Could they be better?  maybe.  But this is not a highly visible part of the neighborhood.  They match the Tillman townhomes and are behind those ultra modern homes from the shoreway.  Im just happy to have people living on that corner.

I'm fine with it.  Keep in mind, it's residential, not storefront.  I don't think anyone would necessarily want their living room or dining room window right at street level with no setback...

I am as well--just because of where it is.  This is not a major commercial street with lots of pedestrian activity.  It's a dead end of sorts set on a hillside. 

 

I do hope they improve the overall design look as these things are starting to look dated.

I'm fine with it.  Keep in mind, it's residential, not storefront.  I don't think anyone would necessarily want their living room or dining room window right at street level with no setback...

I am as well--just because of where it is.  This is not a major commercial street with lots of pedestrian activity.  It's a dead end of sorts set on a hillside. 

 

 

This intersection will become a little more visible, but not to a point where its a major one. There will be a trail at the bottom of this hill that will connect west 25th to Edgewater Park.

Finally!!!

 

Landmark detroit shoreway building will be reborn as 30-unit apartment building

 

The Templin Bradley Company building, the stout brick frame of which has served as a gateway to the Detroit Shoreway neighborhood for the past 100 years, once housed the nation's largest seed and bulb company. Templin Bradley gave away literally hundreds of thousands of seeds and bulbs during the Depression, and was a leader in helping citizens start victory gardens during World War II.

 

 

http://www.freshwatercleveland.com/devnews/templinbradleybuilding052114.aspx

The is cheapest rent for new units I have seen in a while!  I'm guessing the money from the affordable units are leveraging the cheaper prices for the market rate units.

I'm guessing the money from the affordable units are leveraging the cheaper prices for the market rate units.

 

say what?

^

Am I confusing "affordable" and "subsidized?"

 

Those first 15 are federally-subsized units, correct?  Along with the tax credits that comes with combined "equity planning."

 

Is this the reason why the units are able to be priced at such a good price point? I'm just impressed by the low price point of the market rate apartments.

My guess is the low prices in the ranges they are giving are the "affordable" units, and the higher price is the market rate.

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2014/05162014/index.php

 

City Planning Commission

Agenda for May 2, 2014

 

NEAR WEST DESIGN REVIEW

1. NW2014-007 - Harborview Townhomes

Project Address: 1313-1315 West 54th Street and 5320-5326 Herman Avenue

Project Representatives: Michael DeCesare, Case Development

Mark Reinhold, Architect

 

 

 

The seven proposed townhouses shown above need the following identically worded variance from BZA except for seven different addresses on Herman Avenue and on West 54th.....

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2014/crr06-23-2014.pdf

 

Board of Zoning Appeals

June 23, 2014

 

9:30 Calendar No. 14-080: 5320 Herman Avenue, 5322 Herman Avenue, 5324 Herman Avenue, 5326 Herman Avenue, 1311 West 54th Street, 1313 West 54th Street  Ward 15

Matt Zone

10 Notices

Case Development, owner, proposes to erect one of 7 fee simple townhouses in a B1 Two Family

Residential District; owner appeals for relief from the strict application of the following Sections of the

Cleveland Codified Ordinances:

1. Section 353.01 allows a maximum height of 35 feet in a ‘1’ Height District and 36 feet are

proposed.

2. Section 355.04 allows a maximum gross floor area equal to ½ the total lot area or in this case

5107 square feet and 5404 square feet are proposed.

3. Section 357.04 which requires a 20 foot front yard setback along Herman Ave and a 2 foot

front yard is proposed.

4. Section 357.05 requires a 5 foot side street setback along W. 54th Street and 1 ½ is proposed.

5. Section 357.15 which states that a residence building may be erected in the rear of a main

building in any use district if required front, rear and side yards are provided, the distance

between such building is not less than 40feet and if a free and unobstructed entranceway

is provided for access from the street to the rear building; in this case 23 feet is proposed

between the front and rear building (filed May 15, 2014).

Interesting....why do you think that is?

^It's pretty much the norm in Cleveland.  As written, the city's zoning only permits low density stuff with big setbacks in much of the city, often only detached single family.  So pretty much every townhouse project needs to get variances or zoning changes. It makes development slightly more expensive (which is bad), but it gives the city some discretion approving or denying projects, which can be good or bad.

^100% true.  Adds 5 weeks to every project, and for residential projects that's a long time.

^100% true.  Adds 5 weeks to every project, and for residential projects that's a long time.

 

Wow that's actually a terrifying stat.  What would it take to get that changed? 

^100% true.  Adds 5 weeks to every project, and for residential projects that's a long time.

 

Wow that's actually a terrifying stat.  What would it take to get that changed? 

Adopting a form based zoning code.

We should probably continue the zoning discussion in this thread: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=25222.msg621126#msg621126

We should probably continue the zoning discussion in this thread: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=25222.msg621126#msg621126

 

Good call.

I was at Gypsy Beans today and noticed a First Federal Lakewood banner in the window of Liberty Tax Service on 65th/Detroit.  I thought they were taking over the Chase branch one block down?

