I don't know if I'm more impressed with this purported strategery by DSCDO or by B12's leviathan vocabulary!

Maybe this upzoning was needed to allow air rights to be sold, which seems a byzantine maneuver!

 

I'm not impressed. I perform byzanize maneuvers quite freqently.

This may have something to do with easements. I believe DSCDO wanted to sell conservation easements for the air rights over the Arcade, to help finance the movie theater. Maybe this upzoning was needed to allow air rights to be sold, which seems a byzantine maneuver!

 

For those not in the planning profession, or the conservation easement brokerage field (:wink:), what are the implications of this?  Who would want to buy the air rights? and why?

That's a logical (and good) question.  Who will buy the air rights?  I believe these have to be sold to someone in surrounding blocks.  Not sure where these would be applied.

^OK, I'll come clean. I'm planning on building the Detroit-Shoreway Space Needle.

I *think* a local developer was interested in buying them. It means they would have exclusive rights to build additional stories on the arcade, if/when the neighborhood gets "hot." I'm not sure how this would work, though, considering the Arcade is currently affordable housing for seniors and probably must remain so for a while (considering it was just renovated using low-income tax credits).

I overheard that the Cleveland Clinic is looking at putting in some doctor's offices at the old RiteAid on W. 65th

Wish that they would do somthing similar to what they did next to Rockport Square in Lakewood. That old Rite Aid is quite the ugly duckling. Still, it would be great it something were in there.

inside the old rite aid, or on that corner?  it is a thoroughly under utilized crossroads, especially with its proximity to all the good news one block up.  a new building, maybe built up to just one of the sidewalks would do wonders for extending the franklin ave streetscape.   

Howabout a new thread specifically for this up-and-coming neighborhood. Battery Park isn't the only thing going on this neighborhood, so let's be creative and stir up some discussion on one of the hottest places to be in Cleveland right now!

 

Gypsy Coffeehouse recently opened and is an awesome little place to hang out! They have some VERY unique sandwiches and drinks!

 

Cleveland Public Theatre, The Happy Dog, King's Terrace, and BP spur development. Let's talk it up!

There are a number of threads discussing Detroit-Shoreway.  Gordon Square etc.

bizbiz- DS is definitely exciting these days; check out http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=2873.msg171812 for the main thread covering it.

Is this move with the Clinic official?  Would love to hear more about it -- any idea where I can find information? 

This seems to be an exciting neighborhood and we are considering living there so I look forward to hearing as much as possible!  We have  been to Gypsy Bean a number of times, that is a great place.  Attended productions at CPT, very much stuff that the arts community needs -- alternative to the usual, but wonderful, Playhouse Square stuff.  I hope the funding for changing the Shoreway and for narrowing Detroit/changin the sidewalks does not get cut by the State.  That would be a major blow to the progress being made.

putting it in a spot next to the cleveland public theatre would be ideal....take down the leather shop

what...and dismantle the burgeoning leather district of cleveland?

putting it in a spot next to the cleveland public theatre would be ideal....take down the leather shop

 

I don't know this business, but is there a compelling reason it should be torn down?

Why take down a shop that is operating and well maintained?  We don't like leather?

nothing against leather...the building isnt the most appealing....anyhow, i think a clinic building there like the one at rockport square would just add more to that corner of that intersection...also increasing foot traffic on detroit...just my thoughts

nothing against leather...the building isnt the most appealing....anyhow, i think a clinic building there like the one at rockport square would just add more to that corner of that intersection...also increasing foot traffic on detroit...just my thoughts

 

So are you suggesting that the clinic building be built on a location that currently has a "decent" business, employees (who are probably family or from the neighborhood) and is part of the neighborhood fabric?  It sounds anti productive and then puts the Clinic in the position of being a corporate bully.

its for the greater good...i see plenty of other storefronts at that intersection where they could relocate

a local developer, who was recently highlighted in crain's as an inner city developer, is negotiating with the owner's of the OLD riteaid space (w65), to put doctor's (clv clnc) offices there.  i know nothing more.

One healthcare business model is to have small that do not charge a lot for people to be seen by either a nurse or a doctor for relatively minor things like a cold or a sprain.  They were popular in MS when I was down there, and I know wal-mart is starting to build them. 

