I mean this development is hardly 'car dependent now and forever.' its a short walk to detroit, there is a small specialty store that is about to open (vita urbana) and its not that far of a walk to shop n save, the little meat market next to it, and the new mediterranean market on detroit. an urban neighborhood can still be urban even if each specific building doesn't include shops. we aren't dense enough to have retail on the ground floor of everything

 

Nobody said every structure should be mixed-use.  Perusing google maps, I see roughly a dozen new multi-unit structures within Battery Park, and then there are the new ones upcoming.  Do any of these include any mixed-use at all?  I'm only suggesting a small number of units for neighborhood service type retail or office uses.  And a grocery-- of a different market segment than the ones on Detroit-- wouldn't hurt. 

 

I don't believe areas encompassing this many blocks, with this kind of residential density, this close to downtown, should be built as entirely single-use.  There has always been some degree of concentration along major corridors and in sub-downtowns throughout the city, but that always went with some degree of dispersal in the residential areas themselves.  The scale of redevelopment in Battery Park is a wonderful thing to see, but given that scale, I just think a tad more mixed-use is warranted.  A shade more.  Something along those lines. 

Without SOME sort of mixed-use properties, these neighborhoods become nothing more than a high-density cul-de-sac.....

 

It is exactly a high density culdesac.  Precisely what it was designed to be. Now talk to any retail experts and they'll tell you you need about demographics in the thousands to support real retail.  BP will never be there.

Without SOME sort of mixed-use properties, these neighborhoods become nothing more than a high-density cul-de-sac.....

There are already 4 retail spaces in Battery Park.

Without SOME sort of mixed-use properties, these neighborhoods become nothing more than a high-density cul-de-sac.....

There are already 4 retail spaces in Battery Park.

 

I didn't say there wasn't.  Obviously the Battery Park Powerhouse is a part of the development. 

Redirected from the Ohio City thread.....

 

Yes.  I drove out Lorain last summer and noticed this.  It just has so many pockets, both good and bad.  It's really narrow from W. 25 to (I think) just beyond Denison where it gets wider.  The most intact places are around Fulton, that antiques section just before horribly destructive I-90 west, Denison (great potential there) and around W. 117th.  I'm frustrated with the wasted TOD potential around the W. 65 Red Line station.  RTA rebuilt that station 12 years ago, but aside from the Eco Village townhomes which opened in anticipation of the station rebuild, there's been nothing in terms of TOD built -- unless you count the nearby, substantial, Waverly Station and St. Stephens Court townhouse developments off Lorain.

 

I just wish the developers could get that very promising, substantial mixed-use complex off the ground at Market Sq. plaza and the W. 25 Rapid station.

 

It's not a high-growth area. You won't see TOD-scale development around the West 65 station until Ohio City's development expands west or Gordon Square's spreads south to this area. Until then, the only way I can see this being accelerated is by the CDC, the city and/or GCRTA buying up property around the station and clearing out the pedestrian-unfriendly uses. It has to be done systematically so that property owners do not feel like they are being singled out. It has to be part of general civic improvement plan.

Does anyone have any information about a building being renovated on Franklin near w58th?  It's a beautiful brick commercial building that just had new front windows put in and new lighting on what looks like a front patio.  It looks like it would be a restaurant or bar. 

It's going to be an antique store that will be open by appointment

Hey guys- check out this letter from some organized residents I've been working with in the neighborhood fighting against a proposed zoning change at W. 73rd and Herman, north of Detroit.  The zoning change would allow for an industrial building to become a drug rehab facility.

 

 

Hello,

 

On October 14th, 2015 the property located at 1345 West 73rd Street transferred title to LIRC Inc. If you are unfamiliar with the exact layout of the neighborhood, this property directly abuts Our Lady Mount Carmel's rear soccer field.  The new owners of this property intend to open Lean In Recovery Center, a drug and alcohol “sober living community”. They intend the new for-profit, live-in facility to serve 30 men, who have been sober 30-90 days.

 

The owners of LIRC Inc. seek four zoning variances in order to open the “sober living community”. While the specific variances may seem trivial, if they are not granted, the facility will not be able to open. The hearing has been continued to April 18th, at 9:30 AM before the Board of Zoning Appeals at City Hall, room 514.

 

For a multitude of reasons, we believe 1345 West 73rd Street becoming a drug and alcohol recovery center for men is neither appropriate, nor the best use of the valuable land in our neighborhood.