 

 

Near West Theater about a week ago in the morning

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and the former City grill being transformed into new restaurant...the Arcadian

 

 

http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2013/11/19/see-architects-rendering-of-new-gordon-square-restaurant

 

 

 

I was at Gypsy Beans today and noticed a First Federal Lakewood banner in the window of Liberty Tax Service on 65th/Detroit.  I thought they were taking over the Chase branch one block down?

 

 

I went by today. The sheet in the window states its a temporary location.

Renderings!!!

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2014/02072014/index.php

 

City Planning Commission

Agenda for February 7, 2014

 

NEAR WEST DESIGN REVIEW

1. NW2014-001 - Breakwater Bluffs Housing Project Conceptual Approval

Project Address: 6102 Breakwater Avenue

Project Representatives: Mary Hada, NRP Group

Paul Glowacki, Dimit Architects

 

 

 

Revised/updated site plan and more renders from today's Planning Commission. This is a pretty big project!

 

NEAR WEST DESIGN REVIEW

1. NW2014-001- Breakwater Bluffs Multi-Family Housing Project

Project Address: 6102 Breakwater Avenue

Project Representatives: Aaron Pechota, NRP Group

Mary Hada, NRP Group

Cheryl Steigerwald, NRP Group

Paul Glowacki, Dimit Architects

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

^I Love it!

Has a suburban vibe to it

Has a suburban vibe to it

 

Maybe in the architecture, but not in the huge scale of it, the density or it being placed up to the sidewalks on almost all fronts. It appears much larger than the first site plan, and it occupies more land. Have they acquired more property for this?

Has a suburban vibe to it

 

Maybe in the architecture, but not in the huge scale of it, the density or it being placed up to the sidewalks on almost all fronts.

 

Many newer suburban apartment projects are large scale and have similar density. Look at those in cities like Westlake, Willoughby, etc.

 

Also like its suburban counterparts, this project has large parking lots and on street right angle parking. Honestly this project would fit into any newer suburb.

Has a suburban vibe to it

 

Maybe in the architecture, but not in the huge scale of it, the density or it being placed up to the sidewalks on almost all fronts.

 

Many newer suburban apartment projects are large scale and have similar density. Look at those in cities like Westlake, Willoughby, etc.

 

Also like its suburban counterparts, this project has large parking lots and on street right angle parking. Honestly this project would fit into any newer suburb.

 

Honestly, I'm not sure what you're expecting here. A skyscraper? This development is adjacent to a residential neighborhood full of single family homes and townhouses. The plans suggest a rather dense development with a mix of townhomes and multifamily apartment buildings, built up close to the sidewalks, with much of the parking hidden behind buildings and off of the street. I've gotta say, I think this is a major win for the neighborhood and, except perhaps in terms of design, not at all suburban.

Great project. Where is this in relation to Detroit Ave?  I couldn't get an address to Google Map.

I understand the argument that we can only use swimming pools ~6 months a year but thank the Lord there is a swimming pool!  I know plenty of people in their 20's and 30's willing to pay more in rent for the opportunity to have access to a swimming pool in/near the city. Columbus has several large apartment complexes with outdoor pools and the only one in Cleveland I can think of is in Lakewood.  I also understand this is near Edgewater but many people prefer the cleanliness (perceived?) of a pool. 

Great project. Where is this in relation to Detroit Ave?  I couldn't get an address to Google Map.

 

The address (6102 Breakwater Avenue) is in the City Planning Commission docket listing that I include when posting site plans, renders, pics, etc. as these appear on the docket.

Has a suburban vibe to it

 

Maybe in the architecture, but not in the huge scale of it, the density or it being placed up to the sidewalks on almost all fronts.

 

Many newer suburban apartment projects are large scale and have similar density. Look at those in cities like Westlake, Willoughby, etc.

 

Also like its suburban counterparts, this project has large parking lots and on street right angle parking. Honestly this project would fit into any newer suburb.

 

I don't think this resembles those.  The resembles the developments you would find in Atlanta, the Galleria area in Houston, and the Virginia part of the DC burbs.

 

I dont like new builds, but I like the fact this is the type of development young renters tend to like.  It should be a hit with the 28-35 year old set as the neighborhood is more mature.  If this was downtown, say North of PHS/CSU 22-30 year olds would be all over this like ants.

 

I hope this is successful and it leads to similar, dense, developments with different architectural style/detail.

What I like about this development is that it is dense enough to likely trigger an interesting mixed-used development in the old Westinghouse complex. While apartments are a natural for the tower, the low-level structure looks like it could be a cool marketplace with shops, cafes and indoor gardens. Heck, it's big enough you could also do things like an indoor walking/jogging track, basketball/tennis/volleyball courts, a mountain bike track and other cool stuff.

Has anything about this project been posted by me or others yet? There's so many projects going on, I'm starting to lose track of them all!

