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10 hours ago, Dblcut3 said:

I visited the Detroit Shoreway area this past summer and was blown away by how great of a neighborhood it is. These new townhomes/apartments really make the area look much nicer and they make the neighborhood look nice and modern when viewed from Edgewater Beach and the Shoreway. If I was moving to Cleveland, I'd probably pick the Gordon Square area - It would be great to live in a neighborhood that's within walking distance of a vibrant commercial district as well as Edgewater Park and the Lakefront Bikeway!

 

This neighborhood really does have it all and I couldn't imagine living anywhere else.

 

The best part about Gordon Square is it's only going to continue to grow and get more appealing to those who want the perfect mixture of city + lake living. 

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I noticed some sewers roughed-in by 7915 Madison. Any clever people know what this is all about? 

32 minutes ago, Nickel Plate RR said:

I noticed some sewers roughed-in by 7915 Madison. Any clever people know what this is all about? 

EDEN is building 5 townhouses.

 

https://www.clevelandohio.gov/node/165712

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Pear Avenue Townhomes:

 

As an owner of a Cleveland Bricks renovated home I have very mixed feelings. It's great that more houses are filling in the empty lots, but man does Bricks do D- level work. Hopefully their new builds have better contractors than whomever did the renovation stuff.

1 hour ago, dastler said:

As an owner of a Cleveland Bricks renovated home I have very mixed feelings. It's great that more houses are filling in the empty lots, but man does Bricks do D- level work. Hopefully their new builds have better contractors than whomever did the renovation stuff.

I’ve heard this from multiple people.

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I'm a little shocked at:

 

1) The rate of construction of the Waverly & Oak development. It's impressive, especially given the weather; and 

 

2) It looks like they're not going to utilize a crane for this project, which surprised me, given its scale. 

 

Can any people more informed about construction/engineering educate me on the advantages / disadvantages of using cranes for developments of this size? 

East sider here. I just drove past the Waverly & Oak site yesterday and was astonished at how quickly work is progressing. I didn’t even realize it had commenced yet! I really got a sense of the significance size of the footprint. It will have quite a street presence for sure. 

If anyone is able to snag a progress photo, that would be much appreciated! This is a really impactful project that is transformative for the neighborhood and I feel like it has flown under the radar for the most part (probably due to the speed of progress).

@clandman1123

Here ya go. Hate to complain about the bright sun making photos difficult, but the bright sun made photography difficult -- especially when doing a drive-by shooting...

 

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Ah you need to wait for the golden hour! :)

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Definitely. And the view from the north side is better too!

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

 

Demolition permit application submitted a couple days ago for the Walz Branch of the Cleveland Public Library, 7910 Detroit Ave. Senior apartments over a new library will replace it....

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I swear, if this breaks ground before Library Lofts...

20 hours ago, PoshSteve said:

 

 

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From the Detroit Shoreway Neighborhood News email 2/15/22


On Wednesday, Feb. 23, 6-7pm, join Property Advisors Group, Councilmember Spencer and Northwest Neighborhoods CDC for a virtual community engagement meeting regarding preliminary plans for the 8400 Lake Avenue project. Register and join Zoom meeting at bit.ly/8400lake.

Waverly & Oak (2-22-22)

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Battery Park Apartments

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Park Place Townhomes

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Infill on West 67th

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Infill on West 65th

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The Slate

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Infill on Herman east of 54th

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Senior housing, renovations approved for Cleveland Public Library's Walz Branch

 

The Walz Branch of the Cleveland Public Library, which has been in the historic Gordon Square district for several decades, received a final approval from the Cleveland Landmarks Commission on its project to renovate the library and build senior living above it.

 

The housing part of the project, called Karam Senior Living, will have 51 units.

 

Both the library renovation and housing project are expected to be completed by summer 2023.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cleveland/news/2022/02/25/walz-branch-preparing-for-renovations.html

 

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"You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers

Waverly & Oak bathtub being poured. Should start going vertical soon.

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Hello new here. I'm considering buying a home in the southwest portion of the neighborhood and stumbled upon the 2015/2016 master plan for this specific portion of the neighborhood. The plan was ambitious but unfortunately not much seems to have materialized. There's a pocket park on Dudley and I think that's about it.

 

Highlights:

- Central streetscape "Dudley Triangle" similar to Gordon Square

- Revitalize Lorain Ave with Antiques area as anchor

- Turn alleys into attractive green walkways

- Murals similar to Gordon Square area

- Additional pocket park on 83rd with pathway to the Library

 

Is there any intention to fulfill this plan and create a southern compliment to Gordon Square? Was the area deamed beyond rehabilitation? 

