CYAN PARK TOWNHOMES

 

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Near West Case #  NW 2017-021

Address: 1318 West 58th Street

Company: Vision, LLC

Architect: Works Architecture

Description:

 

Proposed construction of a 20-unit townhouse development in the Detroit-Shoreway neighborhood

Notes:

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/brd/detailDR.php?ID=2516&CASE=NW%202017-021

Lots happening in that neighborhood with more coming. The owner of the B&B brownstones on Prospect Avenue recently bought a couple of nice old brick buildings in this neighborhood, but alas something bigger might stunt her plans.

Lots happening in that neighborhood with more coming. The owner of the B&B brownstones on Prospect Avenue recently bought a couple of nice old brick buildings in this neighborhood, but alas something bigger might stunt her plans.

 

Anything you can share - location-wise?

Same street as the project post above.

Matt Zone

16 mins

 

W. 73rd Street Improvements Traffic Update

Detroit Avenue to Fr. Frascati

Monday, July 17, 2017

 

Expect additional traffic notices as improvements continue

 

CLEVELAND – On July 17, as a part of the City’s ongoing road improvement program, work will commence on its W. 73rd Street Project. A local detour route will be implemented for the northbound traffic on W. 73rd Street beginning on the same date.

 

• Northbound W. 73rd Street traffic will be detoured west on Detroit Avenue to Lake Avenue, then north on W. 76th Street to Battery Park Boulevard, east on Battery Park Boulevard to W. 74th Street, north on W. 74th Street to Father Frascati Drive, east on Fr. Frascati Drive to W. 73rd Street.

 

• Shoreway traffic that uses W. 73rd Street will be detoured west on Detroit Avenue to Lake Avenue, west on Lake Avenue to Clifton Boulevard, then north on Clifton Boulevard to the Shoreway.

 

This detour is expected to be in place through mid-December 2017.

 

The W. 73rd Street project extends along a 0.26 mile section of W. 73rd Street from Detroit Avenue to Father Frascati Drive. The improvements include pavement, curbs, and sidewalks, stamped concrete crosswalks, installation of Americans with Disabilities Act compliant ramps, electrical and communication ductbanks, and new pavement markings. The construction cost is $1.76 million and is scheduled for completion in June 2018.

 

Should there be any questions, please contact the City of Cleveland Chief Inspector, Traci Hartnett-Mercado at 216-244-5636.

 

ROAD CONSTRUCTION INVARIABLY PRESENTS HAZARDS TO THE PUBLIC. WE URGE ALL TRAVELERS TO USE CAUTION IN THE CONSTRUCTION ZONES. YOUR SAFETY AND THE SAFETY OF OUR WORKERS ARE OUR GREATEST CONCERN

 

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND COOPERATION DURING THIS IMPORTANT PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT PROJECT

 

https://www.facebook.com/gordon.detroit?fref=nf

The Aspen Place project should be helpful in giving RTA and the CDCs institutional knowledge in developing TOD on RTA properties....

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2017/crr07-24-2017.pdf

 

Board of Zoning Appeals

JULY 24, 2017

9:30

Calendar No. 17-189: 6016 Lorain Ave. Ward 15

Matt Zone

13 Notices

GCRTA, owner, and Detroit Shoreway Community Development, prospective purchaser, propose to

erect a three story 40 residential unit building with retail space on the first floor in a C2 Local Retail

Business District and an Urban Form Overlay District. The applicant appeals for relief from the strict

application of the following sections of the Cleveland Codified Ordinances:

1. Section 348.04(d)(1)(B) which states that the maximum setback on secondary street frontage

(West 61st St) is limited to a 6 foot maximum where 30.5 feet are proposed.

2. Section 348.04(d)(2)(A) which states that the Frontage Buildout of 80% of the principal street

frontage is required and approximately 50% frontage buildout proposed.

3. Section 348.04(d)(2)(B) which states that Secondary street frontage buildout required is

100% where approximately 75% frontage buildout proposed.

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4. Section 348.04(d)(2)(F) which states that the first floor residential floor is required to be min

18” above grade.

5. Section 348.04(d)(4)(A) which states that 65% of standard required parking, or 28 spaces are

required and 20 parking spaces are proposed.

6. Section 348.04(d)(5)(A) which states that Secondary street frontage requires 3 foot minimum

landscape frontage strip and no strip is proposed.

