August 27, 20204 yr 1 minute ago, bumsquare said: I don’t understand why the existing apartments/storefronts need to be torn down for this. Yes I know it’s not my money, etc. but just saying the apartment building is “not worthy of preservation” is baffling to me. I do agree. I wish they would’ve built around it, and went vertical in their current spot
August 27, 20204 yr 8 minutes ago, bumsquare said: I don’t understand why the existing apartments/storefronts need to be torn down for this. Yes I know it’s not my money, etc. but just saying the apartment building is “not worthy of preservation” is baffling to me. Yeah, it turns this one bittersweet, instead of being an unalloyed victory for the neighborhood.
August 27, 20204 yr 13 minutes ago, bumsquare said: I don’t understand why the existing apartments/storefronts need to be torn down for this. Yes I know it’s not my money, etc. but just saying the apartment building is “not worthy of preservation” is baffling to me. The National Trust for Historic Preservation rejected it for inclusion in the trust because it was too heavily modified from its original design. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 27, 20204 yr 8 minutes ago, KJP said: The National Trust for Historic Preservation rejected it for inclusion in the trust because it was too heavily modified from its original design. So instead it is being torn down? That is some Trust for Historic Preservation!
August 29, 20204 yr No subscription required! SATURDAY, AUGUST 29, 2020 Seeds & Sprouts X - Early intel on real estate projects New Walz Library, apartments offer neighborhood transformation Cleveland Landmarks Commission gave mixed reviews in its first look this week at plans for a new Walz Branch of the Cleveland Public Library (CPL) topped by affordable senior apartments. The development is proposed to be built on the site of the existing library, 7910 Detroit Ave., as well as where the neighboring Detroit Chateau apartment building, 7918 Detroit Ave., now stands. Also the commission approved demolition of the 100-year-old Detroit Chateau, owned by the Detroit-Shoreway Community Development Organization (DSCDO), to help clear the way for the project. Demolition approval rested with the Landmarks Commission because the building is located in the Detroit-Shoreway Historic District. Detroit Chateau is due to be razed in December. MORE: https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/08/seeds-sprouts-x-early-intel-on-real.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 29, 20204 yr 3 hours ago, KJP said: No subscription required! SATURDAY, AUGUST 29, 2020 Seeds & Sprouts X - Early intel on real estate projects New Walz Library, apartments offer neighborhood transformation ... But several commission members pushed back against conceptual designs for the library topped by apartments. Much of the disdain was directed at the inclusion of a trapezoidal roof overhanging the glassy facade facing south at Detroit. Some said it was too thick, too tall, too large and blocks the apartment building residents' views of the street. There was no action taken by the commission on the conceptual designs. ... MORE: https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/08/seeds-sprouts-x-early-intel-on-real.html Overall I really like that design; however, the comment that the roof overhang would block residents’ view of the street is a valid criticism. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
August 30, 20204 yr 21 hours ago, KJP said: No subscription required! SATURDAY, AUGUST 29, 2020 Seeds & Sprouts X - Early intel on real estate projects New Walz Library, apartments offer neighborhood transformation Cleveland Landmarks Commission gave mixed reviews in its first look this week at plans for a new Walz Branch of the Cleveland Public Library (CPL) topped by affordable senior apartments. The development is proposed to be built on the site of the existing library, 7910 Detroit Ave., as well as where the neighboring Detroit Chateau apartment building, 7918 Detroit Ave., now stands. Also the commission approved demolition of the 100-year-old Detroit Chateau, owned by the Detroit-Shoreway Community Development Organization (DSCDO), to help clear the way for the project. Demolition approval rested with the Landmarks Commission because the building is located in the Detroit-Shoreway Historic District. Detroit Chateau is due to be razed in December. MORE: https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/08/seeds-sprouts-x-early-intel-on-real.html Would be great if they could acquire the terrible strip plaza next door, tear it down, and turn it into outdoor reading garden of sorts.
August 31, 20204 yr 21 hours ago, marty15 said: Would be great if they could acquire the terrible strip plaza next door, tear it down, and turn it into outdoor reading garden of sorts. I used to live across the street and while the American Food Mart isn't particularly charming, it still serves a purpose and therefore I think it has a base-level value. Same with Abe's. I don't like advocating for top-down removal of things when they have some functional value for people in the immediate area, especially in places like the West 80s where people's choices are already limited. If some additional commercial space on Detroit could first be reactivated to house the businesses, that would be a win-win.
