April 9, 20223 yr 5 hours ago, Htsguy said: I follow city development projects closely and I am now at the point that I often cannot keep all the projects straight in my mind when discussing them with people. Would you happen to be a freelance writer? KJP may be hiring...
April 10, 20223 yr Nah, he's just getting old... 🧙♂️ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 11, 20223 yr Projects, projects, projects… By Ken Prendergast / April 11, 2022 If it seems like there’s been a sudden increase in real estate development projects in Cleveland lately, you’re not alone. And last week, the city’s Building Department received applications for zoning reviews and eventual building permits of three decent-sized projects — in one day. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2022/04/11/projects-projects-projects/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 11, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, w28th said: The link to the blog isn't working for some reason. 404 error We're fixing something on the site right now. Check back shortly. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 11, 20223 yr For sale sign popped up this morning on the plaza next to the future new Walz Library and apartment complex.
April 11, 20223 yr I liked the previous proposal for the W. 73 lot, especially the enclosed parking they were able to offer due to a slight elevation change on the property if I recall correctly. However, with Horton and Harper designing the new project it might even be superior given that firm's portfolio.
April 14, 20223 yr regarding sgw and the w73rd apt building proposal, i dk about that. i looked it up and its a small potatos guy who's business address is a mailbox place in the heart of orthodox midwood brooklyn. they have one five story/50apt building project in flatbush listed that was filed in 2017. i streetviewed and the site was just getting to be above ground as of last summer. so it is legit at least. anyway, low expectations for that project to happen anytime soon.
April 18, 20223 yr West Side Ecumenical Center, 5209 Detroit Ave, about to undergo some rehab including a bunch of new windows. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 18, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, KJP said: West Side Ecumenical Center, 5209 Detroit Ave, about to undergo some rehab including a bunch of new windows. Is that the big boxy addition that comes up to the sidewalk, I hope?
April 18, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, surfohio said: Is that the big boxy addition that comes up to the sidewalk, I hope? Sounds like they're replacing windows, not adding them. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 18, 20223 yr 10 minutes ago, surfohio said: Is that the big boxy addition that comes up to the sidewalk, I hope? That’s an auditorium.
April 20, 20223 yr I never really noticed those large glass windows on that side of Templin-Bradley. Probably some cool apartments.
April 26, 20223 yr Waverly and Oak going vertical in Gordon Square with the aid of a big crane! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 26, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, KJP said: Waverly and Oak going vertical in Gordon Square with the aid of a big crane! This stretch of Detroit needs a lot more of this.
May 4, 20223 yr As noted in the Cudell-Edgewater thread, this development is actually in Detroit-Shoreway by a few feet. Here's a couple from the set of latest renderings that will be reviewed tomorrow by Planning Commission. Before.... After.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 4, 20223 yr ^^ Boy, that's ugly. Geis has a real knack for capturing that dispiriting 1970's suburban office look.
May 4, 20223 yr I thought l read that Geis uses Inhouse architects. It made its reputation building industrial type structures in nondescript suburban office parks/warehouses. That's fine for what it is but its latest forays are with residential structures. Problem is they haven't adjusted their look. If they're going to continue to design and build residential buildings, especially city buildings they really need to step up the design process. Probably need a different team because the current architect's simply don't know that buildings housing people need to look different than buildings housing office workers or storing stuff.
May 4, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, gruver said: ^^ Boy, that's ugly. Geis has a real knack for capturing that dispiriting 1970's suburban office look. Yea - something about that design is just “off”.
May 4, 20223 yr The townhomes facing Lake really need a front porch or patio. We can stop building homes here like they’re fortresses. I’m fine with the overall look tho. The red brick will look much better in real life. It’ll dovetail nicely with the Battery Park brick structures. The street presence is just anti social. And why on earth are they placing the outdoor roof terrace on the south wing? That really makes no sense at all. Edited May 4, 20223 yr by marty15
May 4, 20223 yr In this case Geis is just the builder from what I understand, Sixmo is the architect, not the in-house Geis designers. And yes, this design is terrible, topped off by the fact that the brick is likely thin-brick if past Knex project are any indication. The renderings are utter trash, lazy.
May 5, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, gruver said: ^^ Boy, that's ugly. Geis has a real knack for capturing that dispiriting 1970's suburban office look. I always wanted to live in a building that looks like my pediatrician's office in Mentor circa 79.
May 5, 20223 yr One thing I’d do to improve the design is just reorient the apartment building so that the open end faces south. Créate a shared courtyard or open space between the apartment building and the townhomes. Open the view a bit for the townhouses looking north instead of being right up against the apartment building. You could then have more apartments facing east with higher floors having a great downtown view. The apartment building isn’t really so bad - I’d create a roof deck of some kind. The townhomes - geez, they need to go back and soften/modernize them aesthetically - they don’t look warm and welcoming at all. .
May 5, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, w28th said: In this case Geis is just the builder from what I understand, Sixmo is the architect, not the in-house Geis designers. And yes, this design is terrible, topped off by the fact that the brick is likely thin-brick if past Knex project are any indication. The renderings are utter trash, lazy. Geis is the architect and builder. Sixmo is the engineer.
May 5, 20223 yr Geis is design build on the apartments. Knez is doing Townhomes with Sixmo designing the townhomes. Pushback on original townhomes was high and they were told to reflect the overall project which is why you have the change in the townhomes. Surprisingly the rooftop deck on the southeast maintains strong views of the city and lake. Best views from this site are not northerly, but rather northeasterly as the tree lines at the metro parks block lakeviews until you're really high up.
