July 12, 201410 yr This is a link to a LOT of pictures of the rehab my parents did on their building on W. 69th. My great-grandparents built it in 1914. The neighborhood is really changing! https://www.dropbox.com/sh/edu5nno9305gx6l/AAAHvaZoqTmRoxgrorq8Yz8la
July 12, 201410 yr This is a link to a LOT of pictures of the rehab my parents did on their building on W. 69th. My great-grandparents built it in 1914. The neighborhood is really changing! https://www.dropbox.com/sh/edu5nno9305gx6l/AAAHvaZoqTmRoxgrorq8Yz8la Wow.
July 12, 201410 yr This is a link to a LOT of pictures of the rehab my parents did on their building on W. 69th. My great-grandparents built it in 1914. The neighborhood is really changing! https://www.dropbox.com/sh/edu5nno9305gx6l/AAAHvaZoqTmRoxgrorq8Yz8la That is the coolest thing I have ever seen.
July 12, 201410 yr This is a link to a LOT of pictures of the rehab my parents did on their building on W. 69th. My great-grandparents built it in 1914. The neighborhood is really changing! https://www.dropbox.com/sh/edu5nno9305gx6l/AAAHvaZoqTmRoxgrorq8Yz8la Welcome to Urban Ohio. That's a great building, I'm glad to see it's getting rehabbed. We had a poster here a while back- DanB- who if I recall correctly was the owner of that building. I'm assuming you're his daughter, then?
July 12, 201410 yr Too bad. I had dreams of turning that place into a sweet Italian restaurant to complement Stone Mad across the street. Bet he turns that lot into parking. Building more off-street surface parking in a popular, historic, walkable neighborhood is like the snake eating its tail. Why so negative, when he's been nothing but good for the neighborhood? Do you know something we don't? I've done some investigating, seems there are good and not so good opinions of the family. A lot done by the Deleva family in the neighborhood, from rehabbing, to demolishing eye-sores, to just seeing that the neighborhood is kept clean and the Italian traditions are maintained. The not so good is that it may be a little traditionally heavy-handed.
July 13, 201410 yr You're right. I felt uncomfortable in posting it, but left it up anyway. My bad. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 13, 201410 yr Slightly (or more than slightly OT) -- But the OLMC Procession will have an altered parade route this year due to the construction. (They usually come down 70th to Father Caruso dr then back up 69th). This year they will cut right through the backyard driveway of Casa Belvedere condos. That gives me the best view ever .. 10 feet right out my kitchen window! :)
July 24, 201410 yr Looks like there was a demo team in asbestos suits tearing out at the brick building at 58th and Herman (S/E corner). Anyone know what's going on? __ On an additional note, the demolished building at 67th and Herman now looks to be in the midst of having some decorative landscaping with some winding stones and such. Will try to remember to post a pic later today.
July 24, 201410 yr Looks like there was a demo team in asbestos suits tearing out at the brick building at 58th and Herman (S/E corner). Anyone know what's going on? __ On an additional note, the demolished building at 67th and Herman now looks to be in the midst of having some decorative landscaping with some winding stones and such. Will try to remember to post a pic later today. Interesting. The property is owned by Master Chrome Service Inc. as it has been since at least 1975 (the farthest back the county's online property records go). So there's been no property sale or listing of one yet. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 24, 201410 yr SE corner would be Master Chrome, right? I heard a whle back that a developer doing another local project was interested in the building on the NW corner....but that was just speculation at the time
July 24, 201410 yr OK guys. Sorry. I'm even slower than my prior post made me look. A bit of time on google maps and I realize that the building at the S/E corner of 58th and Tillman is actually just the southern extension of the Templin-Bradley building at 5700 Detroit. :oops: :oops:
July 24, 201410 yr OK guys. Sorry. I'm even slower than my prior post made me look. A bit of time on google maps and I realize that the building at the S/E corner of 58th and Tillman is actually just the southern extension of the Templin-Bradley building at 5700 Detroit. :oops: :oops: We have a "like" button on here but I'm trying to find the "fail" button to no avail! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 28, 201410 yr Well I thing we know what is going to happen to the Industrial building be taken down at the corner of 70th and Father Caruso for the entrance into the park. As well as the the lot on the north east corner of the current battery park site. Will cross post in the Shoreway conversion thread http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2014/07/vintage_development_group_plan.html#incart_river Marous said Vintage is seeing considerable demand for apartments and for-sale homes in the city. Buying activity has picked up at Battery Park, the company's large residential community that overlooks Edgewater Park from a perch between West 73rd and West 76th streets. Vintage is in the early design stages for a 90-unit apartment building at Battery Park and a 34-unit loft condominium building. Condo construction didn't make sense on the Ohio City site, though, because of the larger size of the project and the need for early buyer commitments.