September 3, 20204 yr On 8/31/2020 at 11:03 AM, jws said: I used to live across the street and while the American Food Mart isn't particularly charming, it still serves a purpose and therefore I think it has a base-level value. Same with Abe's. I don't like advocating for top-down removal of things when they have some functional value for people in the immediate area, especially in places like the West 80s where people's choices are already limited. If some additional commercial space on Detroit could first be reactivated to house the businesses, that would be a win-win. The food mart recently lost its license to sell alcohol. Not sure if it will survive that.
September 19, 20204 yr 3 hours ago, Larry1962 said: The saving grace with the HKM site is that it's a great location next to the EDISON apartment complex with great views of the lake and a great up and coming neighborhood! With all that going for it, then IF Carnegie can't develop the site then another developer WILL! And it will require a short delay but MAYBE IF that happens a much bigger and better financed developer will take over BOTH that site AND the WESTINGHOUSE COMPLEX next door. And then we can really have a great mix use development of new and renovated buildings and plus provide a parking garage for the Edison too. There were at least two developers who were interested in acquiring and developing the Westinghouse site only if the Transformational Mixed-Use Development (TMUD) tax credit was passed by the Ohio General Assembly. So if a developer would pursue both the Westinghouse and HKM properties, I would think that the same need for tapping a significant public incentive would still apply. Perhaps more so. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 23, 20204 yr Just barely inside Detroit-Shoreway (need more wins like this, not losses like Voss, Vibrator, etc especially with all of the vacant land in the city but isn't turnkey ready)...... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 23, 20204 yr 7312 Herman is being rehabbed. It's currently a double. Does anybody know if it will be converted to singe-family? It's good sized and on an attractive corner lot (NE corner of Herman and W74th). Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
October 15, 20204 yr On 4/23/2020 at 4:38 PM, Morningtheft2 said: My favorite building (NE corner of 58th and Herman) in the neighborhood is finally being renovated. They totally removed the front wall today, which was really bowing. Does anyone know the plans for it? I never saw anything on City planning. I assume it will be historically restored? I always thought it would be an awesome space for a cafe, a Fox in the Snow type place. After sitting idle since May, there was finally some work done at w58th and Herman. They had a backhoe clean out the lot directly east of the building and then dig out and fill in the lot. Anyone know what the plans are?
October 15, 20204 yr Great news in the neighborhood! 73rd & Detroit Edited October 15, 20204 yr by marty15
October 15, 20204 yr They have been working on that property for a long time. This doesn't quite make up for Banter closing next door (I'm not sure anything will), but it's a start. I've ordered their coffee off their website and it's pretty good, which means it'll be the best coffee available for a pretty wide radius in this location.
October 16, 20204 yr Re: Cent's Pizza, it's mentioned in this document which states a Summer 2020 opening, whereas the Scene article had stated Summer 2019. https://makeitincleveland.org/assets/downloads/2020-annual-report.pdf I did see this, however: https://www.constructionjournal.com/projects/details/0f16387dfddc43829111994439362d19.html Project Status: Abandoned Reported: 07/22/2020 03:30 PM I was trying to dig up info for Cent's Pizza and found some certificates of disclosure that a title company filed inconsistently for two addresses... Record COD20-06157 Date: 10/13/2020 Work Location 5600 LORAIN AVE CLEVELAND OH 44102 Parcel Number: 002-31-006 Owner: C2C PROPERTIES LLC 4850 VALLEY WOODS DRIVE INDEPENDENCE OH 44131 Record COD20-06159: Date: 10/13/2020 Work Location 5516 LORAIN AVE CLEVELAND OH 44102 Parcel Number: 002-31-137 Owner: C2C PROPERTIES LLC 1213 PROSPECT AVE E, 200 CLEVELAND OH 44115 Buyer information NONE NONERAYMEN LLC 4850 VALLEY WOODS DRIVE INDEPENDENCE, OH, 44131 United States The address in Independence is residential property owned by a Chef...Dion Tsevdos, owner of Chef 2 Chef Foods, a division of Catanese Classic Seafood. Also mentioned here: http://www.201cheeses.com/about-us I don't see Raymen LLC registered on the SOS Business Search website yet. cc: @tykaps@KJP Edit: He already controls both parcels... 002-31-006 is currently owned by Tsevdos's LLC, "C2C PROPERTIES, LLC" since 12/19/2003... 002-31-137 is currently owned under his name "Dion Tsevdos" since 8/15/2017... The adjacent parcels: Lorain ave Frontage (Google) Isometric view: Edited October 16, 20204 yr by infrafreak parcel ownership
October 19, 20204 yr On 10/15/2020 at 5:02 PM, ML11 said: They have been working on that property for a long time. This doesn't quite make up for Banter closing next door (I'm not sure anything will), but it's a start. I've ordered their coffee off their website and it's pretty good, which means it'll be the best coffee available for a pretty wide radius in this location. Banter has expressed interest in coming back but they would want a better physical space (their space was just not conducive to social distancing at all).