 

After reading LIRC’s answers to our neighborhood’s questions, we have taken issue with a number of professional features of the recovery center, not the least of which being LIRC’s for-profit nature and the complete lack of medical staff on-site. If you would like a copy of these questions and answers, please don’t hesitate to email us.

 

There are two important components that can help us prevent Lean In Recovery Center from opening. First, we must show the BZA that a recovery center is not a legal use of this land. Without any doubt, LIRC will be represented by counsel at the Board of Zoning Appeals hearing in April. We have discussed this case with the attorneys at Ott & Associates, and intend to hire them as our legal counsel.  Unfortunately, the neighborhood has no official fund for this, so we need to raise the funds necessary to stop this facility from ever opening its doors. We greatly appreciate any financial assistance you can give. Our GoFundMe is: https://www.gofundme.com/w73legaldefense

 

Second, we need to show the BZA, that the community, under no uncertain circumstances, opposes the opening of this recovery center at 1345 West 73rd. To do this, we need as many people attending the Board of Zoning Appeals hearing as possible. We do not question the nature of these business owners’ intentions, nor do we deny the national need for proper chemical dependency treatment and recovery facilities. However, this is not an appropriate location.

 

We are determined to prevent this facility from opening next to Our Lady Mount Carmel School, and we hope that you will join us. Please feel free to contact either of us at the information provided below for more information or ways that you can help.

 

[email protected]

 

[email protected]

 

Does anyone have any information about a building being renovated on Franklin near w58th?  It's a beautiful brick commercial building that just had new front windows put in and new lighting on what looks like a front patio.  It looks like it would be a restaurant or bar. 

 

If its on the southwest side, then i know. some guy bought it about 8 years ago and has been rehabbing it piece by piece while living in it. I doubt it would have a restaurant or bar in it given how he's made it his castle.

It's going to be an antique store that will be open by appointment

That's annoying. Just like the ones you have to be buzzed in. I don't even bother. The only thing that makes sense about that, I guess, is it's not in a real pedestrian area. It's good that there will be another shopping option though in the general area!

Do we/you know where Zone is on all of this?  is he going to allow this use, against the master plan?  or is he against it?

 

Where are the block clubs/DSCDO?

 

 

 

Just listed two days ago. Based on the most recent Google Maps overview, it doesn't seem the existing house is torn down yet, but I haven't been down that street in a while to confirm.

 

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/1350-W-67th-St_Cleveland_OH_44102_M33724-14160

Not sure how these really fall in line with the tiny house movement as they aren't that "tiny" and are really expensive, comparatively. But, to each their own.

 

Two tiny houses will hit the market in Cleveland's Detroit Shoreway in June

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio – A local builder aims to start construction in the spring on two tiny houses on Cleveland's west side, in a project that might offer a template for modest – and relatively affordable – new homes in popular city neighborhoods.

 

Sutton Development Group will build the houses, each 583 square feet, on a vacant lot at West 58th Street and Pear Avenue. Construction is scheduled to wrap up by mid-June. The houses could be listed for sale at $125,000 to $150,000 each.

 

A collaboration between a neighborhood nonprofit, Citizens Bank and Sutton, the houses will be the first such freestanding, permanent, pint-sized dwellings built in the city at a time when TV shows like "Tiny House Hunters" have helped create a cult following for smaller-than-average living.

Wow, they completely missed the point of a "tiny house". These are coming in at $257/s.f. with the land.

Anything other than the kitchen and bathrooms is cheap space to build, hence the high price per sf for a house that doesn't have much space.

yanni_gogolak[/member] - Yeah, and there are new(ish) townhouses that sold for that much. I think better, denser infill development should be going into that neighborhood. Not to mention, there are plenty of homes that could be bought and rehabbed for that amount of money, shouldn't that be more of a priority in our city? Especially since we have so many vacant houses?

Do we/you know where Zone is on all of this?  is he going to allow this use, against the master plan?  or is he against it?

 

Where are the block clubs/DSCDO?

 

The Edgewater Hill Block Club has worked with DSCDO to arrange multiple community information meetings and sent emails with meeting schedules, background on Lean In, detailed summary of questions posed to Lean In leadership. If you want to receive any of this information or be added to the Block Club email list, please email [email protected]

 

The BOZA hearing date has been moved up to March 14th. the Block Club encourages anyone who can to attend this meeting to ensure the Board is clear on the community's position. Lean In has had their supporters at every public forum and is sure to have them at this hearing.

This building is currently being rehabilitated to higher end apartments. Rents will be in the $1100-1300 range. This is directly across from the tiny house project.