July 28, 201410 yr I think residents are starting to move into the "Shoreway" building at 76th adjacent to Battery Park. Quite a bit of miscellaneous work still to do but a fantastic project nonetheless. Vintage has an uphill battle building a 90 apartment building at Battery Park. The development was planned, marketed & sold as a condo community, not an apartment community. They will probably have to get the bylaws amended to allow an apartment building and they'll need the residents to agree to make that change. Stay tuned as the drama unfolds there...
July 28, 201410 yr I have a friend slated to move into the Shoreway building. They are giving new residents staggered times throughout this coming weekend of when they can move in and they are providing some movers to help everyone.
August 1, 201410 yr I have a friend slated to move into the Shoreway building. They are giving new residents staggered times throughout this coming weekend of when they can move in and they are providing some movers to help everyone. I looked at several units about a month ago and he promised they would be ready by August 1. I didn't know how they'd make it because there was so much work to be done still. I'll never cease to be amazed how fast these guys can work. The windows in this building are incredible.
August 2, 201410 yr Author Posts about rental vs. homeownership have been moved to a new thread. http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,29485.0.html Just a reminder - forumers are more than welcome to create new threads to continue valid off-topic discussions, the Admins and Mods are happy to help move posts, etc.. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
August 4, 201410 yr I know its been a while since you have seen a Cash Mob...but there is one taking place at the Gordon Square Farmers Market on Wednesday, August 6th from 4-7. If you have the availability, come check out the great vendors and products being sold. The market repurposed itself this year after a few years on Saturday mornings with only a couple of vendors. The new Wednesday format has about 20 vendors from fresh locally sourced meats and cheeses, produce grown within a mile of the market, donuts, pies, pickles, arts, pizza, etc. There will be live music and a great all around atmosphere. The neighbors would like to promote this market so more people know about it and it can be sustainable for years to come. Official event invite: https://www.facebook.com/events/1472706576310531/?ref=br_tf
August 12, 201410 yr Here's a few developments on the west side along Detroit Avenue...... This is the Magnolia apartments, 8016 Detroit Ave, under renovation. This is the new Near West Theater on West 67th just north of Detroit Avenue in the Gordon Square area. This is the former Templin-Bradley building, 5700 Detroit Avenue, getting renovated into apartments. Mariners Watch Apartments, 3107 Detroit Ave. Another apartment complex will soon rise just west of this development. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 12, 201410 yr Exciting times and more proof of growth on the near westside...Thanks for the updated pics KJP!
August 13, 201410 yr Thanks for the updates KJP! Can you remind me what's going up next to Mariners Watch? Lots going on in that hood, and I get them all mixed up. Edit: I found it. The Vintage development in the old bathhouse is going up next to Mariners Watch. I believe they said construction to start next spring.
August 13, 201410 yr Does anyone know if the Magnolia Apts renovation will be market rate or subsidized? This is actually a fairly large development and would be a game changer for that area if they were market rate
August 13, 201410 yr Does anyone know if the Magnolia Apts renovation will be market rate or subsidized? This is actually a fairly large development and would be a game changer for that area if they were market rate It's low-income housing for families, seniors and the disabled: http://www.ohiohome.org/newsreleases/rlsboard_dec12.aspx FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Thursday, December 20, 2012 Media Contact: Arlyne Alston Email: [email protected] Phone: 614.387.2863 OHFA BOARD APPROVES MORE THAN $6.3 MILLION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMUNITIES ACROSS OHIO COLUMBUS – The Ohio Housing Finance Agency Board approved more than $6.3 million through the Housing Development Assistance Program (HDAP) to provide flexible, low-interest financing for affordable housing developments during a meeting on Wednesday. Funding for HDAP comes from the federal HOME program and the Ohio Housing Trust Fund (OHTF). The developments receiving HDAP funds include: Magnolia on Detroit Apartments in Cleveland, Cuyahoga County – $650,000 in HDAP Magnolia on Detroit Apartments involves the acquisition and rehabilitation of a housing community for families in Cleveland, Cuyahoga County. The community consists of 126 units in six three-story buildings. Work on the properties will include new energy efficient appliances, carpet and floor coverings, new windows and new doors. A new community building will be constructed as well as 37 additional parking spaces and a community garden will be added to the property. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 13, 201410 yr Thanks for the updates KJP! Can you remind me what's going up next to Mariners Watch? Lots going on in that hood, and I get them all mixed up. Edit: I found it. The Vintage development in the old bathhouse is going up next to Mariners Watch. I believe they said construction to start next spring. Well, it's going where the bathhouse is currently. They're surely tearing it down.