October 19, 20204 yr 13 minutes ago, Cavalier Attitude said: Banter has expressed interest in coming back but they would want a better physical space (their space was just not conducive to social distancing at all). Yeah, that makes sense... it's just going to be hard to beat that location for me. I'll float the "Armstrong Laundry" building on 76th and Lake in case someone from Banter is reading 🙂
October 25, 20204 yr Anyone have any other info on this project? https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/new-home-construction-planned-in-detroit-shoreway-clifton-boulevard-lakewood CLEVELAND — Tillman Avenue Townhomes Plans for four townhomes on Tillman Avenue between West 49th and 54th Streets in Gordon Square were received well by the Cleveland Landmarks Commission during a conceptual presentation Thursday. The townhomes are designed to try to fit in with the residential homes across the street and up and down the block. The land is currently vacant but is next to a used car lot. Cleveland City Council member Matt Zone told the Commission that there have been townhome projects proposed in the past for the site but had tried to fit in many more homes. Horton Harper Architects
November 4, 20204 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 4, 20204 yr I know those are all around the eastside and east suburbs, along with the Little Free Libraries. Such a great idea, and glad to see them spreading.
November 13, 20204 yr Battery Park Blvd extension to West 70th starting any day now. Edited January 15, 20214 yr by marty15
December 22, 20204 yr Noticed some work being done at 1278 West 58h Street (across the street from the Parkview). With assistance from @KJP, it was determined the building was being converted to a storage facility. I found the following plans on the City's permitting site: https://ca.permitcleveland.org/ Not my definition of highest and best use of the property, but I can completely understand the need for storage facilities with all of these apartments in the area. Edited December 22, 20204 yr by musky
December 23, 20204 yr I'll see your self-storage facility and raise you a Greek tavern..... TUESDAY, DECEMBER 22, 2020 Seeds & Sprouts XIV - Early intel on real estate projects Greek tavern to open on Lorain Avenue Plans were submitted to the City of Cleveland this week to renovate the ground floor of a 100-year-old mixed-use building at 5100 Lorain Ave. into a small restaurant. Tavros Capital LLC, which in turn is owned by James Matheos, submitted the plans to open Greek Village Grille. MORE: https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/12/seeds-sprouts-xiv-early-intel-on-real.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 24, 20204 yr I heard about this last night. No one seems to know why Burger King is boarded up and shut down. A number of developers have tried to purchase this property from its Florida owner but she was not interested in selling. Perhaps that is about to change? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 24, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, KJP said: I heard about this last night. No one seems to know why Burger King is boarded up and shut down. A number of developers have tried to purchase this property from its Florida owner but she was not interested in selling. Perhaps that is about to change? This is amazing news! The parcel on the south side of Detroit is for sale as well. If someone could lockup the gas station property, along with the Waverly Elementary School site about to be cleared......also the new Walz Library/apartment complex set to begin soon, that whole intersection could be an incredible development/neighborhood epicenter. You can also add the Lake Ave makeover starting next year to the positives happening in this corner of the city. Edited December 24, 20204 yr by marty15
December 24, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, marty15 said: This is amazing news! The parcel on the south side of Detroit is for sale as well. If someone could lockup the gas station property, along with the Waverly Elementary School site about to be cleared......also the new Walz Library/apartment complex set to begin soon, that whole intersection could be an incredible development/neighborhood epicenter. You can also add the Lake Ave makeover starting next year to the positives happening in this corner of the city. Sounds like a great opportunity for someone to come in and apply for some TMUD tax credits!
