighbor's not wanting neighbors?
March 28, 20232 yr Same old same old. Too dense, not enough parking, too high for the single family houses across the street, W 73rd will be turned into a speed zone, not affordable for the neighborhood. Also a fair amount of criticism of the design even after changes were made.
March 28, 20232 yr The design of those West 73rd townhomes are underwhelming and look dated. They remind me of the Circle East townhomes in East Cleveland. While I want these to be built I don't want them to be built in this iteration. Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk
March 30, 20232 yr The for sale sign of the vacant lot across from Burger King is listed as “sale pending”. The lot has some fresh survey stakes as well.
March 30, 20232 yr 30 minutes ago, marty15 said: The for sale sign of the vacant lot across from Burger King is listed as “sale pending”. The lot has some fresh survey stakes as well. Are they gonna put up another paddle ball statue? Maybe one of Mel Brooks as governor decrying the other one as defective? All kidding aside, what is the best bet for what is going in here?
March 30, 20232 yr No but there is interest in remaking the Lake-Detroit intersection with a right angle. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 30, 20232 yr The whole intersection is literally on the market right now. Except the gas station. And throw in the Watterson-Lake site.
March 30, 20232 yr 9 hours ago, marty15 said: The for sale sign of the vacant lot across from Burger King is listed as “sale pending”. The lot has some fresh survey stakes as well. The stakes were removed today. Replaced by paint markings. Almost looks like they’re laying out a building footprint. @zbaris87? Edited March 30, 20232 yr by marty15
March 30, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, zbaris87 said: Still not the site i'm talking about... the site i'm working on is further east Would be great to see that whole corridor go up in unison. Edited March 30, 20232 yr by marty15
March 31, 20232 yr On 3/27/2023 at 7:44 PM, marty15 said: Walking past the original Banter space this evening and noticed a permit posted on the wall inside. I couldn’t make out what it said, but there’s some work going on and blueprints on the bar. Anyone hear what’s going in there? I selflessly did a little pub crawl this evening to learn more about the former Banter space. Sounds like it may be a bakery focused on desserts. The bartender sounded a little skeptical of that, and it wasn’t exactly clear when he had heard that. He said maybe a few months ago? Anyways, hope it’s copacetic with Ready Set, I’ve loved having them nearby.
April 10, 20232 yr Can we also appreciate how this fills the block all the way to the back? Great street presence even on Herman. On a side note, is there any political will to bury any more powerlines along Detroit? It would be great if the Gordon Square vibe extended from Happy Dog to the Clifton/Lake split.
April 18, 20232 yr On 1/3/2023 at 5:56 PM, KJP said: Shoreway Tower clears another hurdle By Ken Prendergast / January 3, 2023 One of the most important remaining hurdles for a proposed high-rise apartment building overlooking Edgewater Park was finally cleared after multiple postponements. But today, Cleveland’s Board of Zoning Appeals (BZA) unanimously approved four variances to the city’s zoning code necessary to build the project on a parking lot at the north end of West 78th Street. Today’s action puts the project a big step closer to construction. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/01/03/shoreway-tower-clears-another-hurdle/ Foundation construction permits submitted to the city today for the 13-story Shoreway Tower. Might see construction start by June at this rate. So how about TWO tower cranes along the Shoreway on the West Side? Plus the Westinghouse conversion, if they ever submit any plans to the city?? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 21, 20232 yr The West Shore also rises By Ken Prendergast / April 21, 2023 In the coming weeks and months, the continued metamorphosis of land uses along Cleveland's West Shoreway from industrial to residential will yield some new features that will show just how much Cleveland is changing. Several projects along the Shoreway-turned-Edgewater Parkway will be under way at roughly the same time and offer some lofty symbols about Clevelanders' evolving regard for its often-ignored lakefront. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/04/21/the-west-shore-also-rises/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 21, 20232 yr Is Brad saying that they won’t pursue 8400 Lake until rates come down? Or are there alternative market conditions that could prompt them to reengage? Those HKM height restrictions 🤯 Bizarre that it’s limited so drastically (35 feet) but is so close to Westinghouse.
April 21, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, Henke said: Is Brad saying that they won’t pursue 8400 Lake until rates come down? Yes, or some other incentives become available and improve the returns to the point that investors will want to put money into it. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 22, 20232 yr 33 minutes ago, KJP said: Yes, or some other incentives become available and improve the returns to the point that investors will want to put money into it. That’s a bummer, that could be years from now.
April 22, 20232 yr 20 hours ago, KJP said: The West Shore also rises By Ken Prendergast / April 21, 2023 In the coming weeks and months, the continued metamorphosis of land uses along Cleveland's West Shoreway from industrial to residential will yield some new features that will show just how much Cleveland is changing. Several projects along the Shoreway-turned-Edgewater Parkway will be under way at roughly the same time and offer some lofty symbols about Clevelanders' evolving regard for its often-ignored lakefront. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/04/21/the-west-shore-also-rises/ The visual of a restored Westinghouse and a hopefully sooner-than-later Shoreway Tower is going to be incredible.