August 16, 201410 yr Is the bathhouse worth saving? I tried a flyover on Apple Maps but I didn't see what building this was...
August 16, 201410 yr ^If your question is does it have any architectural or historical significance the answer is no. It is an ugly blue box that was built sometime in the 80's and has been vacant for a good while.
August 16, 201410 yr Is the bathhouse worth saving? I tried a flyover on Apple Maps but I didn't see what building this was... https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTe-DvK06UdiQXDgpaVq5yyzW7Yyk7xaiiE5vHjat55skwDE2A0
August 16, 201410 yr ^If your question is does it have any architectural or historical significance the answer is no. It is an ugly blue box that was built sometime in the 80's and has been vacant for a good while. That building is only 10 years old.
August 16, 201410 yr Thanks for the info...not quite the old Roman or Turkish Bath building I envisioned! Go ahead and level it... :)
August 16, 201410 yr Is the bathhouse worth saving? I tried a flyover on Apple Maps but I didn't see what building this was... Apple maps is your problem! HA!
August 16, 201410 yr Author ^I am pretty sure it is much older than that. I'm pretty sure it opened around 2002-2003. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
August 17, 201410 yr Is the bathhouse worth saving? I tried a flyover on Apple Maps but I didn't see what building this was... Apple maps is your problem! HA! I don't like how there's no street view on Apple Maps...but the fact that CLE is only city in Ohio to have the 'flyover' mode is pretty cool...
September 3, 201410 yr The Gordon Square Arts District finishes its $30 million capital campaign - and launches a new master plan http://t.co/JmMpLYoEBQ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 20, 201410 yr Some love from the NY Times.... http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/09/21/travel/in-cleveland-adding-life-where-grit-once-prevailed.html?referrer= "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 30, 201410 yr The speed of development in this neighborhood is amazing. It's not just bars and restaurants either. It seems like any given street you walk down you'll pass multiple houses being renovated. craft sandwich and beer bistro planned for gordon square will offer delivery service It seems there's a new venue with reclaimed wood and industrial furnishings opening up every day on the near west side of Cleveland. Yet Jon Mavrakis, who is opening up the new craft sandwich and beer bistro Local West in Gordon Square with his dad and brother, says his new eatery will fill a gap in the marketplace. Every sandwich will be locally sourced, and they'll be priced between $8 and $14. Local West also plans to offer delivery service, something that is not widely available. freshwatercleveland.com/devnews/localwestbistro092914.aspx Go West, Young Man: Ohio City Mainstay Matt Stipe Sets Up Shop in Detroit Shoreway with Banter Matt Stipe was the first person Sam McNulty hired when he was opening Bier Markt way back in 2005. Stipe stayed on for years, helping to open Bar Cento, Market Garden Brewery and Nano Brew along the way. He's been in the "business" for half his life, boosting his spirits sophistication with stints in Chicago, New York and Denver. And soon, he'll endeavor to make his own mark on the Cleveland food and drink scene when he opens Banter on the western edge of the Detroit Shoreway neighborhood. http://www.clevescene.com/cleveland/go-west-young-man-ohio-city-mainstay-matt-stipe-sets-up-shop-in-detroit-shoreway-with-banter/Content?oid=4383030
October 1, 201410 yr The speed of development in this neighborhood is amazing. It's not just bars and restaurants either. It seems like any given street you walk down you'll pass multiple houses being renovated. craft sandwich and beer bistro planned for gordon square will offer delivery service It seems there's a new venue with reclaimed wood and industrial furnishings opening up every day on the near west side of Cleveland. Yet Jon Mavrakis, who is opening up the new craft sandwich and beer bistro Local West in Gordon Square with his dad and brother, says his new eatery will fill a gap in the marketplace. Every sandwich will be locally sourced, and they'll be priced between $8 and $14. Local West also plans to offer delivery service, something that is not widely available. freshwatercleveland.com/devnews/localwestbistro092914.aspx Go West, Young Man: Ohio City Mainstay Matt Stipe Sets Up Shop in Detroit Shoreway with Banter Matt Stipe was the first person Sam McNulty hired when he was opening Bier Markt way back in 2005. Stipe stayed on for years, helping to open Bar Cento, Market Garden Brewery and Nano Brew along the way. He's been in the "business" for half his life, boosting his spirits sophistication with stints in Chicago, New York and Denver. And soon, he'll endeavor to make his own mark on the Cleveland food and drink scene when he opens Banter on the western edge of the Detroit Shoreway neighborhood. http://www.clevescene.com/cleveland/go-west-young-man-ohio-city-mainstay-matt-stipe-sets-up-shop-in-detroit-shoreway-with-banter/Content?oid=4383030 It's great. I am particularly excited about Banter. Craft beer and poutine... what's not to like!