 

Hope it's appropriate to post this question here. Thanks!

Welcome! I think we're seeing the redevelopment of Lorain Avenue occur organically rather than through some some intensive strategic initiative. Development is pushing west along Lorain and in the surrounding neighborhoods there are numerous infill homes built/underway/planned. The infill homes are definitely the the result of a strategic initiative by the CDC but I'm not aware of concerted city/CDC efforts yet to promote Lorain. Westown CDC recently passed a masterplan to invest in the Lorain corridor further west/south of its crossing of I-90 (including an ill-advised parking deck). But it hasn't begun implementing it yet.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

9 hours ago, holacomoestas said:

Hello new here. I'm considering buying a home in the southwest portion of the neighborhood and stumbled upon the 2015/2016 master plan for this specific portion of the neighborhood. The plan was ambitious but unfortunately not much seems to have materialized. There's a pocket park on Dudley and I think that's about it.

 

Highlights:

- Central streetscape "Dudley Triangle" similar to Gordon Square

- Revitalize Lorain Ave with Antiques area as anchor

- Turn alleys into attractive green walkways

- Murals similar to Gordon Square area

- Additional pocket park on 83rd with pathway to the Library

 

Is there any intention to fulfill this plan and create a southern compliment to Gordon Square? Was the area deamed beyond rehabilitation? 

 

Hope it's appropriate to post this question here. Thanks!

 

Those sorts of plans get made all the time.  I hate to say it, but I wouldn't recommend getting too excited about them when they are released or conversely getting to despondent when they don't happen.  Like KJP said, the movement of redevelopment is flowing slowly down Lorain, and will get to this area.  The time for a plan like what you've shown for the W. 80's will be when that redevelopment energy starts to hit the W. 60's and W. 70's.  Then a good plan might entice someone to take a look at that "next step" a little further down the road.

On 2/25/2022 at 10:45 PM, ColDayMan said:

Senior housing, renovations approved for Cleveland Public Library's Walz Branch

 

The Walz Branch of the Cleveland Public Library, which has been in the historic Gordon Square district for several decades, received a final approval from the Cleveland Landmarks Commission on its project to renovate the library and build senior living above it.

 

The housing part of the project, called Karam Senior Living, will have 51 units.

 

Both the library renovation and housing project are expected to be completed by summer 2023.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cleveland/news/2022/02/25/walz-branch-preparing-for-renovations.html

 

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Walked by today. Abe’s Beauty and the beverage store next to the future library were both boarded up. I couldn’t be happier. The owners of the beverage store had been operating an underground nite club out of the beauty store for some time now. Finally that’s over with.

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^Unfortunately Abe from the beauty/wireless store is a great guy and funny as hell. Haven't talked him in a bout a year though hope he can stay in the neighborhood. 

2 hours ago, freethink said:

^Unfortunately Abe from the beauty/wireless store is a great guy and funny as hell. Haven't talked him in a bout a year though hope he can stay in the neighborhood. 

He might be a great guy, but his questionable establishments have been a nuisance to the neighborhood for years. 

On 3/6/2022 at 3:02 AM, holacomoestas said:

Hello new here. I'm considering buying a home in the southwest portion of the neighborhood and stumbled upon the 2015/2016 master plan for this specific portion of the neighborhood. The plan was ambitious but unfortunately not much seems to have materialized. There's a pocket park on Dudley and I think that's about it.

 

Highlights:

- Central streetscape "Dudley Triangle" similar to Gordon Square

- Revitalize Lorain Ave with Antiques area as anchor

- Turn alleys into attractive green walkways

- Murals similar to Gordon Square area

- Additional pocket park on 83rd with pathway to the Library

 

Is there any intention to fulfill this plan and create a southern compliment to Gordon Square? Was the area deamed beyond rehabilitation? 

 

Hope it's appropriate to post this question here. Thanks!

There is no funding behind implementing anything proposed in the plan. It's generally meant to guide future advocacy and planning efforts when funding and/or development interest does arise. I think a lot of the features of the plan are actually being realized in different, more subtle ways throughout the neighborhood. There are also plans that did happen, like the rebuild of Madison Park, now Miriam Ortiz-Rush Park. It should also be noted that DSCDO merged with Cudell Improvement, so the new CDC - Northwest Neighborhoods - will undertake its own strategic planning process. Even without a merger, this would be the time when an org would naturally want to revisit their old strategic plan and update it.

 

There's also stuff happening which wasn't explicitly in the plan, like the renovation and expansion of the Lorain Branch library and the 30 CHN infill houses.