Generally you can be seen for $30. 

I wonder if the clinic is going to start something like this, before people like Wal-mart move in.

 

BTW, I loved the clinics down in MS.  Show up, pay $30, get anti-biotics, ect.

One healthcare business model is to have small that do not charge a lot for people to be seen by either a nurse or a doctor for relatively minor things like a cold or a sprain.  They were popular in MS when I was down there, and I know wal-mart is starting to build them. 

Generally you can be seen for $30. 

I wonder if the clinic is going to start something like this, before people like Wal-mart move in.

 

BTW, I loved the clinics down in MS.  Show up, pay $30, get anti-biotics, ect.

 

When I lived in Memphis, I remember all the folks commenting about the world class care in MS. ;)

 

Merged with pre-existing Detroit Shoreway thread.

 

 

Sorry for the duplicate posts, but you never know in which thread people will be looking...

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FYI...

 

Commercial Real Estate Women Cleveland will hold its annual professional development seminar from noon to 4:30 p.m. May 17 at Saigon Plaza, 5400 Detroit Ave. Registration starts at 11:30 a.m.

The program will showcase the revitalization of the Detroit Shoreway neighborhood, including the new Battery Park. CREW Cleveland will have a knowledgeable group of panelists to discuss current events in the neighborhood.

For more information or to register, visit www.crewcleveland.org on the Web.

Cost is $35 for CREW Cleveland members and $45 for non-members if they register by the end of today. After today, the cost is $45 for members and $55 for non-members. CREW has applied for three hours of continuing legal education credits and three hours of real estate continuing education credits for this event.

The featured luncheon speaker will be Ward 17 Councilman Matt Zone, who will discuss his vision and views on the Detroit Shoreway neighborhood and Battery Park.

The first panel discussion will feature Jeff Ramsey, executive director of the Detroit Shoreway Community Development Organization, attorney Debora Lasch and Joy Roller of the Gordon Square Arts District. They will discuss neighborhood redevelopment and the creation of the arts district.

A second panel discussion will include Chip Marous of Marous Construction, Matt Solomon of City Architecture, attorney Robert Ranallo and Amy Dosen of Key Community Development Corp. Their topic of discussion will be the development, architecture, financing and legal aspects of the Battery Park development.

 

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I'm particularly excited to keep up with the progress of this project now that I live two blocks from the heart of it!

 

Check it out:

 

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=13176

 

Wednesday, July 18, 2007 12:00 PM

The Changing Face of Cleveland: Getting a Lift in Arts Districts

Dan Cuffaro, Dr. Ned Hill, and Matt Zone

 

http://www.cityclub.org/content/speakers/SpeakerDetail.aspx?spkID=5497

this map goes with this story: http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/wide/index.ssf?gordonsquaremap.html

 

Energizing Detroit-Shoreway

Sunday, June 24, 2007

Steven Litt

Plain Dealer Architecture Critic

 

Matthew Wiederhold, economic development director of the Detroit Shoreway Community Development Organization, had a nagging question about historic preservation on his mind.

 

To find the answer, he climbed a 20-foot ladder inside the long-vacant Capitol Theatre on Cleveland's West Side, aimed a flashlight at a 6-foot-high decorative plaster panel of a gazelle leaping through a forest, and started tapping on it gently with his fingertips...

 

For More: http://www.cleveland.com/printer/printer.ssf?/base/entertainment-0/1182588585172430.xml&coll=2

As an Arts patron, I positively love what Det-Shoreway is doing at Gordon Square, esp w/ the theatres and coffee shops.  Love the old housing nearby; some still needs some rehabbing; but Battery Park and the lake are nearby... Also, the frequent 326 Bus is, what, 8-10 mins from downtown?

This neighborhood is going to be hot in 5 years.  I just hope the area between 32 and 50 street catchs up.

 

With Ohio City being saturated and developmnet moving to north and west, the near westside could be priced out very soon.

Nice article.  Too bad they had to use the last line to cast doubt on the whole endeavor.  But, it wouldn't be a PD article without either the first or last line taking a jab at Cleveland.