December 24, 20204 yr On 12/24/2020 at 3:05 PM, PoshSteve said: Sounds like a great opportunity for someone to come in and apply for some TMUD tax credits! Looks like the wheels may be turning already. Edited March 23, 20214 yr by marty15
December 25, 20204 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 25, 20204 yr 30 minutes ago, KJP said: I’ll s$&t if something like the rendering actually comes to fruition. It’s no St. John Circle, but this was my second idea. The Code Studio guys were awesome. I pointed them to the Euclid/Mayfield/Ford Rd. intersection as a local example. They took it from there. Edited December 25, 20204 yr by marty15
January 13, 20214 yr WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 13, 2021 Seeds & Sprouts XV - City Club tower groundbreaking & more West Side residential projects to add units Several small new residential expansions are planned in the Detroit-Shoreway and Ohio City neighborhoods. Together, one renovation and two new-construction projects will add several dozen housing units. The most visible of these is a proposal to add 16,800 square feet to The Shoreway Apartments, 1200 W. 76th St., overlooking Edgewater Boulevard, formerly the West Shoreway, and Edgewater Park. Based on the proposed square footage, the expansion could result in the addition of about 16-17 units to the 45-unit apartment building. MORE: https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2021/01/seeds-sprouts-xv-city-club-tower.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 15, 20214 yr ^w47th and Bridge Ave (southside) This development is headed to court because the BLOCK club has blocked it from happening. Edited January 15, 20214 yr by Clefan98
January 15, 20214 yr Yup, SW corner. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 15, 20214 yr w47th Last two parcels to go before Bridge Ave from w25 - w65th is fully built out. w48th Edited January 15, 20214 yr by Clefan98
January 15, 20214 yr I should note the mural building has a deal in place with a local developer (hasn't transferred yet). They're waiting to see how the situation unfolds on w47th before proceeding.
January 15, 20214 yr 13 minutes ago, Clefan98 said: ^w47th and Bridge Ave (southside) This development is headed to court because the BLOCK club has blocked it from happening. Just infuriating that they would rather have empty vacant lots than new people living in their community.
January 15, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, gg707 said: Just infuriating that they would rather have empty vacant lots than new people living in their community. The head of the w47th Block Club is an attorney. I live right down the street from there and voiced my opinion in support so they kicked me out of the club, naturally. What a bunch NIMBY a-holes.
January 15, 20214 yr The fact that they need their own block club for one street (as though their needs and interests are so fundamentally different from those of the nearly identical surrounding streets) says a lot about them.
January 15, 20214 yr ^ It makes it confusing as well. I was at a get together this past fall going over plans for Seamus building and I guess there was a big todo about the owners not coming to the block club first. Owners were like, Yes we did. I guess it was the other club in that area. How are people supposed to keep track of all these factions. @Clefan98 We should start our own. Something to the effect of 47thBlockClub_Offical. Pro density faction.
January 15, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, viscomi said: ^ It makes it confusing as well. I was at a get together this past fall going over plans for Seamus building and I guess there was a big todo about the owners not coming to the block club first. Owners were like, Yes we did. I guess it was the other club in that area. How are people supposed to keep track of all these factions. @Clefan98 We should start our own. Something to the effect of 47thBlockClub_Offical. Pro density faction. LOL I've considered it! I could easily get 10-12 neighbors to join the resistance @YABO713??
January 15, 20214 yr 17 minutes ago, Clefan98 said: LOL I've considered it! I could easily get 10-12 neighbors to join the resistance @YABO713?? Bought a home on W 48th and will be moving in soon, count me in.
January 15, 20214 yr 22 minutes ago, downtownjoe said: Bought a home on W 48th and will be moving in soon, count me in. Congrats Joe! Might I ask where you’re moving from?
January 15, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, marty15 said: Congrats Joe! Might I ask where you’re moving from? Thank you! I've lived downtown for the last 5+ years. I've been eyeing this area for a while now. With interest rates so low, it only made sense to pull the trigger even if some of these home prices are a bit high. I'll be saving $500+ per month (in theory). Teetered on rehabbing something ourselves or buying a flip and went with the flip. I'm going to miss downtown but I'll be there every weekday for work once COVID is over so not too worried. I'm really excited to live in the area– NIMBY's be damned.
January 15, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, downtownjoe said: Thank you! I've lived downtown for the last 5+ years. I've been eyeing this area for a while now. With interest rates so low, it only made sense to pull the trigger even if some of these home prices are a bit high. I'll be saving $500+ per month (in theory). Teetered on rehabbing something ourselves or buying a flip and went with the flip. I'm going to miss downtown but I'll be there every weekday for work once COVID is over so not too worried. I'm really excited to live in the area– NIMBY's be damned. we’ll be neighbors! I’m on 50th. Welcome!
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