7. Section 348.18(d) which states that the maximum width of the driveway in a retail district is

30 feet and a 210 foot driveway is proposed. (Filed June 21, 2017)

 

Those parcels were broken off from the larger breakwater development to satisfy some neighborhood concerns. Townhomes and single family are proposed. You can see renderings in zillow.

 

So that would be this:

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/pmf,pf_pt/41.488724,-81.730064_ll/globalrelevanceex_sort/41.490429,-81.727926,41.487973,-81.732539_rect/17_zm/

 

And this?

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/pmf,pf_pt/41.489201,-81.730232_ll/globalrelevanceex_sort/41.490429,-81.727925,41.487974,-81.732539_rect/17_zm/

 

As well as these site graphics....

 

 

Not to be confused with the Breakwater Bluffs townhouses (above) that will be on the north side of Breakwater Avenue at West 58th, this new development will be north of Herman Avenue at West 58th. While West 73rd is the axis of much development now, West 58th may soon be the next north-south development axis. Hint: say goodbye to the Parkview Nite Club as you know it. And the Zone Car Lounge. And Tina's Nite Club. And HKM Direct Market Communications. If you thought The Edison was big, that was just the toe in the water. Anyway, here's the Cyan Park Townhomes...

 

NW2017-021 – Cyan Park Townhomes New Construction: Seeking Schematic Design Approval

Project Address: 1318 West 58th Street

Project Representatives: Aaron Taylor, Vision

Bill Neburka, Works Architecture

Carrie Strickland, Works Architecture

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is that the same group that designed Tremont Black?  looks identical except for color.  I drive by that corner all the time, I can imagine how they get that many townhouses in there??

Say goodbye to Parkview?

Say goodbye to Parkview?

 

Sort of -- the existing Parkview in its old environs.

So, how long till you can drop more than hints, KJP? :wink:

Unfortunately, I want the developer to consider some TOD ideas not only for this site but also for the NW corner of West 117th/Madison. But I'm concerned the developer will tell me f--- off if I reveal who they are and what they want to do. As far as I know, the developer doesn't yet have purchase agreements with all of the properties involved so I'm afraid it's got to remain as hints for the time being.

Say goodbye to Parkview?

 

Sort of -- the existing Parkview in its old environs.

 

This sucks. Why kill the places with character? There's so much open space that I don't understand the need to ruin the good that is already there. But then again, the new hood is not for me. It's for those d-bag looking people like this.

Ugh, losing Parkview would be a huge bummer.  It's places like Parkview that make the neighborhoods worth living in in the first place.  If it's replaced or "moved" into a bland modern building, you might as well just open a Bar Louie.

Wait why does everyone think Parkview is going away? Parkview is not located on that block that's being developed.

ethlaw[/member] - You're right, this townhouse proposal is not located where the Parkview is, but I think that KJP[/member] was hinting that there might be a future development proposed for where the Parkview is currently located.

ethlaw[/member] - You're right, this townhouse proposal is not located where the Parkview is, but I think that KJP[/member] was hinting that there might be a future development proposed for where the Parkview is currently located.

 

That's correct. Not just Parkview. The entire block that includes HKM Direct Marketing.

Would HKM be moving somewhere else in the city?

Meanwhile the CMSD is going to build a school right up the street on even more valuable property....a school that no one living in these new developments will send their children to....

^^ UGH...just UGH.  I still can't believe that CMSD is doing this.  Nothing sparks development quite like a High School.  All the vacant land in this city to build a school on......

That's ok, there are still a lot of other families with children in these neighborhoods.  They belong there, too.

Investing in schools is the only way you'll induce more people to sending their kids to those schools. That lot is easily accessible which is important since so many CMSD students rely on public transit to get to and from school.

 

I would say that parcel hosting modern, quality education facilities will probably have a net community impact far greater than 70 tax abated Luxury Urban Townhouses.

^to that point, I coach CYO basketball for 8th grade boys. In my 6 years coaching, we usually play either Metro Catholic or Urban Community School at least once. To be blunt, as I'm not quite sure how else to word this... there are significantly more white kids on both teams now than there were when I first began coaching.

 

I think it might be reasonable to assume that some people are beginning to choose DS or OC as a destination to raise their kids and that these people would otherwise have been in the suburbs.

That's ok, there are still a lot of other families with children in these neighborhoods.  They belong there, too.