Great piece!  How fitting that they run this the day that I officially settle into the neighborhood! 

welcome to the neighborhood.

a local developer, who was recently highlighted in crain's as an inner city developer, is negotiating with the owner's of the OLD riteaid space (w65), to put doctor's (clv clnc) offices there.  i know nothing more.

 

Any news on this front?  This intersection, which has so much potential, is one of the least attractive and least active in the neighborhood.  Empty delivery space, empty Rite Aid, Uncle Dee's (is it open?), and the new Rite Aid... such a dramatic difference from Gordon Square, just two blocks away!

a local developer, who was recently highlighted in crain's as an inner city developer, is negotiating with the owner's of the OLD riteaid space (w65), to put doctor's (clv clnc) offices there.  i know nothing more.

 

 

 

Any news on this front?  This intersection, which has so much potential, is one of the least attractive and least active in the neighborhood.  Empty delivery space, empty Rite Aid, Uncle Dee's (is it open?), and the new Rite Aid... such a dramatic difference from Gordon Square, just two blocks away!

 

it was recently confirmed to me that the clinic is opening a medical office at the old rite aid spot.

 

i've been thinking for a while that the old dominos would make a great food co-op or corner market with farm fresh produce and flowers, something along the lines of Rife's Market in Grandview or the Clintonville Community Market (both in c-bus) i know that the near west side has an active food cooperative (buying club) but no idea if they are looking to expand into a physical space.  in my opinion a food cooperative is a missing piece on the near west side and would do a lot to build community. 

MapBoy, didn't you do a study on something like this for the neighborhood?

 

Talked to the people at the Treehouse this weekend, Stone Mad will be open by late August. 

The name of the place comes from the title of a book.  It was suggested by a family member of the owners of Nighttown, also named after a book.

thanks for the feedback on the old Rite Aid spot...

 

I did look at the intersection, but primarily the NW corner (where the new Rite Aid is) as a mixed-use development, as I knew that the CVS was closing and Rite Aid was moving over.  I came up with a scenario that provided space for a decent number of townhouses to be developed on the site, while still allowing ample space for parking & drive-thru for the confirmed Rite Aid tenant.  Alternately, I proposed a community grocer that would have incorporated cooking classes, etc., but that was just my little pipe dream.  I'm sure a food co-op element would've fit in there nicely as well!

 

So, since we've apparently lost the NW corner to a low-density single-use, how about upping the ante on the Domino's property?  I wouldn't balk at re-use if it's the right one, but if we can build it up a little, that'd be nice too.  Unfortunately, that might price out a community food cooperative tenant...

A while back, I believe last November we (residents of the specific ward this is in) had to vote on giving a liquor license to a new restaurant on the south side of detroit right in the old Perry's Family Restaurant space.  As far as I knew if he got this license he was going to proceed immediatly with the construction.  This was to be kind of a mid-high end bistro type of place.  The owner was the owner of One Walnut downtown (marlan kaplan?).  It looked really great and they even were going to use the alley to the East as an outdoor patio. I beleive that the vote passed and that he was able to get the liquor license.  I'm wondering if anybody knows anything about this.

last I'd heard about it, the plans had fallen through.  not sure where I heard that, though.  i haven't heard anything about that wine bar you mentioned earlier either.  where is it exactly?  any updates?

West Side Sun:

 

Going green is wallet-friendly

Thursday, July 05, 2007

By Ken Prendergast

West Side Sun News

 

With higher energy prices, a handful of "green cottages" planned for the Detroit-Shoreway neighborhood probably can't come soon enough for eligible, moderate-income buyers.

 

Construction is slated to begin on the five cottages as early as the end of August and be located on Pear Avenue between West 58th and West 65th streets. Project backers say the cottages' design should keep heating costs to $436 per year at current rates, and annual electricity consumption to $370.

 

The area surrounding the green cottages is called the "EcoVillage" due to other homes built with green-friendly design. There are also new greenspaces one featuring materials recycled into benches and another that spruced up a vacant lot where a gas station stood. The new Red Line Rapid station was also built with environmental friendly materials and a design that lowers its heating and cooling costs.