Anything other than the kitchen and bathrooms is cheap space to build, hence the high price per sf for a house that doesn't have much space.

 

Yea, $30k for each, and that's a really nice bathroom. Say you have 400 s.f. left, that comes out to $100k at at 100/ s.f. for the remainder which is more than achievable. I've already knocked $50k off and that's without even thinking.

 

Factory Demo at 70th and Father Caruso underway right now.  :)

FYI there's a petition circulating to replace the bus stops.

 

https://www.change.org/p/support-retrofitting-or-replacing-detroit-shoreway-s-bus-shelters?recruiter=63610328&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink

BREAKWATER BLUFFS TOWNHOMES

 

Project Information

 

Near West Case #  NW 2016-006

 

Address: W. 58th Street & Breakwater Avenue

Company: Triban Investment, LLC

Architect: Knez Homes, Inc.

Description:

 

Proposed construction of a 24-unit, for sale townhome development situated at the NW corner of the W. 58th Street-Breakwater Avenue intersection in the Detroit-Shoreway neighborhood.  The project site is directly adjacent to the 400-unit apartment project known as The Edison.

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/brd/detailDR.php?ID=2083&CASE=NW%202016-006

I thought that was part of the Edison project site.

I thought that was part of the Edison project site.

 

Me too. The site was cleared at the same as the Breakwater Bluffs development.

I hadn't previously noticed, but see the below site plan from a Jan 2016 Freshwater piece showing the separate townhouse project.

http://www.freshwatercleveland.com/devnews/theedison01816.aspx

 

 

Also, just wanted to bump a question I asked a few weeks ago in the Battery Park thread:

How much of the old Paramount complex on West 58th has been demolished for Breakwater Bluffs. Is the everything south of the tall Westinghouse Bldg gone now?

 

If viewed in googlemaps Lite mode, this aerial shows the Paramount complex in mid demo, but not sure if the plan was to finish the job or leave some of it standing... http://bit.ly/1T2mUEs. I should probably look on the county GIS site to see where the property lines are.

 

 

everyhthing left of the entryway in this photo has been demolished

 

^Awesome, thanks! A bit of a relief for me. I love hulking old industrial complexes like that and can hold out hope a little longer that the remaining portion survives as part of a future Westinghouse redevelopment (garage?).

I thought that was part of the Edison project site.

 

Me too. The site was cleared at the same as the Breakwater Bluffs development.

 

I actually thought that parcel was a vacant lot.  Streetview shows that.

Townhouses to rise along West Shoreway

 

 

A more than $10 million townhouse development is taking shape for the Detroit-Shoreway neighborhood of Cleveland near the Shoreway and Lake Erie.

 

This time it’s Breakwater Bluffs, a 24-unit project proposed by an affiliate of Knez Homes, a suburban builder with an increasing appetite for developing new homes in urban Cleveland. The proposed project is at West 58th Street and Breakwater Boulevard, near the well-known Westinghouse curve. Bo Knez, the owner of Knez Homes, said he undertook the project because of the site’s amenities, from being able to walk to the lakefront or local restaurants as well as downtown and marina views.

 

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20160313/NEWS/160319941/townhouses-to-rise-along-west-shoreway

Do we/you know where Zone is on all of this?  is he going to allow this use, against the master plan?  or is he against it?

 

Where are the block clubs/DSCDO?

 

The Edgewater Hill Block Club has worked with DSCDO to arrange multiple community information meetings and sent emails with meeting schedules, background on Lean In, detailed summary of questions posed to Lean In leadership. If you want to receive any of this information or be added to the Block Club email list, please email [email protected]

 

The BOZA hearing date has been moved up to March 14th. the Block Club encourages anyone who can to attend this meeting to ensure the Board is clear on the community's position. Lean In has had their supporters at every public forum and is sure to have them at this hearing.

 

From what I hear, this Lean In Recovery was rejected by BOZA. Building purchased for over 300,000. Going rate was 225000 from Vintge. These owners maybe should've done some due diligence before opening up the checkbook.  I'm sure they will appeal

Even if the use is denied, it's not a terrible investment

^depends. If u buy w the intent to make significant revenue with in a year, it's good. If you can afford to sit on it, it's good. If u can't afford to sit on it...then you will probably sell at a loss. Vintage isn't paying 325 for it or they would've initially

Construction at Breakwater Bluffs today.

 

Shot from W.65th just north of Breakwater and on Breakwater roughly 60th respectively.