 

I agree with you--they just don't need to be right on Detroit Ave with a view of the lake and downtown.  If CSMD sold the property, or perhaps thought outside the box to do a multi-use facility via an outside developer, they would bring in more money for the students of the district. 

That's ok, there are still a lot of other families with children in these neighborhoods.  They belong there, too.

 

I agree with you--they just don't need to be right on Detroit Ave with a view of the lake and downtown.  If CSMD sold the property, or perhaps thought outside the box to do a multi-use facility via an outside developer, they would bring in more money for the students of the district.

 

That's a great point. Outside investment gives the best opportunity for local kids to thrive.

 

I was speaking with a friend from college who teaches in CMSD. He told me his biggest challenge is keeping his gifted students safe on the way to and from school. Specifically, he has a student who gained admission to Vanderbilt, and on acceptance day he wore a Vanderbilt sweat shirt to school. He was knocked unconscious on his way home by drop-outs who thought his apparel was a boast that he was better than them.

That's a great point. Outside investment gives the best opportunity for local kids to thrive.

 

I was speaking with a friend from college who teaches in CMSD. He told me his biggest challenge is keeping his gifted students safe on the way to and from school. Specifically, he has a student who gained admission to Vanderbilt, and on acceptance day he wore a Vanderbilt sweat shirt to school. He was knocked unconscious on his way home by drop-outs who thought his apparel was a boast that he was better than them.

 

Boy, they sure showed him!  :x

That's a great point. Outside investment gives the best opportunity for local kids to thrive.

 

I was speaking with a friend from college who teaches in CMSD. He told me his biggest challenge is keeping his gifted students safe on the way to and from school. Specifically, he has a student who gained admission to Vanderbilt, and on acceptance day he wore a Vanderbilt sweat shirt to school. He was knocked unconscious on his way home by drop-outs who thought his apparel was a boast that he was better than them.

 

Boy, they sure showed him!  :x

 

Right?

 

One of my secret career ambitions as I get older is to institute and East Coast style preparatory academy in Cleveland, dormitories and all. It's impossible for even the best seed on the planet to grow on asphalt. Ideally, I'd love to have one on the West Side, in a neighborhood like DS, and one on the East Side. But, that's a topic for another thread and I digress.

Any know what this would be?

 

Board of Zoning Appeals

AUGUST 7, 2017

 

9:30

Calendar No. 17-209: 5900 Detroit Ave. Ward 15

Matt Zone

21 Notices

K2 Holdings, owner, proposes to change use from store and dwelling to stores and assembly hall with

entertainment in a C2 Local Retail Business District and a Pedestrian Retail Overlay District (PRO).

The owner appeals for relief from the strict application of the following sections of the Cleveland

Codified

1. Section 343.01 which states that assembly and entertainment are not permitted in a Local

Retail Business District.

2. Section 343.11(B)(2)(L) which states that assembly and entertainment are first permitted in

General Retail Business subject to the regulations of section 347.12 provided that the place or

building in which the use is located is sufficiently sound-insulated to confine the noise to the

premises.

3. Section 349.04(e) which states that 11 parking spaces are required and 3 spaces are

proposed.

4. Section 347.12(a)(1) which states that no such use shall be established within 500 feet of a

residential district, day care, kindergarten, elementary or secondary school, public library,

church, playground, public or nonprofit recreation or community center. (Filed July 11, 2017)

^Per Google street view from last Sept, this address housed/houses a strip shopping center containing a Convenient Food Mart and a defunct laundromat.  The owner appears to be proposing a zoning change to establish a bar, club or restaurant -- or a combo of all 3 -- at that location, and reducing parking spaces from a required 11 down to 3.  I'm guessing this would be new construction that would come to the sidewalk as opposed to the set-back CFM strip.  This certainly sounds like it would be an upgrade of the unsightly strip that's currently there.  There's also an small, old 2-story mixed use building at the corner of W. 59th & Detroit (which appears in good condition) that would likely be demolished, as well, for this new project.

I thought this address was the place on the corner where Guide to Kulchur was located, not the strip mall.

^ Guide to Kulcher moved to 54th and Lorain. 

Looks like the replacement the McDonald's at 7015 Detroit Ave. with a new one will be on the old structure's foundation...

 

Case 17-042

Gordon Square Historic District

McDonald's Restaurant 7015 Detroit Avenue

Renovation

Ward 15

Zone

Jim Ptacek (Architect) Larsen Architects

Ken McCoy (Owner-Operator)

 

 

 

 

^Meh.