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2014/crr07-07-2014.pdf

 

Board of Zoning Appeals

July 7, 2014

City Hall - Room 514

 

9:30 Calendar No. 14-098: 8301 Detroit Avenue Ward 15

Matt Zone

27 Notices

Emerald Development and Economic Network (Eden), owner, proposes to erect a 3 story apartment

building that will provide 66 dwelling units on the same 72,000 square foot parcel as a ten unit

apartment building; said parcel being split between Two Family Residential and General Retail

Business Zoning Districts. Owner appeals for relief from the following Sections of the Cleveland

Codified Ordinances:

1. Section 337.03 which states that an apartment use is not permitted in a Two Family Residential District.

2. Section 337.08 states that an apartment use is first permitted in a Multi-Family Residential District.

3. Section 355.04 which states that in a ‘B’ Area District the gross floor area of a residential building

cannot exceed ½ of the square footage of the lot or in this case 36,000 square feet and 61, 481 square

feet are proposed; including the existing apartment building.

4. Section 353.01(b) allows a maximum height of 35 feet in a ‘1’ Height District and 43 feet are proposed.

5. Section 357.04 (a) requires a minimum front yard setback of 30 feet and 5 feet are proposed.

6. Section 349.04 requires 76 parking spaces and 47 are provided.

^this will be permanent supportive housing

 

 

^^ Yeah the projects definitely start to run together. I remember it was subsidized housing replacing the subsidized housing already there. Here is what I could find in the search. Thankfully the address on the socket is the same.

 

 

No details on what "new construction" is planned for this site.....

 

Cleveland Landmarks Commission

AGENDA - December 12, 2013

 

Gordon Square Historic District

8301 Detroit Avenue

Demolition and new construction

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2013/12122013/index.php

 

This is what's there now......

http://www.cbhunter.com/Property/OH/44102-1805/Cleveland/8301_Detroit_Ave

 

http://www.chnnet.com/media/documents/chn-collateral/8301-detroit-eaviii-psh.pdf

Hey! No setback, just more subsidized housing.

Great project. Where is this in relation to Detroit Ave?  I couldn't get an address to Google Map.

 

The address (6102 Breakwater Avenue) is in the City Planning Commission docket listing that I include when posting site plans, renders, pics, etc. as these appear on the docket.

 

Thanks.

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2014/06262014/index.php

 

Cleveland Landmarks Commission

AGENDA - June 26, 2014

 

 

 

 

Drove by and saw a dumpster and what looks like demo-in-progress on this building at the S/E corner of W67th and Herman today.

 

Anyone know the plan? Just a private rehab?

 

Does anyone else find the facade mural to be as god-awful as I do?

 

Does anyone else find the facade mural to be as god-awful as I do?

 

I hope that isn't a final, but even if it doesn't it adds a nice punch (pun intended) of color to the area.

 

Drove by and saw a dumpster and what looks like demo-in-progress on this building at the S/E corner of W67th and Herman today.

 

Anyone know the plan? Just a private rehab?

 

Interesting, the property was owned by Rose Zitiello and her husband Peter before 1996. Rose works in the Fair Housing & Consumer Affairs office of the City of Cleveland's Community Department. It has since been owned by John Deleva.

 

It was later condemned by the city, which ordered Deleva to either demolish it or renovate it....

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/bbs/agenda/2014/AGENDA01292014.pdf

 

Docket A-293-13 6609 Herman Avenue WARD: 15

(Matt Zone)

 

John H. Deleva, Owner of the A-2 Assembly – Nite Clubs, Restaurants Two & One/half Story

Wood Frame/Siding Masonry Veneer Property appeals from a CONDEMNATION OR-DER—

MAIN STRUCTURE, dated November 04, 2013; appellant request an extension of time to

evaluate future development opportunities and/or a demolition plan.

___________

 

Who is John Deleva?

 

http://www.thedelevagroup.com/home.html

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/john-deleva/10/ba9/592

Nice to see more rehab in the area.

Who is John Deleva.  That's funny KJP.

 

About time they got moving on that dump.  Plenty more distressed properties those guys own that need attention as well.

Who is John Deleva.  That's funny KJP.

 

 

I take it that he's famous to you?

 

 

Drove by and saw a dumpster and what looks like demo-in-progress on this building at the S/E corner of W67th and Herman today.

 

 

 

 

It was later condemned by the city, which ordered Deleva to either demolish it or renovate it....

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/bbs/agenda/2014/AGENDA01292014.pdf

 

Docket A-293-13 6609 Herman Avenue WARD: 15

(Matt Zone)

 

 

 

Here's on drive back fromwork today:

 

 

 

 

 

I guess he chose .....demolish!

Guess so!

I guess the Tyvex was from a previous attempt!  I thought it was new! Glad they chose renovation at the place around the corner!

Who is John Deleva.  That's funny KJP.

 

 

I take it that he's famous to you?

 

Famous?  Nahh.

 

I guess I'd say that the extended family is infamous in that hood. 

 

 

Well, that's sorta famous....

There's a home on 69th, just up from Caruso that says DELEVA on it.

Too bad. I had dreams of turning that place into a sweet Italian restaurant to complement Stone Mad across the street.

Too bad. I had dreams of turning that place into a sweet Italian restaurant to complement Stone Mad across the street.

 

Bet he turns that lot into parking. Building more off-street surface parking in a popular, historic, walkable neighborhood is like the snake eating its tail.