 

Similar designs are going into the green cottages, which won financing in June from the Ohio Housing Finance Agency and the City of Cleveland Housing Trust Fund, said Margeret Misak, executive director of the Cuyahoga Community Land Trust.

 

The financing will allow the homes to be offered at prices starting at $105,000 for families earning 80 percent of median income or less. Homes are offered in two- and three-bedroom configurations.

 

Planning for the cottages was developed by the Cuyahoga Community Land Trust, Detroit Shoreway Community Development Organization, Cleveland Green Building Coalition and EcoCity Cleveland. Plans for the cottages were approved earlier this year by the city's Design Review Committee, Misak said.

 

The Detroit Shoreway Community Development Organization will provide construction management for the project. The cottages' construction contractor is Civic Builders of Cleveland.

 

"The green cottages offer environmental sustainability through green design and significant energy savings," said Mandy Metcalf, EcoVillage project director. "The project offers individual homeowners stability through mortgage qualification services and access to an affordable, quality home with reduced utility costs."

 

She added that cottages are within a short walk of the new West 65th-Lorain Red Line Rapid station and other transit services. Taking advantage of that access will minimize homeowners' transportation costs, limit their dependence on cars and reduce their impact on the environment.

 

Misak said there already is one buyer for a cottage, even though project financing was recently approved and word is only now spreading about the cottages' availability. For those interested in buying one, contact the Cuyahoga Community Land Trust at www.cclandtrust.org/greencottages or call (216) 334-1620.

The wine bar is supposed to be in that cute little old bakery building on W. 65th on the block north of Detroit. The working name is Toast. Don't know anything about the status.

The mysterious construction at W. 54th and the Shoreway was mentioned in the "random" thread, but this seems like a better place to discuss it.

Late last year, artist Hector Vega and architect Robert Maschke approached City Planning with plans to build three houses on the grassy slope at W. 54th and Stone Court. I believe only one of the proposed houses is currently being constructed, and it's supposedly for Vega. Don't quote me on that though.

I have a PDF of the site plan for the three houses but I don't have a clue how to upload it here. If anyone can help, let me know.

I heard that Vega moved out to Kirtland last summer.

I have a PDF of the site plan for the three houses but I don't have a clue how to upload it here. If anyone can help, let me know.

 

Assuming you are a Windows user:

 

1. Open the PDF, from the toolbar select edit

2. Select copy file to clipboard

3. Open paint from the windows main menu, select accessories, then open paint

4. Select edit from the toolbar then click paste

5. Go to file and click save as and change the file type to JPEG & save

 

To post the JPEG:

 

1. On the the reply select preview

2. Click on additional options on the left

3. Attach the JPEG file saved above & then click post

 

last I'd heard about it, the plans had fallen through.  not sure where I heard that, though.  i haven't heard anything about that wine bar you mentioned earlier either.  where is it exactly?  any updates?

so what happens to the liquor licince? was it only for this place? or can any place try and get it? while we are at it, has the chef from Parea in NY decided where he is going to open  his gatropub? He is from the Cleve and returning. It is supposed to be like the Spotted Pig and locations concidered were OC or DS

Or just email it to me, and I'll convert the file into JPEG and host it :-)

The mysterious construction at W. 54th and the Shoreway was mentioned in the "random" thread, but this seems like a better place to discuss it.

Late last year, artist Hector Vega and architect Robert Maschke approached City Planning with plans to build three houses on the grassy slope at W. 54th and Stone Court. I believe only one of the proposed houses is currently being constructed, and it's supposedly for Vega. Don't quote me on that though.

I have a PDF of the site plan for the three houses but I don't have a clue how to upload it here. If anyone can help, let me know.

 

Hey, I said he was involved with it (and Kuri too), but I recall being dismissed like a homeless person on Public Square.

you weren't banned, you just weren't given any credit...

If you can't get credit here, you can't get credit anywhere...

I'm not sure if Vega is actually going to occupy the house, but he was certainly planning to at one point, and/or involved in the design.

 

Don't have an image of the elevations, but I've seen them and IMO they're butt ugly -- faux modernist crapola. Also the setbacks and orientations are straight out of Stongsville, as you'll see below. (Thanks for the instructions Florida Guy.)