Detroit Shoreway affordable housing project by RTA rapid station to get underway in August

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio - Construction of Aspen Place, an affordable apartment building and transit-oriented development on Lorain Avenue, will begin this fall after five years of planning.

 

Groundbreaking on the 40-unit building at West 61st Street is scheduled in August with construction beginning the next month, said Anya Kulscar, director of real estate for the Detroit Shoreway Community Development Organization. The building will be complete in the fall of 2018.

 

"This is Detroit Shoreway's first real investment on Lorain Avenue," she said. "We are really excited. We have worked with RTA the last five years to get the project off the ground."

 

 

http://www.cleveland.com/cuyahoga-county/index.ssf/2017/07/detroit-shoreway_affordable_housing_project_by_rta_station_to_get_underway_in_august.html#comments

^Meh.

 

They're reinvesting in a city neighborhood. Better than them closing the location and it becoming a vacant lot. Can't have a gastropub on every corner. Not a huge fan of McD's either.

^ Guide to Kulcher moved to 54th and Lorain.

Yeah, but I think the address in question is its former location and not the strip mall.

 

They're reinvesting in a city neighborhood. Better than them closing the location and it becoming a vacant lot. Can't have a gastropub on every corner. Not a huge fan of McD's either.

 

What do a vacant lot and this McDonald's have in common? The lack of a shake machine. (They didn't even say it was broken, they just said "we don't have a shake machine").

 

I wish the renovation would make the building interact with the street better. The BK at Lake is still worse and I'd love to see that thing just come down.

^ Guide to Kulcher moved to 54th and Lorain.

Yeah, but I think the address in question is its former location and not the strip mall.

 

They're reinvesting in a city neighborhood. Better than them closing the location and it becoming a vacant lot. Can't have a gastropub on every corner. Not a huge fan of McD's either.

 

What do a vacant lot and this McDonald's have in common? The lack of a shake machine. (They didn't even say it was broken, they just said "we don't have a shake machine").

 

I wish the renovation would make the building interact with the street better. The BK at Lake is still worse and I'd love to see that thing just come down.

 

It will probably get a shake machine now. Anyway, I agree about the street interaction.

 

Just think if this were some Starbucks drive thru rehab nobody on here would make a comment. Cause they mask their shakes by calling them Italian names.  :laugh:

In related news, this popped up on my LinkedIn account yesterday.

https://sjobs.brassring.com/TGnewUI/Search/Home/Home?partnerid=25516&siteid=5221#jobDetails=2905316

McDonald's is looking for a Construction Manager in the Cleveland region. Maybe there is a bigger renovation campaign than just this location.

I don't mind McDonald's and other fast food places in neighborhoods.  In fact, I think they are needed.  I like how the McDonald'sand Dunkin Donuts in Lakewood interact with the street.  For me it is about the form

I don't mind McDonald's and other fast food places in neighborhoods.  In fact, I think they are needed.  I like how the McDonald'sand Dunkin Donuts in Lakewood interact with the street.  For me it is about the form

 

It's also about the municipality pushing for pedestrian-friendly designs. Lakewood planning officials told McDonald's, Dunkin Donuts, Walgreen's, Sherwin Williams, etc. to all build up to the sidewalk. So they did. Unfortunately, they didn't do the same thing with Aldi's, Fifth-Third Bank or Burger King that are basically across the street from the West 117th RTA station.

 

So even Lakewood isn't a gold standard when it comes to encouraging safe and attractive pedestrian environments.

^Meh.

 

They're reinvesting in a city neighborhood. Better than them closing the location and it becoming a vacant lot. Can't have a gastropub on every corner. Not a huge fan of McD's either.

 

I guess it does look better than the old one.  It's just a few blocks from excellent, ped friendly Gordon Square, though.

Detroit Shoreway affordable housing project by RTA rapid station to get underway in August

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio - Construction of Aspen Place, an affordable apartment building and transit-oriented development on Lorain Avenue, will begin this fall after five years of planning.

 

Groundbreaking on the 40-unit building at West 61st Street is scheduled in August with construction beginning the next month, said Anya Kulscar, director of real estate for the Detroit Shoreway Community Development Organization. The building will be complete in the fall of 2018.

 

"This is Detroit Shoreway's first real investment on Lorain Avenue," she said. "We are really excited. We have worked with RTA the last five years to get the project off the ground."