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Noticed a for sale sign up at the Burger King property. And Happy’s Pizza next door appears permanently closed. Also, Happy must have an illegitimate little pizza shop out there somewhere.

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On 3/6/2022 at 4:47 PM, marty15 said:

He might be a great guy, but his questionable establishments have been a nuisance to the neighborhood for years. 

 

There you have it Marty15, seems you were right on the money.

 

“Cuyahoga County prosecutor shuts down businesses on claims of drug trafficking”

https://www.cleveland19.com/2022/03/09/cuyahoga-county-prosecutor-shuts-down-businesses-claims-drug-trafficking/

 

 

Someone please call the Rochester NY developer and tell them they now have a much larger parcel of land to work with.

1 hour ago, YO to the CLE said:

Someone please call the Rochester NY developer and tell them they now have a much larger parcel of land to work with.

Watterson-Lake elementary school site across the street  is available for redevelopment as well. It’s a large piece of property.

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2 hours ago, YO to the CLE said:

Someone please call the Rochester NY developer and tell them they now have a much larger parcel of land to work with.

 

They know.  🙂 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

On 10/21/2019 at 10:23 PM, marty15 said:

 

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Time to revive this?

The Waverly and Oak development is at ground level! They're really cruising

Did a drive-by shooting (wife drove, I shot) after dropping the kid off at school this AM

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Not sure if Waverly & Oak Phase 2 was discussed before. This is the address mentioned. Demolition and new commercial construction.

 

https://planning.clevelandohio.gov/landmark/agenda/2022/PDF/CLC-03-24-2022-AGENDA.pdf

 

3. Case 22-026: Gordon Square Historic District (Concept Plan 2/24/22)

Waverly & Oak Phase 2

5416 Detroit Avenue

New Construction Concept of a Pocket Park/Plaza and Petite Commercial Development

Ward 15: Spencer Project Representatives: Justin Strizzi, Developer, Bond Street Group; Gary Ogrocki, Dimit Architects

 

4. Case 22-027: Gordon Square Historic District (Concept Plan 2/24/22)

Waverly & Oak Phase 2 5416 Detroit Avenue

Demolition of a Commercial Building

Ward 15: Spencer Project Representatives: Justin Strizzi, Developer, Bond Street Group; Gary Ogrocki, Dimit Architects

 

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Actually, in the short term, nothing exciting is going to happen.  There will be demolition of the warehouse building and the construction of a "pocket park" fronting Detroit in order to provide additional surface parking for the building and the neighborhood.  I believe the debate is how deep the  park is to be.  The developer wants something like 20 feet and the planning commission staff wants something like 40 feet.  Eventually, but no firm plans, a retail building will go where the park is, probably one story.

I got excited for a moment, then immediately disappointed. There should be more push back to save this building than the Azteca building. This will forever be a surface lot for Phase 1.  Why not just use the warehouse for indoor parking for now? There is NO need for a “pocket park” backed up by a surface lot to stretch the block.

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I got excited for a moment, then immediately disappointed. There should be more push back to save this building than the Azteca building. This will forever be a surface lot for Phase 1.  Why not just use the warehouse for indoor parking for now? There is NO need for a “pocket park” backed up by a surface lot to stretch the block.

It’s cute that a “pocket park” is what’s being marketed for parking. The two uses don’t coexist


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A 20 foot deep pocket park?  Lol, that's barely more than a treelawn in many areas.

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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High-rise planned near Edgewater Park
By Ken Prendergast / April 9, 2022

 

A local developer is proposing to build the tallest building between Ohio City and Lakewood’s Gold Coast, within a few steps of Edgewater Park. Yet, at 10 stories tall, the proposed expansion of The Shoreway apartment complex, 1200 W. 76th St., won’t threaten to scrape the sky west of Cleveland’s Battery Park.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blog/2022/04/09/high-rise-planned-near-edgewater-park/

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I follow city development projects closely and I am now at the point that I often cannot keep all the projects straight in my mind when discussing them with people.

Just now, Htsguy said:

I follow city development projects closely and I am now at the point that I often cannot keep all the projects straight in my mind when discussing them with people.

 

There's more. I'm just getting to the big ones first. I haven't been able to write about all of them yet.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

1 hour ago, Htsguy said:

I follow city development projects closely and I am now at the point that I often cannot keep all the projects straight in my mind when discussing them with people.

I feel the same way. Remember back in the begining of this forum '05 or '06when we'd be excited to have one or two projects going? Now they're popping up every day!

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