 

 

Drove through there over the weekend and saw more than one elevator shaft under construction for what appeared to be more than one building. Glad to see that multiple buildings are going up simultaneously.

 

The factory demolition between 70th and 73rd going fast. 

 

 

Nice open view with it out of the way.  (This pic taken standing near the RR tracks at 70th looking South-West)

They are pouring pads at Breakwater Bluffs

 

 

 

 

Looks like a farm where they grow elevator shafts.

Board of Zoning Appeals

APRIL 25, 2016

 

9:30

Calendar No. 16-048: 5304 Detroit Ave. Ward 15

Matt Zone

13 Notices

Jose Casiano, owner, proposes to change use from a store and 2 apartment units to gallery assembly

and café in a C2 Local Retail Business District and Pedestrian Retail Overlay District. The owner

appeals for relief from the following sections of the Cleveland Codified Ordinances:

1. Section 343.01 which states that gallery/assembly use is not permitted in a Local Retail

Business District but first permitted in a General Retail Business District.

2. Section 349.04 which states that 9 spaces are required reduced to 6 spaces due to the

Pedestrian Retail Overlay reduction of 1/3.

3. Section 343.23(h) which states that not less than 60% of front façade must be composed of

transparent windows or doors. (Filed March 7, 2016)

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2016/pdf/NW_Agenda4-27-16.pdf

 

Near West Design Review District

Agenda

(8:30 a.m., Wednesday, April 27th, 2016)

Dollar Bank, 3115 West 25th Street

 

8:30 a.m. 1. NW 2016-015: W. 54th Street Townhomes ©

W. 54

th Street & Bridge Court

Project Representatives: Martin Smith, President, W. 54th Townhomes, LLC;

Barry Smith, Novus Architects.

Proposed construction of two separate buildings, each containing three for-sale

townhome units ranging in size from 1,600 to 1,800 SF per unit. Units will each

contain 2 bedrooms, 2.5 baths, with some featuring 1-car garages and others 2-car

garages. All units will have rooftop decks.

And the foundation has begun....

And the foundation has begun....

And the foundation has begun....

 

On what? The West 54th townhomes?

Sorry, this is breakwater bluffs, which I believe has a new name (breakwater between 58 + 65)

Is the warehouse in the pictures above occupied or abandoned? I'd love to see that demo'ed and replaced with more townhomes. Also, I think they could do a cool conversion on the Westinghouse building, but the downside would be a view of the water treatment plant (including the wonderful smells that accompany that view).

Gottaplan would know the answer to that

Has anything about this project been posted by me or others yet? There's so many projects going on, I'm starting to lose track of them all!

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2014/crr07-07-2014.pdf

 

Board of Zoning Appeals

July 7, 2014

City Hall - Room 514

 

9:30 Calendar No. 14-098: 8301 Detroit Avenue Ward 15

Matt Zone

27 Notices

Emerald Development and Economic Network (Eden), owner, proposes to erect a 3 story apartment

building that will provide 66 dwelling units on the same 72,000 square foot parcel as a ten unit

apartment building; said parcel being split between Two Family Residential and General Retail

Business Zoning Districts. Owner appeals for relief from the following Sections of the Cleveland

Codified Ordinances:

1. Section 337.03 which states that an apartment use is not permitted in a Two Family Residential District.

2. Section 337.08 states that an apartment use is first permitted in a Multi-Family Residential District.

3. Section 355.04 which states that in a ‘B’ Area District the gross floor area of a residential building

cannot exceed ½ of the square footage of the lot or in this case 36,000 square feet and 61, 481 square

feet are proposed; including the existing apartment building.

4. Section 353.01(b) allows a maximum height of 35 feet in a ‘1’ Height District and 43 feet are proposed.

5. Section 357.04 (a) requires a minimum front yard setback of 30 feet and 5 feet are proposed.

6. Section 349.04 requires 76 parking spaces and 47 are provided.

 

An overlooked project....

 

20160503_155541-1 by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr

Is this low income housing?

Is this low income housing?

Chronic homelessness and Severe Mental Illness, similar to their other locations (one is on Euclid by Aldi). I think they usually do a pretty good job with design all things considered.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/pdrealestate/plaindealer/index.ssf/2014/08/eden_starts_demolition_for_newest_project_to_aid_chronic_homeless.html

 

 

Interesting tidbit I've heard. That housing project is the first development under the new urban form overlay district, which is essentially Cleveland's version of experimenting with form-based code. I'd expect that Cleveland's future citywide form-based code will be similar to this district.