April 22, 20232 yr On 3/1/2023 at 1:06 PM, Boaty McBoatface said: I never comment on here, but I know exactly why this is happening and it’s not all bad news. The owners wanted to retire and, let’s just say, they will be able to do that quite handsomely. That’s all the info I can give at this point. I see the space up on Loopnet now: https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/6101-Detroit-Ave-Cleveland-OH/28204658/
April 23, 20232 yr 6 hours ago, downtownjoe said: I see the space up on Loopnet now: https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/6101-Detroit-Ave-Cleveland-OH/28204658/ There is a suitor but that's all I can say at this point. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 26, 20232 yr The Big Egg is getting a new life! https://www.clevescene.com/food-drink/guanaquitas-restaurante-to-open-in-former-big-egg-space-in-detroit-shoreway-41776495?fbclid=IwAR3OrfH2Yq8NqA6wgnRrPsAy0vGwic_JEVtKYlsw_y6VVzOx0WXPpkI5QAo
April 26, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, marty15 said: The Big Egg is getting a new life! https://www.clevescene.com/food-drink/guanaquitas-restaurante-to-open-in-former-big-egg-space-in-detroit-shoreway-41776495?fbclid=IwAR3OrfH2Yq8NqA6wgnRrPsAy0vGwic_JEVtKYlsw_y6VVzOx0WXPpkI5QAo That's good news, Pupuseria y Antojitos Guanaquitas is one of my favorite restaurants. I've eaten there many times and the food is always on point.
April 26, 20232 yr 9 hours ago, marty15 said: The Big Egg is getting a new life! https://www.clevescene.com/food-drink/guanaquitas-restaurante-to-open-in-former-big-egg-space-in-detroit-shoreway-41776495?fbclid=IwAR3OrfH2Yq8NqA6wgnRrPsAy0vGwic_JEVtKYlsw_y6VVzOx0WXPpkI5QAo That means most of the buildings on this little stretch of Detroit will be getting new life in some way. 5017 sold and is being renovated into retail/apartments. 5007 Detroit is pending sale to a veterinarian. 5103 and the empty car lot on the corner are the only ones left.
April 26, 20232 yr 9 minutes ago, downtownjoe said: That means most of the buildings on this little stretch of Detroit will be getting new life in some way. 5017 sold and is being renovated into retail/apartments. 5007 Detroit is pending sale to a veterinarian. 5103 and the empty car lot on the corner are the only ones left. That’s great news! I need a neighborhood vet!
April 26, 20232 yr 10 minutes ago, downtownjoe said: That means most of the buildings on this little stretch of Detroit will be getting new life in some way. 5017 sold and is being renovated into retail/apartments. 5007 Detroit is pending sale to a veterinarian. 5103 and the empty car lot on the corner are the only ones left. Wonderful! Now just need to get those car dealerships across the street to change hands.
May 1, 20232 yr The major portion of the Westinghouse demolition finished up this past Friday: https://www.myearthcam.com/clevoplanner
May 1, 20232 yr I don't know about you guys, but I can't wait to see those windows lit up at night! I've been driving by that bricked-up building for decades!
May 2, 20232 yr Ten years ago, a project like this would be very high profile. Now, it barely gets mentioned. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 9, 20232 yr Addressing the shortage of for-sale housing By Ken Prendergast / May 9, 2023 Despite the rise in interest rates, there continues to be strong demand for new housing in Greater Cleveland, especially in hot sub-markets like where Cleveland’s Detroit-Shoreway neighborhood meets Ohio City. In areas like that, homes sell for about 2 percent above the list price and get an accepted offer within nine days of going on the market, according to real estate analytics form Norada Real Estate Investments of California. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/05/09/addressing-the-shortage-of-for-sale-housing/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 9, 20232 yr 50 minutes ago, KJP said: Addressing the shortage of for-sale housing By Ken Prendergast / May 9, 2023 Despite the rise in interest rates, there continues to be strong demand for new housing in Greater Cleveland, especially in hot sub-markets like where Cleveland’s Detroit-Shoreway neighborhood meets Ohio City. In areas like that, homes sell for about 2 percent above the list price and get an accepted offer within nine days of going on the market, according to real estate analytics form Norada Real Estate Investments of California. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/05/09/addressing-the-shortage-of-for-sale-housing/ Love my home on West 48th. The area around it is incredible, sandwiched between Gordon Square/Battery Park and W 25th. With Lorain and Detroit coming alive, the lake so close, this area is truly the place to be for the price you pay.
May 10, 20232 yr So 5416 Detroit is to be demolished for a surface parking lot the new Waverly & Oak building. Shame that we're losing street presence along Detroit Ave even though the existing building isn't an architectural gem. https://www.google.com/maps/place/5416+Detroit+Ave,+Cleveland,+OH+44102/@41.4855897,-81.7244793,3a,75y,337.03h,87.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sazhOnUlCMdJRtEgez3beuA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!4m7!3m6!1s0x8830f0488547b959:0x2a3f3e2c18144c56!8m2!3d41.4858459!4d-81.7246355!10e5!16s%2Fg%2F11c5ffqqp8 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 10, 20232 yr remember it will include a pocket park in front and they said after they were done with the main building they will look to build another building there
May 10, 20232 yr 15 minutes ago, BoomerangCleRes said: remember it will include a pocket park in front and they said after they were done with the main building they will look to build another building there A very tiny "park" and when I hear "temporary" parking lot, I get nervous. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
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