May 5, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, babysfirstxmas said: Geis is design build on the apartments. Knez is doing Townhomes with Sixmo designing the townhomes. Pushback on original townhomes was high and they were told to reflect the overall project which is why you have the change in the townhomes. Surprisingly the rooftop deck on the southeast maintains strong views of the city and lake. Best views from this site are not northerly, but rather northeasterly as the tree lines at the metro parks block lakeviews until you're really high up. Do you know if they are using thin brick as surmised by @w28th
May 5, 20223 yr 10 minutes ago, Htsguy said: Do you know if they are using thin brick as surmised by @w28th No. Molded.
May 5, 20223 yr Serious question. Do you think any of the local development or architectural firms come on this site to see what the general consensus is for their developments? Depending on the plans there is usually a kind of agreement here on what works and what doesn't. And speaking for the forum, I think we are right way more than we are wrong. Then again, how many of us are complete amateurs? I know I am. So if any of them do come on here do THEY think we're mostly clueless when we criticize something? Speaking of design, I get that cost is a huge factor but it does seem that a lot of what is generated isn't all that cheaper than something that looks way better. Plus, if you're in the business, there is no shortage of material showing different developments using different price targets. And yes, design can be subjective but, come on, you can see what works and what doesn't. I've often said, you don't have to re-invent the wheel, just steal a little of what works. The concept, not the exact design. Most architecture is derivative anyway.
May 5, 20223 yr 16 hours ago, CleveFan said: One thing I’d do to improve the design is just reorient the apartment building so that the open end faces south. Créate a shared courtyard or open space between the apartment building and the townhomes. Open the view a bit for the townhouses looking north instead of being right up against the apartment building. You could then have more apartments facing east with higher floors having a great downtown view. The apartment building isn’t really so bad - I’d create a roof deck of some kind. The townhomes - geez, they need to go back and soften/modernize them aesthetically - they don’t look warm and welcoming at all. . Food for thought: a southerly facing U shape puts the easterly wing directly next to Lowe chemical. Many units would be looking directly at the side of that building if laid out in that fashion. This orientation pulls a lot of units away from the neighboring Lowe Chem. and provides some breathing room
May 6, 20223 yr 19 hours ago, babysfirstxmas said: Food for thought: a southerly facing U shape puts the easterly wing directly next to Lowe chemical. Many units would be looking directly at the side of that building if laid out in that fashion. This orientation pulls a lot of units away from the neighboring Lowe Chem. and provides some breathing room Especially since Lowe Chemical isn't going to be there much longer... 😉 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 9, 20223 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 15, 20223 yr My friends on W. 81st have been approached by Catholic Charities (St. Augustine Hospital) about purchasing their property. They own roughly 3-4 conjoined lots that back up to W. 80th. CC recently demo’d a house on 80th, and own the last remaining structures on the east side of the street. Wondering what they’re up to. Edited May 15, 20223 yr by marty15
May 16, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, marty15 said: My friends on W. 81st have been approached by Catholic Charities (St. Augustine Hospital) about purchasing their property. They own roughly 3-4 conjoined lots that back up to W. 80th. CC recently demo’d a house on 80th, and own the last remaining structures on the east side of the street. Wondering what they’re up to. Parking! No seriously, I don't know but I will check. Thanks. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 19, 20223 yr Treo, Edison for sale for different reasons By Ken Prendergast / May 18, 2022 Two near-West Side Cleveland multi-family properties hit the market this week but for two very different reasons. In the Lincoln Park section of Tremont, the still-under construction Treo was offered for sale today. Tomorrow, it will be The Edison’s turn to test the waters. The Edison at Gordon Square was built five years ago near Edgewater Park in the Detroit-Shoreway neighborhood. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2022/05/18/treo-edison-for-sale-for-different-reasons/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 19, 20223 yr I can’t remember a time when there were so many apartments under construction in the inner ring suburbs. And significantly sized, upscale buildings at that. Feelin really optimistic about the future of Cleveland!
May 19, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, CleveFan said: I can’t remember a time when there were so many apartments under construction in the inner ring suburbs. And significantly sized, upscale buildings at that. Feelin really optimistic about the future of Cleveland! These aren’t inner ring. This is Cleveland.
May 19, 20223 yr 28 minutes ago, marty15 said: These aren’t inner ring. This is Cleveland. Thanks @marty15-i thought that right after I posted - even better!
May 19, 20223 yr MyPlace making moves on a property on the Ohio City/Detroit Shoreway border: 5107 Lorain Ave. https://ca.permitcleveland.org/public/Cap/CapDetail.aspx?Module=BuildingHousing&TabName=BuildingHousing&capID1=22CAP&capID2=00000&capID3=00CTD&agencyCode=COC&IsToShowInspection= Lot next to it is city owned so could see larger scale development here. Edited May 19, 20223 yr by downtownjoe
May 27, 20223 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 28, 20223 yr Sizable infill house at 74th and Goodwalt. Infill houses in Battery Park mean built in a backyard.
May 31, 20223 yr 19 minutes ago, w28th said: Somewhat surprised there’s no tower crane on this Funny how some cities seem to have a tower crane for every little dink development while we get high-reaches for seven-story buildings. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
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