October 1, 201410 yr The best part about those two new establishments is that they are at the far western fringe of Detroit Shoreway. A block or two to the west and it's into Cudell. Hopefully within 5 years redevelopment can finally break past the intersection of Detroit and Lake.
October 1, 201410 yr The best part about those two new establishments is that they are at the far western fringe of Detroit Shoreway. A block or two to the west and it's into Cudell. Hopefully within 5 years redevelopment can finally break past the intersection of Detroit and Lake. Amen. Connection connection connection! Something Cleveland has been lacking in this urban regeneration!
October 1, 201410 yr The best part about those two new establishments is that they are at the far western fringe of Detroit Shoreway. A block or two to the west and it's into Cudell. Hopefully within 5 years redevelopment can finally break past the intersection of Detroit and Lake. Here's hoping! I still think the east side of the hood will win out in the connectivity race.
October 1, 201410 yr The best part about those two new establishments is that they are at the far western fringe of Detroit Shoreway. A block or two to the west and it's into Cudell. Hopefully within 5 years redevelopment can finally break past the intersection of Detroit and Lake. Here's hoping! I still think the east side of the hood will win out in the connectivity race. Probably true as Ohio City has much more buzz, but then again Clifton/Baltic and Edgewater have a history of neighborhood stability, and the Enhance Clifton project is quickly breathing new found energy back into it.
October 1, 201410 yr The best part about those two new establishments is that they are at the far western fringe of Detroit Shoreway. A block or two to the west and it's into Cudell. Hopefully within 5 years redevelopment can finally break past the intersection of Detroit and Lake. Agreed. That stretch of Detroit between Lake and the RTA is rough. Maybe someday those houses N of Detroit on that section will become more desirable.
October 1, 201410 yr It's gonna take quite a few "pioneers" or it would need to be a rapid flip. There's quite a bit of crime and such in that stretch. I don't remember the housing stock very well...Google Maps here I come.
October 1, 201410 yr Agreed. That stretch of Detroit between Lake and the RTA is rough. Maybe someday those houses N of Detroit on that section will become more desirable. Gordon Square was pretty rough 10 years ago too. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 1, 201410 yr It's gonna take quite a few "pioneers" or it would need to be a rapid flip. There's quite a bit of crime and such in that stretch. I don't remember the housing stock very well...Google Maps here I come. I don't know about the general housing stock, but there are some decent buildings that front Detroit. And if I recall correctly, there's a big empty lot across from Cocktails (could be wrong, haven't been there in a while), and that could be ripe for a Battery Park-esq development if that stretch starts to improve. But I think in order for the neighborhood to connect on the west side, something needs to be done with that Happy's Pizza and Burger King (next to the soon-to-be Local West). If that whole lot could be demolished and turned into some apartments with retail, it could be a game changer.
October 1, 201410 yr Agreed. That stretch of Detroit between Lake and the RTA is rough. Maybe someday those houses N of Detroit on that section will become more desirable. Gordon Square was pretty rough 10 years ago too. Need a lot more development on the North side of Detroit before you see significant spillover on the other side. Some nice housing on Franklin & Clinton near 65th plus the infill of townhomes at Waverly station... I think we'll start to see it reach a tipping point of income to support a few more basic service retail stores.
October 1, 201410 yr It's gonna take quite a few "pioneers" or it would need to be a rapid flip. There's quite a bit of crime and such in that stretch. I don't remember the housing stock very well...Google Maps here I come. I don't know about the general housing stock, but there are some decent buildings that front Detroit. And if I recall correctly, there's a big empty lot across from Cocktails (could be wrong, haven't been there in a while), and that could be ripe for a Battery Park-esq development if that stretch starts to improve. But I think in order for the neighborhood to connect on the west side, something needs to be done with that Happy's Pizza and Burger King (next to the soon-to-be Local West). If that whole lot could be demolished and turned into some apartments with retail, it could be a game changer. I agree. We have the block of buildings just east and then it dies around Lake. I did a street level view and as of a few years ago, the housing looks decent. Definite opportunities for redevelopment and lots of brick apartment buildings. I don't see Happy's going anywhere as they just built it a few years ago I think (unless it was a reno) and the empty land you speak of is Trinity West I believe which has been available for quite some time.
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