 

 

http://www.cleveland.com/cuyahoga-county/index.ssf/2017/07/detroit-shoreway_affordable_housing_project_by_rta_station_to_get_underway_in_august.html#comments

 

This is certainly a step forward and will cause yet another empty lot next to a Rapid station disappear into worthy multi-unit housing... It's amazing how long it took -- the better part of a decade -- just to put together a financing package for this somewhat modest development (remember all the big plans for apt towers, expanded Eco-Village townhomes, grocery store and other retail at this site when RTA rebuilt the W. 65th Rapid station? -- none of this materialized)... However, this project symbolizes the region's sudden interest and burst of energy in TOD which is popping up in a number of spots along the Rapid line...

 

But also it's great to see new development such as this rise in this still somewhat shabby south end of Detroit-Shoreway.  I know some may roll their eyes at the affordable housing aspect of this project, but I sure don't. 

Any know what this would be?

 

Board of Zoning Appeals

AUGUST 7, 2017

 

9:30

Calendar No. 17-209: 5900 Detroit Ave. Ward 15

Matt Zone

21 Notices

K2 Holdings, owner, proposes to change use from store and dwelling to stores and assembly hall with

entertainment in a C2 Local Retail Business District and a Pedestrian Retail Overlay District (PRO).

The owner appeals for relief from the strict application of the following sections of the Cleveland

Codified

1. Section 343.01 which states that assembly and entertainment are not permitted in a Local

Retail Business District.

2. Section 343.11(B)(2)(L) which states that assembly and entertainment are first permitted in

General Retail Business subject to the regulations of section 347.12 provided that the place or

building in which the use is located is sufficiently sound-insulated to confine the noise to the

premises.

3. Section 349.04(e) which states that 11 parking spaces are required and 3 spaces are

proposed.

4. Section 347.12(a)(1) which states that no such use shall be established within 500 feet of a

residential district, day care, kindergarten, elementary or secondary school, public library,

church, playground, public or nonprofit recreation or community center. (Filed July 11, 2017)

 

It's the old Guide to Kulchar building.  They are turning it into either a coworking space or an incubator...I can't remember which.  They had it open a little during Dyngus Day.  They were gutting the place.

I wish the renovation would make the building interact with the street better. The BK at Lake is still worse and I'd love to see that thing just come down.

 

Agree 100% with both of these statements. 

 

Detroit Shoreway is booming and lots of people aren't using cars.  Why not bring the building closer to the street and have a covered front seating area with a walk-up window?

 

That BK site could become a great corner site for a mixed-use retail/apt building.  But I think we're a few years off.

 

 

 

 

 

That BK lot would make a great space for a

Speaking of that McDonald's, I was thinking about how bad that stretch of Detroit is, from the McDonald's to the Family Dollar to the childcare center. So, I got bored and made a thing (mostly just with MS Paint) that would improve the street presence, keep the Family Dollar & McDonald's (including the drive-thru), as well as add more retail (with at least a couple stories of residential on top of course). The addition of traffic lights at W. 73rd would also improve traffic patterns there. According to the County, the total certified values for all of these parcels is $952,500 and they're owned by just two entities (one being McDonald's Corp).

The problem is that both sides of the street are bad there.

It's funny because if that super modern McDonald's in Ohio would've opened up, this one was set to close and that land was set to be developed for apartments similar to what's going on in hingetown, but the OC threw a tantrum over a McDonald's

^and would rather have an empty Hollywood video

Agenda for August 10, 2017

The Landmarks Commission Meeting starts at 9:00am in Room 514 City Hall

 

Case 17-046

Gordon Square Historic District

Detroit Avenue Various Locations

Mural Plan

 

Ward 15

Zone

Erin Guido

LAND Studio

 

The murals and their proposed placements are shown here:

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2017/08102017/index.php

 

Locations:

 

 

RTA board today OK'd a real estate transaction to enable this Transit Oriented Development...

 

2017-71 – Authorizing the Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority to (1) enter into a purchase and sale agreement in the amount of one hundred twenty thousand dollars ($120,000.00) with Aspen Place Apartments, L.P., an Ohio Limited Partnership, for a portion of the West 65th Street Eco Village Rapid Transit Station property, known as PPN 002-27-091 and located at 6016 Lorain Avenue, Cleveland Ohio 44102; and (2) enter into a lease of ten (10) parking spaces along west 61st street at twelve hundred dollars ($1,200.00) per year for a term of three years with two options of three years each